>>>>>>>>>>> Reminder Newsgroups EOL <<<<<<<<<<<<<<

[Bert Hyman]

In news:65kq06pa6ehn0gmtk8h1pre1glauhlp8b9@4ax.com Tim Slattery

wrote:



> "Spamlet" wrote:

>

>>Having now discovered eternal-september and found these groups still

>>going there including microsoft.public.outlook, which disappeared from

>>it's usual place yesterday (and prompted my following this thread): do

>>I now need to bother with these 'bridges' at all?

>

> No. The bridges let you access the MS web forums using your

> newsreader. If you're happy with the groups you've found, you don't

> need to worry about them.

>



However, unless someone's going to the trouble of pushing all traffic in

the Web forums out into USENET, nothing that's posted in any of the

forums will show up in any of the microsoft.* newsgroups you'll find in

the outside world. And, nothing you post in any microsoft.* newsgroup in

the outside world will find its way into any forum.



--

Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

 

[Bert Hyman]

In news:65kq06pa6ehn0gmtk8h1pre1glauhlp8b9@4ax.com Tim Slattery

wrote:



> "Spamlet" wrote:

>

>>Having now discovered eternal-september and found these groups still

>>going there including microsoft.public.outlook, which disappeared from

>>it's usual place yesterday (and prompted my following this thread): do

>>I now need to bother with these 'bridges' at all?

>

> No. The bridges let you access the MS web forums using your

> newsreader. If you're happy with the groups you've found, you don't

> need to worry about them.

>



However, unless someone's going to the trouble of pushing all traffic in

the Web forums out into USENET, nothing that's posted in any of the

forums will show up in any of the microsoft.* newsgroups you'll find in

the outside world. And, nothing you post in any microsoft.* newsgroup in

the outside world will find its way into any forum.



--

Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

 

[Jeff Stanton]

OK. I've gotten a Windows Live ID, set up the NNTP Bridge software, selected

the forums I want to work in. Now what? How do I actually receive

information? I seem to be missing something here. (See below)

Jeff





--

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

Richard Feynman

Nobel Prize Physicist

"Bert Hyman" wrote in message

news:Xns9D90BA29A9167VeebleFetzer@207.46.248.16...

> In news:65kq06pa6ehn0gmtk8h1pre1glauhlp8b9@4ax.com Tim Slattery

> wrote:

>

>> "Spamlet" wrote:

>>

>>>Having now discovered eternal-september and found these groups still

>>>going there including microsoft.public.outlook, which disappeared from

>>>it's usual place yesterday (and prompted my following this thread): do

>>>I now need to bother with these 'bridges' at all?

>>

>> No. The bridges let you access the MS web forums using your

>> newsreader. If you're happy with the groups you've found, you don't

>> need to worry about them.

>>

>

> However, unless someone's going to the trouble of pushing all traffic in

> the Web forums out into USENET, nothing that's posted in any of the

> forums will show up in any of the microsoft.* newsgroups you'll find in

> the outside world. And, nothing you post in any microsoft.* newsgroup in

> the outside world will find its way into any forum.

>

> --

> Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

 

[Jeff Stanton]

OK. I've gotten a Windows Live ID, set up the NNTP Bridge software, selected

the forums I want to work in. Now what? How do I actually receive

information? I seem to be missing something here. (See below)

Jeff





--

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"

Richard Feynman

Nobel Prize Physicist

"Bert Hyman" wrote in message

news:Xns9D90BA29A9167VeebleFetzer@207.46.248.16...

> In news:65kq06pa6ehn0gmtk8h1pre1glauhlp8b9@4ax.com Tim Slattery

> wrote:

>

>> "Spamlet" wrote:

>>

>>>Having now discovered eternal-september and found these groups still

>>>going there including microsoft.public.outlook, which disappeared from

>>>it's usual place yesterday (and prompted my following this thread): do

>>>I now need to bother with these 'bridges' at all?

>>

>> No. The bridges let you access the MS web forums using your

>> newsreader. If you're happy with the groups you've found, you don't

>> need to worry about them.

>>

>

> However, unless someone's going to the trouble of pushing all traffic in

> the Web forums out into USENET, nothing that's posted in any of the

> forums will show up in any of the microsoft.* newsgroups you'll find in

> the outside world. And, nothing you post in any microsoft.* newsgroup in

> the outside world will find its way into any forum.

>

> --

> Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

 

[Eddie]

Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] wrote:

--------------



What a charming and eloquent way you put things. And, also the way you

make it 'seem', that you are doing the usenet users a favour. What a

croc of S**T.

Not one person in usenet wants to see it cease, so what you are actually

doing is pissin' people off rather than appeasing them; just like telly

stations, they work the same way.



Stick it!! Mr Public Relations Officer.



Ed

(felt like tossing in two bobs worth.)

 

[Eddie]

Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] wrote:

--------------



What a charming and eloquent way you put things. And, also the way you

make it 'seem', that you are doing the usenet users a favour. What a

croc of S**T.

Not one person in usenet wants to see it cease, so what you are actually

doing is pissin' people off rather than appeasing them; just like telly

stations, they work the same way.



Stick it!! Mr Public Relations Officer.



Ed

(felt like tossing in two bobs worth.)

 

[Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]]

Ed



I am just reposting a Microsoft post a as friendly warning

that msnews.microsoft.com will be going away.



Yes there are other servers that will pick up this group

however there will not be any "Microsoft"

Personal Monitoring them.



This may not mean anything to you, however

I do believe that others would like to have Microsoft's

Feedback on their products.



As with all information you find on usenets groups

you are free to give your opinion and use this information

as you wish.



Have a great day

And thank you for using Microsoft.

Russ



--

Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC

Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz

Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com

BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com





"Eddie" wrote in message

news:eo95rAxBLHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] wrote:

> --------------

>

> What a charming and eloquent way you put things. And, also the way you

> make it 'seem', that you are doing the usenet users a favour. What a croc

> of S**T.

> Not one person in usenet wants to see it cease, so what you are actually

> doing is pissin' people off rather than appeasing them; just like telly

> stations, they work the same way.

>

> Stick it!! Mr Public Relations Officer.

>

> Ed

> (felt like tossing in two bobs worth.)

 

[Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]]

Ed



I am just reposting a Microsoft post a as friendly warning

that msnews.microsoft.com will be going away.



Yes there are other servers that will pick up this group

however there will not be any "Microsoft"

Personal Monitoring them.



This may not mean anything to you, however

I do believe that others would like to have Microsoft's

Feedback on their products.



As with all information you find on usenets groups

you are free to give your opinion and use this information

as you wish.



Have a great day

And thank you for using Microsoft.

Russ



--

Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC

Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz

Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com

BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com





"Eddie" wrote in message

news:eo95rAxBLHA.4308@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] wrote:

> --------------

>

> What a charming and eloquent way you put things. And, also the way you

> make it 'seem', that you are doing the usenet users a favour. What a croc

> of S**T.

> Not one person in usenet wants to see it cease, so what you are actually

> doing is pissin' people off rather than appeasing them; just like telly

> stations, they work the same way.

>

> Stick it!! Mr Public Relations Officer.

>

> Ed

> (felt like tossing in two bobs worth.)

 

[Tim Slattery]

"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" wrote:



>Ed

>

>I am just reposting a Microsoft post a as friendly warning

>that msnews.microsoft.com will be going away.

>

>Yes there are other servers that will pick up this group

>however there will not be any "Microsoft"

>Personal Monitoring them.



So what? There isn't any official Microsoft presence in these groups

anyway. MVPs are volunteers, not MS employees. These groups are, and

always have been, peer-to-peer.



>This may not mean anything to you, however

>I do believe that others would like to have Microsoft's

>Feedback on their products.



This group never gave Microsoft's feedback on anything.



--

Tim Slattery

Slattery_T@bls.gov

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

 

[Tim Slattery]

"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" wrote:



>Ed

>

>I am just reposting a Microsoft post a as friendly warning

>that msnews.microsoft.com will be going away.

>

>Yes there are other servers that will pick up this group

>however there will not be any "Microsoft"

>Personal Monitoring them.



So what? There isn't any official Microsoft presence in these groups

anyway. MVPs are volunteers, not MS employees. These groups are, and

always have been, peer-to-peer.



>This may not mean anything to you, however

>I do believe that others would like to have Microsoft's

>Feedback on their products.



This group never gave Microsoft's feedback on anything.



--

Tim Slattery

Slattery_T@bls.gov

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

 

[AndyM]

> This group never gave Microsoft's feedback on anything.



Would MS have listened?

 

[AndyM]

> This group never gave Microsoft's feedback on anything.



Would MS have listened?

 

[Bert Hyman]

In news:dj3v06hh3e3snu8hr0tdu0l88v24kf67hn@4ax.com Tim Slattery

wrote:



> This group never gave Microsoft's feedback on anything.



That would be true only if nobody at MS ever read anything in this or

any other newsgroup.



If that's the case, MS is as poorly managed as anybody ever might have

imagined.



--

Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

 

[Bert Hyman]

In news:dj3v06hh3e3snu8hr0tdu0l88v24kf67hn@4ax.com Tim Slattery

wrote:



> This group never gave Microsoft's feedback on anything.



That would be true only if nobody at MS ever read anything in this or

any other newsgroup.



If that's the case, MS is as poorly managed as anybody ever might have

imagined.



--

Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

 

[Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]]

My Guess is that Microsoft is Restructuring big time because of the economy

and cutting costs where ever they can

(just like everyone else is)



Russ



--

Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC

Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz

Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com

BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com





"Bert Hyman" wrote in message

news:Xns9D926FC38DAC3VeebleFetzer@207.46.248.16...

> In news:dj3v06hh3e3snu8hr0tdu0l88v24kf67hn@4ax.com Tim Slattery

> wrote:

>

>> This group never gave Microsoft's feedback on anything.

>

> That would be true only if nobody at MS ever read anything in this or

> any other newsgroup.

>

> If that's the case, MS is as poorly managed as anybody ever might have

> imagined.

>

> --

> Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

 

[Russ \(SBITS.Biz\) [SBS-MVP]]

Microsoft "Sometimes" Listens to MVP's



Since we have an Ear of what is going on in the real world

Sometimes they listen and sometimes don't



As far as one thing that they did listen to?



Remember the VISTA Registration every 6 months they wanted to Pull?

MVP's said, OK we will never buy VISTA and never use it.



They stopped, it but the back lash was Deep

(I Loaded VISTA it ran slow so I removed it.)



And Last year they wanted to KILL this NNTP Newsgroups BEFORE a bridge was

created.

We said (MVP's) we would probably not visit the web only interface any more.



That cuts down a lot of information Microsoft can get from the public

unfiltered.



MVP's despite what people call them Most Valuable Pigs And other names.



Really Fight hard for users. We are not force fed Cool-Aid, and we are

involved in products.

(yes Microsoft sometimes doesn't listen, but sometimes they do.)



I'm proud to be a MVP and fight for things to improve products.



Moving everyone to a "Microsoft Forum" may be seen as a "Big Brother"

By some of you, but as you know the squeaky wheel gets the grease...



So Move to the new forum and Squeak away.

(You've already stopped XP from Dying this long. And Dell for still selling

on Downgrade rights)



However Moving to the new format (Via Web or NNTP Bridge)

You will definitely have a "GREATER" chance of being heard there.

than in another forum. ( By some other third party.)



It's best for "ALL" to stick together" there is more Power in 1 big Group

than in 23 small groups)



Does that Help?

Russ



--

Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]

MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC

Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz

BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com





"AndyM" wrote in message

news:huoc3e$kpc$1@speranza.aioe.org...

>> This group never gave Microsoft's feedback on anything.

>

> Would MS have listened?

>

>