Nigeria Favors Mandriva Over Microsoft Once More

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Alias the Clucker wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Alias the Clucker wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> RobDee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23AzqqjwIIHA.2480@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> RobDee wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:fh2a5a$h1d$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>> RobDee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Alan Hedgewick" <ahedgewick@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:OGVLH4vIIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20071109/tc_pcworld/139480;_ylt=AlarGDmOZuPv
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> d0cemmFwuyas0NUE
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wow! If its good enough for Nigeria.........
>>>>>>>>> ...................I don't want it. Maybe they make a special
>>>>>>>>> edition with free scamming tools?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My, another Wintard who thinks that all Nigerians are scammers
>>>>>>>> and thinks he is being cute and clever by revealing his bigotry.
>>>>>>>> If you don't want anything from Nigeria, you better stop using
>>>>>>>> your car.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What they also make Mercedes in Nigeria? No wonder the tyres were
>>>>>>> muddy when I went to pick it up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See if
>>>>>>>> you can figure that one out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't figure it out. How surprising.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I will have to bow to your superior knowledge of third world
>>>>> countries - only don't tell me its anything to do with the fuel - I
>>>>> don't get mine from Nigeria.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Really? How do you know? Oil isn't the only natural resource that
>>>> Nigeria has. Besides, you're still obviously a bigot. Most Internet
>>>> scams originate in California, btw.
>>>>
>>>
>>> <Show some kind of proof that you know what you're talking about,
>>> when it comes to California. I guess you didn't see Dateline NBC
>>> about identity theft scams and how they tracked it to where
>>> merchandise and the money was going back to when things were rolling
>>> in -- Nigeria. The other natural resource that Nigeria has is
>>> sophisticated scam artists. Alias you're so full of $hit, and you are
>>> an expert's expert on everything.>
>>
>> The so-called Nigerian scams are small potatoes. Here's big potatoes,
>> originating from California:
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139507-c,cybercrime/article.html
>>
>> Here's another one, from NYC:
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9046159&intsrc=hm_list
>>
>>
>> California has been the fraud center of the world for decades,
>> followed by Florida and New York. Course, the biggest "legal" fraud
>> center, bar none, is located at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington,
>> D.C., USA.
>>
>
> <None of this backs up your claim. And you don't know what you're
> talking about when it comes to the White House either. You're pathetic.
> You'll do good to keep an eye Spain.>

No fraud from Washington? LOL! Once again, you prove how idiotic and ill
informed you are. WMD. Oil (Hugo Chavez gives his thanks to Bush for
making him a multi billionaire and so does Exxon, BP, Shell and the
boys). Secret wiretaps. All of this *defrauds* the American public and
the whole world for that matter.

I read those articles. Where does it say the fraud did not originate in
California and New York? This should be good.

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Alias

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forty-nine wrote:
> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message
> news:u6Qjje%23IIHA.5468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> forty-nine wrote:
>>> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23pxg$X6IIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> forty-nine wrote:
>>>>> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OIqZWC6IIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:OGzEQFyIIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
>>>>>>>>> My understanding is 11,000 out of the 100,000 systems will get
>>>>>>>>> Mandriva Linux. So, a significant portion is still going to
>>>>>>>>> Windows. A lot of persons in the country seem to still be
>>>>>>>>> swaying towards Windows regardless of the Mandriva deal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Its another MS stinker. Linux gets the deal so lets drop our
>>>>>>>> prices.
>>>>>>>> In any other industry it would be called dumping.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So an OS that is free must be the ultimate in dumping then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dumping is where you sell below cost price.
>>>>>>> The cost price of an OS license is close to zero so unless M$
>>>>>>> give it away they are not dumping.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No in business it is dumping. Linux in itself is not a business.
>>>>>> There
>>>>
>>>>>> to. They don't cut their price to undercut MS.
>>>>>> So then it MS's cost is close to zero why do we have to pay so
>>>>>> much for it?
>>>>>> So MS is either dumping or gouging.
>>>>>> caver1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So what's it called when you sell a "free" product ?
>>>>> Gouging ?
>>>>> Scamming?
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux wants to play big business, but doesn't like the game ?
>>>>> Boohoo
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Linux is not sold. Some services are sold or programs that are built
>>>> for Linux are sold.
>>>> the open source portion is never sold.
>>>> If you look at the Nigerian debacle MS wasn't making the deal with
>>>> the Nigerian gov't it was making the deal with the supplier. The
>>>> Nigerian gov't had to step in and say no our contract was for
>>>> Mandriva. So MS was even trying to slip it in under the table.
>>>> caver1
>>>
>>>
>>> But as luck would have it, XP disc have the ability to format HD's.
>>> Clever devices, computers are.
>>> What is shipped on a PC doesn't have to remain on a PC.
>>
>>
>>
>> Which is true. The reverse is also true.
>> Contracts are binding.
>> caver1
>
>
> Contract ?
> You mean a service contract...that unless specified doesn't prevent
> overwriting linux with windows.
> They would simply not contact Mandriva for tech help (why would they).
>
> A quote from the article :
> The organization reserves the right to choose whichever platform is best
> for Nigerian students, which could also include Microsoft's software in
> the future, said the official.
>
> Unless you are privy to the details of the contract, the above quote
> implies the contract in no way "binds" the OS to the computers.
>
> I have a license agreement with Microsoft...in no way am I "bound" to
> have it installed.
>



If you would read further on the subjevt you would
find that is was MS bribing the supplier to wipe
the drives and install MS. When the gov't found
out they stepped in and said no way.
t is very unethical, on MS's part, to wipe
someones harddrive and replace it with something
else without their knowledge. It is bordering on
illegal on the suppliers part.
caver1
 
Stephan Rose wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:44:39 -0500, Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
>
>> My understanding is 11,000 out of the 100,000 systems will get Mandriva
>> Linux. So, a significant portion is still going to Windows. A lot of
>> persons in the country seem to still be swaying towards Windows
>> regardless of the Mandriva deal.
>
> Don't know, I think the remaining operating system choice is up in the
> air and not defined for the remaining units.
>
> Reason being, it states "is expected to eventually ship more than 100,000
> of the computers".
>
> So reads to me more like they are shipping 11,000 units now and more
> later. Not unlikely that the additional units would have the same OS as
> the first 11k, whatever it will end up being.
>
The first 11,000 are test units. If they like
them then the rest will ship with the same OS.
MS is even scared to let someone test Linux and
then decide.
caver1
 
Alias wrote:
> Alias the Clucker wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Alias the Clucker wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> RobDee wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23AzqqjwIIHA.2480@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> RobDee wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailshoes.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:fh2a5a$h1d$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>> RobDee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Alan Hedgewick" <ahedgewick@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:OGVLH4vIIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20071109/tc_pcworld/139480;_ylt=AlarGDmOZuPv
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> d0cemmFwuyas0NUE
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wow! If its good enough for Nigeria.........
>>>>>>>>>> ...................I don't want it. Maybe they make a special
>>>>>>>>>> edition with free scamming tools?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My, another Wintard who thinks that all Nigerians are scammers
>>>>>>>>> and thinks he is being cute and clever by revealing his
>>>>>>>>> bigotry. If you don't want anything from Nigeria, you better
>>>>>>>>> stop using your car.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What they also make Mercedes in Nigeria? No wonder the tyres
>>>>>>>> were muddy when I went to pick it up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See if
>>>>>>>>> you can figure that one out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can't figure it out. How surprising.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I will have to bow to your superior knowledge of third world
>>>>>> countries - only don't tell me its anything to do with the fuel -
>>>>>> I don't get mine from Nigeria.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? How do you know? Oil isn't the only natural resource that
>>>>> Nigeria has. Besides, you're still obviously a bigot. Most Internet
>>>>> scams originate in California, btw.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <Show some kind of proof that you know what you're talking about,
>>>> when it comes to California. I guess you didn't see Dateline NBC
>>>> about identity theft scams and how they tracked it to where
>>>> merchandise and the money was going back to when things were rolling
>>>> in -- Nigeria. The other natural resource that Nigeria has is
>>>> sophisticated scam artists. Alias you're so full of $hit, and you
>>>> are an expert's expert on everything.>
>>>
>>> The so-called Nigerian scams are small potatoes. Here's big potatoes,
>>> originating from California:
>>>
>>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139507-c,cybercrime/article.html
>>>
>>> Here's another one, from NYC:
>>>
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9046159&intsrc=hm_list
>>>
>>>
>>> California has been the fraud center of the world for decades,
>>> followed by Florida and New York. Course, the biggest "legal" fraud
>>> center, bar none, is located at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington,
>>> D.C., USA.
>>>
>>
>> <None of this backs up your claim. And you don't know what you're
>> talking about when it comes to the White House either. You're
>> pathetic. You'll do good to keep an eye Spain.>
>
> No fraud from Washington? LOL! Once again, you prove how idiotic and ill
> informed you are. WMD. Oil (Hugo Chavez gives his thanks to Bush for
> making him a multi billionaire and so does Exxon, BP, Shell and the
> boys). Secret wiretaps. All of this *defrauds* the American public and
> the whole world for that matter.
>
> I read those articles. Where does it say the fraud did not originate in
> California and New York? This should be good.
>

<You can stop blabbering now, because you're no expert on anything. You
may think you're some kind of Super Woman Clucker after you take a hit,
but the reality is that you put you panties on one leg at a time. You
don't have your finger on the pulse of anything, just like you didn't
have your finger pointing correct on the Frank chase, Sherlock-ett.>
 
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:07:20 -0500, caver1 wrote:

> Stephan Rose wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:44:39 -0500, Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
>>
>>> My understanding is 11,000 out of the 100,000 systems will get
>>> Mandriva Linux. So, a significant portion is still going to Windows. A
>>> lot of persons in the country seem to still be swaying towards Windows
>>> regardless of the Mandriva deal.
>>
>> Don't know, I think the remaining operating system choice is up in the
>> air and not defined for the remaining units.
>>
>> Reason being, it states "is expected to eventually ship more than
>> 100,000 of the computers".
>>
>> So reads to me more like they are shipping 11,000 units now and more
>> later. Not unlikely that the additional units would have the same OS as
>> the first 11k, whatever it will end up being.
>>
> The first 11,000 are test units. If they like
> them then the rest will ship with the same OS. MS is even scared to let
> someone test Linux and then decide.
> caver1

Not surprisingly. 100k licenses is a lot, even for a company the size of
Microsoft. They aren't about to just give that up without a fight.

And I don't know if "scared" would be the correct term to use. But I can
see why Microsoft might be worried they aren't going to get that 100k
license contract.

It can be argued back and forth all day if Linux is ready or not for
mainstream. I personally even will say that for some cases it is, in
others it is not, largely depending on the users needs.

Now, how complex are the needs of a kid in elementary school? Not very.
The needs are going to probably revolve around some basic text editing,
educational games / software, things of that nature. Simple stuff.
Microsoft Office would actually already be beyond overkill and in my
opinion far too complex for the target audience, as well as a complex
Operating system such as Vista. But I suppose they could randomly click
around minesweeper. People can try to call Windows simple all they like,
try to put it into a hands of a little kid and see what happens.

Personally, I too find Linux in cases like this to be far more
appropriate than windows. Simply because it can be simplified down to a
level where a kid that age can actually *use* it without breaking it.

If I had to set up a PC for school kids like that, I'd just grab
Edubuntu, install it, create a non-privileged account...done. It'd not be
possible to do any damage to the system from the account, it'd have
access to all sorts of little educational software, games, and the
like...perfect.

Now Windows? Let's see...I could install Vista, Vista, Vista, or Vista.
Maybe if I'm lucky XP. Even if I create a non-privileged account, it's
still only marginally protected in comparison. UAC prompts don't protect
from the damage a kid can do randomly clicking on things to see what they
do. And software-wise, there is wordpad, calculator, minesweeper and
SOLITAIRE!!! YAY!!!!

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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