The WTF Starts Now

[Frank]

Mike wrote:

> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't
> have time to join religious cults.
>
Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's leading
cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't deny they’re
communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free software movement
and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time (a lot of communist use
linux). I don't know if being an atheist/communist is some kind of uber
qualifier for being a linux candidate, but the philosophies do seem to
mess together quite easily.
Frank

 

[xfile]

Alias,

You use race, religion, and women as examples and you expect mature people
will seriously take your words either in here or in real life?

And months ago, I told you that I tried to install Ubuntu twice with two
fresh burned DVD's but it wouldn't work and I even copied the error codes in
here and none of you guys ever knew how to solve it. If it was Windows, I'd
say it's a crap, but unfortunately, it's not a problem for it. Some people
have been using the same standards for everything, and that's something you
never learned.

Call me stupid or something even worse because I don't know how to install
Ubuntu and I won't care. But guess what, you can spend all you life doing
the negative campaign here and it will go nowhere and none but you are
suffering.

You have a good day.


"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:efl$ikIyHHA.4824@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> xfile wrote:
>> Well, say whatever you wish but you should know that you and your friends
>> are doing a "negative" campaign here. I don't remember when was the last
>> time that a negative campaign actually worked.
>>
>> But I offer you and your friends an opportunity. The following is a
>> comment By WALTER S. MOSSBERG, Wall Street Journal, April 26, 2007.
>>
>> Q: You often mention the Macintosh as an alternative to Windows, why
>> don't
>> you recommend the Linux operating system?
>>
>> A: I aim my columns at mainstream users doing typical tasks who have
>> little
>> or no technical knowledge, no help from experts, and no appetite for
>> becoming techies. These folks want the computer to do things for them.
>> They
>> don't want to have to do much, if any, configuring of, or maintaining of,
>> their computers. They have no patience for geeky procedures. For
>> instance,
>> when they buy a peripheral device, they expect to plug it in and find
>> that
>> it works, often without even installing the CD from the box. I don't
>> believe
>> Linux is yet simple enough and automatic enough and nontechnical enough
>> for
>> these mainstream users. So I don't recommend it. I firmly believe that
>> the
>> Macintosh does meet these criteria, and so I consider it the only
>> practical
>> alternative to Windows for mainstream, nontechie users.
>>
>> His comments are viewed and taken by a large number of executives around
>> the world and if you
>> guys can convince him, you would have a better chance.
>>
>> His email address: mossberg@wsj.com
>>
>> So any of you are brave enough, go troll him.
>>
>> End of my conversation with anyone associated with Linux advocacy.
>
> Obviously the man has never used Ubuntu, regardless of who he is. Devices
> are easier with Ubuntu than Windows, much easier. *Everything* is updated
> with the Ubuntu update, including programs such as Open Office and Fire
> Fox. Much simpler than Windows. There are no Spybot, Ad-Aware,
> Spywareblaster, anti virus programs, Java, Flash, etc. to daily check for
> updates. Ubuntu is much more user friendly than Windows. Course, neither
> you nor your copy and paste have used Ubuntu but that won't stop you from
> snootily referring to us like the KKK refers to afro Americans.
>
> Alias
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:%23z1l%23bHyHHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> xfile wrote:
>>>>> And always will be. I see you don't understand what Open Source means
>>>>> and you think that something only has value when you pay for it. How
>>>>> much do you pay your wife for sex or is free OK? Would paying her
>>>>> money
>>>>> make sex better?
>>>> Price doesn't mean just the purchase price. Easily find support
>>>> professionals, hardware and software compatibility issues, and
>>>> training,
>>>> and migration are also part of prices, and yes, they are part of
>>>> problems
>>>> for Vista as well, but those are also prices to be included sooner or
>>>> later.
>>> So far, I have paid NO money for Ubuntu and it runs great.
>>>
>>>> So people don't just think about purchase price and those who think
>>>> only
>>>> about purchase price is silly and naive, the least to say.
>>> See above.
>>>
>>>> And please don't use women or wife or sex as an example.
>>> I'll use any example my little hearts desires to use.
>>>
>>> But just in case
>>>> you want to know, I do pay her with all my love to have sex with her
>>>> and
>>>> that's why we call it - making love.
>>> You consider love to be money? How crass can you get?
>>>> Yes, we have to pay one way or the other.
>>>>
>>>>> Face it, you're betting on a bloated, DRN riddled, virus prone, anti
>>>>> piracy flawed programs prone, malware prone OS and you're jealous that
>>>>> someone might get something better for free. Get over it and go Open
>>>>> Source and see what you've been missing.
>>>> Yes, those are problems. Guess what, many are thinking Apple not Linux
>>>> for alternatives. Why? Vista's UI is terrible, Apple is questionable
>>>> depending on one's previous experience, and Linux has literally no UI
>>>> concept.
>>> False. I use the GUI for almost everything in Ubuntu. You obviously
>>> don't
>>> know what you're talking about. Beryl makes Aero look like an amateur
>>> did
>>> it.
>>>
>>>> So if you must, please at least come up some real life benefits for
>>>> switching over. All of the above are not even close to benefits.
>>> When the person I am explaining it to is open to change, there are no
>>> problems in their understanding. You, apparently, do have problems with
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23t$sMyGyHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Mike wrote:
>>>>>> In article <#LcfWQFyHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
>>>>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The difference this time is that there are viable alternatives in
>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>> Source when there wasn't for XP and all previous Windows releases.
>>>>>> Sure. The Open Source alternatives are so "viable" that they are
>>>>>> STILL given away
>>>>> And always will be. I see you don't understand what Open Source means
>>>>> and you think that something only has value when you pay for it. How
>>>>> much do you pay your wife for sex or is free OK? Would paying her
>>>>> money
>>>>> make sex better?
>>>>>
>>>>>> and they are STILL going nowhere on the desktop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>> False. Millions of people are now enjoying Linux and millions more,
>>>>> thanks to Vista's intrusive "anti piracy" programs and the improvement
>>>>> of Linux for the desktop, will get it. The Linux newsgroups are filled
>>>>> with posts saying "I'm a newbie".
>>>>>
>>>>> Face it, you're betting on a bloated, DRN riddled, virus prone, anti
>>>>> piracy flawed programs prone, malware prone OS and you're jealous that
>>>>> someone might get something better for free. Get over it and go Open
>>>>> Source and see what you've been missing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>
>>
>>

 

[Jason Yates]

Didn't the city of munich pull linux off their desktops? Linux might be a
great OS but it's ROI is still yet to be proven. A free OS is never FREE.
It still costs to support it and the app options for Linux is less than
Windows. The thing I like about Windows is they're consistent and
available. Keep improving Linux and ranting about Open Source-- I'm not
suggesting Linux sucks. But, until the ROI is competitive, I'd rather go
with Windows for now.



"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:%23t$sMyGyHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Mike wrote:
>> In article <#LcfWQFyHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>
>>> The difference this time is that there are viable alternatives in Open
>>> Source when there wasn't for XP and all previous Windows releases.
>>
>> Sure. The Open Source alternatives are so "viable" that they are STILL
>> given away
>
> And always will be. I see you don't understand what Open Source means and
> you think that something only has value when you pay for it. How much do
> you pay your wife for sex or is free OK? Would paying her money make sex
> better?
>
>> and they are STILL going nowhere on the desktop.
>>
>> Mike
>
> False. Millions of people are now enjoying Linux and millions more, thanks
> to Vista's intrusive "anti piracy" programs and the improvement of Linux
> for the desktop, will get it. The Linux newsgroups are filled with posts
> saying "I'm a newbie".
>
> Face it, you're betting on a bloated, DRN riddled, virus prone, anti
> piracy flawed programs prone, malware prone OS and you're jealous that
> someone might get something better for free. Get over it and go Open
> Source and see what you've been missing.
>
> Alias

 

[Ian Betts]

Your all nuts. People use what they want to. I use Vista, XP and Ubuntu.
Each one has its virtues and downfalls. Give this stupid bistro war a rest.



--
Ian

"Jason Yates" <jasony@nhoregon.com> wrote in message
news:eodc2gLyHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Didn't the city of munich pull linux off their desktops? Linux might be a
> great OS but it's ROI is still yet to be proven. A free OS is never FREE.
> It still costs to support it and the app options for Linux is less than
> Windows. The thing I like about Windows is they're consistent and
> available. Keep improving Linux and ranting about Open Source-- I'm not
> suggesting Linux sucks. But, until the ROI is competitive, I'd rather go
> with Windows for now.
>
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:%23t$sMyGyHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Mike wrote:
>>> In article <#LcfWQFyHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The difference this time is that there are viable alternatives in Open
>>>> Source when there wasn't for XP and all previous Windows releases.
>>>
>>> Sure. The Open Source alternatives are so "viable" that they are STILL
>>> given away
>>
>> And always will be. I see you don't understand what Open Source means and
>> you think that something only has value when you pay for it. How much do
>> you pay your wife for sex or is free OK? Would paying her money make sex
>> better?
>>
>>> and they are STILL going nowhere on the desktop.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>> False. Millions of people are now enjoying Linux and millions more,
>> thanks to Vista's intrusive "anti piracy" programs and the improvement of
>> Linux for the desktop, will get it. The Linux newsgroups are filled with
>> posts saying "I'm a newbie".
>>
>> Face it, you're betting on a bloated, DRN riddled, virus prone, anti
>> piracy flawed programs prone, malware prone OS and you're jealous that
>> someone might get something better for free. Get over it and go Open
>> Source and see what you've been missing.
>>
>> Alias
>
>

 

[Mike]

In article <M0bni.1130$fB2.846@newsfe04.lga>, Test User <Test@User.com>
wrote:

> Wrong, I've been using FreeBSD on the desktop for years.
> FreeBSD is a viable desktop option, its very stable and super secure.
> We have a ports system with over 17,000 programs to choose from and
> their all free. My sister installed that bloated beast called Vista and
> I played around with it for about an hour - IT'S CRAP, it's modern day
> Windows/Me. I've never seen any system in my life eat resources like
> Vista does.

Yeah, sure. We heard the same song when XP was released.

> If Windows is sooo damn hot, why are massive websites like yahoo and
> many ISP's gravitating and using BSD?

For the same reason Hotmail uses Windows? They use whatever works for
them?

Mike

 

[Tim Judd]

Mike wrote:
> In article <eg0OpFCyHHA.4896@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
> <msnews.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> I think Microsoft should change "The WOW Starts Now" to "The WTF Starts
>> Now". After only one day of using Vista I've come to the realization that
>> it simply wont work for me. All of my hardware is supported, however, most
>> of the applications I require on a day to day basis would not run (or
>> install). I've been doing a lot of reading regarding these type situations
>> and it seems more people are dissatisfied with Vista than there are who
>> actually like the new OS. Yea, it's pretty... but whats the use if there is
>> a ton of software that just wont function. Frustrating.
>
> Well, that's the thing about being an early adopter. In a year or 2
> when the app vendors catch up, none of this will be an issue.
>
> Remember, XP was reviled for the same reasons when it was released. It
> was "too big, too dumbed down, too much eye candy". Now, 6 years
> later, it's the "greatest OS Microsoft has ever released!"
>
> Mike

No, the greatest one was DOS -- before viruses, before the dumbification
of the UI in order to get Grandma to use the system. I am NOT saying
Grandmas can't use it, but you do understand that DOS was really.. one
of the better systems ever came out. Win3.11/WfW wasn't bad.. gave a
good UI for the time. But starting with XP, and including Vista, the UI
has been dumbified.

Second greatest OS was 98SE and some people still use it (previous job
in a school district was using it), and I think 2000 Pro is a great
system. I don't see myself buying another M$ OS now that Apple's prices
have come down and FreeBSD (My Unix flavor of choice) is so versatile
and ready to work.

XP is/was a Fisher Price looking system that just never appealed to me.
I got used to it, but it still has a Fisher Price look and feel every
time someone says XP. Also comes to mind is the fake abbreviation XP
had - Xtra Problems. </RANT>

Enjoy you week, everyone.

 

[Alias]

Gary wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:%23tlmZfJyHHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Gary wrote:
>>> "norm" <noone@afakeddomain.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uu8EQWJyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> Give it up already Linux and Ubuntu is crap on the desktop and over 98%
>>>>> of the world knows it.
>>>>> Those numbers have not made any significant changes in the last 10
>>>>> years.
>>>>> So go play with your other Linux droids.
>>>> Ubuntu is not crap on my desktop, so you might want to temper your urge
>>>> to speak for everyone. The safer statement might be that the majority of
>>>> the 98% that you speak of do not know of the linux alternative.
>>> Ya less the 1% can't be wrong. Use your 19th century Ubuntu. Anyone who
>>> needs to do more then brows the internet and wave the Ubuntu flag in
>>> windows newsgroups is going to need a real OS like windows to do real day
>>> to day work.
>> How long have you been clueless about Ubuntu? All your life?
>>
>> Alias
>
> I've been working with computer system long before you knew what a computer
> was.

Really? The first time I operated a computer was in 1968. Remember punch
cards?

> I've been playing with different versions of Linux and Ubuntu since it first
> came out.
> Its still a toy for a desktop OS always has been always will be.

What can Windows do that Ubuntu can't do besides accuse you of piracy,
play games requiring DX and attract viruses and malware?

> There has
> been no significant changes in years and you know it.

I've seen a significant change from Ubuntu 6.06 to 7.04.

> Insert your FUD here.

YOU insert it. Yuck!

Alias

 

[Alias]

norm wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>> "norm" <noone@afakeddomain.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uu8EQWJyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> Give it up already Linux and Ubuntu is crap on the desktop and over
>>>>> 98% of the world knows it.
>>>>> Those numbers have not made any significant changes in the last 10
>>>>> years.
>>>>> So go play with your other Linux droids.
>>>> Ubuntu is not crap on my desktop, so you might want to temper your
>>>> urge to speak for everyone. The safer statement might be that the
>>>> majority of the 98% that you speak of do not know of the linux
>>>> alternative.
>>>
>>> Ya less the 1% can't be wrong. Use your 19th century Ubuntu. Anyone
>>> who needs to do more then brows the internet and wave the Ubuntu flag
>>> in windows newsgroups is going to need a real OS like windows to do
>>> real day to day work.
>>>
>>
>> How long have you been clueless about Ubuntu? All your life?
>>
>> Alias
>
> And you do more to harm your cause than help it.
>

Care to address the issues or just shoot the messenger?

Alias

 

[Alias]

Gary wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:OxAUKeJyHHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> norm wrote:
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>> Give it up already Linux and Ubuntu is crap on the desktop and over 98%
>>>> of the world knows it.
>>>> Those numbers have not made any significant changes in the last 10
>>>> years.
>>>> So go play with your other Linux droids.
>>> Ubuntu is not crap on my desktop, so you might want to temper your urge
>>> to speak for everyone. The safer statement might be that the majority of
>>> the 98% that you speak of do not know of the linux alternative.
>> But when they do, bye bye Microsoft to the same place Enron went.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Yawn same old story. Just wait bla bla bla
>
>

Nero. Fiddling.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Gary wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:emowydJyHHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Give it up already Linux and Ubuntu is crap on the desktop and over 98%
>>> of the world knows it.
>> False and false.
>>
>>> Those numbers have not made any significant changes in the last 10 years.
>> False.
>>
>>> So go play with your other Linux droids.
>> The inevitable insult from someone jealous because he paid an arm and a
>> leg for Vista only to find out that Ubuntu is better and free. Too bad,
>> baby. Or should I say Hasta La Vista, Baby?
>>
>> Alias
>
> Didn't cost me a dime. And Ubuntu is still crap for anyone who does real
> work.
>
>

False (again).

Alias

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:emowydJyHHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>
>>>> Give it up already Linux and Ubuntu is crap on the desktop and over
>>>> 98% of the world knows it.
>>>
>>> False and false.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Those numbers have not made any significant changes in the last 10
>>>> years.
>>>
>>> False.
>>>
>>>
>>>> So go play with your other Linux droids.
>>>
>>> The inevitable insult from someone jealous because he paid an arm and
>>> a leg for Vista only to find out that Ubuntu is better and free. Too
>>> bad, baby. Or should I say Hasta La Vista, Baby?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>>
>>
>> Didn't cost me a dime. And Ubuntu is still crap for anyone who does
>> real work.
>>
>
>
> Truer words were never spoken!
> Frank

Course neither of you dare to say what "real work" is and can only
snootily sneer at Open Source. Jealousy usually works that way.

Alias

 

[Alias]

xfile wrote:
> Alias,
>
> You use race, religion, and women as examples and you expect mature people
> will seriously take your words either in here or in real life?

What is it about my examples that you don't understand?
>
> And months ago, I told you that I tried to install Ubuntu twice with two
> fresh burned DVD's but it wouldn't work and I even copied the error codes in
> here and none of you guys ever knew how to solve it. If it was Windows, I'd
> say it's a crap, but unfortunately, it's not a problem for it. Some people
> have been using the same standards for everything, and that's something you
> never learned.
>
> Call me stupid or something even worse because I don't know how to install
> Ubuntu and I won't care. But guess what, you can spend all you life doing
> the negative campaign here and it will go nowhere and none but you are
> suffering.
>
> You have a good day.

I am having a good day. It appears you aren't, though.

Alias
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:efl$ikIyHHA.4824@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> xfile wrote:
>>> Well, say whatever you wish but you should know that you and your friends
>>> are doing a "negative" campaign here. I don't remember when was the last
>>> time that a negative campaign actually worked.
>>>
>>> But I offer you and your friends an opportunity. The following is a
>>> comment By WALTER S. MOSSBERG, Wall Street Journal, April 26, 2007.
>>>
>>> Q: You often mention the Macintosh as an alternative to Windows, why
>>> don't
>>> you recommend the Linux operating system?
>>>
>>> A: I aim my columns at mainstream users doing typical tasks who have
>>> little
>>> or no technical knowledge, no help from experts, and no appetite for
>>> becoming techies. These folks want the computer to do things for them.
>>> They
>>> don't want to have to do much, if any, configuring of, or maintaining of,
>>> their computers. They have no patience for geeky procedures. For
>>> instance,
>>> when they buy a peripheral device, they expect to plug it in and find
>>> that
>>> it works, often without even installing the CD from the box. I don't
>>> believe
>>> Linux is yet simple enough and automatic enough and nontechnical enough
>>> for
>>> these mainstream users. So I don't recommend it. I firmly believe that
>>> the
>>> Macintosh does meet these criteria, and so I consider it the only
>>> practical
>>> alternative to Windows for mainstream, nontechie users.
>>>
>>> His comments are viewed and taken by a large number of executives around
>>> the world and if you
>>> guys can convince him, you would have a better chance.
>>>
>>> His email address: mossberg@wsj.com
>>>
>>> So any of you are brave enough, go troll him.
>>>
>>> End of my conversation with anyone associated with Linux advocacy.
>> Obviously the man has never used Ubuntu, regardless of who he is. Devices
>> are easier with Ubuntu than Windows, much easier. *Everything* is updated
>> with the Ubuntu update, including programs such as Open Office and Fire
>> Fox. Much simpler than Windows. There are no Spybot, Ad-Aware,
>> Spywareblaster, anti virus programs, Java, Flash, etc. to daily check for
>> updates. Ubuntu is much more user friendly than Windows. Course, neither
>> you nor your copy and paste have used Ubuntu but that won't stop you from
>> snootily referring to us like the KKK refers to afro Americans.
>>
>> Alias
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>> news:%23z1l%23bHyHHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> xfile wrote:
>>>>>> And always will be. I see you don't understand what Open Source means
>>>>>> and you think that something only has value when you pay for it. How
>>>>>> much do you pay your wife for sex or is free OK? Would paying her
>>>>>> money
>>>>>> make sex better?
>>>>> Price doesn't mean just the purchase price. Easily find support
>>>>> professionals, hardware and software compatibility issues, and
>>>>> training,
>>>>> and migration are also part of prices, and yes, they are part of
>>>>> problems
>>>>> for Vista as well, but those are also prices to be included sooner or
>>>>> later.
>>>> So far, I have paid NO money for Ubuntu and it runs great.
>>>>
>>>>> So people don't just think about purchase price and those who think
>>>>> only
>>>>> about purchase price is silly and naive, the least to say.
>>>> See above.
>>>>
>>>>> And please don't use women or wife or sex as an example.
>>>> I'll use any example my little hearts desires to use.
>>>>
>>>> But just in case
>>>>> you want to know, I do pay her with all my love to have sex with her
>>>>> and
>>>>> that's why we call it - making love.
>>>> You consider love to be money? How crass can you get?
>>>>> Yes, we have to pay one way or the other.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Face it, you're betting on a bloated, DRN riddled, virus prone, anti
>>>>>> piracy flawed programs prone, malware prone OS and you're jealous that
>>>>>> someone might get something better for free. Get over it and go Open
>>>>>> Source and see what you've been missing.
>>>>> Yes, those are problems. Guess what, many are thinking Apple not Linux
>>>>> for alternatives. Why? Vista's UI is terrible, Apple is questionable
>>>>> depending on one's previous experience, and Linux has literally no UI
>>>>> concept.
>>>> False. I use the GUI for almost everything in Ubuntu. You obviously
>>>> don't
>>>> know what you're talking about. Beryl makes Aero look like an amateur
>>>> did
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>> So if you must, please at least come up some real life benefits for
>>>>> switching over. All of the above are not even close to benefits.
>>>> When the person I am explaining it to is open to change, there are no
>>>> problems in their understanding. You, apparently, do have problems with
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23t$sMyGyHHA.4300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Mike wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <#LcfWQFyHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
>>>>>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The difference this time is that there are viable alternatives in
>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>> Source when there wasn't for XP and all previous Windows releases.
>>>>>>> Sure. The Open Source alternatives are so "viable" that they are
>>>>>>> STILL given away
>>>>>> And always will be. I see you don't understand what Open Source means
>>>>>> and you think that something only has value when you pay for it. How
>>>>>> much do you pay your wife for sex or is free OK? Would paying her
>>>>>> money
>>>>>> make sex better?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and they are STILL going nowhere on the desktop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> False. Millions of people are now enjoying Linux and millions more,
>>>>>> thanks to Vista's intrusive "anti piracy" programs and the improvement
>>>>>> of Linux for the desktop, will get it. The Linux newsgroups are filled
>>>>>> with posts saying "I'm a newbie".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Face it, you're betting on a bloated, DRN riddled, virus prone, anti
>>>>>> piracy flawed programs prone, malware prone OS and you're jealous that
>>>>>> someone might get something better for free. Get over it and go Open
>>>>>> Source and see what you've been missing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>

 

[The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy]

Frank wrote:
> Mike wrote:
>
>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to join
>> religious cults.
>>
> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's leading
> cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't deny they’re
> communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free software movement
> and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time (a lot of communist use
> linux). I don't know if being an atheist/communist is some kind of uber
> qualifier for being a linux candidate, but the philosophies do seem to
> mess together quite easily.
> Frank


LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/

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Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"They hacked the Microsoft website to make it think a linux box was a
windows box. Thats called hacking. People who do hacking are called
hackers."

"Only religious fanatics and totalitarian states equate morality with
legality."
- Linus Torvalds

 

[Alias]

The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Mike wrote:
>>
>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to join
>>> religious cults.
>>>
>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's
>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't deny
>> they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free software
>> movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time (a lot of
>> communist use linux). I don't know if being an atheist/communist is
>> some kind of uber qualifier for being a linux candidate, but the
>> philosophies do seem to mess together quite easily.
>> Frank
>
>
> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/
>

I think Frank *is* Steve Ballmer.

Alias

 

[Tim Judd]

norm wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> Give it up already Linux and Ubuntu is crap on the desktop and over
>> 98% of the world knows it.
>> Those numbers have not made any significant changes in the last 10 years.
>> So go play with your other Linux droids.
>
> Ubuntu is not crap on my desktop, so you might want to temper your urge
> to speak for everyone. The safer statement might be that the majority of
> the 98% that you speak of do not know of the linux alternative.
<SNIP>

But it has the color right.

Nice, warm brown color of fresh crap just squeezed out.


And really, M$ only has about 90% of the Internet community. 3.3%ish
for Linux, 3.8%ish for Apple, and the rest is 'Other'. (trying to find
source as we speak.. seen two sources, and don't have them bookmarked)

And Apple's Boot Camp technology on the Intel macs let you run any x86
operating system on your Apple hardware. So now you buy one physical
box and can run OS X, Windows, BSD, Linux, Solaris ...you name the rest.

(End of Transmission)

 

[Mike]

In article <uQ70n3NyHHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote:

> And really, M$ only has about 90% of the Internet community. 3.3%ish
> for Linux, 3.8%ish for Apple, and the rest is 'Other'. (trying to find
> source as we speak.. seen two sources, and don't have them bookmarked)

That Linux number is way high. It's actually below 1%. See

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=2

and

http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/June/os.php

and

http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist/zeitgeist-jun04.html

The last one is old, but is the latest numbers that Google published.
Gives a nice historical perspective for the non-growth of Linux desktops.

Of course, the Linux Loonies will deny these numbers. They always do.
Cue Alias and the Ubuntu marketing department.

Funny how no one else does. Mac users, Windows users, everyone agrees
these numbers are pretty accurate.

> And Apple's Boot Camp technology on the Intel macs let you run any x86
> operating system on your Apple hardware. So now you buy one physical
> box and can run OS X, Windows, BSD, Linux, Solaris ...you name the rest.

Just like *any* PC. I'm running OS X on an IBM ThinkPad T41.

Mike

 

[Frank]

The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> Mike wrote:
>>
>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to join
>>> religious cults.
>>>
>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's
>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't deny
>> they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free software
>> movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time (a lot of
>> communist use linux). I don't know if being an atheist/communist is
>> some kind of uber qualifier for being a linux candidate, but the
>> philosophies do seem to mess together quite easily.
>> Frank
>
>
>
> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/
>
It was intentional, seeing as how I kind of paraphrased Mr. Ballmer in
his contention that atheist & communist use and fit the linux free
software ideology rather nicely.
You don't see our main linux trolls vehemently denying that they are
atheist or communist do you?
Which in effect proves that SB and me (kind of rhymes, huh?) are correct
in our assessment.
Frank

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to join
>>>> religious cults.
>>>>
>>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's
>>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't deny
>>> they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free software
>>> movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time (a lot of
>>> communist use linux). I don't know if being an atheist/communist is
>>> some kind of uber qualifier for being a linux candidate, but the
>>> philosophies do seem to mess together quite easily.
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>>
>> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/
>>
>
> I think Frank *is* Steve Ballmer.
>
> Alias

I will consider that as a real compliment!
Thank you.
Frank

 

[Alias]

Mike wrote:
> In article <uQ70n3NyHHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
> Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And really, M$ only has about 90% of the Internet community. 3.3%ish
>> for Linux, 3.8%ish for Apple, and the rest is 'Other'. (trying to find
>> source as we speak.. seen two sources, and don't have them bookmarked)
>
> That Linux number is way high. It's actually below 1%. See
>
> http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=2
>
> and
>
> http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/June/os.php
>
> and
>
> http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist/zeitgeist-jun04.html
>
> The last one is old, but is the latest numbers that Google published.
> Gives a nice historical perspective for the non-growth of Linux desktops.
>
> Of course, the Linux Loonies will deny these numbers. They always do.
> Cue Alias and the Ubuntu marketing department.
>
> Funny how no one else does. Mac users, Windows users, everyone agrees
> these numbers are pretty accurate.
>
>> And Apple's Boot Camp technology on the Intel macs let you run any x86
>> operating system on your Apple hardware. So now you buy one physical
>> box and can run OS X, Windows, BSD, Linux, Solaris ...you name the rest.
>
> Just like *any* PC. I'm running OS X on an IBM ThinkPad T41.
>
> Mike

You misunderstand. As a Windows user for many years, I thought I would
never use Linux. I thought it would be too much command line and terms I
really don't want to learn and would involve a lot of work and I believe
that's the way Linux was for many years and, hence, the general opinion
that Linux is for geeks. Once I installed it, I realized that my
preconceptions were false and found it fairly easy to install and use.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Or some drivel like that. Frankly, I...don't have time to join
>>>>> religious cults.
>>>>>
>>>> Which is strange (well maybe not) because a couple of unbuntu's
>>>> leading cheerleaders in this ng are admitted atheist and don't deny
>>>> they’re communist which seems to fit in nicely with the free
>>>> software movement and echoes what SB of MS has said for some time (a
>>>> lot of communist use linux). I don't know if being an
>>>> atheist/communist is some kind of uber qualifier for being a linux
>>>> candidate, but the philosophies do seem to mess together quite easily.
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LOL! Do you realize how much you sound like Steve Ballmer?
>>>
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/
>>>
>>
>> I think Frank *is* Steve Ballmer.
>>
>> Alias
>
> I will consider that as a real compliment!
> Thank you.
> Frank

Figures.

Alias