PC TuneUp and CCleaner

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Do you think Twayne will still be around?

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message

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> Unknown wrote:

>> Will registry cleaners be extinct then?

>>


>

>

> Not as long as there are suckers to fall for the bogus claims of the

> unscrupulous hucksters who peddle them.

>

>

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> Bruce Chambers

>

> Help us help you:

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

>

> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary

> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

>

> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand

> Russell

>

> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has

> killed a great many philosophers.

> ~ Denis Diderot
 
> No, it doesn't! When you uninstall a program an uninstall string is

> launched by the uninstaller and a specific uninstall routine is

> launched, often times the application has an install/uninstall log and

> the installer will execute uninstall routines based on these logs or

> based on other such files provided by the application vendor. In

> addition to removing relevant registry entries the uninstaller also

> removes files which were installed when the application was installed,

> this is not restricted to the program's directory, the uninstaller

> will/should also remove any dll or other files which might have been

> created when the program was installed. Registry cleaners do nothing of

> the such, but then none of us here would expect you to know any better,

> you wear blinders and your ignorance in these matters is clearly evident.

>




What you said is "theoretically" true, but in reality, too many poor

programs/applications from well-known or otherwise providers have done a

terrible job on both installation and un-installation routines.



I have been reading this interesting (and ridiculous) argument for some

time and since this newsgroup is closing down, so decided to join for

one last time.



First of all, a registry cleaner should be seen as an "advanced" tool

and shouldn't be used by any person without sufficient computer knowledge.



Secondly, like a solider indiscriminately firing a 50 caliber machine

gun in fully automatic mode, the total causalities of friendly fire must

be devastating, and that's the result of a person without sufficient

computer knowledge trying to use a registry cleaner to "automatically"

solve the problem.



Would people like you think that it's a problem of the machine gun or

the (untrained) person who pulled the trigger?



I don't use any registry cleaner to fix any registry problems, but I do

think the argument of saying all registry cleaner is a snake oil is

unfounded.



Finally, inconsistent registry entries could cause many problems, such

as incorrect program icons, wrong default programs, missing dlls, etc.,

but none of them is associated with *improving performance*, which

shouldn't be the reason for using a registry cleaner in the first place.







On 5/31/2010 10:47 PM, John John - MVP wrote:

> Twayne wrote:

>> In news:%23stfHH0$KHA.3580@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,

>> milt typed:

>>> On 5/24/2010 7:54 PM, Twayne wrote:

>>>> Here's one of your major puppetmasters of this small group

>>>> of closed minds who wish to malign and libel the companies

>>>> that have sold millions of product to many, including

>>>> those who repair computers and make good use of same.

>>>>

>>>>

>>> Anyone who repairs computers and sells people on this

>>> garbage are only doing so in the hopes it trashes the

>>> system so they can go in and fix the damage caused by these

>>> programs.


>>

>> Giving away your secrets, eh? No ethical scrupulouw person would EVER

>> charge a customer for any problems he caused, no matter what it was.

>>

>> Yes, sometimes they work, and yes, they don't

>>> cause harm. However, they do NOTHING to speed up a system


>>

>> Speeding up a system is one of many, many things a cleaner might do. I

>> haven't seen anyone claim that in this thread either.

>>

>>> and when they do screw up. They screw up your system BAD.


>>

>> Nope, just not true unless it's a no-name from junk.com, same as with

>> any other software.

>>

>>> Then of course people like you go on and on about how

>>> wonderful these programs are and how they NEVER do anything

>>> bad so what happens?


>>

>> Those are lies. I never said they were "wonderful" and they inherently

>> do NOT do anything "bad". Your reading comprehension forces you to

>> create lies and misinterpret what was said; you need help.

>>> People blame Microsoft for their problems! When they should

>>> be blaming the snake oil product that screwed up their

>>> registry to begin with!


>>

>> lol, you're maroon for sure. When you unnstall a program, it does

>> EXACTLY what a cleaner would do. Should we stop uninstalling programs?


>

> No, it doesn't! When you uninstall a program an uninstall string is

> launched by the uninstaller and a specific uninstall routine is

> launched, often times the application has an install/uninstall log and

> the installer will execute uninstall routines based on these logs or

> based on other such files provided by the application vendor. In

> addition to removing relevant registry entries the uninstaller also

> removes files which were installed when the application was installed,

> this is not restricted to the program's directory, the uninstaller

> will/should also remove any dll or other files which might have been

> created when the program was installed. Registry cleaners do nothing of

> the such, but then none of us here would expect you to know any better,

> you wear blinders and your ignorance in these matters is clearly evident.

>

> John
 
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