The WTF Starts Now

[Adam Albright]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:48:58 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:

>Could you possible post more lies? You've got some real psychological
>problems that revolve around dealing with the truth.

That coming from Frankie who's accused me of being a drunk countless
times. You are the liar Frank.

>Get help and get lost as you're nothing more than a lying,
>deceitful,linux losing as*shole and we all know it.

Substitute 'Microsoft fanboy' and you're describing yourself Frank.

 

[Alias]

Gary wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:%23Boy1LuyHHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Mike wrote:
>>> In article <eFx3m5syHHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not a helpful suggestion because Linux isn't
>>> Ready for the Desktop.
>> False.
>>
>>> Useful.
>> False
>>> Easy to install/use.
>> Easier than Windows, whatever flavor.
>>
>>> Compatible with existing software sold everywhere.
>> Bull crap.
>>> Compatible with what your friends/neighbors/coworkers are running.
>> More bull crap.
>>> Sooooooo, if you want to actually run real applications on your computer,
>>> and not spend months testing endless "distros" to see which one is "right
>>> for you", Windows is obviously a better choice than Linux.
>> Only for ill informed people like you.
>>
>>> Don't like Windows? Go away.
>>>
>>> Mike
>> No.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Does you nose get bigger when you lie like this.
> Maybe you suffer from hypergraphia and its the only way you can be
> satisfied.
>
>

Prove that they are lies. You can't so you've just lied, not me.

Alias

 

[MICHAEL]

* Mike:
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:%23$daoJuyHHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Don't be so ridiculous. Comparing housing and even food to
>> some fukkin piece of software is just plain ignut.
>
> Why? "It's Free" appears to be it's only advantage.

It's free, and for the average user it can do everything that
they already do in Windows.

>> However, if the housing and food was of the same quality or
>> better and was being giving away for free- could you blame
>> folks for at least trying it?
>
> But that's the point. Free is never as good as $. If it was it wouldn't
> be free.

While that may be true in many circumstances, it is not so in
this case. Many people put lots of effort, talent, and testing into
Linux and FreeBSD. Their sweat equity has paid the price for
all those that want to use it.

> Let's reverse the situation. Let's say that MS has been giving away
> Windows for free for the last 20 years, and in that time it managed to
> barely scrape out a 1% desktop share. If you can't get people to use it
> even by giving it away, what does that say about the product?

Do you not understand how Microsoft really came to conquer the
mass consumer desktop and what they've done to keep that?

Now, you have a mass consumer base that only knows Windows and
most have no idea what Linux is... not a clue. They want what is
familiar. It takes time for people to come around. Similar to the
arguments about why many folks are complaining about Vista.
But, I guarantee you this- if you took all Windows out of stores,
and computers came preinstalled with Linux- people would get
used to Linux.... and for most users, Linux can do exactly the same
thing they are already doing in Windows.

-Michael

 

[Adam Albright]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:00:56 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:

>Alias wrote:
>
>>
>> Ho hum. I have played with Vista, installed.
>
>
>Ut, ut,ut...no more lying! Playing with Vista in a store is nothing like
>installing and using Vista on your own computer.
>You've not installed Vista on your computer so stop pretending like you
>have.
>No more lying!

No more lying says the newsgroups's biggest liar. How delusional is
that?

 

[MICHAEL]

* Alias:
> Mike wrote:
>
>> But that's the point. Free is never as good as $. If it was it
>> wouldn't be free.
>
> So you pay for sex?
>
> Alias

<BG>


-Michael

 

[Mike]

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:%23Q97lbuyHHA.2224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Mike wrote:
>
>>
>> But that's the point. Free is never as good as $. If it was it
>> wouldn't be free.
>
> So you pay for sex?

Why are you always bringing up sex? How old are you?

Mike

 

[Alias]

Mike wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:eW6M0NuyHHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> But I already do all of that (and more) with Windows and OS X. What
>>> do I gain with Linux?
>>
>> Freedom from WPA, WGA, viruses and malware. Not to mention the fact
>> that Ubuntu doesn't require the hardware horsepower that Vista does.
>> And, it's FREE, can be copied, installed on as many computers as you
>> like ...
>
> I have no problems with any of that. Besides, I get all my MS software
> for FREE, because I have an MSDN account in my name where I work. So
> FREE is no advantage to me.
>
> So there are no, real advantages to Linux? I didn't think so.
>
> Mike
>

Not virus or malware prone is another. Not having to call India is
another. Beryl makes Aero look like an amateur programmed it. Less
hardware reqs. is another. Everything gets updated at once is another.
No need to be up on if there's a new Java, Flash, etc. MUCH easier to
install than XP or Vista.

Most people have to pay for Vista so the fact that your BOSS paid for
your copy has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Mike wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:%23Q97lbuyHHA.2224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Mike wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> But that's the point. Free is never as good as $. If it was it
>>> wouldn't be free.
>>
>> So you pay for sex?
>
> Why are you always bringing up sex? How old are you?
>
> Mike
>

I'm not a virgin if that's what you're getting at. Are you afraid of sex
or something?

The reason I bring up sex is that it's something everyone can relate to
except maybe you and Frank.

Alias

 

[Mike]

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:u$yKoeuyHHA.2224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Mike wrote:
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:%23Boy1LuyHHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Not a helpful suggestion because Linux isn't
>>>>
>>>> Ready for the Desktop.
>>>
>>> False.
>>
>> Yeah that's why it's managed to shoot up to 1% desktop usage in 10 years!
>
> Not relevant.

Yes, that's right. Wave your hands and say "no no no look over here.
Those numbers don't matter, only my opinion matters!"

If Linux was great and "free", it would be taking the world by storm.
Unfortunately it's only "free".

Mike

 

[Alias]

MICHAEL wrote:
> * Mike:
>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23$daoJuyHHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Don't be so ridiculous. Comparing housing and even food to
>>> some fukkin piece of software is just plain ignut.
>> Why? "It's Free" appears to be it's only advantage.
>
> It's free, and for the average user it can do everything that
> they already do in Windows.
>
>>> However, if the housing and food was of the same quality or
>>> better and was being giving away for free- could you blame
>>> folks for at least trying it?
>> But that's the point. Free is never as good as $. If it was it wouldn't
>> be free.
>
> While that may be true in many circumstances, it is not so in
> this case. Many people put lots of effort, talent, and testing into
> Linux and FreeBSD. Their sweat equity has paid the price for
> all those that want to use it.
>
>> Let's reverse the situation. Let's say that MS has been giving away
>> Windows for free for the last 20 years, and in that time it managed to
>> barely scrape out a 1% desktop share. If you can't get people to use it
>> even by giving it away, what does that say about the product?
>
> Do you not understand how Microsoft really came to conquer the
> mass consumer desktop and what they've done to keep that?
>
> Now, you have a mass consumer base that only knows Windows and
> most have no idea what Linux is... not a clue. They want what is
> familiar. It takes time for people to come around. Similar to the
> arguments about why many folks are complaining about Vista.
> But, I guarantee you this- if you took all Windows out of stores,
> and computers came preinstalled with Linux- people would get
> used to Linux.... and for most users, Linux can do exactly the same
> thing they are already doing in Windows.
>
> -Michael

Hear, hear!

Alias

 

[Adam Albright]

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:46:02 -0400, "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote:

>But that's the point. Free is never as good as $. If it was it wouldn't
>be free.

Four totally free vastly superior applications:

GOM Player
Virtual Dub
GIMP
XnView

More proof fanboys never think, they just babble.

 

[MICHAEL]

* Mike:
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:eW6M0NuyHHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> But I already do all of that (and more) with Windows and OS X. What do I gain with
>>> Linux?
>> Freedom from WPA, WGA, viruses and malware. Not to mention the fact that Ubuntu doesn't
>> require the hardware horsepower that Vista does. And, it's FREE, can be copied, installed
>> on as many computers as you like ...
>
> I have no problems with any of that. Besides, I get all my MS software for FREE, because I
> have an MSDN account in my name where I work. So FREE is no advantage to me.

I hope you aren't using your MSDN free OS on production
machines. Testing only.... right?

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/aa948864.aspx

<quote>
The MSDN End User License Agreement (EULA) allows each person with an MSDN license to use all
of the software that is included in the subscription for development, test, and demonstration
purposes only.
</quote>


-Michael

 

[Alias]

Mike wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:u$yKoeuyHHA.2224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Mike wrote:
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>> news:%23Boy1LuyHHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Not a helpful suggestion because Linux isn't
>>>>>
>>>>> Ready for the Desktop.
>>>>
>>>> False.
>>>
>>> Yeah that's why it's managed to shoot up to 1% desktop usage in 10
>>> years!
>>
>> Not relevant.
>
> Yes, that's right. Wave your hands and say "no no no look over here.
> Those numbers don't matter, only my opinion matters!"
>
> If Linux was great and "free", it would be taking the world by storm.
> Unfortunately it's only "free".
>
> Mike
>

The other day I was IMing with a lady in England. She didn't even know
what Windows is, much less Linux. She, for some reason, thought that
windows was a pane you look through made of glass. MOST people don't
know what Linux is. I am being thoughtful and letting as many people as
I can know about it.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:46:02 -0400, "Mike" <no@where.man> wrote:
>
>> But that's the point. Free is never as good as $. If it was it wouldn't
>> be free.
>
> Four totally free vastly superior applications:
>
> GOM Player
> Virtual Dub
> GIMP
> XnView
>
> More proof fanboys never think, they just babble.
>

Mike doesn't pay for the air he breathes either but you won't see him
rejecting it.

Alias

 

[Alias]

MICHAEL wrote:
>
> * Mike:
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:eW6M0NuyHHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> But I already do all of that (and more) with Windows and OS X. What do I gain with
>>>> Linux?
>>> Freedom from WPA, WGA, viruses and malware. Not to mention the fact that Ubuntu doesn't
>>> require the hardware horsepower that Vista does. And, it's FREE, can be copied, installed
>>> on as many computers as you like ...
>> I have no problems with any of that. Besides, I get all my MS software for FREE, because I
>> have an MSDN account in my name where I work. So FREE is no advantage to me.
>
> I hope you aren't using your MSDN free OS on production
> machines. Testing only.... right?
>
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/aa948864.aspx
>
> <quote>
> The MSDN End User License Agreement (EULA) allows each person with an MSDN license to use all
> of the software that is included in the subscription for development, test, and demonstration
> purposes only.
> </quote>
>
>
> -Michael

Giggle.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Mike wrote:
>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:%23Boy1LuyHHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>>> Not a helpful suggestion because Linux isn't
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ready for the Desktop.
>>>
>>>
>>> False.
>>
>>
>> Yeah that's why it's managed to shoot up to 1% desktop usage in 10 years!
>
>
> Not relevant.
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Useful.
>>>
>>>
>>> False
>>
>>
>> See above.
>
>
> Not relevant.
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Easy to install/use.
>>>
>>>
>>> Easier than Windows, whatever flavor.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, sure. See above.
>
>
> I know for a fact it is easier to install than Windows, much easier.
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Compatible with existing software sold everywhere.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bull crap.
>>
>>
>> So I can run down to Target and buy something and install it in Linux?
>> You're a lying troll and you know it.
>
>
> Depends what you plan to buy at Target but, no, I can't run down to
> Target because there are no Targets where I live.
>
>>
>>>> Compatible with what your friends/neighbors/coworkers are running.
>>>
>>>
>>> More bull crap.
>>
>>
>> No one I know runs it. No one at work runs it. Just admit that it's
>> a failure and move on.
>>
>> Mike
>
>
> I can't be responsible for who you hang out with.
>
> Alias

No, you're not relevant. Never have been and never will be.
Frank

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ho hum. I have played with Vista, installed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ut, ut,ut...no more lying! Playing with Vista in a store is nothing
>> like installing and using Vista on your own computer.
>> You've not installed Vista on your computer so stop pretending like
>> you have.
>> No more lying!
>
>
> One doesn't have to do the actual installation to play with it. Last
> Saturday, the man at the computer store let me play with it for a couple
> of hours and my opinion stands, your lies notwithstanding.
>
>
>>
>> It's a eye candied XP Pro
>>
>>> SE with a helluva lot of anti piracy crap and DRM crap.
>>
>>
>> Proves my point. You know nothing at all about Vista. Nothing!
>> No more lies!
>
>
> Yawn, more lies from Frankie Boy.
>
>>
>> If MS would
>>
>>> realize that most people are honest and take that crap off and make
>>> UAC reasonable, I would buy Vista.
>>
>>
>> I seriously doubt that.
>
>
> I would, honest. I have a ninja machine that I use for games that can
> only be played on Windows.
>
>>
>> Can you say the same for Ubuntu?
>>
>> I actually installed ubuntu on my computer and used it for a short time.
>
>
> I used Vista for a short time.
>
>> I've tried many linux distros over the years (installed) and simply
>> have no use for linux. None. You have never installed Vista on your
>> computer. Never
>> No more lies!
>
>
> See above, liar.
>
>>
>> No, you
>>
>>> can't because your (correct spelling you're) a lying bigot whose only
>>> goal in this newsgroup is to insult and lie about people.
>
>
> Here's proof:
>
>>
>> Sorry pal, but that seems to be your domain. You don't have Vista,
>> never did and proly never will. You do nothing but bash MS and promote
>> linux. You are the classic definition of a troll.
>> Classic.
>> Then of course, you deny all of the above.
>> Frank
>>
>> Post your lying response below.
>>


Like I said, you don't have Vista installed. "Playing" with Vista in a
store is nothing, repeat nothing like installing Vista on your own
machine and using it in a productive manner with the other software you
need and like.
And we all know that "stores" don't permit connecting to the Internet,
nor do they have any real productive software pre-installed.
You're not making any kind of a valid point...your argument...what
little there ever was.. has fallen completely apart.
You sound the complete fool, but if you prefer to keep making a fool out
of yourself with such stupid comments, then don't let me stand in your way.
Frank

Post your foolish comments below.

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ho hum. I have played with Vista, installed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ut, ut,ut...no more lying! Playing with Vista in a store is nothing
>>> like installing and using Vista on your own computer.
>>> You've not installed Vista on your computer so stop pretending like
>>> you have.
>>> No more lying!
>>
>>
>> One doesn't have to do the actual installation to play with it. Last
>> Saturday, the man at the computer store let me play with it for a
>> couple of hours and my opinion stands, your lies notwithstanding.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> It's a eye candied XP Pro
>>>
>>>> SE with a helluva lot of anti piracy crap and DRM crap.
>>>
>>>
>>> Proves my point. You know nothing at all about Vista. Nothing!
>>> No more lies!
>>
>>
>> Yawn, more lies from Frankie Boy.
>>
>>>
>>> If MS would
>>>
>>>> realize that most people are honest and take that crap off and make
>>>> UAC reasonable, I would buy Vista.
>>>
>>>
>>> I seriously doubt that.
>>
>>
>> I would, honest. I have a ninja machine that I use for games that can
>> only be played on Windows.
>>
>>>
>>> Can you say the same for Ubuntu?
>>>
>>> I actually installed ubuntu on my computer and used it for a short time.
>>
>>
>> I used Vista for a short time.
>>
>>> I've tried many linux distros over the years (installed) and simply
>>> have no use for linux. None. You have never installed Vista on your
>>> computer. Never
>>> No more lies!
>>
>>
>> See above, liar.
>>
>>>
>>> No, you
>>>
>>>> can't because your (correct spelling you're) a lying bigot whose
>>>> only goal in this newsgroup is to insult and lie about people.
>>
>>
>> Here's proof:
>>
>>>
>>> Sorry pal, but that seems to be your domain. You don't have Vista,
>>> never did and proly never will. You do nothing but bash MS and
>>> promote linux. You are the classic definition of a troll.
>>> Classic.
>>> Then of course, you deny all of the above.
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> Post your lying response below.
>>>
>
>
> Like I said, you don't have Vista installed. "Playing" with Vista in a
> store is nothing, repeat nothing like installing Vista on your own
> machine and using it in a productive manner with the other software you
> need and like.
> And we all know that "stores" don't permit connecting to the Internet,
> nor do they have any real productive software pre-installed.
> You're not making any kind of a valid point...your argument...what
> little there ever was.. has fallen completely apart.
> You sound the complete fool, but if you prefer to keep making a fool out
> of yourself with such stupid comments, then don't let me stand in your way.
> Frank

So, you installed Ubuntu for a couple of hours and are an expert. I used
Vista for a couple of hours and I know nothing. Double standard, anyone?

The store where I played with it most certainly had it connected to the
Internet.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Mike wrote:
>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:%23Q97lbuyHHA.2224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But that's the point. Free is never as good as $. If it was it
>>>> wouldn't be free.
>>>
>>>
>>> So you pay for sex?
>>
>>
>> Why are you always bringing up sex? How old are you?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
> I'm not a virgin if that's what you're getting at. Are you afraid of sex
> or something?
>
> The reason I bring up sex is that it's something everyone can relate to
> except maybe you and Frank.
>
> Alias

Oh you stupid moron...everyone pays for sex in one way or another.
Idiot!
Frank

 

[Gary]

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:OP6a$puyHHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Gary wrote:
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:%23Boy1LuyHHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>> In article <eFx3m5syHHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
>>>> Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not a helpful suggestion because Linux isn't
>>>> Ready for the Desktop.
>>> False.
>>>
>>>> Useful.
>>> False
>>>> Easy to install/use.
>>> Easier than Windows, whatever flavor.
>>>
>>>> Compatible with existing software sold everywhere.
>>> Bull crap.
>>>> Compatible with what your friends/neighbors/coworkers are running.
>>> More bull crap.
>>>> Sooooooo, if you want to actually run real applications on your
>>>> computer, and not spend months testing endless "distros" to see which
>>>> one is "right for you", Windows is obviously a better choice than
>>>> Linux.
>>> Only for ill informed people like you.
>>>
>>>> Don't like Windows? Go away.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>> No.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> Does you nose get bigger when you lie like this.
>> Maybe you suffer from hypergraphia and its the only way you can be
>> satisfied.
>>
>>
>
> Prove that they are lies. You can't so you've just lied, not me.
>
> Alias

Simple the number of people who use Linux (all versions) on the desktop
prove its a piece of crap!