The newbie's dilemma!

BoaterDave · Aug 28, 2007

You, Sir, were 'presuming' my answer!

I made a suggestion only. I have never *tried* to issue commands, ever -
I've either issued commands or, if appropriate, obeyed them.

BD
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"BR" wrote in message
news:sJSdndf3gYpOe07bnZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@trueband.net...
> Do you own this server?
> Then don't try to issue commands.
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:eKhrCyP6HHA.1052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hello again, PCButts1 - you don't seem to be offering much help or advice.
> Best keep out of this thread.

>
> BD
>
> ************************************************************
> "BR" wrote in message
> news:EdKdnemjq60Az07bnZ2dnUVZ_uGknZ2d@trueband.net...
>> You are indeed a clueless dofuss.
>>
>> Research your telly.
>>
>> It broadcasts 24/7 to the queen.
>>
>>
>> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
>> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is
>> another matter, probably best left to the police.
>>
>> Any help will be much appreciated.

>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

BR · Aug 28, 2007

You are so lost even a high end GPS unit will not bring you back.

"BoaterDave" wrote in message
news:ezf8CoZ6HHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
I'll need some help then!

Any volunteers here?

BD

Dustin Cook · Aug 30, 2007

"Troll_Lady" wrote in
news:cJudnfB5hf4nDk_bnZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@bright.net:

> ah, he' new to playing with ip scanners.
> he's looking for 'vulnerable' computers so he can tell them about the
> 'bad guys'.
>
> to me, no computer at that ip is no response.
> is there a difference?

Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I get no
response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a firewall; If I
were malicious, I'd explore it further.

> i'm willing to help him technically, i'm not willing to gossip with
> him so i'm a bad guy.
> (in my case it should be a bad lady, but... )

I really don't know anything about the issues between you two. I'm neutral.

I'll offer advice/help when I can do so.

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BoaterDave · Aug 31, 2007

I understand that there are 'control' problems over on 'Wormhole' now -
annexcafe.sff.wormhole

I'm amazed that Li/Trolli/Troll_Lady has enough hours in the day to deal
with all her Administrative duties - all voluntary, un-paid, work so I was
once told. Hardly time for Real Life at all, I suspect! We are so lucky to
have such folk willing to protect our interests, don't you think?

BD

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"BoaterDave" wrote in message
news:uDrFrR75HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I must have missed your post Andrew. Sorry for my lack of response.
>
> What I would have said at the time was "and here am I thinking that you
> were/are the 'top dog' in your own U2U group". Seems like someone else is
> keeping you and your posters 'under control'. Now I wonder why that is?
>
>
> David
> ********************************************************
>
>
> "Andrew Taylor" wrote in message
> news:46c88c99$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> I don't Delete. It is being dealt with by someone more senior than me.
>
> --
> Andrew Taylor
> Toronto - Canada
> ~
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:%233Ojaec4HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator
> would remove this thread."
>
> Are you going to remove same, Andrew?
>
> BD
>

Troll_Lady · Aug 31, 2007

ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better suited
for public.security.homeusers.
i don't have that group on this server.
if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping?
thanks!
TL

snipped extra.

"Dustin Cook" wrote in message
news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...

Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I get no
response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a firewall; If I
were malicious, I'd explore it further.

I'll offer advice/help when I can do so.

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Troll_Lady · Aug 31, 2007

you understand nothing.
how you have enough hours in a day to follow me all over, i'll never know.

"BoaterDave" wrote in message

Troll_Lady · Aug 31, 2007

i don't see you there.
if you do sub that group, please ping me?
thanks,
TL

"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net...
ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better suited
for public.security.homeusers.
i don't have that group on this server.
if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping?
thanks!
TL

snipped extra.

"Dustin Cook" wrote in message
news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...

Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I get no
response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a firewall; If I
were malicious, I'd explore it further.

I'll offer advice/help when I can do so.

--
####################################################
Dustin Cook
Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com
Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
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Tom Willett · Aug 31, 2007

If you subscribe directly to the MS news servers, you'll see that group.

"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net...
| ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better suited
| for public.security.homeusers.
| i don't have that group on this server.
| if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping?
| thanks!
| TL
|
| snipped extra.
|
| "Dustin Cook" wrote in message
| news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
|
| Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I get no
| response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a firewall; If I
| were malicious, I'd explore it further.

|
| I'll offer advice/help when I can do so.

BoaterDave · Sep 1, 2007

Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING

FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite) flagged a
Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady.

The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)

Perhaps others with the PC skills to identify 'malware' could check this
item and report 'their' findings. Is it possible the McAfee found a false
positive?

Thanks in advance for any help with this.

Dave

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"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:O%23pXn%23x5HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> LMBO!
> Troll_Lady is NOT my nick on Annexcafe, as you well know.
>
> http://www.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/micros...uthor.html#3842
> Li
> a.. Re: 4 hours (10/31/03)
> a.. Re: 4 hours (10/30/03)
> a.. Re: 4 hours (10/30/03)
> a.. Re: 4 hours (10/30/03)
> a.. 4 hours (10/30/03)
> just a small example, BD.
> you want answers to questions that are easily found using correct
> keywords.
>
> pay attention to the dates you find for my posts here and other ms groups.
> so, who has followed who where?
>
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:uD6NALx5HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> It would seem that there is more than one of you then! I'm sorry if this
> is
> another case of mistaken identity.
>
> Instead of 'Googling' for the name only - I 'Googled' for "Troll_Lady
> +Annexcafe"
>
> Here is an example of what was found:
> http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?p=3101124
>
> Perhaps you will confirm that the Troll_Lady posting therein was NOT you
> either. TIA.
>
> BD
>
> *****************************************************************************
> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
> news:%23wAwl8w5HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> correction. i am NOT the Administrator at Annexcafe.
>>
>> i'm sure if you did a google search, you could find many posts from me on
>> various MS groups over the years. long before you discovered the 'net.
>>
>> i keep my dial up account for my email address. it's been the same
>> address
>> since 1998.
>>
>> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
>> news:eB9Ylwu5HHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Now why on earth would someone with DSL use a dial-up account to post
>> here?
>>
>> "Cloak and Dagger"? Good way of putting things.
>>
>> Troll_Lady - the Administrator at Annexcafe - has strayed far from home
>> to
>> monitor my posts here. I'd have thought 'she' (whoever the poster
>> actually
>> is in reality) would be far too busy to follow the activities of someone
>> like me. I'm just intrigued to know why I'm perceived as being a threat,
>> either here on MS or over in 'that other place'.
>>
>> Unless, of course, there really is something that they wish to remain
>> hidden.

>>
>> BD
>>
>> **************************************************************
>> "Dustin Cook" wrote in message
>> news:Xns999713321B497HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
>>> "BoaterDave" wrote in
>>> news:eMC9Lal5HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>>>
>>>> I think I'm going to need some help with this task.
>>>>
>>>> Any volunteers?
>>>
>>> One is a dialup? account, the other is a dsl line. Likely the same
>>> person...

>>>
>>> I don't know why you wish to play detective here. Is there something to
>>> gain from doing this?
>>>
>>> It seems cloak and dagger like in nature to me.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dustin Cook
>>> Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
>>> email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis
>>> web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
>>> Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Troll_Lady · Sep 1, 2007

hi, Tom.
i do sub that group on this server.
however, it doesn't show in any of my other Usenet accounts for some reason.
my security questions to Dustin would be off topic here.
thanks!
TL

"Tom Willett" wrote in message
news:e6YUA4%236HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
If you subscribe directly to the MS news servers, you'll see that group.

"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net...
| ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better suited
| for public.security.homeusers.
| i don't have that group on this server.
| if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping?
| thanks!
| TL
|
| snipped extra.
|
| "Dustin Cook" wrote in message
| news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
|
| Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I get no
| response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a firewall; If I
| were malicious, I'd explore it further.

|
| I'll offer advice/help when I can do so.

BoaterDave · Sep 1, 2007

Hi TL

Most of what's in this thread is way OT anyway, so I'm sure no-one will be
upset if you ask your questions of Dustin right here. What would you like to
know?

BD
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"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:uNSr3HH7HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> hi, Tom.
> i do sub that group on this server.
> however, it doesn't show in any of my other Usenet accounts for some
> reason.
> my security questions to Dustin would be off topic here.
> thanks!
> TL
>
>
> "Tom Willett" wrote in message
> news:e6YUA4%236HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> If you subscribe directly to the MS news servers, you'll see that group.
>
> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
> news:rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net...
> | ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better
> suited
> | for public.security.homeusers.
> | i don't have that group on this server.
> | if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping?
> | thanks!
> | TL
> |
> | snipped extra.
> |
> | "Dustin Cook" wrote in message
> | news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
> |
> | Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I get
> no
> | response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a firewall; If I
> | were malicious, I'd explore it further.

> |
> | I'll offer advice/help when I can do so.

> | --
> | ####################################################
> | Dustin Cook
> | Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
> | Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com
> | Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
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> | ####################################################
> |
> |
>
>
>

Sandy Mann · Sep 1, 2007

"BoaterDave" wrote in message
news:O1Yv8RH7HHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Most of what's in this thread is way OT anyway

I wonder whose fault that is?
--

Sandy

Dustin Cook · Sep 1, 2007

Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING

"BoaterDave" wrote in
news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

> FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite)
> flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady.
>
> The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)

I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible. Using
Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option.

> Perhaps others with the PC skills to identify 'malware' could check
> this item and report 'their' findings. Is it possible the McAfee found
> a false positive?

I have found that the site advisor is a bit paranoid and it's data isn't
always accurate. I do not believe troll lady is trying to infect you or
anyone else with that link.

Dave, shoot me an email, I'd like to offer some help in basic networking
and security; as I see alot of your issue really is lack of
understanding, and we can fix that without further name calling between
yourself and a few other posters. Ok?

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Dustin Cook · Sep 1, 2007

Ping Troll Lady

"Troll_Lady" wrote in
news:rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net:

> ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better
> suited for public.security.homeusers.
> i don't have that group on this server.
> if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping?
> thanks!
> TL
>
> snipped extra.
>
> "Dustin Cook" wrote in message
> news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
>
> Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I
> get no response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a
> firewall; If I were malicious, I'd explore it further.

>
> I'll offer advice/help when I can do so.

I have crossposted this to that newsgroup as you requested so they can
benefit from the information as well. Feel free to continue the
questions.

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Kerry Brown · Sep 1, 2007

Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING

"Dustin Cook" wrote in message
news:Xns999E84067715AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
> "BoaterDave" wrote in
> news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>
>> FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite)
>> flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady.
>>
>> The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)
>
> I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible. Using
> Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option.
>

As a blanket statement this is false. IE7 in Vista with UAC on is safer than
any other current browser in Vista. Even in Windows XP some people dispute
that Firefox is safer than IE7. Much depends on the state of updates for
both browser's, the OS, and any browser add-ons.

A better statement would be to not blindly click on any links in any
newsgroups. Here's a fairly safe method to open links posted in a newsgroup.
I think this method would satisfy even Boaterdave's paranoia. Read
newsgroups in plain text so it's very hard to obfuscate a link. Check out
the domain in the link with a Google search but don't click on any links in
the search results. Start a virtual machine that runs linux or better yet
boot up your linux computer that is not connected to your network and uses a
dial up connection. Open an up to date version of Opera with no add-ons
installed. Type the text of the link from the newsgroup post into this
browser. Pray to whatever Gods you believe in that today is your lucky day.
Press the Enter key. Immediately upon finishing reading the web page shut
down the computer or vm and wipe it out in case it got infected or the web
site may have logged your IP address and passed it on to someone who would
use it for malicious purposes.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca

BoaterDave · Sep 1, 2007

Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING

Hi Kerry - just HOW did you *do* that?

I'd just love to know how it's done!

BD
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"Kerry Brown" wrote in message
news:2B0B56C7-2B8A-4D29-A519-AAC5FEC164D9@microsoft.com...
> "Dustin Cook" wrote in message
> news:Xns999E84067715AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
>> "BoaterDave" wrote in
>> news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite)
>>> flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady.
>>>
>>> The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)
>>
>> I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible. Using
>> Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option.
>>
>
>
> As a blanket statement this is false. IE7 in Vista with UAC on is safer
> than any other current browser in Vista. Even in Windows XP some people
> dispute that Firefox is safer than IE7. Much depends on the state of
> updates for both browser's, the OS, and any browser add-ons.
>
> A better statement would be to not blindly click on any links in any
> newsgroups. Here's a fairly safe method to open links posted in a
> newsgroup. I think this method would satisfy even Boaterdave's paranoia.
> Read newsgroups in plain text so it's very hard to obfuscate a link. Check
> out the domain in the link with a Google search but don't click on any
> links in the search results. Start a virtual machine that runs linux or
> better yet boot up your linux computer that is not connected to your
> network and uses a dial up connection. Open an up to date version of Opera
> with no add-ons installed. Type the text of the link from the newsgroup
> post into this browser. Pray to whatever Gods you believe in that today is
> your lucky day. Press the Enter key. Immediately upon finishing reading
> the web page shut down the computer or vm and wipe it out in case it got
> infected or the web site may have logged your IP address and passed it on
> to someone who would use it for malicious purposes.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>

BoaterDave · Sep 1, 2007

Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING

OK, Dustin. I really will appreciate some help. TIA

David

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"Dustin Cook" wrote in message
news:Xns999E84067715AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
> "BoaterDave" wrote in
> news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>
>> FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite)
>> flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady.
>>
>> The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)
>
> I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible. Using
> Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option.
>
>> Perhaps others with the PC skills to identify 'malware' could check
>> this item and report 'their' findings. Is it possible the McAfee found
>> a false positive?
>
> I have found that the site advisor is a bit paranoid and it's data isn't
> always accurate. I do not believe troll lady is trying to infect you or
> anyone else with that link.
>
> Dave, shoot me an email, I'd like to offer some help in basic networking
> and security; as I see alot of your issue really is lack of
> understanding, and we can fix that without further name calling between
> yourself and a few other posters. Ok?
>
>
>
> --
> ####################################################
> Dustin Cook
> Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
> Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com
> Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
> Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml
> ####################################################

Peter Foldes · Sep 1, 2007

Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING

very big

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Kerry Brown" wrote in message news:2B0B56C7-2B8A-4D29-A519-AAC5FEC164D9@microsoft.com...
> "Dustin Cook" wrote in message
> news:Xns999E84067715AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
>> "BoaterDave" wrote in
>> news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite)
>>> flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady.
>>>
>>> The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)
>>
>> I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible. Using
>> Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option.
>>
>
>
> As a blanket statement this is false. IE7 in Vista with UAC on is safer than
> any other current browser in Vista. Even in Windows XP some people dispute
> that Firefox is safer than IE7. Much depends on the state of updates for
> both browser's, the OS, and any browser add-ons.
>
> A better statement would be to not blindly click on any links in any
> newsgroups. Here's a fairly safe method to open links posted in a newsgroup.
> I think this method would satisfy even Boaterdave's paranoia. Read
> newsgroups in plain text so it's very hard to obfuscate a link. Check out
> the domain in the link with a Google search but don't click on any links in
> the search results. Start a virtual machine that runs linux or better yet
> boot up your linux computer that is not connected to your network and uses a
> dial up connection. Open an up to date version of Opera with no add-ons
> installed. Type the text of the link from the newsgroup post into this
> browser. Pray to whatever Gods you believe in that today is your lucky day.
> Press the Enter key. Immediately upon finishing reading the web page shut
> down the computer or vm and wipe it out in case it got infected or the web
> site may have logged your IP address and passed it on to someone who would
> use it for malicious purposes.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>

Dustin Cook · Sep 2, 2007

Re: The newbie's dilemma! - WARNING

"Kerry Brown" wrote in
news:2B0B56C7-2B8A-4D29-A519-AAC5FEC164D9@microsoft.com:

> "Dustin Cook" wrote in message
> news:Xns999E84067715AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
>> "BoaterDave" wrote in
>> news:e$QflWG7HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> FYI - McAfee 'Site Adviser' (part of the McAfee Security Suite)
>>> flagged a Warning on the link provided here by Troll_Lady.
>>>
>>> The link was copied and pasted into IE7 (not clicked upon!)
>>
>> I'd strongly recommend discontinuing use of IE whenever possible.
>> Using Opera or firefox is certainly a safer option.
>>
>
>
> As a blanket statement this is false. IE7 in Vista with UAC on is

My apologies for making the statement as generic as I did.

--
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Troll_Lady · Sep 2, 2007

Re: Ping Troll Lady

thanks!

"Dustin Cook" wrote in message
news:Xns999E853BD1C6FHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
> "Troll_Lady" wrote in
> news:rLudndgZ9ZxOoUXbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@bright.net:
>
>> ok. i have some questions i'd like to ask but they would be better
>> suited for public.security.homeusers.
>> i don't have that group on this server.
>> if i see that you also sub that group, i'll post a ping?
>> thanks!
>> TL
>>
>> snipped extra.
>>
>> "Dustin Cook" wrote in message
>> news:Xns999CB36A7766EHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
>>
>> Well, if I get destination host unreachable; I know it's dead, if I
>> get no response instead, I know a computer is present, behind a
>> firewall; If I were malicious, I'd explore it further.

>>
>> I'll offer advice/help when I can do so.

>
> I have crossposted this to that newsgroup as you requested so they can
> benefit from the information as well. Feel free to continue the
> questions.
>
hi, Dustin,
thanks!
my tests at grc shields up have always been 'stealth'. i have assumed this
was enough. i have a dsl modem connected to a router, plus a software
firewall. (not much incoming on sw firewall, unless i'm using my dial up,
but all gets blocked when doing so. i use it to block my games from going
out).
from what i understand you to say above, the 'no response' is NOT good
enough? if so, how\what do i configure for 'host unreachable' ? i'm not
running a server. if there is something further i need to do to protect
myself, i want to know about it.

xphome sp2, almost fully patched (last updates caused a system restore to be
needed and i've not been back since, so, i'm a month behind)
router (hopefully strong pw)
spyware blaster
ad aware
avg free
za firewall
crap cleaner
custom security settings
safe hex
i've used all grc tools to turn things off as recommended.
windows pop up stopper works pretty good so i've not installed any 3rd
party.
i use an old 95\98 power toy that adds to my 'tools' in ie, add site to
trusted, add to restricted. i have 2 sites in trusted, allow everything for
those 2. all other sites i visit fall under custom security unless they
really irritate me (tripod) then i just 'tools' add to restricted sites. i
don't use the phishing filter. (i don't buy online, i go to the bank in
person, etc....)

so, other than the windows updates i'm behind on, what else do i need to do
to protect my computer?

thanks,
TL

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