Alias wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:eyh83gSyHHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:emowydJyHHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Give it up already Linux and Ubuntu is crap on the desktop and
>>>>>>>>> over 98% of the world knows it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> False and false.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those numbers have not made any significant changes in the last
>>>>>>>>> 10 years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> False.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So go play with your other Linux droids.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The inevitable insult from someone jealous because he paid an
>>>>>>>> arm and a leg for Vista only to find out that Ubuntu is better
>>>>>>>> and free. Too bad, baby. Or should I say Hasta La Vista, Baby?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Didn't cost me a dime. And Ubuntu is still crap for anyone who
>>>>>>> does real work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Truer words were never spoken!
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>> Course neither of you dare to say what "real work" is and can only
>>>>> snootily sneer at Open Source. Jealousy usually works that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>> There is a reality that you linux lovers are simply not willing or
>>>> are unable to accept and that is that linux is not a main stream
>>>> business os capable of running most "real world" productive
>>>> software. And please, don't tell me about wine or emulators. We've
>>>> been thru diatribe with you guys many times before and nothing,
>>>> absolutely nothing, has changed. You still can't run most major
>>>> software applications on linux...period! The software applications
>>>> most business need and use on a daily basis will not run on linux.
>>>> Linux has some applications that are "almost" similar, but "almost"
>>>> won't cut it in the "real" business world.
>>>> Sorry!
>>>> You may think in your mind that is will but in the "real" world (a
>>>> place you don't seem to be a part of) it really doesn't run the type
>>>> of software most (90+ %) of all business need to run in order to be
>>>> productive.
>>>>
>>>> Now you may insert your snide, irrelevant reply that makes you feel
>>>> good because it doesn't change a darn thing and deep inside you know
>>>> it doesn't.
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> And the real work is? And the software programs are?
>>>
>>> Alias, not holding his breath
>>
>> Remote manage 10 domains - Policies for updates for 2000+ machines -
>> Auto install or deinstall software.
>> Local administration groups - Remote management - and this is just the
>> management part.
>> I'm not going to get into interoperability as it would be way over
>> your head. So I'm waiting for your answer to the above.
>>
>
> Um, that's not "real work"; that's managing computers. I suspect there
> is a way when you consider how many large corporations and governments
> use Linux. I do all my work with Ubuntu and it provides me with real
> money. What do the operators of these computers do that Ubuntu can't do?
Managing computers IS real work, Alias. An unmanaged computer is a
vulnerable computer.
Managing infrastructure IS real work.
Managing domains (in the simplest sense, to the most complex sense) IS
real work.
> Can one send and receive email with Ubuntu? Yes.
>
> Can one surf the web? Yes
>
> Can one do spreadsheets, word docs., data base, web sites, Gimp, etc.? Yes.
Sending/receiving email IS NOT real work.
Web surfing IS NOT real work
Word processing, spreadsheets IS NOT real work. Creating/Editing images
IS NOT real work.
> Can one do IM with Ubuntu? Yes. VOIP? Yes.
IM IS NOT real work. VoIP is a protocol/technology, not "work" in my eyes.
> Can one easily get a virus with Ubuntu? No. With Windows? Yes.
Note: I kept your original line intact, no changes. I made the minor
change of excluding 'easily' in the statements below.
Can one get any virus/worm with Win32/64?
(118099 Win32, 5 Win64 on search)
http://www.viruslist.com/en/find?search_mode=virus&words=Win32
http://www.viruslist.com/en/find?search_mode=virus&words=Win64
Can one get any virus/worm with BSD?
(Found 40 on search)
http://www.viruslist.com/en/find?search_mode=virus&words=BSD
Can one get any virus/worm with Linux?
(Found 1111 on search)
http://www.viruslist.com/en/find?search_mode=virus&words=Linux
Might I add, the viruses on BSD seem to be both BSD/Linux independant
(i.e: requiring apache to run to exploit these boxes). I found one
(DoS.Linux.Chass) that is Linux specific that 1) doesn't require a 3rd
party binary, 2) doesn't affect BSD, or wasn't designed for BSD.
> Can one easily get malware with Ubuntu? No. With Windows? Yes.
WRONG.
Tracking cookies are considered malware. You get malware with any
Internet-connected machine and a WWW browser.
"malware" is defined as:
"software designed to infiltrate or damage a computer system without the
owner's informed consent" (wikipedia.com)
"any code, program, script, software or any instructions interpreted as
attacking a computer operating system (most probably a Windows operating
system). Malware includes spyware, trojans, viruses/virii, denial of
service/DoS attacks." (urbandictionary.com)
"Malicious computer software that interferes with normal computer
functions or sends personal data about the user to unauthorized parties
over the Internet." (dictionary.com)
I think dictionary.com has it nailed best.
> Is everything updated at once with Ubuntu? Yes. With Windows? No.
Microsoft provides updates in one place for everything Microsoft
(Windows, Office...). But doesn't update 3rd party software such as
Mozilla software, or any governmental agency. Neither does BSD,
directly. You still obtain updates in BSD, but not through the OS's own
servers.
> Does one have to constantly prove that one is not a pirate over and over
> again with Ubuntu? No. With Windows Vista? You betcha.
http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/
You're comparing bananas to oranges (I did not want to use the
'Apples[1] to Oranges' comparison).
Linux wants everyone to share it. Microsoft wants only the people who
have legally paid for a license to use it. This is an unfair
comparison. You should drop this immediately, permanently.
> Alias
Mull this information over, Alias. You aren't entirely right.
[1]
http://www.apple.com/