The newbie's dilemma!

[Dustin Cook]

"BoaterDave" wrote in
news:OK#7Cx95HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> I'm obviously dumb about such things

Over here in the UK I pay a
> monthly fee to an ISP for Broadband connection to the Internet. All
> time 'on line' - 24/7 - is 'free'. Whilst I recognise that I could
> also use a dial-up facility with any ISP, such time on line with them
> (via a telphone line) will cost real 'extra' money, often on a 'per
> minute' basis. As someone with limited income, I can identify no
> reason at all for incurring extra costs.

In the usa, I don't have a per minute charge on the dialup lines. I
wouldn't be able to justify the cost of keeping them if I did.

As for the other lines, much of it has to do with what I do for a living.
Bandwidth is needed if your into computer repair.

>>> "Cloak and Dagger"? Good way of putting things.
>>
>> It just seems to me that you have misunderstood a few things, and
>> seem to think someone is out to get you or something. I don't know,
>> it's just what I'm beginning to think.
>
> 'Tis the other way round, Dustin. I'm trying to identify the bad guys!
>

Ahh.. Okay. I haven't found any bad guys so far. so I'll continue to lurk
then.

> She has control over Annexcafe newsgroups and has the ability to
> remove any posts which are deemed 'unacceptable' - especially those

Again, that's not information I would have access too. I don't know
anything about annexcafe aside from the fact it appears to be some kind
of social networking site?

> and am abiding by that request. Whilst others may think otherwise, I'm
> convinced that she is only here in this thread because I'm here!

I don't know anything about annexxcafe policys on users. I'm unfamiliar
with it aside from little things I've read here.

>> Btw, It's not a big deal to myself, as I'll fix your post as I reply,
>> but top-posting is often frowned upon because it interrupts the
>> logical flow of the conversation.
>
> I do understand that, but feel it stems from habits in the past.When I
> first ventured into a newsgroup (here on the MS boards) I'm sure I
> missed some answers to my queries as I was totally unaware of 'bottom
> posting'. I'm sure most folk can cope with either method, especially
> if they follow a thread from the outset and get a 'feeling' for the
> subject matter. Thanks for your advice though.

coping isn't the issue. I was just trying to keep you out of the flamer
fire for top posting.

> David
>
> PS Lots of advertising for your programme in this thread, eh, Dustin?

Apparently so. Not exactly intentional on my part, however. It's just a
signature to me. And the program is freeware. I don't expect to get rich
from voluntary donations. *grin*

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[Dustin Cook]

"Troll_Lady" wrote in
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> aw, just trying to help him out a little with his misconceptions.

I really think the majority of it comes simply from not understanding how
things work. Instead of critizing, perhaps a bit of education would help?

> he tried to scan my dsl ip, didn't succeed, so i gave him another,
> easier one to try.

*shrug*. I made no effort to scan you.

I just read the headers was all.
My post was really tongue in cheek.

> i could give him a few more but i'm sure he would get the same
> results. no computer at that ip.

No computer, or no response?

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[BoaterDave]

Thank you for all your comments, Dustin. (I'll cope with any flames! )

Most folk here ignore me anyay I suspect!

David

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"Dustin Cook" wrote in message
news:Xns99991C41498AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
> "BoaterDave" wrote in
> news:OK#7Cx95HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
>
>> I'm obviously dumb about such things

Over here in the UK I pay a
>> monthly fee to an ISP for Broadband connection to the Internet. All
>> time 'on line' - 24/7 - is 'free'. Whilst I recognise that I could
>> also use a dial-up facility with any ISP, such time on line with them
>> (via a telphone line) will cost real 'extra' money, often on a 'per
>> minute' basis. As someone with limited income, I can identify no
>> reason at all for incurring extra costs.
>
> In the usa, I don't have a per minute charge on the dialup lines. I
> wouldn't be able to justify the cost of keeping them if I did.

>
> As for the other lines, much of it has to do with what I do for a living.
> Bandwidth is needed if your into computer repair.

>
>>>> "Cloak and Dagger"? Good way of putting things.
>>>
>>> It just seems to me that you have misunderstood a few things, and
>>> seem to think someone is out to get you or something. I don't know,
>>> it's just what I'm beginning to think.
>>
>> 'Tis the other way round, Dustin. I'm trying to identify the bad guys!
>>

>
> Ahh.. Okay. I haven't found any bad guys so far. so I'll continue to lurk
> then.

>
>> She has control over Annexcafe newsgroups and has the ability to
>> remove any posts which are deemed 'unacceptable' - especially those
>
> Again, that's not information I would have access too. I don't know
> anything about annexcafe aside from the fact it appears to be some kind
> of social networking site?
>
>> and am abiding by that request. Whilst others may think otherwise, I'm
>> convinced that she is only here in this thread because I'm here!
>
> I don't know anything about annexxcafe policys on users. I'm unfamiliar
> with it aside from little things I've read here.
>
>>> Btw, It's not a big deal to myself, as I'll fix your post as I reply,
>>> but top-posting is often frowned upon because it interrupts the
>>> logical flow of the conversation.
>>
>> I do understand that, but feel it stems from habits in the past.When I
>> first ventured into a newsgroup (here on the MS boards) I'm sure I
>> missed some answers to my queries as I was totally unaware of 'bottom
>> posting'. I'm sure most folk can cope with either method, especially
>> if they follow a thread from the outset and get a 'feeling' for the
>> subject matter. Thanks for your advice though.

>
> coping isn't the issue. I was just trying to keep you out of the flamer
> fire for top posting.

>
>
>> David
>>
>> PS Lots of advertising for your programme in this thread, eh, Dustin?
>
> Apparently so. Not exactly intentional on my part, however. It's just a
> signature to me. And the program is freeware. I don't expect to get rich
> from voluntary donations. *grin*
>
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> Email: bughunter.dustin@gmail.com
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[Troll_Lady]

ah, he' new to playing with ip scanners.
he's looking for 'vulnerable' computers so he can tell them about the 'bad
guys'.

to me, no computer at that ip is no response.
is there a difference?

i'm willing to help him technically, i'm not willing to gossip with him so
i'm a bad guy.
(in my case it should be a bad lady, but... )


"Dustin Cook" wrote in message
news:Xns99991C9459FA5HHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
"Troll_Lady" wrote in
news:M4adnSamyaHcSVLbnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@bright.net:

> aw, just trying to help him out a little with his misconceptions.

I really think the majority of it comes simply from not understanding how
things work. Instead of critizing, perhaps a bit of education would help?

> he tried to scan my dsl ip, didn't succeed, so i gave him another,
> easier one to try.

*shrug*. I made no effort to scan you.

I just read the headers was all.
My post was really tongue in cheek.

> i could give him a few more but i'm sure he would get the same
> results. no computer at that ip.

No computer, or no response?

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[Troll_Lady]

you want to gossip. your queries are personal and don't belong in
newsgroups.
why don't you email the people you want information from and stop asking me
for information about them? i do answer your queries about me and i correct
your assumptions when they're wrong.

your questions would be like me asking you 'where does wife shop? 'where do
you do your banking?' 'what do you do in your free time and where?' simple
queries, but ones i would hope you would refuse to answer!

it's your insistence that folks give you personal details that raises their
hackles. it's not safe on the 'net, giving you personal information gives it
to millions. why do you think people would want to do that? it doesn't make
them 'bad guys' just because they won't answer such questions.


"BoaterDave" wrote in message
news:ODLqAQD6HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
And you wonder why I'm suspicious of your motives!

I presume you meant to post noyb (none of your business)

Why can you not just give an honest and straight-forward answer to simple
queries? It would save a great deal of effort on everyone's part.

BD

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"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:6cmdnRtvuOh9ZkzbnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@bright.net...
> nyob.
> TL
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:ujkUSk%235HHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Ooops! Sorry, Li.
>
> So who, now ......... EXACTLY .......... has the power to remove posts in
> the UK U2U group?
>
> Is Sysop Ann (very straight and fair in my opinion) still 'in charge' -
> with
> power to delete posts? If not, *why* not?
>
> Does Andrew Taylor, the group Moderator, now have power to delete posts?
> If
> not, *why* not? (It's his group after all ........ isn't it?)
>
> There was very little traffic on the UK group before my arrival - and
> there
> has been very little since. No-one needed to view or respond to any post I
> made. Why did so many 'supporters' suddenly appear from the US site to try
> to silence me in my quest for the truth? Any idea?
>
> Is Mr Gooden concerned about the views of a kook like me? If so, *why* do
> you think that might be? He's nothing to hide ......... has he?
>
> Failure to answer such simple queries is one of the reasons that you now
> find me posting here. It would seem that K.Dee's request to Microsoft to
> have me banned from the Internet has not (yet) been successful.
> Frustrating
> for her, I suspect!

>
> HTH
>
> David
>
>
> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
> news:%23%233LEJ%235HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> another correction, BD.
>> i do not have control over Annexcafe newsgroups to remove any posts
>> except
>> at board ownersmoderators requests. boards are completely autonomous.
>>
>> now, if you want to mention i have control to remove any posts from my
>> own
>> boards, i won't dispute that.
>
>
>
>

 

[Troll_Lady]

www.annexcafe.com
newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.

www.dogagent.com
newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.

both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in case
one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.

this is suspicious to BD.

he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be staff
for both servers.

he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on
line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.

TL

"Dustin Cook" wrote in message
news:Xns99991C41498AHHI2948AJD832@69.28.186.121...
"BoaterDave" wrote in
news:OK#7Cx95HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> I'm obviously dumb about such things

Over here in the UK I pay a
> monthly fee to an ISP for Broadband connection to the Internet. All
> time 'on line' - 24/7 - is 'free'. Whilst I recognise that I could
> also use a dial-up facility with any ISP, such time on line with them
> (via a telphone line) will cost real 'extra' money, often on a 'per
> minute' basis. As someone with limited income, I can identify no
> reason at all for incurring extra costs.

In the usa, I don't have a per minute charge on the dialup lines. I
wouldn't be able to justify the cost of keeping them if I did.

As for the other lines, much of it has to do with what I do for a living.
Bandwidth is needed if your into computer repair.

>>> "Cloak and Dagger"? Good way of putting things.
>>
>> It just seems to me that you have misunderstood a few things, and
>> seem to think someone is out to get you or something. I don't know,
>> it's just what I'm beginning to think.
>
> 'Tis the other way round, Dustin. I'm trying to identify the bad guys!
>

Ahh.. Okay. I haven't found any bad guys so far. so I'll continue to lurk
then.

> She has control over Annexcafe newsgroups and has the ability to
> remove any posts which are deemed 'unacceptable' - especially those

Again, that's not information I would have access too. I don't know
anything about annexcafe aside from the fact it appears to be some kind
of social networking site?

> and am abiding by that request. Whilst others may think otherwise, I'm
> convinced that she is only here in this thread because I'm here!

I don't know anything about annexxcafe policys on users. I'm unfamiliar
with it aside from little things I've read here.

>> Btw, It's not a big deal to myself, as I'll fix your post as I reply,
>> but top-posting is often frowned upon because it interrupts the
>> logical flow of the conversation.
>
> I do understand that, but feel it stems from habits in the past.When I
> first ventured into a newsgroup (here on the MS boards) I'm sure I
> missed some answers to my queries as I was totally unaware of 'bottom
> posting'. I'm sure most folk can cope with either method, especially
> if they follow a thread from the outset and get a 'feeling' for the
> subject matter. Thanks for your advice though.

coping isn't the issue. I was just trying to keep you out of the flamer
fire for top posting.

> David
>
> PS Lots of advertising for your programme in this thread, eh, Dustin?

Apparently so. Not exactly intentional on my part, however. It's just a
signature to me. And the program is freeware. I don't expect to get rich
from voluntary donations. *grin*

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[BoaterDave]

"he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.
'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.

"and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did it
and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!

Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware' and
try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought that
I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and Spybot
amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx. Insufficient
protection as it turned out!

Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and you'll
find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less than
two years ago - how naive was that! ).

A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of curiosity. I
asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful
people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A person
or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I was
connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of
occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is
another matter, probably best left to the police.

Any help will be much appreciated.

David

************************************************************************************

"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...
> www.annexcafe.com
> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.
>
> www.dogagent.com
> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.
>
> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in
> case
> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.
>
> this is suspicious to BD.
>
> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be
> staff
> for both servers.
>
> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on
> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.
>
> TL

 

[Troll_Lady]

when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected quite
often.
i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get disconnected
trying to open a web page.
reconnect, open another page, disconnected again.

then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel you've
been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall)

you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a coincidence,
not a malicious attack.

TL


"BoaterDave" wrote in message
news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
"he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.
'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.

"and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did it
and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!

Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware' and
try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought that
I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and Spybot
amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx. Insufficient
protection as it turned out!

Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and you'll
find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less than
two years ago - how naive was that! ).

A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of curiosity. I
asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful
people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A person
or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I was
connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of
occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is
another matter, probably best left to the police.

Any help will be much appreciated.

David

************************************************************************************

"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...
> www.annexcafe.com
> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.
>
> www.dogagent.com
> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.
>
> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in
> case
> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.
>
> this is suspicious to BD.
>
> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be
> staff
> for both servers.
>
> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on
> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.
>
> TL

 

[BoaterDave]

You are either *pretending* to be stupid Li, or you really are - which is
it?

I'd like to apologise for my spelling of 'great' in my original post. Sorry
about that.

BD

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"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:uW1fMON6HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected quite
> often.
> i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get
> disconnected
> trying to open a web page.
> reconnect, open another page, disconnected again.
>
> then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel you've
> been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall)
>
> you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a coincidence,
> not a malicious attack.
>
> TL
>
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.
> 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.
>
> "and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did
> it
> and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!
>
> Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware'
> and
> try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought
> that
> I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and Spybot
> amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx. Insufficient
> protection as it turned out!
>
> Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and you'll
> find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less than
> two years ago - how naive was that! ).
>
> A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of curiosity.
> I
> asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful
> people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A
> person
> or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I was
> connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of
> occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is
> another matter, probably best left to the police.
>
> Any help will be much appreciated.

>
> David
>
> ************************************************************************************
>
> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
> news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...
>> www.annexcafe.com
>> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.
>>
>> www.dogagent.com
>> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.
>>
>> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in
>> case
>> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.
>>
>> this is suspicious to BD.
>>
>> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be
>> staff
>> for both servers.
>>
>> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on
>> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.
>>
>> TL
>
>
>
>

 

[Troll_Lady]

ok.
so much for your comment 'any help would be appreciated'

why would someone disconnect you if they wanted access to your computer?
a computer needs to be connected to be attacked.
(unless you insert a disc off line that is infected.)

so, to be safe, just disconnect your computer and you'll be fine.


"BoaterDave" wrote in message
news:eT9MfqN6HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
You are either *pretending* to be stupid Li, or you really are - which is
it?

I'd like to apologise for my spelling of 'great' in my original post. Sorry
about that.

BD

****************************************************************

"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:uW1fMON6HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected quite
> often.
> i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get
> disconnected
> trying to open a web page.
> reconnect, open another page, disconnected again.
>
> then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel you've
> been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall)
>
> you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a coincidence,
> not a malicious attack.
>
> TL
>
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.
> 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.
>
> "and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did
> it
> and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!
>
> Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware'
> and
> try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought
> that
> I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and Spybot
> amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx. Insufficient
> protection as it turned out!
>
> Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and you'll
> find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less than
> two years ago - how naive was that! ).
>
> A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of curiosity.
> I
> asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful
> people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A
> person
> or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I was
> connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of
> occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is
> another matter, probably best left to the police.
>
> Any help will be much appreciated.

>
> David
>
> ************************************************************************************
>
> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
> news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...
>> www.annexcafe.com
>> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.
>>
>> www.dogagent.com
>> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.
>>
>> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in
>> case
>> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.
>>
>> this is suspicious to BD.
>>
>> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be
>> staff
>> for both servers.
>>
>> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on
>> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.
>>
>> TL
>
>
>
>

 

[BoaterDave]

Yet again, Li, you failed to answer my simple question.

I therefore guess you aren't *pretending* at all.

BD

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"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:O0xJHfO6HHA.1052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> ok.
> so much for your comment 'any help would be appreciated'
>
> why would someone disconnect you if they wanted access to your computer?
> a computer needs to be connected to be attacked.
> (unless you insert a disc off line that is infected.)
>
> so, to be safe, just disconnect your computer and you'll be fine.
>
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:eT9MfqN6HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You are either *pretending* to be stupid Li, or you really are - which is
> it?

>
> I'd like to apologise for my spelling of 'great' in my original post.
> Sorry
> about that.
>
> BD
>
> ****************************************************************
>
> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
> news:uW1fMON6HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected
>> quite
>> often.
>> i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get
>> disconnected
>> trying to open a web page.
>> reconnect, open another page, disconnected again.
>>
>> then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel
>> you've
>> been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall)
>>
>> you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a coincidence,
>> not a malicious attack.
>>
>> TL
>>
>>
>> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
>> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.
>> 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.
>>
>> "and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did
>> it
>> and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!
>>
>> Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware'
>> and
>> try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought
>> that
>> I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and Spybot
>> amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx.
>> Insufficient
>> protection as it turned out!
>>
>> Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and you'll
>> find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less than
>> two years ago - how naive was that! ).
>>
>> A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of curiosity.
>> I
>> asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful
>> people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A
>> person
>> or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I was
>> connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of
>> occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is
>> another matter, probably best left to the police.
>>
>> Any help will be much appreciated.

>>
>> David
>>
>> ************************************************************************************
>>
>> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
>> news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...
>>> www.annexcafe.com
>>> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.
>>>
>>> www.dogagent.com
>>> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.
>>>
>>> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in
>>> case
>>> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.
>>>
>>> this is suspicious to BD.
>>>
>>> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be
>>> staff
>>> for both servers.
>>>
>>> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on
>>> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.
>>>
>>> TL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

[BR]

You are indeed a clueless dofuss.

Research your telly.

It broadcasts 24/7 to the queen.


"BoaterDave" wrote in message
news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is
another matter, probably best left to the police.

Any help will be much appreciated.

David

 

[BoaterDave]

Hello again, PCButts1 - you don't seem to be offering much help or advice.
Best keep out of this thread.

BD

************************************************************
"BR" wrote in message
news:EdKdnemjq60Az07bnZ2dnUVZ_uGknZ2d@trueband.net...
> You are indeed a clueless dofuss.
>
> Research your telly.
>
> It broadcasts 24/7 to the queen.
>
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is
> another matter, probably best left to the police.
>
> Any help will be much appreciated.

>
> David
>
>
>

 

[Troll_Lady]

you were given a few simple answers as to why your dial up modem would
disconnect.
there are many more.

a malicious attack on your computer is not one of them.
again, anyone wanting to harm your computer and\or steal your identity would
want you connected.

whine to google
"why does my dial up modem disconnect"


"BoaterDave" wrote in message
news:e3jqNdP6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Yet again, Li, you failed to answer my simple question.

I therefore guess you aren't *pretending* at all.

BD

*****************************
"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:O0xJHfO6HHA.1052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> ok.
> so much for your comment 'any help would be appreciated'
>
> why would someone disconnect you if they wanted access to your computer?
> a computer needs to be connected to be attacked.
> (unless you insert a disc off line that is infected.)
>
> so, to be safe, just disconnect your computer and you'll be fine.
>
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:eT9MfqN6HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You are either *pretending* to be stupid Li, or you really are - which is
> it?

>
> I'd like to apologise for my spelling of 'great' in my original post.
> Sorry
> about that.
>
> BD
>
> ****************************************************************
>
> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
> news:uW1fMON6HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected
>> quite
>> often.
>> i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get
>> disconnected
>> trying to open a web page.
>> reconnect, open another page, disconnected again.
>>
>> then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel
>> you've
>> been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall)
>>
>> you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a coincidence,
>> not a malicious attack.
>>
>> TL
>>
>>
>> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
>> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.
>> 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.
>>
>> "and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did
>> it
>> and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!
>>
>> Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware'
>> and
>> try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought
>> that
>> I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and Spybot
>> amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx.
>> Insufficient
>> protection as it turned out!
>>
>> Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and you'll
>> find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less than
>> two years ago - how naive was that! ).
>>
>> A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of curiosity.
>> I
>> asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful
>> people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A
>> person
>> or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I was
>> connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of
>> occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is
>> another matter, probably best left to the police.
>>
>> Any help will be much appreciated.

>>
>> David
>>
>> ************************************************************************************
>>
>> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
>> news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...
>>> www.annexcafe.com
>>> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.
>>>
>>> www.dogagent.com
>>> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.
>>>
>>> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in
>>> case
>>> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.
>>>
>>> this is suspicious to BD.
>>>
>>> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be
>>> staff
>>> for both servers.
>>>
>>> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience on
>>> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.
>>>
>>> TL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

[BoaterDave]

I don't mind you constantly replying with useless comments, Li.

At no time did I mention a 'dial-up' modem. I was connected to *Broadband*
via a modem supplied by my ISP (at that time Wanadoo, now Orange) - I *was*
connected and, as you mentioned (correctly) succeptible to attack.

My PC *was* attacked.

Perhaps you know why? ............... but then I'm quite sure you wouldn't
tell others here!

BD

*******************************************************************

"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:-qqdndY1_MQjUE7bnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@bright.net...
> you were given a few simple answers as to why your dial up modem would
> disconnect.
> there are many more.
>
> a malicious attack on your computer is not one of them.
> again, anyone wanting to harm your computer andor steal your identity
> would
> want you connected.
>
> whine to google
> "why does my dial up modem disconnect"
>
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:e3jqNdP6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Yet again, Li, you failed to answer my simple question.
>
> I therefore guess you aren't *pretending* at all.
>
> BD
>
> *****************************
> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
> news:O0xJHfO6HHA.1052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> ok.
>> so much for your comment 'any help would be appreciated'
>>
>> why would someone disconnect you if they wanted access to your computer?
>> a computer needs to be connected to be attacked.
>> (unless you insert a disc off line that is infected.)
>>
>> so, to be safe, just disconnect your computer and you'll be fine.
>>
>>
>> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
>> news:eT9MfqN6HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> You are either *pretending* to be stupid Li, or you really are - which is
>> it?

>>
>> I'd like to apologise for my spelling of 'great' in my original post.
>> Sorry
>> about that.
>>
>> BD
>>
>> ****************************************************************
>>
>> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
>> news:uW1fMON6HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected
>>> quite
>>> often.
>>> i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get
>>> disconnected
>>> trying to open a web page.
>>> reconnect, open another page, disconnected again.
>>>
>>> then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel
>>> you've
>>> been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall)
>>>
>>> you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a
>>> coincidence,
>>> not a malicious attack.
>>>
>>> TL
>>>
>>>
>>> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
>>> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> "he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.
>>> 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.
>>>
>>> "and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did
>>> it
>>> and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!
>>>
>>> Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware'
>>> and
>>> try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought
>>> that
>>> I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and
>>> Spybot
>>> amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx.
>>> Insufficient
>>> protection as it turned out!
>>>
>>> Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and
>>> you'll
>>> find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less
>>> than
>>> two years ago - how naive was that! ).
>>>
>>> A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of
>>> curiosity.
>>> I
>>> asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful
>>> people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A
>>> person
>>> or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I
>>> was
>>> connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of
>>> occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is
>>> another matter, probably best left to the police.
>>>
>>> Any help will be much appreciated.

>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
>>> news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...
>>>> www.annexcafe.com
>>>> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.
>>>>
>>>> www.dogagent.com
>>>> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.
>>>>
>>>> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in
>>>> case
>>>> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.
>>>>
>>>> this is suspicious to BD.
>>>>
>>>> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be
>>>> staff
>>>> for both servers.
>>>>
>>>> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience
>>>> on
>>>> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.
>>>>
>>>> TL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

[BR]

Do you own this server?
Then don't try to issue commands.

"BoaterDave" wrote in message
news:eKhrCyP6HHA.1052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Hello again, PCButts1 - you don't seem to be offering much help or advice.
Best keep out of this thread.

BD

************************************************************
"BR" wrote in message
news:EdKdnemjq60Az07bnZ2dnUVZ_uGknZ2d@trueband.net...
> You are indeed a clueless dofuss.
>
> Research your telly.
>
> It broadcasts 24/7 to the queen.
>
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is
> another matter, probably best left to the police.
>
> Any help will be much appreciated.

>
> David
>
>
>

 

[Troll_Lady]

why? of course i'll answer and have, repeatedly.

maybe you visited an infected web site, or you clicked 'click this to
protect your pc!' or you opened an attachment from an unknown or even a
known person and infected yourself. maybe you didn't keep your computer up
to date with all patches. maybe you got 'caught' the day before your av
updated for whatever it was YOU picked up.

so, your question of why goes right back to you, the one using your
computer.

if you want to know how\why it could be done by another person, this isn't
the group for that. does your isp carry any of the alt.hackers.* groups? if
so, they might tell you how\why it was done.


"BoaterDave" wrote in message
news:%23OuBvmU6HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
I don't mind you constantly replying with useless comments, Li.

At no time did I mention a 'dial-up' modem. I was connected to *Broadband*
via a modem supplied by my ISP (at that time Wanadoo, now Orange) - I *was*
connected and, as you mentioned (correctly) succeptible to attack.

My PC *was* attacked.

Perhaps you know why? ............... but then I'm quite sure you wouldn't
tell others here!

BD

*******************************************************************

"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:-qqdndY1_MQjUE7bnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@bright.net...
> you were given a few simple answers as to why your dial up modem would
> disconnect.
> there are many more.
>
> a malicious attack on your computer is not one of them.
> again, anyone wanting to harm your computer andor steal your identity
> would
> want you connected.
>
> whine to google
> "why does my dial up modem disconnect"
>
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:e3jqNdP6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Yet again, Li, you failed to answer my simple question.
>
> I therefore guess you aren't *pretending* at all.
>
> BD
>
> *****************************
> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
> news:O0xJHfO6HHA.1052@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> ok.
>> so much for your comment 'any help would be appreciated'
>>
>> why would someone disconnect you if they wanted access to your computer?
>> a computer needs to be connected to be attacked.
>> (unless you insert a disc off line that is infected.)
>>
>> so, to be safe, just disconnect your computer and you'll be fine.
>>
>>
>> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
>> news:eT9MfqN6HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> You are either *pretending* to be stupid Li, or you really are - which is
>> it?

>>
>> I'd like to apologise for my spelling of 'great' in my original post.
>> Sorry
>> about that.
>>
>> BD
>>
>> ****************************************************************
>>
>> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
>> news:uW1fMON6HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> when i was strictly dial up, using a modem, i would get disconnected
>>> quite
>>> often.
>>> i soon learned to keep temp files cleaned, because i would get
>>> disconnected
>>> trying to open a web page.
>>> reconnect, open another page, disconnected again.
>>>
>>> then, of course, isp's will disconnect you at any time if they feel
>>> you've
>>> been 'inactive' or don't reply to their ping. (firewall)
>>>
>>> you being disconnected while reading a news group would be a
>>> coincidence,
>>> not a malicious attack.
>>>
>>> TL
>>>
>>>
>>> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
>>> news:ey6GRRK6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> "he had his identity stolen" ............ that is TRUE.
>>> 'Trojan.Java.ByteVer.R' was identified as the culprit.
>>>
>>> "and rather than blame his own inexperience on line, he insists 'we' did
>>> it
>>> and he's going to prove it." ........... that is NOT true!
>>>
>>> Recognising my inexperience, I set out to determine more about 'malware'
>>> and
>>> try to discover just *how* I may have got a Trojan on my PC. I thought
>>> that
>>> I had been careful, using Zone Alarm, AVG anti-virus, Ad-Aware and
>>> Spybot
>>> amongst others. Oh yes, and a new facility then called Prevx.
>>> Insufficient
>>> protection as it turned out!
>>>
>>> Few stones have been left unturned (just google for BoaterDave and
>>> you'll
>>> find many hundreds of my posts - I didn't ever think to do that less
>>> than
>>> two years ago - how naive was that! ).
>>>
>>> A suspicious email invited me to A/C U2U. I went simply out of
>>> curiosity.
>>> I
>>> asked many questions. Although I learnt a grate deal from many helpful
>>> people, some questions drew a blank and some folk became irritated. A
>>> person
>>> or persons unknown was later able, somehow, to disable my PC whilst I
>>> was
>>> connected to U2U through a modem and OE6. Not once, but on a number of
>>> occasions. My quest is to determine just *how* it was done. By whom is
>>> another matter, probably best left to the police.
>>>
>>> Any help will be much appreciated.

>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
>>> news:utadnaBwYJjPC0_bnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bright.net...
>>>> www.annexcafe.com
>>>> newsgroups & chat. private server. registration needed.
>>>>
>>>> www.dogagent.com
>>>> newsgroups on a private server, open to the public.
>>>>
>>>> both servers friendly to each other, both carry groups for the other in
>>>> case
>>>> one is down for whatever reason. both will honor each others bans.
>>>>
>>>> this is suspicious to BD.
>>>>
>>>> he is even more suspicious because he doesn't understand how i can be
>>>> staff
>>>> for both servers.
>>>>
>>>> he had his identity stolen and rather than blame his own inexperience
>>>> on
>>>> line, he insists 'we' did it and he's going to prove it.
>>>>
>>>> TL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

[BoaterDave]

I despair Troll_Lady.

However, I'll reiterate just one more time so that other reader here will
know *exactly* what was meant.

My PC was 'attacked', and put out of service (for a time) by a person
unknown who was operating from the US site of the Annexcafe User2User
newsgroup. (annexcafe.general.user2user).

Nowhere else. I have no doubt.

As I've said on numerous occasions now, 'The truth *will* out'

BD

****************************************************************

"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:6eGdnfWuc8CGvUnbnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@bright.net...
> why? of course I know!
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:%23OuBvmU6HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> My PC *was* attacked.
>
> Perhaps you know why? ............... but then I'm quite sure you
> wouldn't
> tell others here!
>
> BD
>
> *******************************************************************

 

[Troll_Lady]

i have no doubt that you are mistaken.

you need to learn about servers, newsgroups and security.
until you have, and can type with some knowledge, your quest will be full of
despair.



"BoaterDave" wrote in message
news:eOCD89X6HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
I despair Troll_Lady.

However, I'll reiterate just one more time so that other reader here will
know *exactly* what was meant.

My PC was 'attacked', and put out of service (for a time) by a person
unknown who was operating from the US site of the Annexcafe User2User
newsgroup. (annexcafe.general.user2user).

Nowhere else. I have no doubt.

As I've said on numerous occasions now, 'The truth *will* out'

BD

****************************************************************

"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:6eGdnfWuc8CGvUnbnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@bright.net...
> why? of course I know!
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:%23OuBvmU6HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> My PC *was* attacked.
>
> Perhaps you know why? ............... but then I'm quite sure you
> wouldn't
> tell others here!
>
> BD
>
> *******************************************************************

 

[BoaterDave]

I'll need some help then!

Any volunteers here?

BD

*************************************************
"Troll_Lady" wrote in message
news:HPednfD6ONzAx0nbnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@bright.net...
>i have no doubt that you are mistaken.
>
> you need to learn about servers, newsgroups and security.
> until you have, and can type with some knowledge, your quest will be full
> of
> despair.
>
>
>
> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
> news:eOCD89X6HHA.5984@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I despair Troll_Lady.
>
> However, I'll reiterate just one more time so that other reader here will
> know *exactly* what was meant.
>
> My PC was 'attacked', and put out of service (for a time) by a person
> unknown who was operating from the US site of the Annexcafe User2User
> newsgroup. (annexcafe.general.user2user).
>
> Nowhere else. I have no doubt.
>
> As I've said on numerous occasions now, 'The truth *will* out'
>
> BD
>
> ****************************************************************
>
> "Troll_Lady" wrote in message
> news:6eGdnfWuc8CGvUnbnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@bright.net...
>> why? of course I know!
>>
>> "BoaterDave" wrote in message
>> news:%23OuBvmU6HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> My PC *was* attacked.
>>
>> Perhaps you know why? ............... but then I'm quite sure you
>> wouldn't
>> tell others here!
>>
>> BD
>>
>> *******************************************************************
>
>
>