My zero-defect Vista - let the flames begin!

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Henry wrote:

> Alias wrote:
>
>> Henry wrote:
>>
>>> Really!
>>> No freezes, faults, crashes, breakdowns. Everything works perfectly
>>> including my old custom stuff from W95 days.
>>
>>
>> Really? They got rid of WPA, DRM and WGA?
>>
>> Alias
>
>
>
> I don't know what those abbreviations stand for. We have some custom
> software interfaces to medical devices developed for us years ago. Under
> Vista, they continue to work fine.

Henry, alias does not have Vista installed so he has no real "seat time"
using it.
He's a lying linux troll and has no creditability at all.
Pay no attention to him.
Frank
 
You have that backward, junior. A troll comes into a Vista newsgroup to
badmouth Microsoft and Vista and preach some other OS. Sound familiar?

Allow me to introduce myself. My screenname is KristleBawl and I don't have
any problems with Vista, and I not only don't hate it but I'm honestly quite
fond of it.

Spread your hatred somewhere else. People come here to get help solving
Vista issues, or to help others solve their problems, not to listen to a
bunch of whiny wannabees cry in their Gerber's because some third-party game
won't run on Vista.

WHAAAAAAHHH!

"carl feredeck" wrote in message news:46a08be5@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> there are millions that have trouble with vista, in fact I don't know
> anyone who doesn't have problems with vista or doesn't hate it.
>
> You are a troll... since you want to extrapolate your lousy observations
> to the whole world!
>
> GET LOST ALREADY!!!
 
Mike wrote:
> In article <46a0bc6e$1@newsgate.x-privat.org>,
> "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No Mike.. we dont want perfection...
>>
>> but we DO want something very very very very good!
>
> We have that. We have Vista now, and the "superb" XP before it.
>
> Mike

All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I call
Public Beta before they were ready for prime time. You are a public beta
tester and, what's ironic, you paid MS for the privilege and, even so,
you will be accused of piracy by Vista until you prove otherwise over
and over and over again.

Alias
 
Henry wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Henry wrote:
>>> Really!
>>> No freezes, faults, crashes, breakdowns. Everything works perfectly
>>> including my old custom stuff from W95 days.
>>
>> Really? They got rid of WPA, DRM and WGA?
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> I don't know what those abbreviations stand for.

Microsoft would just as soon you didn't know.

WPA: Windows Product Activation

WGA: Windows Genuine Advantage

DRM: Digital Rights Management.

Alias
 
Frank wrote:
> Henry wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Henry wrote:
>>>
>>>> Really!
>>>> No freezes, faults, crashes, breakdowns. Everything works perfectly
>>>> including my old custom stuff from W95 days.
>>>
>>>
>>> Really? They got rid of WPA, DRM and WGA?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know what those abbreviations stand for. We have some custom
>> software interfaces to medical devices developed for us years ago.
>> Under Vista, they continue to work fine.
>
> Henry, alias does not have Vista installed so he has no real "seat time"
> using it.

A lie.

> He's a lying linux troll and has no creditability at all.

Another lie.

> Pay no attention to him.
> Frank

You mean like you don't pay any attention to me?

LOL!

Alias
 
Mike wrote:
> In article <46a0b11c$1@newsgate.x-privat.org>,
> "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
>
> Alive and well in some countries.

But not at Microsoft.

>
>> Now its guilty and you have to prove you are innocent many times a year!
>
> Where is that?

WPA and WGA.

>
>> Vista is very aggressive and it calls home way too much... more than XP.
>> Now I understand why so many people made a fuss with activation on XP.
>> Because it opened the door to all this crap....
>
> What do you care if you are legal?

Because it's a hassle to call India and because the flawed programs give
false positives of course!

>
>> And now you know what MS said? They will enable the same activation
>> technology for other 3rd party products! So if they hurl all the industry
>> into this stupid anti-piracy strategy...
>> they wont have that many fingers pointing at them alone!
>
> Sounds like a good idea. Pirates are whining about it, it must be
> working.

Pirates could care less. Cracked copies of Windows need no WPA or WGA.

>
>> This is sick and this is NOT the way they should have countered the effects
>> of piracy.
>
> What should they have done? Copy protected DVDs? Been there,
> doesn't work. Hardware Dongles? Been there, doesn't work.

How about trusting your customers to be honest. After all, if most
weren't honest, how in the world did MS make BILLIONS off of pre XP
Windows and Office?

>
>> Piracy is not good no.. but monitoring the use of software like this is far
>> far far far far worse! FREEDOM above all.
>
> Ah yes, the old chestnut "I am enslaved to Microsoft". What a load of
> rubbish.
>
> Mike

MS says jump and Mike asks "How high?'

Alias
 
Oh come on now, tell 'em about the wonderful cure-all, virus free, do
everything Ubuntu. You're slipping in your old age


"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:OtJaiSuyHHA.2224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Mike wrote:
>> In article <46a0bc6e$1@newsgate.x-privat.org>,
>> "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No Mike.. we dont want perfection...
>>>
>>> but we DO want something very very very very good!
>>
>> We have that. We have Vista now, and the "superb" XP before it.
>>
>> Mike
>
> All versions of Windows, without exception, ended up in what I call Public
> Beta before they were ready for prime time. You are a public beta tester
> and, what's ironic, you paid MS for the privilege and, even so, you will
> be accused of piracy by Vista until you prove otherwise over and over and
> over again.
>
> Alias
 
KristleBawl wrote:
> You have that backward, junior. A troll comes into a Vista newsgroup to
> badmouth Microsoft and Vista and preach some other OS. Sound familiar?
>
> Allow me to introduce myself. My screenname is KristleBawl and I don't have
> any problems with Vista, and I not only don't hate it but I'm honestly quite
> fond of it.
>
> Spread your hatred somewhere else. People come here to get help solving
> Vista issues, or to help others solve their problems, not to listen to a
> bunch of whiny wannabees cry in their Gerber's because some third-party game
> won't run on Vista.
>
> WHAAAAAAHHH!

Ooh, a net nanny. How quaint. Do you also do windows and iron shirts?

Alias
 
Ubuntu says to Alias, bend over and Alias says, "How Deep?"


"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:e56ruVuyHHA.2224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Mike wrote:
>> In article <46a0b11c$1@newsgate.x-privat.org>,
>> "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
>>
>> Alive and well in some countries.
>
> But not at Microsoft.
>
>>
>>> Now its guilty and you have to prove you are innocent many times a year!
>>
>> Where is that?
>
> WPA and WGA.
>
>>
>>> Vista is very aggressive and it calls home way too much... more than XP.
>>> Now I understand why so many people made a fuss with activation on XP.
>>> Because it opened the door to all this crap....
>>
>> What do you care if you are legal?
>
> Because it's a hassle to call India and because the flawed programs give
> false positives of course!
>
>>
>>> And now you know what MS said? They will enable the same activation
>>> technology for other 3rd party products! So if they hurl all the
>>> industry into this stupid anti-piracy strategy...
>>> they wont have that many fingers pointing at them alone!
>>
>> Sounds like a good idea. Pirates are whining about it, it must be
>> working.
>
> Pirates could care less. Cracked copies of Windows need no WPA or WGA.
>
>>
>>> This is sick and this is NOT the way they should have countered the
>>> effects of piracy.
>>
>> What should they have done? Copy protected DVDs? Been there,
>> doesn't work. Hardware Dongles? Been there, doesn't work.
>
> How about trusting your customers to be honest. After all, if most weren't
> honest, how in the world did MS make BILLIONS off of pre XP Windows and
> Office?
>
>>
>>> Piracy is not good no.. but monitoring the use of software like this is
>>> far far far far far worse! FREEDOM above all.
>>
>> Ah yes, the old chestnut "I am enslaved to Microsoft". What a load of
>> rubbish.
>>
>> Mike
>
> MS says jump and Mike asks "How high?'
>
> Alias
 
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:59:31 -0700, Henry wrote:

> Really!
> No freezes, faults, crashes, breakdowns. Everything works
> perfectly including my old custom stuff from W95 days. Speed is
> about the same as XP. Vista repairs itself, defrags the drive,
> protects my work, solves problems on its own. The sidebar has
> seriously useful gadgets that make life easier. Files and
> folders are now easier to find, in any of several ways.
>
> I came by looking for more joy, gadgets, exploitation stories,
> and high fives -- and learned that people happy with Vista don't
> waste time here. That leaves the rest...

I'm glad it works for you. Judging by the volume you may be in the
minority.
 
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:18:13 -0700, Frank <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote:

>Henry wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Henry wrote:
>>>
>>>> Really!
>>>> No freezes, faults, crashes, breakdowns. Everything works perfectly
>>>> including my old custom stuff from W95 days.
>>>
>>>
>>> Really? They got rid of WPA, DRM and WGA?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know what those abbreviations stand for. We have some custom
>> software interfaces to medical devices developed for us years ago. Under
>> Vista, they continue to work fine.
>
>Henry, alias does not have Vista installed so he has no real "seat time"
>using it.
>He's a lying linux troll and has no creditability at all.
>Pay no attention to him.
>Frank

Well Henry you also need to know about our little Frank, the newsgroup
mascot. He's a confirmed liar, hot head and Microsoft butt kisser. He
calls everybody a troll that disagrees with the slop he posts. You can
judge his creditability by just reading a handful of his usual rants.
 
What you two seem to forget is that Vista is designed for home use, not
app-intensive business networking, etc.

Vista follows the Win95, Win98, WinME line, *not* the NT family of work
horse network client machines.

It replaces Win98, WinME and earlier, but is *not* a replacement to Win XP.
It's another option, a choice.

Geeks can fiddle around more with Linux, office networks run on a server OS
and NT-type clents, but the bells and whistles, the eye candy, and the extra
toys are aimed at ordinary consumers running Internet and entertainment, and
maybe word and calculator for the kids to do homework. No one ever claimed
it was the one sized fits all power users OS of the future, just the "most
secure version of Windows so far," as long as you add a decent AV.

Think about it! It's designed to protect the *naive* user from "installing"
something just by visiting a website advertised in a popup.

Why would anyone with advanced experience expect it to be the same as any
other OS ever released? You need, want and expect something else, I don't.

I'll stick with Vista, thank you!

"carl feredeck" wrote in message news:46a0bd6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>I back up your experience with mine and what you say is 100% correct!
> They are using it either for a very limited number of things or using it
> as decoration as you say. Other than that.. its a jungle out there and
> vista is falling apart!
>
>
> "Adam Albright" wrote in message
>> My experience, people that claim they have no issues with Vista use
>> their computer for little more than a decoration on their desk. People
>> that actually use a computer in a serious work environment have
>> reported many verified issues with Vista.
 
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:32:42 -0400, "KristleBawl"
<kristlebawl@hotmail.com> wrote:

>You have that backward, junior. A troll comes into a Vista newsgroup to
>badmouth Microsoft and Vista and preach some other OS. Sound familiar?
>
>Allow me to introduce myself. My screenname is KristleBawl and I don't have
>any problems with Vista, and I not only don't hate it but I'm honestly quite
>fond of it.
>
>Spread your hatred somewhere else. People come here to get help solving
>Vista issues, or to help others solve their problems, not to listen to a
>bunch of whiny wannabees cry in their Gerber's because some third-party game
>won't run on Vista.
>
>WHAAAAAAHHH!

Spoken like the typical Microsoft apologist. Your official Microsoft
butt kisser certificate suitable for framing is in the mail.
 
Bill Yanaire wrote:
> Ubuntu says to Alias, bend over and Alias says, "How Deep?"

Unlike Windows, Ubuntu doesn't tell *anyone* what they *have* to do to
continue using Ubuntu.

Oops.

Alias
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:e56ruVuyHHA.2224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Mike wrote:
>>> In article <46a0b11c$1@newsgate.x-privat.org>,
>>> "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
>>> Alive and well in some countries.
>> But not at Microsoft.
>>
>>>> Now its guilty and you have to prove you are innocent many times a year!
>>> Where is that?
>> WPA and WGA.
>>
>>>> Vista is very aggressive and it calls home way too much... more than XP.
>>>> Now I understand why so many people made a fuss with activation on XP.
>>>> Because it opened the door to all this crap....
>>> What do you care if you are legal?
>> Because it's a hassle to call India and because the flawed programs give
>> false positives of course!
>>
>>>> And now you know what MS said? They will enable the same activation
>>>> technology for other 3rd party products! So if they hurl all the
>>>> industry into this stupid anti-piracy strategy...
>>>> they wont have that many fingers pointing at them alone!
>>> Sounds like a good idea. Pirates are whining about it, it must be
>>> working.
>> Pirates could care less. Cracked copies of Windows need no WPA or WGA.
>>
>>>> This is sick and this is NOT the way they should have countered the
>>>> effects of piracy.
>>> What should they have done? Copy protected DVDs? Been there,
>>> doesn't work. Hardware Dongles? Been there, doesn't work.
>> How about trusting your customers to be honest. After all, if most weren't
>> honest, how in the world did MS make BILLIONS off of pre XP Windows and
>> Office?
>>
>>>> Piracy is not good no.. but monitoring the use of software like this is
>>>> far far far far far worse! FREEDOM above all.
>>> Ah yes, the old chestnut "I am enslaved to Microsoft". What a load of
>>> rubbish.
>>>
>>> Mike
>> MS says jump and Mike asks "How high?'
>>
>> Alias
>
>
 
I'm running for president of the Pro-Vista Idiot's Club, and you're not
invited!

BTW, FWIW, YMMV.

KB

"carl feredeck" wrote in message news:46a08acd@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> So you are troll postulating inaccurate lies to create flamewars????
>
> Only an idiot would say that vista is good...
>
> I shouldnt even have replied to this trash!
>
> "Henry" wrote in message...
>> Really!
>> No freezes, faults, crashes, breakdowns. Everything works perfectly
>> including my old custom stuff from W95 days. Speed is about the same as
>> XP. Vista repairs itself, defrags the drive, protects my work, solves
>> problems on its own. The sidebar has seriously useful gadgets that make
>> life easier. Files and folders are now easier to find, in any of several
>> ways.
>>
>> I came by looking for more joy, gadgets, exploitation stories, and high
>> fives -- and learned that people happy with Vista don't waste time here.
>> That leaves the rest...
>
>
 
KristleBawl wrote:
> What you two seem to forget is that Vista is designed for home use, not
> app-intensive business networking, etc.

So Vista Business and Enterprise is for home use. Do tell.

Alias
>
> Vista follows the Win95, Win98, WinME line, *not* the NT family of work
> horse network client machines.
>
> It replaces Win98, WinME and earlier, but is *not* a replacement to Win XP.
> It's another option, a choice.
>
> Geeks can fiddle around more with Linux, office networks run on a server OS
> and NT-type clents, but the bells and whistles, the eye candy, and the extra
> toys are aimed at ordinary consumers running Internet and entertainment, and
> maybe word and calculator for the kids to do homework. No one ever claimed
> it was the one sized fits all power users OS of the future, just the "most
> secure version of Windows so far," as long as you add a decent AV.
>
> Think about it! It's designed to protect the *naive* user from "installing"
> something just by visiting a website advertised in a popup.
>
> Why would anyone with advanced experience expect it to be the same as any
> other OS ever released? You need, want and expect something else, I don't.
>
> I'll stick with Vista, thank you!
>
> "carl feredeck" wrote in message news:46a0bd6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> I back up your experience with mine and what you say is 100% correct!
>> They are using it either for a very limited number of things or using it
>> as decoration as you say. Other than that.. its a jungle out there and
>> vista is falling apart!
>>
>>
>> "Adam Albright" wrote in message
>>> My experience, people that claim they have no issues with Vista use
>>> their computer for little more than a decoration on their desk. People
>>> that actually use a computer in a serious work environment have
>>> reported many verified issues with Vista.
>
>
 
>but is *not* a replacement to Win XP

Huh??? Not even for XP "home"??? lol.

is that what you saw in your crystal ball?



"KristleBawl" <kristlebawl@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uHHsQeuyHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> What you two seem to forget is that Vista is designed for home use, not
> app-intensive business networking, etc.
>
> Vista follows the Win95, Win98, WinME line, *not* the NT family of work
> horse network client machines.
>
> It replaces Win98, WinME and earlier, but is *not* a replacement to Win
> XP. It's another option, a choice.
>
> Geeks can fiddle around more with Linux, office networks run on a server
> OS and NT-type clents, but the bells and whistles, the eye candy, and the
> extra toys are aimed at ordinary consumers running Internet and
> entertainment, and maybe word and calculator for the kids to do homework.
> No one ever claimed it was the one sized fits all power users OS of the
> future, just the "most secure version of Windows so far," as long as you
> add a decent AV.
>
> Think about it! It's designed to protect the *naive* user from
> "installing" something just by visiting a website advertised in a popup.
>
> Why would anyone with advanced experience expect it to be the same as any
> other OS ever released? You need, want and expect something else, I don't.
>
> I'll stick with Vista, thank you!
>
> "carl feredeck" wrote in message news:46a0bd6d$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>I back up your experience with mine and what you say is 100% correct!
>> They are using it either for a very limited number of things or using it
>> as decoration as you say. Other than that.. its a jungle out there and
>> vista is falling apart!
>>
>>
>> "Adam Albright" wrote in message
>>> My experience, people that claim they have no issues with Vista use
>>> their computer for little more than a decoration on their desk. People
>>> that actually use a computer in a serious work environment have
>>> reported many verified issues with Vista.
>
>
 
Count me among the many more running Vista with no problems.

--
Leo

It is said that if you line up all the cars in the world end-to-end,
someone would be stupid enough to try to pass them.



"Robert Firth" <webmaster@winvistainfo.org> wrote in message
news:8CB7EA00-2324-4AC5-A46E-41ED72AAA138@microsoft.com...
> Wow, what a coincidence, that makes two of us! But if there is two of us
> without problems, maybe there are more! And if there are more, maybe many
> more!
>
> Robert Firth
> http://www.winvistainfo.org
>
> "Henry" <not@all.com> wrote in message
> news:f7pffl$rr3$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Really!
>> No freezes, faults, crashes, breakdowns. Everything works perfectly
>> including my old custom stuff from W95 days. Speed is about the same as
>> XP. Vista repairs itself, defrags the drive, protects my work, solves
>> problems on its own. The sidebar has seriously useful gadgets that make
>> life easier. Files and folders are now easier to find, in any of several
>> ways.
>>
>> I came by looking for more joy, gadgets, exploitation stories, and high
>> fives -- and learned that people happy with Vista don't waste time here.
>> That leaves the rest...
>
 
Right on cue, an anti-MS troll appears.

--
Leo

It is said that if you line up all the cars in the world end-to-end,
someone would be stupid enough to try to pass them.



"carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message
news:46a08be5@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> there are millions that have trouble with vista, in fact I don't know
> anyone who doesn't have problems with vista or doesn't hate it.
>
> You are a troll... since you want to extrapolate your lousy observations
> to the whole world!
>
> GET LOST ALREADY!!!
>
> "Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in message
> news:D538658B-8998-4EDE-BC6E-575519AC3C12@microsoft.com...
>> Of course there are not two or three like us but millions already
>> enjoying Vista. Lots of people who come to list like this either have
>> difficulties with whatever system they use or are just finding one aspect
>> of a new system a problem. Of course there will always be the trouble
>> makers who want to knock MS at every opportunity, but they are just
>> Trolls.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ian
>>
>> "Robert Firth" <webmaster@winvistainfo.org> wrote in message
>> news:8CB7EA00-2324-4AC5-A46E-41ED72AAA138@microsoft.com...
>>> Wow, what a coincidence, that makes two of us! But if there is two of us
>>> without problems, maybe there are more! And if there are more, maybe
>>> many more!
>>>
>>> Robert Firth
>>> http://www.winvistainfo.org
>>>
>>> "Henry" <not@all.com> wrote in message
>>> news:f7pffl$rr3$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> Really!
>>>> No freezes, faults, crashes, breakdowns. Everything works perfectly
>>>> including my old custom stuff from W95 days. Speed is about the same as
>>>> XP. Vista repairs itself, defrags the drive, protects my work, solves
>>>> problems on its own. The sidebar has seriously useful gadgets that make
>>>> life easier. Files and folders are now easier to find, in any of
>>>> several ways.
>>>>
>>>> I came by looking for more joy, gadgets, exploitation stories, and high
>>>> fives -- and learned that people happy with Vista don't waste time
>>>> here. That leaves the rest...
>>>
>>>
>
>
 
Remove Shrink Wrap

Maybe you should take the shrink wrap off the box!


"Henry" <not@all.com> wrote in message
news:f7pffl$rr3$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Really!
> No freezes, faults, crashes, breakdowns. Everything works perfectly
> including my old custom stuff from W95 days. Speed is about the same as
> XP. Vista repairs itself, defrags the drive, protects my work, solves
> problems on its own. The sidebar has seriously useful gadgets that make
> life easier. Files and folders are now easier to find, in any of several
> ways.
>
> I came by looking for more joy, gadgets, exploitation stories, and high
> fives -- and learned that people happy with Vista don't waste time here.
> That leaves the rest...
 
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