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Exactly Donald... well said! 
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"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:27:05 +0200, Alias <iamalias@removegmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Jim wrote:
>>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> schreef in bericht
>>> news:13044A72-E836-4C66-8EC6-A5166FAC3B6F@microsoft.com...
>>>> For those who are unfamiliar with the Rules of Conduct for the
>>>> Microsoft Newsgroups, here's your opportunity to learn the rules
>>>> of expected, acceptable, and mature behavior when posting.
>>>>
>>>> Rules of conduct:
>>>>
>>>> We hope that you find the time you spend in Microsoft's Community Web
>>>> sites
>>>> to be useful and fun. To ensure that everyone has the best possible
>>>> experience, we've established a few guidelines. Please take a moment to
>>>> read
>>>> them, and thank you for participating in a Microsoft Community.
>>>>
>>>> Expectations of service:
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft's Role:
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft does not offer formal support for the
>>>> communities you'll find here. Instead, our role is to provide a platform
>>>> for
>>>> people who want to take advantage of the global community of Microsoft
>>>> customers and product experts. Microsoft may monitor content to ensure the
>>>> accuracy of the information you'll find, but any information provided by
>>>> Microsoft staff is offered "AS IS" with no warranties, and no rights are
>>>> conferred. You assume all risk for your use.
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft MVPs:
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft MVPs (Most Valuable Professionals) volunteer
>>>> technical answers and expertise in many Microsoft Community Web sites.
>>>> Microsoft MVPs come from a wide range of backgrounds and professions. All
>>>> share a willingness to give their time, expertise, and advice to enhance
>>>> the
>>>> technical skills of others. MVPs are not Microsoft employees and Microsoft
>>>> has no expectations of MVPs beyond the expectations of courtesy,
>>>> professionalism, and adherence to the Community rules that we ask of all
>>>> Microsoft community members. For more information on the MVP program and
>>>> how
>>>> you can become an MVP, see http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/.
>>>>
>>>> Rules of conduct:
>>>>
>>>> Appropriate Language:
>>>>
>>>> The purpose of our communities is to exchange
>>>> technical information and expertise about Microsoft products. Please avoid
>>>> personal attacks, slurs, and profanity in your interactions.
>>>>
>>>> Relevance to Topics:
>>>>
>>>> Please make sure that your postings in discussion
>>>> groups and chats are relevant to the subject at hand. It is normal for
>>>> some
>>>> topics to drift from the stated subject. However, to ensure maximum
>>>> benefit
>>>> for everyone, we encourage you to keep your postings as close to the
>>>> subject
>>>> as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Advertising/Solicitation:
>>>>
>>>> These communities were created as a forum for
>>>> providing peer-to-peer assistance on Microsoft products and services. We
>>>> ask
>>>> that you refrain from posting advertisements or solicitations that do not
>>>> pertain directly to the intended use and purpose of the newsgroup or chat.
>>>>
>>>> Confidentiality:
>>>>
>>>> Please keep in mind that our communities are public spaces,
>>>> so don't post anything that you don't want the world to see. Credit card
>>>> numbers, product keys, and other confidential information, including
>>>> anything
>>>> covered under a non-disclosure agreement (NDA), should not be posted to a
>>>> discussion group, chat, or other community.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Carey,
>>> Thank you for your post. It is obvious that that some posters should be
>>> reminded of the Rules of Conduct. Unfortunately I do not think that your
>>> post will really register with these people.
>>> JimF
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Nor is it applicable to Usenet. It only applies if you use Microsoft's
>>clunky web site to access these groups.
>
> By the way, Microsoft's Usenet rules are pretty-much the EXACT same
> rules most OTHER Usenet servers give their users.
>
> The Usenet itself has a few CONVENTIONS (not rules), such as
> bottom-posting versus top-posting, etc.
>
> The SERVERS themselves are the ones with the RULES, not the Usenet.
>
>>
>>Alias
>
> Tell us, oh "Mighty Internet Maven":
> WHERE do our posts wind up, anyway? Somewhere out on the "Internet",
> there in "cyberspace"? You know, just floating around in the
> "cloud"?
>
> How did they get onto the Usenet? By snail-mail?
>
> I suggest you consider this:
>
> 1) ALL Microsoft Community groups are served by a USENET server,
> "msnews.microsoft.com".
> 2) Whether one uses the Web interface to access them, or a stand-alone
> Usenet client like Forte's Agent, they are STILL being posted to and
> stored on the SAME USENET server, "msnews.microsoft.com".
> 3) If you use a Usenet server OTHER that the Microsoft Usenet server,
> "msnews.microsoft.com", you are NOT accessing the ORIGINAL posts, but
> MIRRORED copies of the originals, which are stored on Microsoft's OWN
> Usenet Server, "msnews.microsoft.com".
>
> Don't like this, friend?
> Tough. That's just the way it is. We don't make the rules, "alias".
>
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
> ================================================
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"Donald L McDaniel" <orthocross@invalid.invalid.com> wrote in message
news:a4a704tnvnvmm6fs6kc32helqlo66fk3rd@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:27:05 +0200, Alias <iamalias@removegmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Jim wrote:
>>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com> schreef in bericht
>>> news:13044A72-E836-4C66-8EC6-A5166FAC3B6F@microsoft.com...
>>>> For those who are unfamiliar with the Rules of Conduct for the
>>>> Microsoft Newsgroups, here's your opportunity to learn the rules
>>>> of expected, acceptable, and mature behavior when posting.
>>>>
>>>> Rules of conduct:
>>>>
>>>> We hope that you find the time you spend in Microsoft's Community Web
>>>> sites
>>>> to be useful and fun. To ensure that everyone has the best possible
>>>> experience, we've established a few guidelines. Please take a moment to
>>>> read
>>>> them, and thank you for participating in a Microsoft Community.
>>>>
>>>> Expectations of service:
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft's Role:
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft does not offer formal support for the
>>>> communities you'll find here. Instead, our role is to provide a platform
>>>> for
>>>> people who want to take advantage of the global community of Microsoft
>>>> customers and product experts. Microsoft may monitor content to ensure the
>>>> accuracy of the information you'll find, but any information provided by
>>>> Microsoft staff is offered "AS IS" with no warranties, and no rights are
>>>> conferred. You assume all risk for your use.
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft MVPs:
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft MVPs (Most Valuable Professionals) volunteer
>>>> technical answers and expertise in many Microsoft Community Web sites.
>>>> Microsoft MVPs come from a wide range of backgrounds and professions. All
>>>> share a willingness to give their time, expertise, and advice to enhance
>>>> the
>>>> technical skills of others. MVPs are not Microsoft employees and Microsoft
>>>> has no expectations of MVPs beyond the expectations of courtesy,
>>>> professionalism, and adherence to the Community rules that we ask of all
>>>> Microsoft community members. For more information on the MVP program and
>>>> how
>>>> you can become an MVP, see http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/.
>>>>
>>>> Rules of conduct:
>>>>
>>>> Appropriate Language:
>>>>
>>>> The purpose of our communities is to exchange
>>>> technical information and expertise about Microsoft products. Please avoid
>>>> personal attacks, slurs, and profanity in your interactions.
>>>>
>>>> Relevance to Topics:
>>>>
>>>> Please make sure that your postings in discussion
>>>> groups and chats are relevant to the subject at hand. It is normal for
>>>> some
>>>> topics to drift from the stated subject. However, to ensure maximum
>>>> benefit
>>>> for everyone, we encourage you to keep your postings as close to the
>>>> subject
>>>> as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Advertising/Solicitation:
>>>>
>>>> These communities were created as a forum for
>>>> providing peer-to-peer assistance on Microsoft products and services. We
>>>> ask
>>>> that you refrain from posting advertisements or solicitations that do not
>>>> pertain directly to the intended use and purpose of the newsgroup or chat.
>>>>
>>>> Confidentiality:
>>>>
>>>> Please keep in mind that our communities are public spaces,
>>>> so don't post anything that you don't want the world to see. Credit card
>>>> numbers, product keys, and other confidential information, including
>>>> anything
>>>> covered under a non-disclosure agreement (NDA), should not be posted to a
>>>> discussion group, chat, or other community.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Carey,
>>> Thank you for your post. It is obvious that that some posters should be
>>> reminded of the Rules of Conduct. Unfortunately I do not think that your
>>> post will really register with these people.
>>> JimF
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Nor is it applicable to Usenet. It only applies if you use Microsoft's
>>clunky web site to access these groups.
>
> By the way, Microsoft's Usenet rules are pretty-much the EXACT same
> rules most OTHER Usenet servers give their users.
>
> The Usenet itself has a few CONVENTIONS (not rules), such as
> bottom-posting versus top-posting, etc.
>
> The SERVERS themselves are the ones with the RULES, not the Usenet.
>
>>
>>Alias
>
> Tell us, oh "Mighty Internet Maven":
> WHERE do our posts wind up, anyway? Somewhere out on the "Internet",
> there in "cyberspace"? You know, just floating around in the
> "cloud"?
>
> How did they get onto the Usenet? By snail-mail?
>
> I suggest you consider this:
>
> 1) ALL Microsoft Community groups are served by a USENET server,
> "msnews.microsoft.com".
> 2) Whether one uses the Web interface to access them, or a stand-alone
> Usenet client like Forte's Agent, they are STILL being posted to and
> stored on the SAME USENET server, "msnews.microsoft.com".
> 3) If you use a Usenet server OTHER that the Microsoft Usenet server,
> "msnews.microsoft.com", you are NOT accessing the ORIGINAL posts, but
> MIRRORED copies of the originals, which are stored on Microsoft's OWN
> Usenet Server, "msnews.microsoft.com".
>
> Don't like this, friend?
> Tough. That's just the way it is. We don't make the rules, "alias".
>
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the correct thread and article.
> ================================================
