Partition Question

In article <#DrCo5qvIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
R. C. White <rc@grandecom.net> wrote:
>
>NOW you can right-click on Drive C: and choose Extend volume. That option
>is greyed out unless the space immediately following the chosen volume is

It's also greyed out of C: is a system or boot volume. However,
you can use the old XP diskpart command line utlitity to do this.

diskpart, list volume, select <volume number> , extend size=whatever
 
"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
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> Hi, Ron.
>
> As Jawade said, use Disk Management, a built-in part of every version of
> Windows starting with Windows 2000. There are several ways to start it;
> my favorite is to just press the Start button, type diskmgmt.msc and press
> Enter. You'll need the Administrator password to get past this point.
>
> In Disk Management, by default you should see the volume list in the top
> of the window and the Graphical View at the bottom; just two ways to look
> at the same information. From this window, we can manage our hard disk
> partitions (and just about any other device that can be assigned a "drive"
> letter, such as a CD/DVD drive, a USB flash drive, etc.). We can create
> and format partitions, name them, assign and reassign letters, and do
> other jobs, too. (While "partition" and "volume" are not truly
> synonymous, they are often used to mean the same thing. In Disk
> Management, click Help | Help Topics | Disk Management Welcome for lots of
> good information that most computer users never get around to learning.)
>
> In your case, if I understand what you've told us so far, you should see
> your Drive C:, followed by the partition that held Kubuntu. That
> partition may now be completely empty, but it is not yet "Free Space"
> because it is still a part of that empty partition. If that's correct,
> then right-click on the Kubuntu partition and click Delete Volume and
> confirm that you are sure. You should then see that area as Free Space.
>
> NOW you can right-click on Drive C: and choose Extend volume. That option
> is greyed out unless the space immediately following the chosen volume is
> free, but it should now be available.
>
> If you don't see what I expect, please post back with details about what
> volumes are on that hard drive.
>
It would obviously need to be formatted first.
Otherwise the unallocated space would be unavailiable to Vista ... or
ubuntu... for that matter.

I suspect you have read about this....but are otherwise clueless.
 
I notice you find me correct, but are ashamed to admit it ?
You can also use the Vista disk to accomplish the same thing.... you would
follow the installation , accept terms, choose not to validate, select your
version, then 3 commands would get you there.
But I see the know it alls have arrived.

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"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
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> In article <#DrCo5qvIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
> R. C. White <rc@grandecom.net> wrote:
>>
>>NOW you can right-click on Drive C: and choose Extend volume. That option
>>is greyed out unless the space immediately following the chosen volume is
>
> It's also greyed out of C: is a system or boot volume. However,
> you can use the old XP diskpart command line utlitity to do this.
>
> diskpart, list volume, select <volume number> , extend size=whatever
>
>
>
>
 
shift F10
Diskpart
List disk
Select disk ?
list volume
select volume ?
ring a bell yet, or are you new at this?

--
Hobbes
Tiger Extraordinaire/ TDTK, QZ,MissAK
"Hobbes" <Hobbes@Calvins.lol> wrote in message news:g1ct5d$233$1@aioe.org...
>I notice you find me correct, but are ashamed to admit it ?
> You can also use the Vista disk to accomplish the same thing.... you would
> follow the installation , accept terms, choose not to validate, select
> your version, then 3 commands would get you there.
> But I see the know it alls have arrived.
>
> --
> Tiger ExtraOrdinaire / KP / MissAK
> "the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:g1csl1$3i1$1@reader2.panix.com...
>> In article <#DrCo5qvIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
>> R. C. White <rc@grandecom.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>NOW you can right-click on Drive C: and choose Extend volume. That
>>>option
>>>is greyed out unless the space immediately following the chosen volume is
>>
>> It's also greyed out of C: is a system or boot volume. However,
>> you can use the old XP diskpart command line utlitity to do this.
>>
>> diskpart, list volume, select <volume number> , extend size=whatever
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
 
"Ron K." wrote:
> I've never had to deal with Parttions before so forgive my ignorance....
>
> I am using Vitsa Home Premium and decided to dual boot with Kubuntu
> which I absolutely hated. I removed Kubuntu by deleting the partition
> then restoring the boot manager for Vista.
>
> The partition that contained Kubuntu is now empty. I would like to
> merge the partition back into Vista. How do I do this?


Anyone futzing with Vista partitions - whether deleting, adding, extending,
whatever - should read this: http://www.multibooters.co.uk/partitions.html
If you have an entire weekend (or more) to spend reading, read the entire
website: http://www.multibooters.co.uk/ The bottom line is "Don't mix
partitioning utilites - use either all Vista, or all XP/Linux/previous
utilities".
If you're going to be doing a lot of partition manipulation, it might be
better to re-install Vista in a partition that you created with another utility
and thereafter use that utility (or others) to manage your partitions.

*TimDaniels*
 
Dude ... you got a thread of wrong answers...as my first statement
said....you can make that space a partition with a new drive letter ( or as
a folder within the C drive) .... but these morons will continue guessing
all day.
I have done the same thing, and reinstalled everything to get the partition
layout I wanted.
Third party partitioners may do better...I don't know.

--
Hobbes
Tiger Extraordinaire/ TDTK, QZ,MissAK
"Ron K." <RonK@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I've never had to deal with Parttions before so forgive my ignorance....
>
> I am using Vitsa Home Premium and decided to dual boot with Kubuntu which
> I
> absolutely hated. I removed Kubuntu by deleting the partition then
> restoring
> the boot manager for Vista.
>
> The partition that contained Kubuntu is now empty. I would like to merge
> the
> partition back into Vista. How do I do this?
>
>
 
the wharf rat <wrat@panix.com> schreef in bericht
news:g1csbr$l67$1@reader2.panix.com...

> In article <MPG.22a3fe58bfcc334e989884@news.microsoft.com>,
> Jawade <Henk_Jawade@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Believe me, it's possible.
> >
>
> How? I'm under the distinct impression that you can't extend
> the boot volume.

You need free space directly on the right from the systempartition.
Rightclick on the systempartition and choose Extend Volume.
 
On Sun, 25 May 2008 23:22:35 +0000 (UTC), wrat@panix.com (the wharf
rat) wrote:

>In article <MPG.22a3fe58bfcc334e989884@news.microsoft.com>,
>Jawade <Henk_Jawade@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Believe me, it's possible.
>>
>
> How? I'm under the distinct impression that you can't extend
>the boot volume.

You can with third party tools like Partition Magic, but anyone that
attempts any such thing using the crap Windows includes is crazy and
would be asking for trouble. Windows is as good with file handling as
it is with graphics. HORRIBLE! Don't trust it. NEVER!
 
Isn't everything to the right of the boot partition ?
The "boot" partition is first.
That's what makes it the boot partition....or does it read your pics folder,
and say...no , let me move on to the boot partition.
To the right? ? half of the disk space is always to the left.

--
Hobbes
Tiger Extraordinaire/ TDTK, QZ,MissAK
"Barry" <bw@v.ssss> wrote in message
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> the wharf rat <wrat@panix.com> schreef in bericht
> news:g1csbr$l67$1@reader2.panix.com...
>
>> In article <MPG.22a3fe58bfcc334e989884@news.microsoft.com>,
>> Jawade <Henk_Jawade@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Believe me, it's possible.
>> >
>>
>> How? I'm under the distinct impression that you can't extend
>> the boot volume.
>
> You need free space directly on the right from the systempartition.
> Rightclick on the systempartition and choose Extend Volume.
>
 
In article <#KLVKWtvIHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, Barry <bw@v.ssss> wrote:
>the wharf rat <wrat@panix.com> schreef in bericht
>
>You need free space directly on the right from the systempartition.
>Rightclick on the systempartition and choose Extend Volume.
>

Extend is greyed out for the system partition.
 
Excellent observation.
More are to follow, I assume.
Maybe if he flips the HD over....the boot sector will end up on the right ?
Or the left.
i think the boot sector should be right , left, right left....7200times per
minute.

--
Hobbes
Tiger Extraordinaire/ TDTK, QZ,MissAK
"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
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> In article <#KLVKWtvIHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, Barry <bw@v.ssss>
> wrote:
>>the wharf rat <wrat@panix.com> schreef in bericht
>>
>>You need free space directly on the right from the systempartition.
>>Rightclick on the systempartition and choose Extend Volume.
>>
>
> Extend is greyed out for the system partition.
>
>
 
On Sun, 25 May 2008 23:05:15 -0400, "Hobbes" <Hobbes@Calvins.lol>
wrote:

>Excellent observation.
>More are to follow, I assume.
>Maybe if he flips the HD over....the boot sector will end up on the right ?
>Or the left.
>i think the boot sector should be right , left, right left....7200times per
>minute.

Well I just looked at my configuration under hard disk management.
I have one large 750 GB drive making two partitions C and E with C
being the system partition. NOTHING appears in the left column, ie,
the C partition can not be extended nor can the E partition be shrunk
according to what the screen shows, in spite of it saying it can be
extended. It shows as an option, but it is grayed out.

While I didn't upgrade to the latest version of Partition Magic that
supports Vista, I'm very familiar how it worked under XP. You simply
move a slider back and forth. So in the above example I could take
free space (allocated but not yet used) from my E partition and thus
make C larger. I could make C smaller by taking away unused free space
in the system partition, which would automatically be given to the E
partition. If I had any unallocated space (free space on the physical
drive but not yet assigned to any partition) that could be given to
either or divided between them or make more partitions. The whole
process was transparent and idiot proof.

The term "idiot proof" does not apply to morons like Frank. He can't
wipe his ass by himself. He always forgets which hand to use and often
fails to use toilet paper.
 
In article <dbak34teiv63b56p7a2vcp521bdfu7fnri@4ax.com>,
Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:
>
>While I didn't upgrade to the latest version of Partition Magic that
>supports Vista, I'm very familiar how it worked under XP. You simply
>move a slider back and forth. So in the above example I could take
>free space (allocated but not yet used) from my E partition and thus
>make C larger. I could make C smaller by taking away unused free space

Disk managament on windows doesn't work quite the same way. If
you have a basic volume you can only extend it using free space on
the same disc. So in your case you'd need to shrink or delete D then
extend C. (Provided that C isn't a boot or system volume.) If you
have a dynamic volume you can extend it with space from any disc, but
the space still has to be free first.
 
Oh... they mean left/ right as in columns.
I thought they meant to the right on the "physical disk".
I have tried many times....Vista will let you shrink the boot partition ,
but not extend it.
But I have Home Premium ... from what I understand, Ultimate will allow data
striping.mirroring....which I cannot do thru Home Premium.
So whether or not having Ultimate allows greater control over Disk
Management...I don't know.
I KNOW Home Premium will not allow one to Extend the Boot Partition....Even
if the extra space never held any data or partition.
In home premium, the initial partition for the install seems to set a max
for that partition.
You can make an extended partition in a folder on C:----but you can not
increase the size of the primary C: drive.

--
Hobbes
Tiger Extraordinaire/ TDTK, QZ,MissAK
"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 May 2008 23:05:15 -0400, "Hobbes" <Hobbes@Calvins.lol>
> wrote:
>
>>Excellent observation.
>>More are to follow, I assume.
>>Maybe if he flips the HD over....the boot sector will end up on the right
>>?
>>Or the left.
>>i think the boot sector should be right , left, right left....7200times
>>per
>>minute.
>
> Well I just looked at my configuration under hard disk management.
> I have one large 750 GB drive making two partitions C and E with C
> being the system partition. NOTHING appears in the left column, ie,
> the C partition can not be extended nor can the E partition be shrunk
> according to what the screen shows, in spite of it saying it can be
> extended. It shows as an option, but it is grayed out.
>
> While I didn't upgrade to the latest version of Partition Magic that
> supports Vista, I'm very familiar how it worked under XP. You simply
> move a slider back and forth. So in the above example I could take
> free space (allocated but not yet used) from my E partition and thus
> make C larger. I could make C smaller by taking away unused free space
> in the system partition, which would automatically be given to the E
> partition. If I had any unallocated space (free space on the physical
> drive but not yet assigned to any partition) that could be given to
> either or divided between them or make more partitions. The whole
> process was transparent and idiot proof.
>
> The term "idiot proof" does not apply to morons like Frank. He can't
> wipe his ass by himself. He always forgets which hand to use and often
> fails to use toilet paper.
>
 
Home Premium doesn't natively support dynamic disk...only basic disk.
You cannot stripe / mirror with Vista HP without an outside RAID driver.

--
Hobbes
Tiger Extraordinaire/ TDTK, QZ,MissAK
"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
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> In article <dbak34teiv63b56p7a2vcp521bdfu7fnri@4ax.com>,
> Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:
>>
>>While I didn't upgrade to the latest version of Partition Magic that
>>supports Vista, I'm very familiar how it worked under XP. You simply
>>move a slider back and forth. So in the above example I could take
>>free space (allocated but not yet used) from my E partition and thus
>>make C larger. I could make C smaller by taking away unused free space
>
> Disk managament on windows doesn't work quite the same way. If
> you have a basic volume you can only extend it using free space on
> the same disc. So in your case you'd need to shrink or delete D then
> extend C. (Provided that C isn't a boot or system volume.) If you
> have a dynamic volume you can extend it with space from any disc, but
> the space still has to be free first.
>
>
 
In article <g1d93k$gek$1@reader2.panix.com>, the wharf rat <wrat@panix.com> says...
> In article <#KLVKWtvIHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, Barry <bw@v.ssss> wrote:
> >the wharf rat <wrat@panix.com> schreef in bericht
> >
> >You need free space directly on the right from the systempartition.
> >Rightclick on the systempartition and choose Extend Volume.
>
> Extend is greyed out for the system partition.

For a test, I did it. The drive had have 4 partitions. First the
Vista systempartition, about 20 GB, second a Linuxpartition, 10 GB
and a swap-partition, 1GB, and a data partition, 1GB. With drive-
management I removed the 10 GB Linuxpartition, behind the system-
partition. I rightclicked on the systempartition and choose extend
volume. No problem at all.

--
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http://jawade.nl/ Met een mirror op http://jawade.fortunecity.com/
Bootmanager (+Vista +Linux), ClrMBR, DiskEdit (+Linux), POP3lezer,
DOS-Filebrowser, Kalender, Webtellers en IP-log, USB-stick tester.
 
In article <MPG.22a45cb6b8dbecf1989885@news.microsoft.com>,
Jawade <Henk_Jawade@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>For a test, I did it. The drive had have 4 partitions. First the

It's greyed out for me. Which Vista are you running?
Are you using basic or dynamic volumes?
 
On Mon, 26 May 2008 06:36:32 +0200, Jawade <Henk_Jawade@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <g1d93k$gek$1@reader2.panix.com>, the wharf rat <wrat@panix.com> says...
>> In article <#KLVKWtvIHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, Barry <bw@v.ssss> wrote:
>> >the wharf rat <wrat@panix.com> schreef in bericht
>> >
>> >You need free space directly on the right from the systempartition.
>> >Rightclick on the systempartition and choose Extend Volume.
>>
>> Extend is greyed out for the system partition.
>
>For a test, I did it. The drive had have 4 partitions. First the
>Vista systempartition, about 20 GB, second a Linuxpartition, 10 GB
>and a swap-partition, 1GB, and a data partition, 1GB. With drive-
>management I removed the 10 GB Linuxpartition, behind the system-
>partition. I rightclicked on the systempartition and choose extend
>volume. No problem at all.

COOL!

And I just popped $25 for Acronis Disk Director Suite (but it can do a
lot more)!
 
In article <g1dffe$i3r$1@reader2.panix.com>, the wharf rat <wrat@panix.com> says...
> In article <MPG.22a45cb6b8dbecf1989885@news.microsoft.com>,
> Jawade <Henk_Jawade@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >For a test, I did it. The drive had have 4 partitions. First the
>
> It's greyed out for me. Which Vista are you running?
> Are you using basic or dynamic volumes?

I use Ultimate and basic volumes.

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Met vriendelijke groeten, Jawade. BackUp-progje weer vernieuwd.
http://jawade.nl/ Met een mirror op http://jawade.fortunecity.com/
Bootmanager (+Vista +Linux), ClrMBR, DiskEdit (+Linux), POP3lezer,
DOS-Filebrowser, Kalender, Webtellers en IP-log, USB-stick tester.
 
In article <g1dffe$i3r$1@reader2.panix.com>,
the wharf rat <wrat@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <MPG.22a45cb6b8dbecf1989885@news.microsoft.com>,
>Jawade <Henk_Jawade@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>For a test, I did it. The drive had have 4 partitions. First the
>
> It's greyed out for me. Which Vista are you running?
>Are you using basic or dynamic volumes?
>

Looks like Jawade is right! The trick is...

C: CANNOT be a dynamic volume. (You'd think it should be the other
way around, right?)

and

The target free space MUST be adjacent to the existing C:.

This does indeed work with Home Premium.

Thanks, Jawade. Sorry I doubted you :-)
 
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