The WTF Starts Now

[Adam Albright]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:43:43 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:


>Oh please don't quote that pretend ms hating rag 'theregister". They
>refer to ms a the "vole".
>They have no creditability...neither do you for that matter.
>Frank

So says the most laughed at troll in this newsgroup.

ROTFLMAO!

 

[Tim Judd]

I dare you to say we're on topic to this NG.

Test User wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:39:02 -0600
> Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Test User wrote:
>> <SNIP>
>>
>>> Mike, You will have to admit that FreeBSD makes a better desktop
>>> than Windows or MAC.
>> Voicing your opinions on this thread is becoming very regular. So
>> here I go.
>>
>> I enjoy Apple's OS X -- everything about it. But between Mac and
>> FreeBSD, it's a tossup on the desktop, I think they're both excellent
>> choices.
>
> I'm certainly not going to knock OS X its a very stable and secure O/S,
> I do however prefer FreeBSD to OS-X (I like free software ;-) I've got
> over 17,000 programs to choose from, not to mention you can install
> Xorg and build the system that YOU WANT, not these pre-bundled bloated
> Linux systems link OpenSuse and Ubuntu just to name a few..

Good point.

>> Much better than Windows and Linux, IMO.
>
>
> Gentoo is an okay O/S, and I do have run run a few linux apps on BSD
> mainly it's just Linux-Opera due to lack of a native flash-plugin.

The only "linux apps" I use are:

PXELINUX
udpcast (via PXE)

Those two have got a real good niche, in my eyes. I'm working on a
cloning solution that is entirely network based, and those two play a
crucial role in it. But all the servers and the actual diskless OS'es I
use are all BSD based.

It's amazing how quiet things get when you don't run with flash support.
It's part of the reason I'm using BSD only on my box now. You might
get a messagebox saying "click ok to download the flash plugin" but it
just don't work. I'm flashless and enjoying it.

 

[Mike]

In article <uWPk1VnyHHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
Tim Judd <tjudd01@hotmail.com> wrote:

> It's amazing how quiet things get when you don't run with flash support.
> It's part of the reason I'm using BSD only on my box now. You might
> get a messagebox saying "click ok to download the flash plugin" but it
> just don't work. I'm flashless and enjoying it.

Yeah, I do the same thing with IE7. Download flash, install it, then
disable it. That way, you don't get constant messages to install it
because it IS installed, and you don't get annoying animated ads all
over the place because its disabled!

I'm flashless and enjoying it.

Mike

 

[Lang Murphy]

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:%23gWwlFhyHHA.312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Lang Murphy wrote:
>> "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message
>> news:no-4DFF5A.09545717072007@news.supernews.com...
>>> In article <#PQAWcHyHHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Another Windows fan who can't respond to content and can only hurl the
>>>> same, tired and unfounded insults.
>>>
>>> Another Linux marketing droid who doesn't understand that this is a
>>> Windows group and no one gives a crap about Linux or "free software".
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>> I both agree and disagree. Alias is a Ubuntu troll who refuses to admit
>> that his OT, constant, day-in, day-out, posts about Ubuntu in -this- ng
>> make him a troll. And I -do- give a crap about nix... if a distro ever
>> shows up that "works" for me, I'll happily run it on one of my boxes
>> here. Right next to one of my Vista boxes. ;-) (I need to D/L and install
>> PCLinuxOS... as I told another poster, in another thread, I would...
>> haven't gotten around to it yet...)
>>
>> Lang
>
> Helping frustrated Vista users by suggesting an alternative that they have
> probably never heard of is not trolling. It's a *genuine* and viable
> suggestion.
>
> Alias


Well, I guess I'll just to have to keep replying to your "broken record"
rationalized response. Your Ubuntu jihad in this ng is not a -genuine-
attempt to help Vista users, no matter how many times you claim it is. Every
OS is a viable alternative. Thank god we don't have OS/2 freaks, or RedHat
freaks, or OS/X freaks posting constantly, day-in, day-out, that Vista sucks
and we should all try that other OS.

There are a number of other nix guys who hang out in this ng... one
difference between you and them is they don't barge in on ten threads a day
and parrot "Try Ubuntu." The other difference is that they, apparently, have
enough PC knowledge to actually offer assistance to other people. I've seen
your attempts at "assistance." You can't be serious. Oh, wait, you are. No
help whatsoever.

Lang

 

[Frank]

Tim Judd wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Tim Judd wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tim Judd wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I promote Apple and will physically harm people who advocate
>>>> linux, if > I have access to them.
>>>>
>>>> Charming. Do you put this on your curriculum vitae? What other
>>>> groups will you physically harm if you have access to them?
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> What is a curriculum vitae? and there is no other group I would
>>> harm. you're just fanning the flame when you advocate linux.
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't want you to get cold ;-)
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> Please tell me what a cirriculum vitae is.
>
> I think it's a Spain thing.

Ok, ok...a curriculum vitae (correct sp), is just a fancy word generally
used by members of academia and research instead of using the word résumé.
It is a term most often used in academic & research circles when
applying for a job, or a position as they prefer to call them.
Basically, they mean the same thing.
The main difference is length as in number of pages. A curriculum vitae
can be very voluminous...I've seen some run 22+ pages of single spaced
typing.
Whereas a résumé ideally should be all on one or two pages maximum.
Frank

 

[Tim Judd]

Frank wrote:
> Tim Judd wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Tim Judd wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tim Judd wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > I promote Apple and will physically harm people who advocate
>>>>> linux, if > I have access to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charming. Do you put this on your curriculum vitae? What other
>>>>> groups will you physically harm if you have access to them?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is a curriculum vitae? and there is no other group I would
>>>> harm. you're just fanning the flame when you advocate linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't want you to get cold ;-)
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> Please tell me what a cirriculum vitae is.
>>
>> I think it's a Spain thing.
>
> Ok, ok...a curriculum vitae (correct sp), is just a fancy word generally
> used by members of academia and research instead of using the word résumé.
> It is a term most often used in academic & research circles when
> applying for a job, or a position as they prefer to call them.
> Basically, they mean the same thing.
> The main difference is length as in number of pages. A curriculum vitae
> can be very voluminous...I've seen some run 22+ pages of single spaced
> typing.
> Whereas a résumé ideally should be all on one or two pages maximum.
> Frank

Thank you Frank.

Very insightful and useful. I appreciate it.

 

[Alias]

Tim Judd wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Tim Judd wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Tim Judd wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I promote Apple and will physically harm people who advocate
>>>> linux, if > I have access to them.
>>>>
>>>> Charming. Do you put this on your curriculum vitae? What other
>>>> groups will you physically harm if you have access to them?
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> What is a curriculum vitae? and there is no other group I would
>>> harm. you're just fanning the flame when you advocate linux.
>>
>> I wouldn't want you to get cold ;-)
>>
>> Alias
>
> Please tell me what a cirriculum vitae is.

No such thing. I wrote *curriculum* vitae, otherwise known as a resumé,
CV or BIO.

> I think it's a Spain thing.

I know it's an international thing for those who are educated enough to
know what it is.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Lang Murphy wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:%23gWwlFhyHHA.312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Lang Murphy wrote:
>>> "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message
>>> news:no-4DFF5A.09545717072007@news.supernews.com...
>>>> In article <#PQAWcHyHHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
>>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Another Windows fan who can't respond to content and can only hurl the
>>>>> same, tired and unfounded insults.
>>>>
>>>> Another Linux marketing droid who doesn't understand that this is a
>>>> Windows group and no one gives a crap about Linux or "free software".
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> I both agree and disagree. Alias is a Ubuntu troll who refuses to
>>> admit that his OT, constant, day-in, day-out, posts about Ubuntu in
>>> -this- ng make him a troll. And I -do- give a crap about nix... if a
>>> distro ever shows up that "works" for me, I'll happily run it on one
>>> of my boxes here. Right next to one of my Vista boxes. ;-) (I need to
>>> D/L and install PCLinuxOS... as I told another poster, in another
>>> thread, I would... haven't gotten around to it yet...)
>>>
>>> Lang
>>
>> Helping frustrated Vista users by suggesting an alternative that they
>> have probably never heard of is not trolling. It's a *genuine* and
>> viable suggestion.
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> Well, I guess I'll just to have to keep replying to your "broken record"
> rationalized response. Your Ubuntu jihad in this ng is not a -genuine-
> attempt to help Vista users, no matter how many times you claim it is.
> Every OS is a viable alternative. Thank god we don't have OS/2 freaks,
> or RedHat freaks, or OS/X freaks posting constantly, day-in, day-out,
> that Vista sucks and we should all try that other OS.
>
> There are a number of other nix guys who hang out in this ng... one
> difference between you and them is they don't barge in on ten threads a
> day and parrot "Try Ubuntu." The other difference is that they,
> apparently, have enough PC knowledge to actually offer assistance to
> other people. I've seen your attempts at "assistance." You can't be
> serious. Oh, wait, you are. No help whatsoever.
>
> Lang

I'll keep posting my Ubuntu suggestions to the newbies that are tearing
their hair out because of Vista and you keep posting your insults.

Deal?

Alias

 

[Mike]

In article <#iemLigyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

> Using the Live CD is not the same as installing it.

Then what's the point of it?

Mike

 

[Mike]

In article <#dzl92UyHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

> Do you enjoy being a bigot?

Do you enjoy being a troll?

Mike

 

[MICHAEL]

* Mike:
> In article <#iemLigyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>
>> Using the Live CD is not the same as installing it.
>
> Then what's the point of it?

Why ask such a stupid question?

LiveCDs are used so that folks can get a feel or taste
of the product... the same reason why Microsoft has
released numerous VHD products.

But, most LiveCDs can also be installed.


-Michael

 

[Alias]

Mike wrote:
> In article <#dzl92UyHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>
>> Do you enjoy being a bigot?
>
> Do you enjoy being a troll?
>
> Mike

Suggesting an alternative to the buggy, virus and malware prone, DRM,
WPA and WGA riddled OS is most definitely helping people. Lying about
and insulting people like Frank does most definitely helps no one.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Mike wrote:
> In article <#iemLigyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>
>> Using the Live CD is not the same as installing it.
>
> Then what's the point of it?
>
> Mike

To see if your hardware will work with Ubuntu, of course. You don't
really get a feel for it until you've updated it and installed the
programs you want and the codecs, video drivers, Beryl, etc.

Alias

 

[Mike]

In article <uithnrsyHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

> Mike wrote:
> > In article <#dzl92UyHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
> > Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
> >
> >> Do you enjoy being a bigot?
> >
> > Do you enjoy being a troll?
> >
> > Mike
>
> Suggesting an alternative to the buggy, virus and malware prone, DRM,
> WPA and WGA riddled OS is most definitely helping people.

Preaching Linux in a Windows group is the very definition of troll.
What kind of reaction would I get if I went to the Linux groups and
answered *every* request for help with "switch to Windows"?

Mike

 

[Mike]

In article <#iOYpssyHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

> Mike wrote:
> > In article <#iemLigyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
> > Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
> >
> >> Using the Live CD is not the same as installing it.
> >
> > Then what's the point of it?
> >
> > Mike
>
> To see if your hardware will work with Ubuntu, of course.

Which it (mostly) did. The only thing that didn't work was the
wireless nic. Wired nic worked fine.

> You don't really get a feel for it until you've updated it and installed the
> programs you want and the codecs, video drivers, Beryl, etc.

Sure you do. There were no apps that I wanted to install, since there
are none that I wanted period. For some people I'm sure it's good
enough, just not for me.

Mike

 

[Mike]

In article <etNpeqsyHHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote:

> * Mike:
> > In article <#iemLigyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
> > Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
> >
> >> Using the Live CD is not the same as installing it.
> >
> > Then what's the point of it?
>
> Why ask such a stupid question?

Because Alias raised the issue.

> LiveCDs are used so that folks can get a feel or taste
> of the product... the same reason why Microsoft has
> released numerous VHD products.

Exactly. That's what I used it for. I just didn't like the feel or
taste.

> But, most LiveCDs can also be installed.

It doesn't install in VPC. I've tried several times, with 2 versions.

Mike

 

[Alias]

Mike wrote:
> In article <uithnrsyHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>
>> Mike wrote:
>>> In article <#dzl92UyHHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you enjoy being a bigot?
>>> Do you enjoy being a troll?
>>>
>>> Mike
>> Suggesting an alternative to the buggy, virus and malware prone, DRM,
>> WPA and WGA riddled OS is most definitely helping people.
>
> Preaching Linux in a Windows group is the very definition of troll.
> What kind of reaction would I get if I went to the Linux groups and
> answered *every* request for help with "switch to Windows"?
>
> Mike

Not a helpful suggestion because Linux isn't

Buggy

Virus or malware prone.

Riddled with DRM.

Packaged with WPA and WGA.

Soooooooooooo, if you think one should have control over one's computer,
Ubuntu is obviously a better choice than Vista.

Don't like my suggestions? Don't read them.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Mike wrote:
> In article <#iOYpssyHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>
>> Mike wrote:
>>> In article <#iemLigyHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Using the Live CD is not the same as installing it.
>>> Then what's the point of it?
>>>
>>> Mike
>> To see if your hardware will work with Ubuntu, of course.
>
> Which it (mostly) did. The only thing that didn't work was the
> wireless nic. Wired nic worked fine.
>
>> You don't really get a feel for it until you've updated it and installed the
>> programs you want and the codecs, video drivers, Beryl, etc.
>
> Sure you do. There were no apps that I wanted to install, since there
> are none that I wanted period. For some people I'm sure it's good
> enough, just not for me.
>
> Mike

Like I said, you really don't know what it's like until you install it.
The live CD won't show what Beryl can do, for example. You can't find
out what the search is like unless you've installed it and have
something to search for, etc., etc. You can't play with Streamtuner and
see how well it rips songs off the radio and converts them into MP3s. Of
course, if you went in with the attitude that you won't like it, it's
unlikely you will.

Alias

 

[Mike]

In article <eFx3m5syHHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

> Not a helpful suggestion because Linux isn't

Ready for the Desktop.

Useful.

Easy to install/use.

Compatible with existing software sold everywhere.

Compatible with what your friends/neighbors/coworkers are running.

Sooooooo, if you want to actually run real applications on your
computer, and not spend months testing endless "distros" to see which
one is "right for you", Windows is obviously a better choice than Linux.

Don't like Windows? Go away.

Mike

 

[Mike]

In article <#JSbQ8syHHA.5408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

> Like I said, you really don't know what it's like until you install it.
> The live CD won't show what Beryl can do, for example. You can't find
> out what the search is like unless you've installed it and have
> something to search for, etc., etc. You can't play with Streamtuner and
> see how well it rips songs off the radio and converts them into MP3s.

But I already do all of that (and more) with Windows and OS X. What do
I gain with Linux?

> Of course, if you went in with the attitude that you won't like it, it's
> unlikely you will.

Sounds like your attitude about Windows.

Mike