It is a special day today

[Rabbit]

Much to your chagrin, Mr Foldes would likely tell "anyone" about his line of
business - except YOU!

Why, in gods name, would you comment on something that someone said in
another forum/news group - without referencing the original text at the time
of YOUR comment? We are not mind readers, nor do we frequent the places
where you hang out - on purpose I may add.

Maybe you really do need that med!


"~BD~" wrote in message
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>
> "none" wrote in message
> news:uRVl4MKZJHA.1532@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> "Peter Foldes" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u2PeUW4YJHA.1532@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Most if not all Englishmen are extremely bright but when a
>>>>>>> Englishman is stupid then he is really stupid. This one takes after
>>>>>>> Chamberlain. Nuf said
>>
>> Now you are challenging people on things they have never said. Take a
>> pill and calm down for heavens sake.
>
>
> Maybe there was too much for you to read through, Richard!
>
> See what Andrew Taylor said, here: news:494ee9a3@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>
> I've been asking Mr Foldes to say a few words about the kind of business
> he's in for nearly three years, but he's *very* secretive about it. Maybe
> he'll tell *you* if you ask him!
>
> If it's Kosher, that's fine. I'm only concerned with bad guys!

>
> Have a great Christmas and may God bless you.
>
> Dave
>

 

[David H. Lipman]

From: "~BD~"

| It need be of no concern to you, Mr Adare. Just do not read the
| messages!

| Perhaps you are irritable because

| a) You are still far from home so close to Christmas, or

|

Once again you cannot sleep and are posting in the middle of the
| night

| (You never did tell me what time it would be in Canada at the time of
| your post(s) - today's being at 0845 GMT)

| To any of the good guys reading here (most of you I'm sure of that!) I
| wish you and your families a very Happy Christmas and a peaceful 2009.

| Dave


Paul is correct !

Real discussions don't belong in a tests groups and this CERTAINLY is Off Topic in;
microsoft.public.security and microsoft.public.security.virus

Stop abusing the News Service !

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

 

[BurfordTJustice]

Now you are on record.

"~BD~" wrote in message
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"BurfordTJustice" wrote in message
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>
> "~BD~" wrote in message
> news:%23JmEw$FZJHA.4456@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> Would you care to explain? Why you are a Cyber Thief.
>
> Dave
>
>

Cybercrime *does* pay; here's how:
http://computershopper.com.com/4520-3513_7-6427016-1.html

HTH

Dave

 

[M.I.5¾]

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
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> M.I.5¾ wrote:
>> "Bill in Co." wrote in message
>> news:Ogq5SUHZJHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> M.I.5¾ wrote:
>>>> "Anteaus" wrote in message
>>>> news:1F7FD653-4997-4B81-B40E-4F08BC180996@microsoft.com...
>>>>> There are unbelieveable amounts of rubbish written about the
>>>>> energy-usage
>>>>> of electrical appliances. Most are total snake-oil and rely on the
>>>>> typical
>>>>> users' utter ignorance of such matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> One is the myth that fluorescents use 'prodigial amounts of energy'
>>>>> when
>>>>> starting from cold, so they should be left on all day. This theory
>>>>> keeps
>>>>> getting repeated and repeated, so it acquires a life of its own, not
>>>>> unlike a
>>>>> spoken version of an Internet worm. Yet, a simple wattmeter test
>>>>> (which
>>>>> anyone can do just by counting the revolutions of their ordinary house
>>>>> electricity-meter) will dismiss it as bunk.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One needs to put this in context. It is not the starting up of the
>>>> fluorescent lights that takes large amounts of energy. As you note,
>>>> they
>>>> do
>>>> take a bit more power to start, but it is only required for a few
>>>> hundreds
>>>> of milliseconds at most, so for the end user, the energy is negligible.
>>>>
>>>> But, every time you start a fluorescent light, it shortens the life of
>>>> the
>>>> tube (for technical reasons).
>>>
>>> Also true for incandescent lights, due to the sudden current onrush (a
>>> cold tungsten filament has much lower resistance than when its hot, so
>>> the
>>> initial current onrush is pretty high, contributing to the filament's
>>> failure mode).
>>>
>>> But I don't know if the overall lifetime of an incandescent light bulb
>>> (like a typical 60 W bulb) is shortened more by this than it would be by
>>> leaving it on continuously. I suppose that would depend on how often
>>> it's turned on and off. Like if it's only turned on and off once or
>>> twice a day, who knows? (I'm sure someone has the data on this,
>>> though)
>>>
>>
>> Urban Myth.
>>
>> A filament bulb's life is not shortened in the slightest by switching it
>> on
>> (and in those applications where they are regularly switched on an off,
>> there is no reduction in life (traffic lights or even Belisha beacons for
>> example).
>
> I don't think it's a myth at all. It's the basic physics of metal
> fatigue:
>
> The sudden expansion and stress on the metal tungsten filament, due to the
> huge current inrush when the filament is cold (because it has a very low
> resistance then), directly contributes to metal fatigue. One cause of
> any metal fatigue is sudden expansion and/or contraction.
>
> As I recall, when I used an old analog ohmmeter (a Simpson) to measure the
> cold resistance (obviously) of a 60W incandescent bulb, it was around 20
> ohms, or so.
> So, on 120 VAC, the initial current surge is around 6.0 Amps!! Obviously
> after the filament has warmed up to its normal operating temperature a few
> seconds later, it drops to its normal value, of around 0.5A.
>

Then you tell the Underwriter's Laboratory that their results are completely
wrong. Practical usage also shows that there is no life reduction with
frequent switching in spite of what intuition might tell you. Incidentally,
metal fatigue has nothing to do with it. Metal fatigue is a phenomenon that
occurs when metal is subject to mechanical load stress not thermal cycling.
Tungsten, like steel (but unlike aluminium), has a wide load stress range
over which it will never fatigue.

 

[Charles Douglas Wehner]

Regarding leaving equipment on all day:

One cannot generalise. It all depends on the equipment.

Tungsten filaments, as in a tungsten light bulb or the heater of a
fluoresccent lamp, do indeed cause a huge surge at switch-on. However,
as it is only for a fraction of a second you cannot see it on a
current meter. It is this surge that causes them to burn out at switch-
on.

Tungsten gives about 15 lumens per Watt. Fluorescent gives about 55.
It is better not to switch fluorescents on and off too often, because
whilst running they are so efficient that there is not much saving.

Computers have hard drives. Sometimes, some background task makes the
motor run. Mechanical wear and tear has to be taken into account.

Again, when a CPU is running, it gets warm. That is why they have a
fan fitted. If they are running for too long, the dopant on the chip
will shift, and the transistors that have been fabricated on the chip
may fail.

A server MUST be on 24/7 - but a domestic computer, used for just an
hour or so per day, is best left switched off.

I could say so much, after almost fifty years in engineering. However,
it is best to say that it depends on the individual case.

Charles Douglas Wehner

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Charles Douglas Wehner wrote:
> Regarding leaving equipment on all day:
>
> One cannot generalise. It all depends on the equipment.
>
> Tungsten filaments, as in a tungsten light bulb or the heater of a
> fluoresccent lamp, do indeed cause a huge surge at switch-on.
> However, as it is only for a fraction of a second you cannot see it
> on a current meter. It is this surge that causes them to burn out
> at switch- on.
>
> Tungsten gives about 15 lumens per Watt. Fluorescent gives about 55.
> It is better not to switch fluorescents on and off too often,
> because whilst running they are so efficient that there is not much
> saving.
>
> Computers have hard drives. Sometimes, some background task makes
> the motor run. Mechanical wear and tear has to be taken into
> account.
>
> Again, when a CPU is running, it gets warm. That is why they have a
> fan fitted. If they are running for too long, the dopant on the chip
> will shift, and the transistors that have been fabricated on the
> chip may fail.
>
> A server MUST be on 24/7 - but a domestic computer, used for just an
> hour or so per day, is best left switched off.
>
> I could say so much, after almost fifty years in engineering.
> However, it is best to say that it depends on the individual case.

Not all servers *must* be on 24/7. Some people like to think so - but
realistically - most servers could blink on/off several times a day/night
and no one would likely ever notice. (Not saying that some servers have
applications running on them better served by long and relatively
uninterrupted up-time - but there are many types of servers that are one of
many redundant in a system and the individual outage would not affect
service to the customer as well as servers whose outages during certain
times would unlikely ever be noticed.)

Not all computers have moving parts. Even modern/fully functional Windows
XP/Vista machines used by everyday consumers may have few (a few fans) to no
moving parts. Hard Disk Drives are slowly giving way to solid-state drives.

In the end - it really comes down to what the end-user wants/needs and can
do over what may/may not happen with worn-out mechanical parts. Can the
end-user afford the electricity/bandwidth that may be used by their
'supposedly idle' PC? Is it green and does the end-user care? What sort of
machine is it, what does it do, why should/should not it be on 24/7?

On the moving parts going out - sometimes its more 'luck of the draw' other
than anything else. I have systems/components that have ran well for 15+
years (well meaning they did what originally intended) and I have had
systems/components that came to me dead (or died at the first power-cycle.)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

 

[Richard Urban]

~BD~ wrote:
> "none" wrote in message
> news:uRVl4MKZJHA.1532@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> "Peter Foldes" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u2PeUW4YJHA.1532@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Most if not all Englishmen are extremely bright but when a
>>>>>>> Englishman is stupid then he is really stupid. This one takes
>>>>>>> after Chamberlain. Nuf said
>> Now you are challenging people on things they have never said. Take a
>> pill and calm down for heavens sake.
>
>
> Maybe there was too much for you to read through, Richard!
>
> See what Andrew Taylor said, here:
> news:494ee9a3@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>
> I've been asking Mr Foldes to say a few words about the kind of business
> he's in for nearly three years, but he's *very* secretive about it.
> Maybe he'll tell *you* if you ask him!
>
> If it's Kosher, that's fine. I'm only concerned with bad guys!

>
> Have a great Christmas and may God bless you.
>
> Dave
>
>

What business Mr. Foldes is in is none of **YOUR** business. Get it!