Update fails reply from microsoft

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mikec wrote:
> I went thru the whole uninstall / reinstall process for
> NetFramework 1.1 , installed the SP's and tried to get KB928366.
> Still NO JOY... What Now?


Either don't get it (mark it not to tell you again) or tell us specifically
it is doing.

Error?
Event Log?
Repeating over and over?

Did you manually download the 928366 patch and install it or automatic
updates or web page?

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Shenan, I think you need to chill a bit.

You're coming across quite shrill -- and pedantic -- in this thread.

Alan

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eEI42hYxHHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> mikec wrote:
>> I went thru the whole uninstall / reinstall process for
>> NetFramework 1.1 , installed the SP's and tried to get KB928366.
>> Still NO JOY... What Now?

>
> Either don't get it (mark it not to tell you again) or tell us
> specifically it is doing.
>
> Error?
> Event Log?
> Repeating over and over?
>
> Did you manually download the 928366 patch and install it or automatic
> updates or web page?
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
 
Shenan wrote:
> The 'formatting' went askew...
>
> Let me try to explain the instructions Microsoft gave you in even
> simpler terms...
>
> 1. Download and install this:
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/9/D/E9D80355-7AB4-45B8-80E8-983A48D5E1BD/msicuu2.exe
> 2. Run it (Windows Installer Clean Up) from the start menu
> and look for/remove .NET Framework.
> 3. Reboot.
> 4. Download/install this:
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/a/c/aac39226-8825-44ce-90e3-bf8203e74006/dotnetfx.exe
> 5. Reboot.
> 6. Download/install this:
> http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-bdb8-c4e00af5b94b/NDP1.1sp1-KB867460-X86.exe
> 7. Reboot.
> 8. Download/install this:
> http://www.download.windowsupdate.c..._20112ef50011e0de2c0e3378139245d81a178b15.exe
> 9. Reboot.
>
> Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and scan
> for/install critical updates.
>
> Everything else in there was "just in case". Chances are against the
> "just-in-case" scenarios - and if one of them happens - you can come back
> and ask. All you are doing with this whole process is uninstalling .NET
> Framework 1.1 and reinstalling it. That's it.


mikec wrote:
> I went thru the whole uninstall / reinstall process for
> NetFramework 1.1 , installed the SP's and tried to get KB928366.
> Still NO JOY... What Now?


Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Either don't get it (mark it not to tell you again) or tell us
> specifically it is doing.
>
> Error?
> Event Log?
> Repeating over and over?
>
> Did you manually download the 928366 patch and install it or
> automatic updates or web page?


Alan wrote:
> Shenan, I think you need to chill a bit.
>
> You're coming across quite shrill -- and pedantic -- in this thread.


"MikeC" presented what they had done and I pointed out that beyond the small
blurb about having uninstalled/reinstalled, we knew very little about the
specific predicament. "Still No Joy" tells me very little and "MikeC" has
not posted elsewhere in this thread that I see to know exactly what they are
seeing.

I then proceded to inquire if there was an error... Anything in the Event
Log... Or was the update just repeating over and over. I also asked
specifically how the update was aquired and attempted to be installed.

That's this off-shoot of the thread...

In another part of this thread I tried to point out that not having a backup
plan for your computer is not wise in ANY case - and that this sort of thing
is pretty much a fine example of why it is wise to backup your
computer/files. I even pointed out that backing up did not have to be
complicated by any means.. simply burning a CD/DVD or copying files from one
drive to another could be a backup - if you are doing it periodically and to
the stuff that is actually important to you.

I even tried to simplify (and pull out the excessive material) from the
original post. It seems the email had too many "what ifs" in it to be
easily understood and followed to me - so I thought I might try and assist
and pull out those "what ifs" and just leave the actual steps and explain -
in one sentence - what the solution was actually doing.

I'm sorry if all that seems to make me a pedant in your eyes or if my
repeating (the formatting never seemed to work and I am sorry I posted it
three times without a positive result in that manner) presents my responses
as shrill to you... But they are meant to be helpful.

After all - what's the point of going through something like this and not
even getting any knowledge out of it to help avoid it (or recover more
quickly at the very least) in the future...? And yes - if history (and the
archives of these newsgroups) shows us anything - it is that it *will* be
repeated.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Shenan wrote:
> > The 'formatting' went askew...
> >
> > Let me try to explain the instructions Microsoft gave you in even
> > simpler terms...
> >

I found the info here worked for me. Thanks Chiller.
> > 1. Download and install this:
> > http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/9/D/E9D80355-7AB4-45B8-80E8-983A48D5E1BD/msicuu2.exe
> > 2. Run it (Windows Installer Clean Up) from the start menu
> > and look for/remove .NET Framework.
> > 3. Reboot.
> > 4. Download/install this:
> > http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/a/c/aac39226-8825-44ce-90e3-bf8203e74006/dotnetfx.exe
> > 5. Reboot.
> > 6. Download/install this:
> > http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-bdb8-c4e00af5b94b/NDP1.1sp1-KB867460-X86.exe
> > 7. Reboot.
> > 8. Download/install this:
> > http://www.download.windowsupdate.c..._20112ef50011e0de2c0e3378139245d81a178b15.exe
> > 9. Reboot.
> >
> > Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and scan
> > for/install critical updates.
> >
> > Everything else in there was "just in case". Chances are against the
> > "just-in-case" scenarios - and if one of them happens - you can come back
> > and ask. All you are doing with this whole process is uninstalling .NET
> > Framework 1.1 and reinstalling it. That's it.

>
> mikec wrote:
> > I went thru the whole uninstall / reinstall process for
> > NetFramework 1.1 , installed the SP's and tried to get KB928366.
> > Still NO JOY... What Now?

>
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
> > Either don't get it (mark it not to tell you again) or tell us
> > specifically it is doing.
> >
> > Error?
> > Event Log?
> > Repeating over and over?
> >
> > Did you manually download the 928366 patch and install it or
> > automatic updates or web page?

>
> Alan wrote:
> > Shenan, I think you need to chill a bit.
> >
> > You're coming across quite shrill -- and pedantic -- in this thread.

>
> "MikeC" presented what they had done and I pointed out that beyond the small
> blurb about having uninstalled/reinstalled, we knew very little about the
> specific predicament. "Still No Joy" tells me very little and "MikeC" has
> not posted elsewhere in this thread that I see to know exactly what they are
> seeing.
>
> I then proceded to inquire if there was an error... Anything in the Event
> Log... Or was the update just repeating over and over. I also asked
> specifically how the update was aquired and attempted to be installed.
>
> That's this off-shoot of the thread...
>
> In another part of this thread I tried to point out that not having a backup
> plan for your computer is not wise in ANY case - and that this sort of thing
> is pretty much a fine example of why it is wise to backup your
> computer/files. I even pointed out that backing up did not have to be
> complicated by any means.. simply burning a CD/DVD or copying files from one
> drive to another could be a backup - if you are doing it periodically and to
> the stuff that is actually important to you.
>
> I even tried to simplify (and pull out the excessive material) from the
> original post. It seems the email had too many "what ifs" in it to be
> easily understood and followed to me - so I thought I might try and assist
> and pull out those "what ifs" and just leave the actual steps and explain -
> in one sentence - what the solution was actually doing.
>
> I'm sorry if all that seems to make me a pedant in your eyes or if my
> repeating (the formatting never seemed to work and I am sorry I posted it
> three times without a positive result in that manner) presents my responses
> as shrill to you... But they are meant to be helpful.
>
> After all - what's the point of going through something like this and not
> even getting any knowledge out of it to help avoid it (or recover more
> quickly at the very least) in the future...? And yes - if history (and the
> archives of these newsgroups) shows us anything - it is that it *will* be
> repeated.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>
 
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Let me try to explain the instructions Microsoft gave you in even
> simpler terms...
>
> 1. Download and install this:
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/9/D/E9D80355-7AB4-45B8-80E8-983A48D5E1BD/msicuu2.exe
> 2. Run it (Windows Installer Clean Up) from the start menu
> and look for/remove .NET Framework.
> 3. Reboot.
> 4. Download/install this:
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/a/c/aac39226-8825-44ce-90e3-bf8203e74006/dotnetfx.exe
> 5. Reboot.
> 6. Download/install this:
> http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-bdb8-c4e00af5b94b/NDP1.1sp1-KB867460-X86.exe
> 7. Reboot.
> 8. Download/install this:
> http://www.download.windowsupdate.c..._20112ef50011e0de2c0e3378139245d81a178b15.exe
> 9. Reboot.
>
> Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and scan
> for/install critical updates.


Chiller wrote:
> I found the info here worked for me. Thanks Chiller.


Glad to hear it, Chiller!

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Shenan Stanley wrote:
> > Let me try to explain the instructions Microsoft gave you in even
> > simpler terms...
> >
> > 1. Download and install this:
> > http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/9/D/E9D80355-7AB4-45B8-80E8-983A48D5E1BD/msicuu2.exe
> > 2. Run it (Windows Installer Clean Up) from the start menu
> > and look for/remove .NET Framework.
> > 3. Reboot.
> > 4. Download/install this:
> > http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/a/c/aac39226-8825-44ce-90e3-bf8203e74006/dotnetfx.exe
> > 5. Reboot.
> > 6. Download/install this:
> > http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-bdb8-c4e00af5b94b/NDP1.1sp1-KB867460-X86.exe
> > 7. Reboot.
> > 8. Download/install this:
> > http://www.download.windowsupdate.c..._20112ef50011e0de2c0e3378139245d81a178b15.exe
> > 9. Reboot.
> >
> > Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and scan
> > for/install critical updates.

>
> Chiller wrote:
> > I found the info here worked for me. Thanks Chiller.

>
> Glad to hear it, Chiller!
> I think if we all calm down and go through the instructions step by step all will be solved, Chiller.
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>
 
You may have discovered a fix by now..
If not I did fix mine thanks to Froto.

Download dotnetfx and run it.
I was able to do the updates after that.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ee-a83f-4e21-b05a-009d06457787&displaylang=en



"Don Burnette" wrote:

> I have to wonder, with so many having this problem ( myself included), will
> MS issue an update that actually works? What about all the folks that do not
> even make it to these forums?
> It would not appear to me, they even really tested this update prior to
> releasing it!! What a pain.
> --
> Don
 
Ok I bit the bullet and followed the instruction you posted in simple terms
Shenan .
Everything seemed to go great no error messages and everything came back
stating all the info had been installed . All that being said this is the
final result

1 I still have the yellow sign in my task bar telling me i have updates to
install . When I click on this it tells me I need to insatll KB928367

2 I go Microsoft update page and it shows me that Kb 928367 needs to be
installed

3 I go to add/remove programs in control panel and this is what I have
listed
Microsoft.net framework V1.0.37505
hot fix KB886906
1.1 and 1.1 hotfix 928366
2.0 and 2.0 hotfix 928365
3.0 and hotfix 932471
Any suggestions please and thank you


--
Fran


"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OnMIN1dxHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Let me try to explain the instructions Microsoft gave you in even
>> simpler terms...
>>
>> 1. Download and install this:
>> http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/9/D/E9D80355-7AB4-45B8-80E8-983A48D5E1BD/msicuu2.exe
>> 2. Run it (Windows Installer Clean Up) from the start menu
>> and look for/remove .NET Framework.
>> 3. Reboot.
>> 4. Download/install this:
>> http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/a/c/aac39226-8825-44ce-90e3-bf8203e74006/dotnetfx.exe
>> 5. Reboot.
>> 6. Download/install this:
>> http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-bdb8-c4e00af5b94b/NDP1.1sp1-KB867460-X86.exe
>> 7. Reboot.
>> 8. Download/install this:
>> http://www.download.windowsupdate.c..._20112ef50011e0de2c0e3378139245d81a178b15.exe
>> 9. Reboot.
>>
>> Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and scan
>> for/install critical updates.

>
> Chiller wrote:
>> I found the info here worked for me. Thanks Chiller.

>
> Glad to hear it, Chiller!
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
 
Jim See my reply today to Shenan at 10:38

--
Fran


"Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0F36D45F-8133-49A2-A7A2-9BCAA01A4294@microsoft.com...
> You may have discovered a fix by now..
> If not I did fix mine thanks to Froto.
>
> Download dotnetfx and run it.
> I was able to do the updates after that.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ee-a83f-4e21-b05a-009d06457787&displaylang=en
>
>
>
> "Don Burnette" wrote:
>
>> I have to wonder, with so many having this problem ( myself included),
>> will
>> MS issue an update that actually works? What about all the folks that do
>> not
>> even make it to these forums?
>> It would not appear to me, they even really tested this update prior to
>> releasing it!! What a pain.
>> --
>> Don

>
 
Shenan I for got to tell you I have supposedly downloaded KB928367 several
times with success on my Update history but not recognized on my PC

--
Fran


"Ray &Fran" <foconnor@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:eXVLfwhxHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Ok I bit the bullet and followed the instruction you posted in simple
> terms
> Shenan .
> Everything seemed to go great no error messages and everything came back
> stating all the info had been installed . All that being said this is the
> final result
>
> 1 I still have the yellow sign in my task bar telling me i have updates to
> install . When I click on this it tells me I need to insatll KB928367
>
> 2 I go Microsoft update page and it shows me that Kb 928367 needs to be
> installed
>
> 3 I go to add/remove programs in control panel and this is what I have
> listed
> Microsoft.net framework V1.0.37505
> hot fix KB886906
> 1.1 and 1.1 hotfix 928366
> 2.0 and 2.0 hotfix 928365
> 3.0 and hotfix 932471
> Any suggestions please and thank you
>
>
> --
> Fran
>
>
> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OnMIN1dxHHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>> Let me try to explain the instructions Microsoft gave you in even
>>> simpler terms...
>>>
>>> 1. Download and install this:
>>> http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/9/D/E9D80355-7AB4-45B8-80E8-983A48D5E1BD/msicuu2.exe
>>> 2. Run it (Windows Installer Clean Up) from the start menu
>>> and look for/remove .NET Framework.
>>> 3. Reboot.
>>> 4. Download/install this:
>>> http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/a/c/aac39226-8825-44ce-90e3-bf8203e74006/dotnetfx.exe
>>> 5. Reboot.
>>> 6. Download/install this:
>>> http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-bdb8-c4e00af5b94b/NDP1.1sp1-KB867460-X86.exe
>>> 7. Reboot.
>>> 8. Download/install this:
>>> http://www.download.windowsupdate.c..._20112ef50011e0de2c0e3378139245d81a178b15.exe
>>> 9. Reboot.
>>>
>>> Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and scan
>>> for/install critical updates.

>>
>> Chiller wrote:
>>> I found the info here worked for me. Thanks Chiller.

>>
>> Glad to hear it, Chiller!
>>
>> --
>> Shenan Stanley
>> MS-MVP
>> --
>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>

>
>
>
 
Shenan,
The links you posted are not valid. I get the "page not found" error.

Thanks.


"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> The 'formatting' went askew...
>
> Let me try to explain the instructions Microsoft gave you in even simpler
> terms...
>
> 1. Download and install this:
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/9/D/E9D80355-7AB4-45B8-80E8-983A48D5E1BD/msicuu2.exe2. Run it (Windows Installer Clean Up) from the start menu andlookfor/remove .NET Framework.3. Reboot.4. Download/install this:http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/a/c/aac39226-8825-44ce-90e3-bf8203e74006/dotnetfx.exe5. Reboot.6. Download/install this:http://download.microsoft.com/downl...bdb8-c4e00af5b94b/NDP1.1sp1-KB867460-X86.exe7. Reboot.8. Download/install this:http://www.download.windowsupdate.c...20112ef50011e0de2c0e3378139245d81a178b15.exe9. Reboot.Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and scan for/installcriticalupdates.Everything else in there was "just in case". Chances are against the "justincase" scenarios - and if one of them happens - you can come back and ask.All you are doing with this whole process is uninstalling .NET Framework1.1and reinstalling it. That's it.--Shenan

Stanley MS-MVP--How To Ask Questions The Smart Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
 
Cx wrote:
> Shenan,
> The links you posted are not valid. I get the "page not found"
> error.


As I said - the formatting got messed up and the running together ruined it.
They are valid if you copy manually - but...

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Let me try to explain the instructions Microsoft gave you in even
> simpler terms...
>
> 1. Download and install this:
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/9/D/E9D80355-7AB4-45B8-80E8-983A48D5E1BD/msicuu2.exe
> 2. Run it (Windows Installer Clean Up) from the start menu
> and look for/remove .NET Framework.
> 3. Reboot.
> 4. Download/install this:
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/a/c/aac39226-8825-44ce-90e3-bf8203e74006/dotnetfx.exe
> 5. Reboot.
> 6. Download/install this:
> http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-bdb8-c4e00af5b94b/NDP1.1sp1-KB867460-X86.exe
> 7. Reboot.
> 8. Download/install this:
> http://www.download.windowsupdate.c..._20112ef50011e0de2c0e3378139245d81a178b15.exe
> 9. Reboot.
>
> Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and scan
> for/install critical updates.


Now you don't have to. ;-)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
Fran This fix worked great for me. go to
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...FamilyID=262d25e3-f589-4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3
download this to your desktop and install it it's call dotnetfx. Then go
ahead and install KB928366 like you normally do with the windows update
popup. Thanx to Jim.
Roger


"Ray &Fran" wrote:

> Jim See my reply today to Shenan at 10:38
>
> --
> Fran
>
>
> "Jim" <Jim@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0F36D45F-8133-49A2-A7A2-9BCAA01A4294@microsoft.com...
> > You may have discovered a fix by now..
> > If not I did fix mine thanks to Froto.
> >
> > Download dotnetfx and run it.
> > I was able to do the updates after that.
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ee-a83f-4e21-b05a-009d06457787&displaylang=en
> >
> >
> >
> > "Don Burnette" wrote:
> >
> >> I have to wonder, with so many having this problem ( myself included),
> >> will
> >> MS issue an update that actually works? What about all the folks that do
> >> not
> >> even make it to these forums?
> >> It would not appear to me, they even really tested this update prior to
> >> releasing it!! What a pain.
> >> --
> >> Don

> >

>
>
>
 
Thanx Jim, worked great, only I found this one easier to use.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...FamilyID=262d25e3-f589-4842-8157-034d1e7cf3a3
it's self extracting.
Thanx Again
Roger

"Jim" wrote:

> You may have discovered a fix by now..
> If not I did fix mine thanks to Froto.
>
> Download dotnetfx and run it.
> I was able to do the updates after that.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ee-a83f-4e21-b05a-009d06457787&displaylang=en
>
>
>
> "Don Burnette" wrote:
>
> > I have to wonder, with so many having this problem ( myself included), will
> > MS issue an update that actually works? What about all the folks that do not
> > even make it to these forums?
> > It would not appear to me, they even really tested this update prior to
> > releasing it!! What a pain.
> > --
> > Don

>
 
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