SP3 will not install but no error message

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I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program, I used the express

method and the files were downloaded to the computer and installation started

Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very early on at the part "updating your

system, creating cabinets, etc. details says Running Process Before

Install". 5 progress bars come up and that is it!! But there is no error

message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks everyone

--

LJB
 
There is no such thing as Express Method because you have to go

through the pain barrier M$ wants everybody to go through because

SP3 is a very big file and depending on what updates you have

already installed the file size is: 316.4 MB. This is almost the

same size as real Operating system!



I suggest download the full file version from this link:







hth













LewB wrote:

>

> I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program, I used the express

> method and the files were downloaded to the computer and installation started

> Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very early on at the part "updating your

> system, creating cabinets, etc. details says Running Process Before

> Install". 5 progress bars come up and that is it!! But there is no error

> message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks everyone

> --

> LJB




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"LewB" wrote in message

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> I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program, I used the

> express

> method and the files were downloaded to the computer and installation

> started

> Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very early on at the part "updating

> your

> system, creating cabinets, etc. details says Running Process Before

> Install". 5 progress bars come up and that is it!! But there is no

> error

> message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks everyone




How long are you waiting? The installation takes quite a while, and it

will appear to be "stuck" at one screen for some time while installing.



Did you close all open programs and disable the resident anti-virus,

screensaver and power management?



This installation guide may help:

http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=33296



In cases where the installation won't complete via Windows Update, I and

others have had success with this method:



Download the offline installation package...do NOT run it from the

online location, SAVE it to the root of C:\, not in any folder:

Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT

Professionals and Developers

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4&displaylang=en



It is a large download...over 300 MB.



Once you have saved it to C:\, open Control Panel> Display> Screen Saver

tab> Power button, select Always On power scheme and make sure it is set

to NOT go into Standby or Hibernate, nor to turn off hard drives.

Click OK to return to the Screen Saver tab.

Select None from the screen saver list to turn off screen savers, then

click OK.



Now restart in Safe Mode:

How to Start Windows in Safe Mode

http://www.pchell.com/support/safemode.shtml



From Safe Mode, double-click the saved SP3 installation file in the root

of C:\, and follow the prompts to install...there will be more prompts a

few minutes into the installation prep.



When it finishes installation, it will let you know....you can then

restart in normal mode. It may take well over an hour or even two to

complete.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009

A+

http://dts-l.net/
 
Why wasn't SP3 installed two years ago?



Are you currently running WinXP SP2?



What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your

subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?

What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications running

in the background when you attempted to install SP3?



Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the

computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought

it)?



How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718



WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation

http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx



Free unlimited installation and compatibility support for WinXP SP3 was

available from 14 April 2008 thru May 2009. Such support will cost you

US$59 or higher per incident now.



Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010. After that

date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered any further

critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows

Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.



What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002





LewB wrote:

> I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program, I used the

> express method and the files were downloaded to the computer and

> installation started Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very early on at

> the

> part "updating your system, creating cabinets, etc. details says Running

> Process Before Install". 5 progress bars come up and that is it!! But

> there is no error message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks everyone
 
Thanks for your help. It finally installed after deactivating several

programs that seemed to be lagging.

--

LJB





"glee" wrote:



> "LewB" wrote in message

> news:7AE55586-2E3E-4B14-93EF-7A01D9366E24@microsoft.com...

> > I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program, I used the

> > express

> > method and the files were downloaded to the computer and installation

> > started

> > Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very early on at the part "updating

> > your

> > system, creating cabinets, etc. details says Running Process Before

> > Install". 5 progress bars come up and that is it!! But there is no

> > error

> > message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks everyone


>

> How long are you waiting? The installation takes quite a while, and it

> will appear to be "stuck" at one screen for some time while installing.

>

> Did you close all open programs and disable the resident anti-virus,

> screensaver and power management?

>

> This installation guide may help:

> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=33296

>

> In cases where the installation won't complete via Windows Update, I and

> others have had success with this method:

>

> Download the offline installation package...do NOT run it from the

> online location, SAVE it to the root of C:\, not in any folder:

> Windows XP Service Pack 3 Network Installation Package for IT

> Professionals and Developers

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4&displaylang=en

>

> It is a large download...over 300 MB.

>

> Once you have saved it to C:\, open Control Panel> Display> Screen Saver

> tab> Power button, select Always On power scheme and make sure it is set

> to NOT go into Standby or Hibernate, nor to turn off hard drives.

> Click OK to return to the Screen Saver tab.

> Select None from the screen saver list to turn off screen savers, then

> click OK.

>

> Now restart in Safe Mode:

> How to Start Windows in Safe Mode

> http://www.pchell.com/support/safemode.shtml

>

> From Safe Mode, double-click the saved SP3 installation file in the root

> of C:\, and follow the prompts to install...there will be more prompts a

> few minutes into the installation prep.

>

> When it finishes installation, it will let you know....you can then

> restart in normal mode. It may take well over an hour or even two to

> complete.

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009

> A+

> http://dts-l.net/

>

> .

>
 
Your questions are appropriate and I accept guilt for the inertia and delay.

But it's never too late and after reading your response and others it finally

installed. For others reading this correspondence deactivate your antiviral

program...in this instance McAfee.

--

LJB





"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:



> Why wasn't SP3 installed two years ago?

>

> Are you currently running WinXP SP2?

>

> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your

> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?

> What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications running

> in the background when you attempted to install SP3?

>

> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the

> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought

> it)?

>

> How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718

>

> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

>

> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support for WinXP SP3 was

> available from 14 April 2008 thru May 2009. Such support will cost you

> US$59 or higher per incident now.

>

> Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010. After that

> date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered any further

> critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows

> Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.

>

> What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?

> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean

> --

> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

>

>

> LewB wrote:

> > I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program, I used the

> > express method and the files were downloaded to the computer and

> > installation started Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very early on at

> > the

> > part "updating your system, creating cabinets, etc. details says Running

> > Process Before Install". 5 progress bars come up and that is it!! But

> > there is no error message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks everyone


>

> .

>
 
LewB do yourself a favor and dump CrapAfee altogether. It's the worst of

the worst.



--





"Don't pick a fight with an old man.

If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."





"LewB" wrote in message

news:55AB9AB2-1015-4BBB-B8ED-360EF0FAC405@microsoft.com...

> Your questions are appropriate and I accept guilt for the inertia and

> delay.

> But it's never too late and after reading your response and others it

> finally

> installed. For others reading this correspondence deactivate your

> antiviral

> program...in this instance McAfee.

> --

> LJB

>

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Why wasn't SP3 installed two years ago?

>>

>> Are you currently running WinXP SP2?

>>

>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your

>> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than

>> Defender)?

>> What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications

>> running

>> in the background when you attempted to install SP3?

>>

>> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the

>> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you

>> bought

>> it)?

>>

>> How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3

>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718

>>

>> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation

>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

>>

>> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support for WinXP SP3 was

>> available from 14 April 2008 thru May 2009. Such support will cost you

>> US$59 or higher per incident now.

>>

>> Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010. After

>> that

>> date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered any further

>> critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows

>> Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.

>>

>> What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?

>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean

>> --

>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

>>

>>

>> LewB wrote:

>> > I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program, I used the

>> > express method and the files were downloaded to the computer and

>> > installation started Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very early on at

>> > the

>> > part "updating your system, creating cabinets, etc. details says

>> > Running

>> > Process Before Install". 5 progress bars come up and that is it!! But

>> > there is no error message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks everyone


>>

>> .

>>
 
Hi Michael,

Can you expand on McAfee comment. I had Avast for awhile but a lot of

items (viruses, malware) were found on the scans I would manually run and I

went through a number of programs and never resolved the problem....even

though the computer functioned normally. I was in communication with Avast

in Germany for weeks via email being advised to run Mawarebytes, HiJack It,

and other similar malware programs. Finally a computer wise person said

McAfee was available through my cable system (Cox) at no cost so I went for

it. I have always considered it to be in the same league as Norton, etc. Is

there some particular problem you have had with McAfee (I know it's a big

program) etc. Thus far I have not had any problems and all of their

automatic scans and those I run manually have been negative. I had to take

this computer in for some diagnostics recently and the computer geeks

insisted that I had viruses etc. When I brought the machine home and ran a

McAfee scan no problems were found. I have also been told that the virus

programs/scans can produce false positives. All very confusing and would

appreciate your input....and from others reading this thread. Thanks

Lew

--

LJB





"Michael" wrote:



> LewB do yourself a favor and dump CrapAfee altogether. It's the worst of

> the worst.

>

> --

>

>

> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.

> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

>

>

> "LewB" wrote in message

> news:55AB9AB2-1015-4BBB-B8ED-360EF0FAC405@microsoft.com...

> > Your questions are appropriate and I accept guilt for the inertia and

> > delay.

> > But it's never too late and after reading your response and others it

> > finally

> > installed. For others reading this correspondence deactivate your

> > antiviral

> > program...in this instance McAfee.

> > --

> > LJB

> >

> >

> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >> Why wasn't SP3 installed two years ago?

> >>

> >> Are you currently running WinXP SP2?

> >>

> >> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your

> >> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than

> >> Defender)?

> >> What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications

> >> running

> >> in the background when you attempted to install SP3?

> >>

> >> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the

> >> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you

> >> bought

> >> it)?

> >>

> >> How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718

> >>

> >> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation

> >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

> >>

> >> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support for WinXP SP3 was

> >> available from 14 April 2008 thru May 2009. Such support will cost you

> >> US$59 or higher per incident now.

> >>

> >> Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010. After

> >> that

> >> date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered any further

> >> critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows

> >> Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.

> >>

> >> What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?

> >> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean

> >> --

> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

> >>

> >>

> >> LewB wrote:

> >> > I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program, I used the

> >> > express method and the files were downloaded to the computer and

> >> > installation started Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very early on at

> >> > the

> >> > part "updating your system, creating cabinets, etc. details says

> >> > Running

> >> > Process Before Install". 5 progress bars come up and that is it!! But

> >> > there is no error message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks everyone

> >>

> >> .

> >>


> .

>
 
Listen to what you are stating, at least the way I am reading it:



"I had Avast for awhile but a lot of items (viruses, malware) were

found on the scans"



"Thus far I have not had any problems and all of their

automatic scans and those I run manually have been negative."



"I had to take this computer in for some diagnostics recently and the

computer geeks insisted that I had viruses etc. When I brought the

machine home and ran a McAfee scan no problems were found."



So another AV program found malware, their techs told you to run other

malware scans, your local computer techs told you there was

malware...but since McAfee can't find any, it must be good? You've got

to be kidding!



The free AV apps supplied via an ISP are generally inferior to their

regular version. I'd much rather have Avast or Avira or MSE (all free

programs) than a free ISP-supplied version of Norton or McAfee.



What you need to do is have your system scanned from outside the

operating system, via an AV boot CD or by slaving the hard drive to

another system for scanning. As long as Windows is running on your

computer, root kits will hide successfully and you will never know if it

is really clean.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009

A+

http://dts-l.net/





"LewB" wrote in message

news:096A6A43-643E-45CA-B721-E6F43FA0576B@microsoft.com...

> Hi Michael,

> Can you expand on McAfee comment. I had Avast for awhile but a lot

> of

> items (viruses, malware) were found on the scans I would manually run

> and I

> went through a number of programs and never resolved the

> problem....even

> though the computer functioned normally. I was in communication with

> Avast

> in Germany for weeks via email being advised to run Mawarebytes,

> HiJack It,

> and other similar malware programs. Finally a computer wise person

> said

> McAfee was available through my cable system (Cox) at no cost so I

> went for

> it. I have always considered it to be in the same league as Norton,

> etc. Is

> there some particular problem you have had with McAfee (I know it's a

> big

> program) etc. Thus far I have not had any problems and all of their

> automatic scans and those I run manually have been negative. I had to

> take

> this computer in for some diagnostics recently and the computer geeks

> insisted that I had viruses etc. When I brought the machine home and

> ran a

> McAfee scan no problems were found. I have also been told that the

> virus

> programs/scans can produce false positives. All very confusing and

> would

> appreciate your input....and from others reading this thread. Thanks

> Lew

> --

> LJB

>

>

> "Michael" wrote:

>

>> LewB do yourself a favor and dump CrapAfee altogether. It's the

>> worst of

>> the worst.

>>

>> --

>>

>>

>> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.

>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

>>

>>

>> "LewB" wrote in message

>> news:55AB9AB2-1015-4BBB-B8ED-360EF0FAC405@microsoft.com...

>> > Your questions are appropriate and I accept guilt for the inertia

>> > and

>> > delay.

>> > But it's never too late and after reading your response and others

>> > it

>> > finally

>> > installed. For others reading this correspondence deactivate your

>> > antiviral

>> > program...in this instance McAfee.

>> > --

>> > LJB

>> >

>> >

>> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Why wasn't SP3 installed two years ago?

>> >>

>> >> Are you currently running WinXP SP2?

>> >>

>> >> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is

>> >> your

>> >> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than

>> >> Defender)?

>> >> What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these

>> >> applications

>> >> running

>> >> in the background when you attempted to install SP3?

>> >>

>> >> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on

>> >> the

>> >> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when

>> >> you

>> >> bought

>> >> it)?

>> >>

>> >> How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3

>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718

>> >>

>> >> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation

>> >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

>> >>

>> >> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support for WinXP

>> >> SP3 was

>> >> available from 14 April 2008 thru May 2009. Such support will

>> >> cost you

>> >> US$59 or higher per incident now.

>> >>

>> >> Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010.

>> >> After

>> >> that

>> >> date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered any

>> >> further

>> >> critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and

>> >> Windows

>> >> Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.

>> >>

>> >> What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?

>> >> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean

>> >> --

>> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> LewB wrote:

>> >> > I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program, I

>> >> > used the

>> >> > express method and the files were downloaded to the computer and

>> >> > installation started Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very

>> >> > early on at

>> >> > the

>> >> > part "updating your system, creating cabinets, etc. details

>> >> > says

>> >> > Running

>> >> > Process Before Install". 5 progress bars come up and that is

>> >> > it!! But

>> >> > there is no error message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks everyone

>> >>

>> >> .

>> >>


>> .

>>
 
CrapAfee is a resource hog that is bottom of the barrel as far as AV is

concerned. It's the equivalent of having a screen door on a submarine.

Norton is better at catching stuff, but if you don't have a ton of RAM, it

also slows your system to a crawl. Download CrapAfee's removal tool, then

download Microsoft Security Essentials (my preference). Run CrapAfee's

removal, reboot, then install MSE. Your computer will run smoother and

you'll be better protected.



I'm not a M$ whore. I just like MSE and I've had extensive experience with

CrapAfee and Norton.



--





"Don't pick a fight with an old man.

If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."





"LewB" wrote in message

news:096A6A43-643E-45CA-B721-E6F43FA0576B@microsoft.com...

> Hi Michael,

> Can you expand on McAfee comment. I had Avast for awhile but a lot of

> items (viruses, malware) were found on the scans I would manually run and

> I

> went through a number of programs and never resolved the problem....even

> though the computer functioned normally. I was in communication with

> Avast

> in Germany for weeks via email being advised to run Mawarebytes, HiJack

> It,

> and other similar malware programs. Finally a computer wise person said

> McAfee was available through my cable system (Cox) at no cost so I went

> for

> it. I have always considered it to be in the same league as Norton, etc.

> Is

> there some particular problem you have had with McAfee (I know it's a big

> program) etc. Thus far I have not had any problems and all of their

> automatic scans and those I run manually have been negative. I had to

> take

> this computer in for some diagnostics recently and the computer geeks

> insisted that I had viruses etc. When I brought the machine home and ran

> a

> McAfee scan no problems were found. I have also been told that the virus

> programs/scans can produce false positives. All very confusing and would

> appreciate your input....and from others reading this thread. Thanks

> Lew

> --

> LJB

>

>

> "Michael" wrote:

>

>> LewB do yourself a favor and dump CrapAfee altogether. It's the worst of

>> the worst.

>>

>> --

>>

>>

>> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.

>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

>>

>>

>> "LewB" wrote in message

>> news:55AB9AB2-1015-4BBB-B8ED-360EF0FAC405@microsoft.com...

>> > Your questions are appropriate and I accept guilt for the inertia and

>> > delay.

>> > But it's never too late and after reading your response and others it

>> > finally

>> > installed. For others reading this correspondence deactivate your

>> > antiviral

>> > program...in this instance McAfee.

>> > --

>> > LJB

>> >

>> >

>> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Why wasn't SP3 installed two years ago?

>> >>

>> >> Are you currently running WinXP SP2?

>> >>

>> >> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your

>> >> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than

>> >> Defender)?

>> >> What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications

>> >> running

>> >> in the background when you attempted to install SP3?

>> >>

>> >> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the

>> >> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you

>> >> bought

>> >> it)?

>> >>

>> >> How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3

>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718

>> >>

>> >> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation

>> >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

>> >>

>> >> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support for WinXP SP3

>> >> was

>> >> available from 14 April 2008 thru May 2009. Such support will cost

>> >> you

>> >> US$59 or higher per incident now.

>> >>

>> >> Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010. After

>> >> that

>> >> date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered any

>> >> further

>> >> critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and

>> >> Windows

>> >> Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.

>> >>

>> >> What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?

>> >> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean

>> >> --

>> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> LewB wrote:

>> >> > I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program, I used

>> >> > the

>> >> > express method and the files were downloaded to the computer and

>> >> > installation started Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very early on

>> >> > at

>> >> > the

>> >> > part "updating your system, creating cabinets, etc. details says

>> >> > Running

>> >> > Process Before Install". 5 progress bars come up and that is it!!

>> >> > But

>> >> > there is no error message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks everyone

>> >>

>> >> .

>> >>


>> .

>>
 
Your thoughts are at some variance from Glee's who says the program should be

scanned from outside the OS. Any other thoughts from anyone.

--

LJB





"Michael" wrote:



> CrapAfee is a resource hog that is bottom of the barrel as far as AV is

> concerned. It's the equivalent of having a screen door on a submarine.

> Norton is better at catching stuff, but if you don't have a ton of RAM, it

> also slows your system to a crawl. Download CrapAfee's removal tool, then

> download Microsoft Security Essentials (my preference). Run CrapAfee's

> removal, reboot, then install MSE. Your computer will run smoother and

> you'll be better protected.

>

> I'm not a M$ whore. I just like MSE and I've had extensive experience with

> CrapAfee and Norton.

>

> --

>

>

> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.

> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

>

>

> "LewB" wrote in message

> news:096A6A43-643E-45CA-B721-E6F43FA0576B@microsoft.com...

> > Hi Michael,

> > Can you expand on McAfee comment. I had Avast for awhile but a lot of

> > items (viruses, malware) were found on the scans I would manually run and

> > I

> > went through a number of programs and never resolved the problem....even

> > though the computer functioned normally. I was in communication with

> > Avast

> > in Germany for weeks via email being advised to run Mawarebytes, HiJack

> > It,

> > and other similar malware programs. Finally a computer wise person said

> > McAfee was available through my cable system (Cox) at no cost so I went

> > for

> > it. I have always considered it to be in the same league as Norton, etc.

> > Is

> > there some particular problem you have had with McAfee (I know it's a big

> > program) etc. Thus far I have not had any problems and all of their

> > automatic scans and those I run manually have been negative. I had to

> > take

> > this computer in for some diagnostics recently and the computer geeks

> > insisted that I had viruses etc. When I brought the machine home and ran

> > a

> > McAfee scan no problems were found. I have also been told that the virus

> > programs/scans can produce false positives. All very confusing and would

> > appreciate your input....and from others reading this thread. Thanks

> > Lew

> > --

> > LJB

> >

> >

> > "Michael" wrote:

> >

> >> LewB do yourself a favor and dump CrapAfee altogether. It's the worst of

> >> the worst.

> >>

> >> --

> >>

> >>

> >> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.

> >> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

> >>

> >>

> >> "LewB" wrote in message

> >> news:55AB9AB2-1015-4BBB-B8ED-360EF0FAC405@microsoft.com...

> >> > Your questions are appropriate and I accept guilt for the inertia and

> >> > delay.

> >> > But it's never too late and after reading your response and others it

> >> > finally

> >> > installed. For others reading this correspondence deactivate your

> >> > antiviral

> >> > program...in this instance McAfee.

> >> > --

> >> > LJB

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> Why wasn't SP3 installed two years ago?

> >> >>

> >> >> Are you currently running WinXP SP2?

> >> >>

> >> >> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your

> >> >> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than

> >> >> Defender)?

> >> >> What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications

> >> >> running

> >> >> in the background when you attempted to install SP3?

> >> >>

> >> >> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the

> >> >> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you

> >> >> bought

> >> >> it)?

> >> >>

> >> >> How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3

> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718

> >> >>

> >> >> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation

> >> >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

> >> >>

> >> >> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support for WinXP SP3

> >> >> was

> >> >> available from 14 April 2008 thru May 2009. Such support will cost

> >> >> you

> >> >> US$59 or higher per incident now.

> >> >>

> >> >> Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010. After

> >> >> that

> >> >> date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered any

> >> >> further

> >> >> critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and

> >> >> Windows

> >> >> Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.

> >> >>

> >> >> What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?

> >> >> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean

> >> >> --

> >> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> >> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> LewB wrote:

> >> >> > I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program, I used

> >> >> > the

> >> >> > express method and the files were downloaded to the computer and

> >> >> > installation started Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very early on

> >> >> > at

> >> >> > the

> >> >> > part "updating your system, creating cabinets, etc. details says

> >> >> > Running

> >> >> > Process Before Install". 5 progress bars come up and that is it!!

> >> >> > But

> >> >> > there is no error message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks everyone

> >> >>

> >> >> .

> >> >>

> >> .

> >>


> .

>
 
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:44:11 -0700, LewB

wrote:



> Finally a computer wise person said

> McAfee was available through my cable system (Cox) at no cost so I went for

> it.






Ugh! There are several better anti-virus programs available for free:

Avira, Avast, and Microsoft Security Essentials.





> I have always considered it to be in the same league as Norton, etc. I






LOL! Yes, it's in *exactly* the same league as Norton. As far as I

(and many others here) am concerned those are the two worst anti-virus

programs available.



It's a big shame, as far as I'm concerned. Twenty years or so ago,

McAfee was the best such program available, Then Norton took over as

the best. But today, Norton is the worst, and McAfee is second worst.

What happened to them and why they went from the top to the bottom, I

don't know.



--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
I agree with glee. Just make sure you use a real AV to scan the drive as a

slave.



--





"Don't pick a fight with an old man.

If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."





"LewB" wrote in message

news:3A7DD72E-8967-42B1-B8A8-3BC37D6E71E7@microsoft.com...

> Your thoughts are at some variance from Glee's who says the program should

> be

> scanned from outside the OS. Any other thoughts from anyone.

> --

> LJB

>

>

> "Michael" wrote:

>

>> CrapAfee is a resource hog that is bottom of the barrel as far as AV is

>> concerned. It's the equivalent of having a screen door on a submarine.

>> Norton is better at catching stuff, but if you don't have a ton of RAM,

>> it

>> also slows your system to a crawl. Download CrapAfee's removal tool,

>> then

>> download Microsoft Security Essentials (my preference). Run CrapAfee's

>> removal, reboot, then install MSE. Your computer will run smoother and

>> you'll be better protected.

>>

>> I'm not a M$ whore. I just like MSE and I've had extensive experience

>> with

>> CrapAfee and Norton.

>>

>> --

>>

>>

>> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.

>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

>>

>>

>> "LewB" wrote in message

>> news:096A6A43-643E-45CA-B721-E6F43FA0576B@microsoft.com...

>> > Hi Michael,

>> > Can you expand on McAfee comment. I had Avast for awhile but a lot of

>> > items (viruses, malware) were found on the scans I would manually run

>> > and

>> > I

>> > went through a number of programs and never resolved the

>> > problem....even

>> > though the computer functioned normally. I was in communication with

>> > Avast

>> > in Germany for weeks via email being advised to run Mawarebytes, HiJack

>> > It,

>> > and other similar malware programs. Finally a computer wise person

>> > said

>> > McAfee was available through my cable system (Cox) at no cost so I went

>> > for

>> > it. I have always considered it to be in the same league as Norton,

>> > etc.

>> > Is

>> > there some particular problem you have had with McAfee (I know it's a

>> > big

>> > program) etc. Thus far I have not had any problems and all of their

>> > automatic scans and those I run manually have been negative. I had to

>> > take

>> > this computer in for some diagnostics recently and the computer geeks

>> > insisted that I had viruses etc. When I brought the machine home and

>> > ran

>> > a

>> > McAfee scan no problems were found. I have also been told that the

>> > virus

>> > programs/scans can produce false positives. All very confusing and

>> > would

>> > appreciate your input....and from others reading this thread. Thanks

>> > Lew

>> > --

>> > LJB

>> >

>> >

>> > "Michael" wrote:

>> >

>> >> LewB do yourself a favor and dump CrapAfee altogether. It's the worst

>> >> of

>> >> the worst.

>> >>

>> >> --

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.

>> >> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> "LewB" wrote in message

>> >> news:55AB9AB2-1015-4BBB-B8ED-360EF0FAC405@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Your questions are appropriate and I accept guilt for the inertia

>> >> > and

>> >> > delay.

>> >> > But it's never too late and after reading your response and others

>> >> > it

>> >> > finally

>> >> > installed. For others reading this correspondence deactivate your

>> >> > antiviral

>> >> > program...in this instance McAfee.

>> >> > --

>> >> > LJB

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> Why wasn't SP3 installed two years ago?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Are you currently running WinXP SP2?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is

>> >> >> your

>> >> >> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than

>> >> >> Defender)?

>> >> >> What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications

>> >> >> running

>> >> >> in the background when you attempted to install SP3?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when

>> >> >> you

>> >> >> bought

>> >> >> it)?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3

>> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718

>> >> >>

>> >> >> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation

>> >> >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support for WinXP SP3

>> >> >> was

>> >> >> available from 14 April 2008 thru May 2009. Such support will cost

>> >> >> you

>> >> >> US$59 or higher per incident now.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010.

>> >> >> After

>> >> >> that

>> >> >> date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered any

>> >> >> further

>> >> >> critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and

>> >> >> Windows

>> >> >> Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?

>> >> >> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean

>> >> >> --

>> >> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> >> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> LewB wrote:

>> >> >> > I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program, I used

>> >> >> > the

>> >> >> > express method and the files were downloaded to the computer and

>> >> >> > installation started Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very early

>> >> >> > on

>> >> >> > at

>> >> >> > the

>> >> >> > part "updating your system, creating cabinets, etc. details says

>> >> >> > Running

>> >> >> > Process Before Install". 5 progress bars come up and that is

>> >> >> > it!!

>> >> >> > But

>> >> >> > there is no error message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks everyone

>> >> >>

>> >> >> .

>> >> >>

>> >> .

>> >>


>> .

>>
 
Actually they are not, Glee did not make any statements ie Mcafee, and also

recommended to scan outside of the operating system, this is not to say use

Mcafee to do the scan, use something else thats better. AVG I think, has the

ability to make a bootable disk, burn the engine to the cd and boot to it,

scan your hd that way.



"LewB" wrote:



> Your thoughts are at some variance from Glee's who says the program should be

> scanned from outside the OS. Any other thoughts from anyone.

> --

> LJB

>

>

> "Michael" wrote:

>

> > CrapAfee is a resource hog that is bottom of the barrel as far as AV is

> > concerned. It's the equivalent of having a screen door on a submarine.

> > Norton is better at catching stuff, but if you don't have a ton of RAM, it

> > also slows your system to a crawl. Download CrapAfee's removal tool, then

> > download Microsoft Security Essentials (my preference). Run CrapAfee's

> > removal, reboot, then install MSE. Your computer will run smoother and

> > you'll be better protected.

> >

> > I'm not a M$ whore. I just like MSE and I've had extensive experience with

> > CrapAfee and Norton.

> >

> > --

> >

> >

> > "Don't pick a fight with an old man.

> > If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

> >

> >

> > "LewB" wrote in message

> > news:096A6A43-643E-45CA-B721-E6F43FA0576B@microsoft.com...

> > > Hi Michael,

> > > Can you expand on McAfee comment. I had Avast for awhile but a lot of

> > > items (viruses, malware) were found on the scans I would manually run and

> > > I

> > > went through a number of programs and never resolved the problem....even

> > > though the computer functioned normally. I was in communication with

> > > Avast

> > > in Germany for weeks via email being advised to run Mawarebytes, HiJack

> > > It,

> > > and other similar malware programs. Finally a computer wise person said

> > > McAfee was available through my cable system (Cox) at no cost so I went

> > > for

> > > it. I have always considered it to be in the same league as Norton, etc.

> > > Is

> > > there some particular problem you have had with McAfee (I know it's a big

> > > program) etc. Thus far I have not had any problems and all of their

> > > automatic scans and those I run manually have been negative. I had to

> > > take

> > > this computer in for some diagnostics recently and the computer geeks

> > > insisted that I had viruses etc. When I brought the machine home and ran

> > > a

> > > McAfee scan no problems were found. I have also been told that the virus

> > > programs/scans can produce false positives. All very confusing and would

> > > appreciate your input....and from others reading this thread. Thanks

> > > Lew

> > > --

> > > LJB

> > >

> > >

> > > "Michael" wrote:

> > >

> > >> LewB do yourself a favor and dump CrapAfee altogether. It's the worst of

> > >> the worst.

> > >>

> > >> --

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.

> > >> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> "LewB" wrote in message

> > >> news:55AB9AB2-1015-4BBB-B8ED-360EF0FAC405@microsoft.com...

> > >> > Your questions are appropriate and I accept guilt for the inertia and

> > >> > delay.

> > >> > But it's never too late and after reading your response and others it

> > >> > finally

> > >> > installed. For others reading this correspondence deactivate your

> > >> > antiviral

> > >> > program...in this instance McAfee.

> > >> > --

> > >> > LJB

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> > >> >

> > >> >> Why wasn't SP3 installed two years ago?

> > >> >>

> > >> >> Are you currently running WinXP SP2?

> > >> >>

> > >> >> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your

> > >> >> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than

> > >> >> Defender)?

> > >> >> What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these applications

> > >> >> running

> > >> >> in the background when you attempted to install SP3?

> > >> >>

> > >> >> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the

> > >> >> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you

> > >> >> bought

> > >> >> it)?

> > >> >>

> > >> >> How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3

> > >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718

> > >> >>

> > >> >> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation

> > >> >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

> > >> >>

> > >> >> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support for WinXP SP3

> > >> >> was

> > >> >> available from 14 April 2008 thru May 2009. Such support will cost

> > >> >> you

> > >> >> US$59 or higher per incident now.

> > >> >>

> > >> >> Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July 2010. After

> > >> >> that

> > >> >> date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered any

> > >> >> further

> > >> >> critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and

> > >> >> Windows

> > >> >> Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.

> > >> >>

> > >> >> What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer supported?

> > >> >> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean

> > >> >> --

> > >> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> > >> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

> > >> >>

> > >> >>

> > >> >> LewB wrote:

> > >> >> > I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program, I used

> > >> >> > the

> > >> >> > express method and the files were downloaded to the computer and

> > >> >> > installation started Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very early on

> > >> >> > at

> > >> >> > the

> > >> >> > part "updating your system, creating cabinets, etc. details says

> > >> >> > Running

> > >> >> > Process Before Install". 5 progress bars come up and that is it!!

> > >> >> > But

> > >> >> > there is no error message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks everyone

> > >> >>

> > >> >> .

> > >> >>

> > >> .

> > >>


> > .

> >
 
Ok I then would appreciate your best suggestion, free or otherwise. The

computer store that did some diagnostics for me said they like Spyseeper

antivirus from Webroot. I had their basic program spyware program for a

number of years before their antivirus program became available. There

should be some consensus of opinion from those of you that follow these

matters closely as to the best two or three or four one should consider.

Thanks.

Lew



--

LJB





"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:



> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:44:11 -0700, LewB

> wrote:

>

> > Finally a computer wise person said

> > McAfee was available through my cable system (Cox) at no cost so I went for

> > it.


>

>

> Ugh! There are several better anti-virus programs available for free:

> Avira, Avast, and Microsoft Security Essentials.

>

>

> > I have always considered it to be in the same league as Norton, etc. I


>

>

> LOL! Yes, it's in *exactly* the same league as Norton. As far as I

> (and many others here) am concerned those are the two worst anti-virus

> programs available.

>

> It's a big shame, as far as I'm concerned. Twenty years or so ago,

> McAfee was the best such program available, Then Norton took over as

> the best. But today, Norton is the worst, and McAfee is second worst.

> What happened to them and why they went from the top to the bottom, I

> don't know.

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> .

>
 
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:17:01 -0700, LewB

wrote:



> Ok I then would appreciate your best suggestion, free or otherwise. The

> computer store that did some diagnostics for me said they like Spyseeper

> antivirus from Webroot. I had their basic program spyware program for a

> number of years before their antivirus program became available. There

> should be some consensus of opinion from those of you that follow these

> matters closely as to the best two or three or four one should consider.

> Thanks.






Here are my recommendations:



Get one of the following anti-virus programs



The best--NOD32



Free and almost as good--Avira, Avast, or Microsoft Security

Essentials (as I said in my last message).



Also get at least the following two anti-spyware programs (both

freeware)--MalwareBytes Anti-Malware and SuperAntiSpyware. Having more

than two is even better, but don't run them at the same time.







> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>

> > On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:44:11 -0700, LewB

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Finally a computer wise person said

> > > McAfee was available through my cable system (Cox) at no cost so I went for

> > > it.


> >

> >

> > Ugh! There are several better anti-virus programs available for free:

> > Avira, Avast, and Microsoft Security Essentials.

> >

> >

> > > I have always considered it to be in the same league as Norton, etc. I


> >

> >

> > LOL! Yes, it's in *exactly* the same league as Norton. As far as I

> > (and many others here) am concerned those are the two worst anti-virus

> > programs available.

> >

> > It's a big shame, as far as I'm concerned. Twenty years or so ago,

> > McAfee was the best such program available, Then Norton took over as

> > the best. But today, Norton is the worst, and McAfee is second worst.

> > What happened to them and why they went from the top to the bottom, I

> > don't know.

> >

> > --

> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> > .

> >




--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
The bootable CD anti-virus I use is the Avira Rescue Disc...there are

others:

http://www.free-av.com/en/products/12/avira_antivir_rescue_system.html



These instructions should be read carefully before beginning:

Tutorial for Avira Rescue CD -

http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=82163



Note there is also an Update button in the program, and if you are

connected online with a permanent broadband connection, it will be able

to update if you select it.



The configuration settings shown in the tutorial have Avira attempt to

repair infected files, and rename if not successful. This is generally

the best option, but I often run it with the 'protocol malware records

only' setting instead, so I can read the resulting log *without* having

fixed anything. That way, if a root kit has infected a critical system

file, I can determine where and how to find a clean replacement file,

and how to go about copying the good file after I do a cleaning by

re-running the Avira Rescue CD with the settings at 'repair or rename'.

Generally I will replace a file using the command line in Recovery

Console.



The Linux-based Avira CD sometimes has a problem running on some

laptops, due to driver issues.



If I slave the drive to another computer, I will run the AV from that

computer on the drive (Avira or Avast or MSE, depending on which system

I connect it to). I will also consider running the Protection Scan

online from OneCare, selecting the slave hard drive:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/howsafe.htm



If doing all that is beyond what you feel comfortable doing, you should

find a competent computer repair technician who will follow these

procedures on your system.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009

A+

http://dts-l.net/





"sgopus" wrote in message

news:41042A08-CD6E-45C8-9F0C-ADA2292E082D@microsoft.com...

> Actually they are not, Glee did not make any statements ie Mcafee, and

> also

> recommended to scan outside of the operating system, this is not to

> say use

> Mcafee to do the scan, use something else thats better. AVG I think,

> has the

> ability to make a bootable disk, burn the engine to the cd and boot to

> it,

> scan your hd that way.

>

> "LewB" wrote:

>

>> Your thoughts are at some variance from Glee's who says the program

>> should be

>> scanned from outside the OS. Any other thoughts from anyone.

>> --

>> LJB

>>

>>

>> "Michael" wrote:

>>

>> > CrapAfee is a resource hog that is bottom of the barrel as far as

>> > AV is

>> > concerned. It's the equivalent of having a screen door on a

>> > submarine.

>> > Norton is better at catching stuff, but if you don't have a ton of

>> > RAM, it

>> > also slows your system to a crawl. Download CrapAfee's removal

>> > tool, then

>> > download Microsoft Security Essentials (my preference). Run

>> > CrapAfee's

>> > removal, reboot, then install MSE. Your computer will run smoother

>> > and

>> > you'll be better protected.

>> >

>> > I'm not a M$ whore. I just like MSE and I've had extensive

>> > experience with

>> > CrapAfee and Norton.

>> >

>> > --

>> >

>> >

>> > "Don't pick a fight with an old man.

>> > If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

>> >

>> >

>> > "LewB" wrote in message

>> > news:096A6A43-643E-45CA-B721-E6F43FA0576B@microsoft.com...

>> > > Hi Michael,

>> > > Can you expand on McAfee comment. I had Avast for awhile but a

>> > > lot of

>> > > items (viruses, malware) were found on the scans I would manually

>> > > run and

>> > > I

>> > > went through a number of programs and never resolved the

>> > > problem....even

>> > > though the computer functioned normally. I was in communication

>> > > with

>> > > Avast

>> > > in Germany for weeks via email being advised to run Mawarebytes,

>> > > HiJack

>> > > It,

>> > > and other similar malware programs. Finally a computer wise

>> > > person said

>> > > McAfee was available through my cable system (Cox) at no cost so

>> > > I went

>> > > for

>> > > it. I have always considered it to be in the same league as

>> > > Norton, etc.

>> > > Is

>> > > there some particular problem you have had with McAfee (I know

>> > > it's a big

>> > > program) etc. Thus far I have not had any problems and all of

>> > > their

>> > > automatic scans and those I run manually have been negative. I

>> > > had to

>> > > take

>> > > this computer in for some diagnostics recently and the computer

>> > > geeks

>> > > insisted that I had viruses etc. When I brought the machine home

>> > > and ran

>> > > a

>> > > McAfee scan no problems were found. I have also been told that

>> > > the virus

>> > > programs/scans can produce false positives. All very confusing

>> > > and would

>> > > appreciate your input....and from others reading this thread.

>> > > Thanks

>> > > Lew

>> > > --

>> > > LJB

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > "Michael" wrote:

>> > >

>> > >> LewB do yourself a favor and dump CrapAfee altogether. It's the

>> > >> worst of

>> > >> the worst.

>> > >>

>> > >> --

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.

>> > >> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

>> > >>

>> > >>

>> > >> "LewB" wrote in message

>> > >> news:55AB9AB2-1015-4BBB-B8ED-360EF0FAC405@microsoft.com...

>> > >> > Your questions are appropriate and I accept guilt for the

>> > >> > inertia and

>> > >> > delay.

>> > >> > But it's never too late and after reading your response and

>> > >> > others it

>> > >> > finally

>> > >> > installed. For others reading this correspondence deactivate

>> > >> > your

>> > >> > antiviral

>> > >> > program...in this instance McAfee.

>> > >> > --

>> > >> > LJB

>> > >> >

>> > >> >

>> > >> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>> > >> >

>> > >> >> Why wasn't SP3 installed two years ago?

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> Are you currently running WinXP SP2?

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed

>> > >> >> and is your

>> > >> >> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other

>> > >> >> than

>> > >> >> Defender)?

>> > >> >> What third-party firewall (if any)? Were any of these

>> > >> >> applications

>> > >> >> running

>> > >> >> in the background when you attempted to install SP3?

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been

>> > >> >> installed on the

>> > >> >> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled

>> > >> >> when you

>> > >> >> bought

>> > >> >> it)?

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> How to troubleshoot an unsuccessful installation of WinXP SP3

>> > >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950718

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful

>> > >> >> installation

>> > >> >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> Free unlimited installation and compatibility support for

>> > >> >> WinXP SP3

>> > >> >> was

>> > >> >> available from 14 April 2008 thru May 2009. Such support

>> > >> >> will cost

>> > >> >> you

>> > >> >> US$59 or higher per incident now.

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> Note: Extended Support for WinXP (x86) SP2 ends on 13 July

>> > >> >> 2010. After

>> > >> >> that

>> > >> >> date, computers running WinXP (x86) SP2 will NOT be offered

>> > >> >> any

>> > >> >> further

>> > >> >> critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not work,

>> > >> >> and

>> > >> >> Windows

>> > >> >> Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> What does it mean if my version of Windows is no longer

>> > >> >> supported?

>> > >> >> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean

>> > >> >> --

>> > >> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>> > >> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> LewB wrote:

>> > >> >> > I', trying to install SP3 for my XP professional program,

>> > >> >> > I used

>> > >> >> > the

>> > >> >> > express method and the files were downloaded to the

>> > >> >> > computer and

>> > >> >> > installation started Wizard. The program gets "stuck" very

>> > >> >> > early on

>> > >> >> > at

>> > >> >> > the

>> > >> >> > part "updating your system, creating cabinets, etc.

>> > >> >> > details says

>> > >> >> > Running

>> > >> >> > Process Before Install". 5 progress bars come up and that

>> > >> >> > is it!!

>> > >> >> > But

>> > >> >> > there is no error message, etc. Just stuck. Thanks

>> > >> >> > everyone

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> .

>> > >> >>

>> > >> .

>> > >>

>> > .

>> >
 
This was Geek Squad at Best Buy, right?



LewB wrote:

> Ok I then would appreciate your best suggestion, free or otherwise. The

> computer store that did some diagnostics for me said they like Spyseeper

> antivirus from Webroot...
 
Gotta be....I can't think of any other crew using that. I was never

impressed with Spysweeper. Their Spysweeper with Antivirus uses the

Sophos AV engine....that's all I know about it. I've never seen their

package reviewed in side by side AV testing.



There are better options.....MSE or Avira, both free AV apps, combined

with MBAM. I would suggest paying the small price for MBAM to gain

resident protection and autoupdating.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009

A+

http://dts-l.net/





"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

news:uo2Ieif1KHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> This was Geek Squad at Best Buy, right?

>

> LewB wrote:

>> Ok I then would appreciate your best suggestion, free or otherwise.

>> The

>> computer store that did some diagnostics for me said they like

>> Spyseeper

>> antivirus from Webroot...
 
Even worse, Geek Squad /never/ runs the Norton or McAfee removal tool after

uninstalling the preinstalled free trial and before installing Webroot AV

with SS.





glee wrote:

> Gotta be....I can't think of any other crew using that. I was never

> impressed with Spysweeper. Their Spysweeper with Antivirus uses the

> Sophos AV engine....that's all I know about it. I've never seen their

> package reviewed in side by side AV testing.

>

> There are better options.....MSE or Avira, both free AV apps, combined

> with MBAM. I would suggest paying the small price for MBAM to gain

> resident protection and autoupdating.

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

> news:uo2Ieif1KHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> This was Geek Squad at Best Buy, right?

>>

>> LewB wrote:

>>> Ok I then would appreciate your best suggestion, free or otherwise.

>>> The

>>> computer store that did some diagnostics for me said they like

>>> Spyseeper

>>> antivirus from Webroot...
 
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