Double-click hanky-panky on desktop.

[BudV]

Running Vista Home Premium SP2.



The subject says "on desktop" only because I haven't looked for signs of

this problem elsewhere yet. The problem seems to manifest itself in

different ways. I'll describe the most obvious way, and if there's no

response, I'll try to describe other symptoms as best I can; although the

more I experiment, the more it's starting to look as though I'm zeroing in

on something -- I know not what.



After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will highlight

that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost (BR) icon. This

was discovered because the typical double-click was causing execution of the

BR icon, and not the selected one. If I moved the BR icon up higher on the

desktop and tried again, the new BR icon would behave the same way. This

happens regardless of which icon I select. It seems that the problem goes

away as soon as I successfully call a program and I leave the desktop. The

problem returns after a restart.

 

[BudV]

I just noticed that after a restart and before any clicking, the BR icon

shows up highlighted.



"BudV" wrote in message

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> Running Vista Home Premium SP2.

>

> The subject says "on desktop" only because I haven't looked for signs of

> this problem elsewhere yet. The problem seems to manifest itself in

> different ways. I'll describe the most obvious way, and if there's no

> response, I'll try to describe other symptoms as best I can; although the

> more I experiment, the more it's starting to look as though I'm zeroing in

> on something -- I know not what.

>

> After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will highlight

> that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost (BR) icon.

> This was discovered because the typical double-click was causing execution

> of the BR icon, and not the selected one. If I moved the BR icon up

> higher on the desktop and tried again, the new BR icon would behave the

> same way. This happens regardless of which icon I select. It seems that

> the problem goes away as soon as I successfully call a program and I leave

> the desktop. The problem returns after a restart.

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

[LVTravel]

"BudV" wrote in message

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> I just noticed that after a restart and before any clicking, the BR icon

> shows up highlighted.

>

> "BudV" wrote in message

> news:FB74930D-C5A0-4952-BD03-298A28F45AAF@microsoft.com...

>> Running Vista Home Premium SP2.

>>

>> The subject says "on desktop" only because I haven't looked for signs of

>> this problem elsewhere yet. The problem seems to manifest itself in

>> different ways. I'll describe the most obvious way, and if there's no

>> response, I'll try to describe other symptoms as best I can; although the

>> more I experiment, the more it's starting to look as though I'm zeroing

>> in on something -- I know not what.

>>

>> After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will highlight

>> that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost (BR) icon.

>> This was discovered because the typical double-click was causing

>> execution of the BR icon, and not the selected one. If I moved the BR

>> icon up higher on the desktop and tried again, the new BR icon would

>> behave the same way. This happens regardless of which icon I select. It

>> seems that the problem goes away as soon as I successfully call a program

>> and I leave the desktop. The problem returns after a restart.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>



Might want to find out what the BR Icon is attached to. Malware or a

program that you installed? That would be the first step. If malware run

many different malware programs on your system even if one get rid of the

icon. Malwarebytes, Spybot Search and Destroy and others are available.



If a program you installed it is time to contact the tech support of the

program's manufacturer to find out what went wrong.

 

[BudV]

"LVTravel" wrote in message

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>

>

> "BudV" wrote in message

> news:B4AF4B2E-E807-4501-BC4C-FEFDD0C35530@microsoft.com...

>> I just noticed that after a restart and before any clicking, the BR icon

>> shows up highlighted.

>>

>> "BudV" wrote in message

>> news:FB74930D-C5A0-4952-BD03-298A28F45AAF@microsoft.com...

>>> Running Vista Home Premium SP2.

>>>

>>> The subject says "on desktop" only because I haven't looked for signs of

>>> this problem elsewhere yet. The problem seems to manifest itself in

>>> different ways. I'll describe the most obvious way, and if there's no

>>> response, I'll try to describe other symptoms as best I can; although

>>> the more I experiment, the more it's starting to look as though I'm

>>> zeroing in on something -- I know not what.

>>>

>>> After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will

>>> highlight that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost

>>> (BR) icon. This was discovered because the typical double-click was

>>> causing execution of the BR icon, and not the selected one. If I moved

>>> the BR icon up higher on the desktop and tried again, the new BR icon

>>> would behave the same way. This happens regardless of which icon I

>>> select. It seems that the problem goes away as soon as I successfully

>>> call a program and I leave the desktop. The problem returns after a

>>> restart.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

> Might want to find out what the BR Icon is attached to. Malware or a

> program that you installed? That would be the first step. If malware run

> many different malware programs on your system even if one get rid of the

> icon. Malwarebytes, Spybot Search and Destroy and others are available.

>

> If a program you installed it is time to contact the tech support of the

> program's manufacturer to find out what went wrong.



By "attached to", if you mean its target, everything looks kosher, and the

system responds just as though I had double-clicked it, i.e., it executes

properly; if not, what do you mean?



The slim clue that I see is that something is happening during startup that

highlights that icon. Since it always affects the bottom-rightmost icon,

can we assume that the icons are processed (whatever that entails) in a

top-to-bottom, left-to-right order, therefore implying that it's simply the

last one loaded? Given that, where do we go from there?

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:17:01 -0600, BudV wrote:



> "LVTravel" wrote in message

> news:O2MCMlIvKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>>

>> "BudV" wrote in message

>> news:B4AF4B2E-E807-4501-BC4C-FEFDD0C35530@microsoft.com...

>>> I just noticed that after a restart and before any clicking, the BR icon

>>> shows up highlighted.

>>>

>>> "BudV" wrote in message

>>> news:FB74930D-C5A0-4952-BD03-298A28F45AAF@microsoft.com...

>>>> Running Vista Home Premium SP2.

>>>>

>>>> The subject says "on desktop" only because I haven't looked for signs of

>>>> this problem elsewhere yet. The problem seems to manifest itself in

>>>> different ways. I'll describe the most obvious way, and if there's no

>>>> response, I'll try to describe other symptoms as best I can; although

>>>> the more I experiment, the more it's starting to look as though I'm

>>>> zeroing in on something -- I know not what.

>>>>

>>>> After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will

>>>> highlight that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost

>>>> (BR) icon. This was discovered because the typical double-click was

>>>> causing execution of the BR icon, and not the selected one. If I moved

>>>> the BR icon up higher on the desktop and tried again, the new BR icon

>>>> would behave the same way. This happens regardless of which icon I

>>>> select. It seems that the problem goes away as soon as I successfully

>>>> call a program and I leave the desktop. The problem returns after a

>>>> restart.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>> Might want to find out what the BR Icon is attached to. Malware or a

>> program that you installed? That would be the first step. If malware run

>> many different malware programs on your system even if one get rid of the

>> icon. Malwarebytes, Spybot Search and Destroy and others are available.

>>

>> If a program you installed it is time to contact the tech support of the

>> program's manufacturer to find out what went wrong.

>

> By "attached to", if you mean its target, everything looks kosher, and the

> system responds just as though I had double-clicked it, i.e., it executes

> properly; if not, what do you mean?

>

> The slim clue that I see is that something is happening during startup that

> highlights that icon. Since it always affects the bottom-rightmost icon,

> can we assume that the icons are processed (whatever that entails) in a

> top-to-bottom, left-to-right order, therefore implying that it's simply the

> last one loaded? Given that, where do we go from there?



Do you listen to Car Talk? They often respond to certain classes of

problems with the plaint "Doesn't anybody screen these calls?".



Those classes constitute completely weird problems that just can't happen.

I bring this up because your problem seems to fit that criterion.



Other things to try:



1. If you add a new icon at the end, does the highlight switch to that one?



2. Maybe using msconfig or Autoruns (a free download at Microsoft.com) will

show you something at startup that looks suspicious...Or at least

"interesting".



3. Could it be the mouse driver? Try to update that, or to plug your mouse

in after booting is completed, or other strange things like that...



Really, this one is too weird.



--

Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

 

[LVTravel]

"BudV" wrote in message

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>

> "LVTravel" wrote in message

> news:O2MCMlIvKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>>

>> "BudV" wrote in message

>> news:B4AF4B2E-E807-4501-BC4C-FEFDD0C35530@microsoft.com...

>>> I just noticed that after a restart and before any clicking, the BR icon

>>> shows up highlighted.

>>>

>>> "BudV" wrote in message

>>> news:FB74930D-C5A0-4952-BD03-298A28F45AAF@microsoft.com...

>>>> Running Vista Home Premium SP2.

>>>>

>>>> The subject says "on desktop" only because I haven't looked for signs

>>>> of this problem elsewhere yet. The problem seems to manifest itself in

>>>> different ways. I'll describe the most obvious way, and if there's no

>>>> response, I'll try to describe other symptoms as best I can; although

>>>> the more I experiment, the more it's starting to look as though I'm

>>>> zeroing in on something -- I know not what.

>>>>

>>>> After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will

>>>> highlight that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost

>>>> (BR) icon. This was discovered because the typical double-click was

>>>> causing execution of the BR icon, and not the selected one. If I moved

>>>> the BR icon up higher on the desktop and tried again, the new BR icon

>>>> would behave the same way. This happens regardless of which icon I

>>>> select. It seems that the problem goes away as soon as I successfully

>>>> call a program and I leave the desktop. The problem returns after a

>>>> restart.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>> Might want to find out what the BR Icon is attached to. Malware or a

>> program that you installed? That would be the first step. If malware

>> run many different malware programs on your system even if one get rid of

>> the icon. Malwarebytes, Spybot Search and Destroy and others are

>> available.

>>

>> If a program you installed it is time to contact the tech support of the

>> program's manufacturer to find out what went wrong.

>

> By "attached to", if you mean its target, everything looks kosher, and the

> system responds just as though I had double-clicked it, i.e., it executes

> properly; if not, what do you mean?

>

> The slim clue that I see is that something is happening during startup

> that highlights that icon. Since it always affects the bottom-rightmost

> icon, can we assume that the icons are processed (whatever that entails)

> in a top-to-bottom, left-to-right order, therefore implying that it's

> simply the last one loaded? Given that, where do we go from there?

>

>

>

>



Yes, I meant the application that the Icon represents. Since we don't know

what BR means it may help us to help you if you explain the program that

this icon is pointing to. Did you install it or did it come with the

computer?

 

[BudV]

"LVTravel" wrote in message

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>

>

> "BudV" wrote in message

> news:u4ReehJvKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "LVTravel" wrote in message

>> news:O2MCMlIvKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>

>>> "BudV" wrote in message

>>> news:B4AF4B2E-E807-4501-BC4C-FEFDD0C35530@microsoft.com...

>>>> I just noticed that after a restart and before any clicking, the BR

>>>> icon shows up highlighted.

>>>>

>>>> "BudV" wrote in message

>>>> news:FB74930D-C5A0-4952-BD03-298A28F45AAF@microsoft.com...

>>>>> Running Vista Home Premium SP2.

>>>>>

>>>>> The subject says "on desktop" only because I haven't looked for signs

>>>>> of this problem elsewhere yet. The problem seems to manifest itself

>>>>> in different ways. I'll describe the most obvious way, and if there's

>>>>> no response, I'll try to describe other symptoms as best I can;

>>>>> although the more I experiment, the more it's starting to look as

>>>>> though I'm zeroing in on something -- I know not what.

>>>>>

>>>>> After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will

>>>>> highlight that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost

>>>>> (BR) icon. This was discovered because the typical double-click was

>>>>> causing execution of the BR icon, and not the selected one. If I

>>>>> moved the BR icon up higher on the desktop and tried again, the new BR

>>>>> icon would behave the same way. This happens regardless of which icon

>>>>> I select. It seems that the problem goes away as soon as I

>>>>> successfully call a program and I leave the desktop. The problem

>>>>> returns after a restart.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>> Might want to find out what the BR Icon is attached to. Malware or a

>>> program that you installed? That would be the first step. If malware

>>> run many different malware programs on your system even if one get rid

>>> of the icon. Malwarebytes, Spybot Search and Destroy and others are

>>> available.

>>>

>>> If a program you installed it is time to contact the tech support of the

>>> program's manufacturer to find out what went wrong.

>>

>> By "attached to", if you mean its target, everything looks kosher, and

>> the system responds just as though I had double-clicked it, i.e., it

>> executes properly; if not, what do you mean?

>>

>> The slim clue that I see is that something is happening during startup

>> that highlights that icon. Since it always affects the bottom-rightmost

>> icon, can we assume that the icons are processed (whatever that entails)

>> in a top-to-bottom, left-to-right order, therefore implying that it's

>> simply the last one loaded? Given that, where do we go from there?

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

> Yes, I meant the application that the Icon represents. Since we don't

> know what BR means it may help us to help you if you explain the program

> that this icon is pointing to. Did you install it or did it come with the

> computer?



You'll love this! Quote from above:

>>>>> After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will

>>>>> highlight that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost

>>>>> (BR) icon.

Yeah, BR stands for "bottom-rightmost".

 

[LVTravel]

"BudV" wrote in message

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>

> "LVTravel" wrote in message

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>>

>>

>> "BudV" wrote in message

>> news:u4ReehJvKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> "LVTravel" wrote in message

>>> news:O2MCMlIvKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "BudV" wrote in message

>>>> news:B4AF4B2E-E807-4501-BC4C-FEFDD0C35530@microsoft.com...

>>>>> I just noticed that after a restart and before any clicking, the BR

>>>>> icon shows up highlighted.

>>>>>

>>>>> "BudV" wrote in message

>>>>> news:FB74930D-C5A0-4952-BD03-298A28F45AAF@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> Running Vista Home Premium SP2.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The subject says "on desktop" only because I haven't looked for signs

>>>>>> of this problem elsewhere yet. The problem seems to manifest itself

>>>>>> in different ways. I'll describe the most obvious way, and if there's

>>>>>> no response, I'll try to describe other symptoms as best I can;

>>>>>> although the more I experiment, the more it's starting to look as

>>>>>> though I'm zeroing in on something -- I know not what.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will

>>>>>> highlight that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost

>>>>>> (BR) icon. This was discovered because the typical double-click was

>>>>>> causing execution of the BR icon, and not the selected one. If I

>>>>>> moved the BR icon up higher on the desktop and tried again, the new

>>>>>> BR icon would behave the same way. This happens regardless of which

>>>>>> icon I select. It seems that the problem goes away as soon as I

>>>>>> successfully call a program and I leave the desktop. The problem

>>>>>> returns after a restart.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Might want to find out what the BR Icon is attached to. Malware or a

>>>> program that you installed? That would be the first step. If malware

>>>> run many different malware programs on your system even if one get rid

>>>> of the icon. Malwarebytes, Spybot Search and Destroy and others are

>>>> available.

>>>>

>>>> If a program you installed it is time to contact the tech support of

>>>> the program's manufacturer to find out what went wrong.

>>>

>>> By "attached to", if you mean its target, everything looks kosher, and

>>> the system responds just as though I had double-clicked it, i.e., it

>>> executes properly; if not, what do you mean?

>>>

>>> The slim clue that I see is that something is happening during startup

>>> that highlights that icon. Since it always affects the bottom-rightmost

>>> icon, can we assume that the icons are processed (whatever that entails)

>>> in a top-to-bottom, left-to-right order, therefore implying that it's

>>> simply the last one loaded? Given that, where do we go from there?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>> Yes, I meant the application that the Icon represents. Since we don't

>> know what BR means it may help us to help you if you explain the program

>> that this icon is pointing to. Did you install it or did it come with

>> the computer?

>

> You'll love this! Quote from above:

>>>>>> After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will

>>>>>> highlight that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost

>>>>>> (BR) icon.

> Yeah, BR stands for "bottom-rightmost".



Ok missed that abbreviation but what program is the BR Icon supposed to

start when double clicked? Did you install the program, was it already on

the computer when you purchased the computer. In other words where did the

BR icon come from. Have you checked for malware yet?

 

[BudV]

"LVTravel" wrote in message

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>

>

> "BudV" wrote in message

> news:4F19B4CC-B537-4BA9-B316-4239463CD8F8@microsoft.com...

>>

>> "LVTravel" wrote in message

>> news:%23f$4JDOvKHA.2436@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>

>>> "BudV" wrote in message

>>> news:u4ReehJvKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>

>>>> "LVTravel" wrote in message

>>>> news:O2MCMlIvKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "BudV" wrote in message

>>>>> news:B4AF4B2E-E807-4501-BC4C-FEFDD0C35530@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> I just noticed that after a restart and before any clicking, the BR

>>>>>> icon shows up highlighted.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "BudV" wrote in message

>>>>>> news:FB74930D-C5A0-4952-BD03-298A28F45AAF@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> Running Vista Home Premium SP2.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The subject says "on desktop" only because I haven't looked for

>>>>>>> signs of this problem elsewhere yet. The problem seems to manifest

>>>>>>> itself in different ways. I'll describe the most obvious way, and if

>>>>>>> there's no response, I'll try to describe other symptoms as best I

>>>>>>> can; although the more I experiment, the more it's starting to look

>>>>>>> as though I'm zeroing in on something -- I know not what.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will

>>>>>>> highlight that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost

>>>>>>> (BR) icon. This was discovered because the typical double-click was

>>>>>>> causing execution of the BR icon, and not the selected one. If I

>>>>>>> moved the BR icon up higher on the desktop and tried again, the new

>>>>>>> BR icon would behave the same way. This happens regardless of which

>>>>>>> icon I select. It seems that the problem goes away as soon as I

>>>>>>> successfully call a program and I leave the desktop. The problem

>>>>>>> returns after a restart.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Might want to find out what the BR Icon is attached to. Malware or a

>>>>> program that you installed? That would be the first step. If malware

>>>>> run many different malware programs on your system even if one get rid

>>>>> of the icon. Malwarebytes, Spybot Search and Destroy and others are

>>>>> available.

>>>>>

>>>>> If a program you installed it is time to contact the tech support of

>>>>> the program's manufacturer to find out what went wrong.

>>>>

>>>> By "attached to", if you mean its target, everything looks kosher, and

>>>> the system responds just as though I had double-clicked it, i.e., it

>>>> executes properly; if not, what do you mean?

>>>>

>>>> The slim clue that I see is that something is happening during startup

>>>> that highlights that icon. Since it always affects the

>>>> bottom-rightmost icon, can we assume that the icons are processed

>>>> (whatever that entails) in a top-to-bottom, left-to-right order,

>>>> therefore implying that it's simply the last one loaded? Given that,

>>>> where do we go from there?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>> Yes, I meant the application that the Icon represents. Since we don't

>>> know what BR means it may help us to help you if you explain the program

>>> that this icon is pointing to. Did you install it or did it come with

>>> the computer?

>>

>> You'll love this! Quote from above:

>>>>>>> After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will

>>>>>>> highlight that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost

>>>>>>> (BR) icon.

>> Yeah, BR stands for "bottom-rightmost".

>

> Ok missed that abbreviation but what program is the BR Icon supposed to

> start when double clicked? Did you install the program, was it already on

> the computer when you purchased the computer. In other words where did

> the BR icon come from. Have you checked for malware yet?





Sorry, but I still haven't made myself clear. This whole thread is involved

with the icon positioned at the lower-right of the desktop, WHATEVER PROGRAM

IS REPRESENTED THERE! If I drag that icon to somewhere else (above) on

the screen and do a restart, then the problem occurs with the icon that NOW

qualifies as the BR icon. Having said that, let me try to clear up the

issue a little by pointing out that it's not the *execution* of the program

that's represented by the BR icon, but the fact that the icon HAS ALREADY

BEEN HIGHLIGHTED when startup is complete, causing associated after-the-fact

problems.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 00:14:49 -0600, BudV wrote:



> "LVTravel" wrote in message

> news:OphwZMbvKHA.4604@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>>

>> "BudV" wrote in message

>> news:4F19B4CC-B537-4BA9-B316-4239463CD8F8@microsoft.com...

>>>

>>> "LVTravel" wrote in message

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>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "BudV" wrote in message

>>>> news:u4ReehJvKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>> "LVTravel" wrote in message

>>>>> news:O2MCMlIvKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "BudV" wrote in message

>>>>>> news:B4AF4B2E-E807-4501-BC4C-FEFDD0C35530@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> I just noticed that after a restart and before any clicking, the BR

>>>>>>> icon shows up highlighted.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "BudV" wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:FB74930D-C5A0-4952-BD03-298A28F45AAF@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> Running Vista Home Premium SP2.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> The subject says "on desktop" only because I haven't looked for

>>>>>>>> signs of this problem elsewhere yet. The problem seems to manifest

>>>>>>>> itself in different ways. I'll describe the most obvious way, and if

>>>>>>>> there's no response, I'll try to describe other symptoms as best I

>>>>>>>> can; although the more I experiment, the more it's starting to look

>>>>>>>> as though I'm zeroing in on something -- I know not what.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will

>>>>>>>> highlight that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost

>>>>>>>> (BR) icon. This was discovered because the typical double-click was

>>>>>>>> causing execution of the BR icon, and not the selected one. If I

>>>>>>>> moved the BR icon up higher on the desktop and tried again, the new

>>>>>>>> BR icon would behave the same way. This happens regardless of which

>>>>>>>> icon I select. It seems that the problem goes away as soon as I

>>>>>>>> successfully call a program and I leave the desktop. The problem

>>>>>>>> returns after a restart.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Might want to find out what the BR Icon is attached to. Malware or a

>>>>>> program that you installed? That would be the first step. If malware

>>>>>> run many different malware programs on your system even if one get rid

>>>>>> of the icon. Malwarebytes, Spybot Search and Destroy and others are

>>>>>> available.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> If a program you installed it is time to contact the tech support of

>>>>>> the program's manufacturer to find out what went wrong.

>>>>>

>>>>> By "attached to", if you mean its target, everything looks kosher, and

>>>>> the system responds just as though I had double-clicked it, i.e., it

>>>>> executes properly; if not, what do you mean?

>>>>>

>>>>> The slim clue that I see is that something is happening during startup

>>>>> that highlights that icon. Since it always affects the

>>>>> bottom-rightmost icon, can we assume that the icons are processed

>>>>> (whatever that entails) in a top-to-bottom, left-to-right order,

>>>>> therefore implying that it's simply the last one loaded? Given that,

>>>>> where do we go from there?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Yes, I meant the application that the Icon represents. Since we don't

>>>> know what BR means it may help us to help you if you explain the program

>>>> that this icon is pointing to. Did you install it or did it come with

>>>> the computer?

>>>

>>> You'll love this! Quote from above:

>>>>>>>> After a Restart, a single-click on one of my desktop icons will

>>>>>>>> highlight that icon, but it will also highlight the bottom-rightmost

>>>>>>>> (BR) icon.

>>> Yeah, BR stands for "bottom-rightmost".

>>

>> Ok missed that abbreviation but what program is the BR Icon supposed to

>> start when double clicked? Did you install the program, was it already on

>> the computer when you purchased the computer. In other words where did

>> the BR icon come from. Have you checked for malware yet?

>

>

> Sorry, but I still haven't made myself clear. This whole thread is involved

> with the icon positioned at the lower-right of the desktop, WHATEVER PROGRAM

> IS REPRESENTED THERE! If I drag that icon to somewhere else (above) on

> the screen and do a restart, then the problem occurs with the icon that NOW

> qualifies as the BR icon. Having said that, let me try to clear up the

> issue a little by pointing out that it's not the *execution* of the program

> that's represented by the BR icon, but the fact that the icon HAS ALREADY

> BEEN HIGHLIGHTED when startup is complete, causing associated after-the-fact

> problems.



Actually, you were clear...



Earlier, I asked a question: if you add a new icon to the desktop so that

it ends up at the BR position, does it get highlighted, or does the

previous contender get highlighted?



OTOH, I have no idea what either answer to that question might imply



I also suggested looking into your startup axis for anything that might

seem "interesting"...



--

Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

 

[BudV]

> Actually, you were clear...

Thanks for the support. I was beginning to have doubts.



> Earlier, I asked a question: if you add a new icon to the desktop so that

> it ends up at the BR position, does it get highlighted, or does the

> previous contender get highlighted?

Can I get partial credit with this quote? "If I moved the BR icon up higher

on the desktop and tried again, the new

BR icon would behave the same way."



You asked me if I listened to Car Talk. My immediate answer would have been

"no", because I had never heard about it; but while searching the net for

it, I came across a site, and the following takes you directly to the

category I posted in:



http://www.techsupportforum.com/microsoft-support/windows-vista-windows-7-support



I don't know how to tell you to find my post, so I'll repeat it here. It's

a cleaned-up version of this thread, and I hope it will be easier for people

to understand:



Subject: Vista desktop shortcuts mess up on startup.

Running Vista Home Premium SP2 on a Toshiba A305 Satellite laptop.



My system has started leaving the bottom-rightmost (BR) icon highlighted

after a restart -- any restart, whether direct, or coming out of Power Off

or Hibernation. (Redundancy: To avoid some stubborn confusion encountered in

another forum, "BR" means "Bottom-Rightmost". It is not a program name. It

merely represents the position of an icon on the desktop.)



This was discovered because a choice (double-click) of a desktop icon was

causing execution of the BR icon, and not the chosen one. If I moved the BR

icon up higher on the desktop and restarted, the new BR icon would behave

the same way. This happens regardless of which icon I choose. There is no

further problem once the invoked program loads and settles down; e.g.,

Outlook doing all its send/receive and calendar reminders. The problem

returns after a restart.



For what it's worth, if the startup procedure processes the desktop icons in

a left-to-right, top-to-bottom sequence, then the BR icon would be the last

one to be processed.



The only help I can offer is that around the same time this started, I

installed The Ultimate Troubleshooter (TUT) from AnswersThatWork (which I

have used before and like) and began some cleanup involving

removing/disabling some items from the Startup procedure (what you would see

using msconfig). Unfortunately, I didn't keep a record of my activity, which

makes it a bit difficult to undo them. I have a letter in to AnswersThatWork

to see if they keep some kind of activity log.



I'm posting this to see if anyone has seen this peculiarity before, or even

if it rings a bell as to what I may have changed that might be associated

with it.

 

[BudV]

Bad news. I heard from AnswersThatWork, and TUT does keep a log of all my

activity. I undid all the things I did, powered off and on, and the problem

remained. Now what?

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:44:27 -0600, BudV wrote:



>> Actually, you were clear...

> Thanks for the support. I was beginning to have doubts.

>

>> Earlier, I asked a question: if you add a new icon to the desktop so that

>> it ends up at the BR position, does it get highlighted, or does the

>> previous contender get highlighted?

> Can I get partial credit with this quote? "If I moved the BR icon up higher

> on the desktop and tried again, the new

> BR icon would behave the same way."



No partial credit, since it's not what I asked.



In the case you cite, there are no *new* icons on the desktop...which is

why I asked my question in the first place.



By new, I mean ones that didn't exist a few seconds ago.



> You asked me if I listened to Car Talk. My immediate answer would have been

> "no", because I had never heard about it; but while searching the net for

> it, I came across a site, and the following takes you directly to the

> category I posted in:

>

> http://www.techsupportforum.com/microsoft-support/windows-vista-windows-7-support

>

> I don't know how to tell you to find my post, so I'll repeat it here. It's

> a cleaned-up version of this thread, and I hope it will be easier for people

> to understand:

>

> Subject: Vista desktop shortcuts mess up on startup.

> Running Vista Home Premium SP2 on a Toshiba A305 Satellite laptop.

>

> My system has started leaving the bottom-rightmost (BR) icon highlighted

> after a restart -- any restart, whether direct, or coming out of Power Off

> or Hibernation. (Redundancy: To avoid some stubborn confusion encountered in

> another forum, "BR" means "Bottom-Rightmost". It is not a program name. It

> merely represents the position of an icon on the desktop.)

>

> This was discovered because a choice (double-click) of a desktop icon was

> causing execution of the BR icon, and not the chosen one. If I moved the BR

> icon up higher on the desktop and restarted, the new BR icon would behave

> the same way. This happens regardless of which icon I choose. There is no

> further problem once the invoked program loads and settles down; e.g.,

> Outlook doing all its send/receive and calendar reminders. The problem

> returns after a restart.

>

> For what it's worth, if the startup procedure processes the desktop icons in

> a left-to-right, top-to-bottom sequence, then the BR icon would be the last

> one to be processed.

>

> The only help I can offer is that around the same time this started, I

> installed The Ultimate Troubleshooter (TUT) from AnswersThatWork (which I

> have used before and like) and began some cleanup involving

> removing/disabling some items from the Startup procedure (what you would see

> using msconfig). Unfortunately, I didn't keep a record of my activity, which

> makes it a bit difficult to undo them. I have a letter in to AnswersThatWork

> to see if they keep some kind of activity log.

>

> I'm posting this to see if anyone has seen this peculiarity before, or even

> if it rings a bell as to what I may have changed that might be associated

> with it.





--

Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

 

[BudV]

I added a new icon near the top of the desktop, and the restart highlighted

the old BR icon. When I moved the new icon down so that it was now the BR

icon, it got the highlight after the restart. I'm sure that, whatever path

the system takes through the icons to put in the pictures and words and

other stuff, the last one processed is that BR icon, and for some reason,

the "desktop initializing routine" has stopped doing what I've always called

"ending housekeeping", which probably includes un-highlighting the last icon

and other wrap-up functions. Question is, who's the culprit?



"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message

news:c1zcbejvs9lr.1dflvsr5nvxed$.dlg@40tude.net...

> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:44:27 -0600, BudV wrote:

>

>>> Actually, you were clear...

>> Thanks for the support. I was beginning to have doubts.

>>

>>> Earlier, I asked a question: if you add a new icon to the desktop so

>>> that

>>> it ends up at the BR position, does it get highlighted, or does the

>>> previous contender get highlighted?

>> Can I get partial credit with this quote? "If I moved the BR icon up

>> higher

>> on the desktop and tried again, the new

>> BR icon would behave the same way."

>

> No partial credit, since it's not what I asked.

>

> In the case you cite, there are no *new* icons on the desktop...which is

> why I asked my question in the first place.

>

> By new, I mean ones that didn't exist a few seconds ago.

>

>> You asked me if I listened to Car Talk. My immediate answer would have

>> been

>> "no", because I had never heard about it; but while searching the net for

>> it, I came across a site, and the following takes you directly to the

>> category I posted in:

>>

>> http://www.techsupportforum.com/microsoft-support/windows-vista-windows-7-support

>>

>> I don't know how to tell you to find my post, so I'll repeat it here.

>> It's

>> a cleaned-up version of this thread, and I hope it will be easier for

>> people

>> to understand:

>>

>> Subject: Vista desktop shortcuts mess up on startup.

>> Running Vista Home Premium SP2 on a Toshiba A305 Satellite laptop.

>>

>> My system has started leaving the bottom-rightmost (BR) icon highlighted

>> after a restart -- any restart, whether direct, or coming out of Power

>> Off

>> or Hibernation. (Redundancy: To avoid some stubborn confusion encountered

>> in

>> another forum, "BR" means "Bottom-Rightmost". It is not a program name.

>> It

>> merely represents the position of an icon on the desktop.)

>>

>> This was discovered because a choice (double-click) of a desktop icon was

>> causing execution of the BR icon, and not the chosen one. If I moved the

>> BR

>> icon up higher on the desktop and restarted, the new BR icon would behave

>> the same way. This happens regardless of which icon I choose. There is no

>> further problem once the invoked program loads and settles down; e.g.,

>> Outlook doing all its send/receive and calendar reminders. The problem

>> returns after a restart.

>>

>> For what it's worth, if the startup procedure processes the desktop icons

>> in

>> a left-to-right, top-to-bottom sequence, then the BR icon would be the

>> last

>> one to be processed.

>>

>> The only help I can offer is that around the same time this started, I

>> installed The Ultimate Troubleshooter (TUT) from AnswersThatWork (which I

>> have used before and like) and began some cleanup involving

>> removing/disabling some items from the Startup procedure (what you would

>> see

>> using msconfig). Unfortunately, I didn't keep a record of my activity,

>> which

>> makes it a bit difficult to undo them. I have a letter in to

>> AnswersThatWork

>> to see if they keep some kind of activity log.

>>

>> I'm posting this to see if anyone has seen this peculiarity before, or

>> even

>> if it rings a bell as to what I may have changed that might be associated

>> with it.

>

>

> --

> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

 

[Billns]

On 3/10/2010 9:33 PM, BudV wrote:

> I added a new icon near the top of the desktop, and the restart

> highlighted the old BR icon. When I moved the new icon down so that it

> was now the BR icon, it got the highlight after the restart. I'm sure

> that, whatever path the system takes through the icons to put in the

> pictures and words and other stuff, the last one processed is that BR

> icon, and for some reason, the "desktop initializing routine" has

> stopped doing what I've always called "ending housekeeping", which

> probably includes un-highlighting the last icon and other wrap-up

> functions. Question is, who's the culprit?

>

Hard to say.



Have you tried booting in safe mode to see if the problem occurs there?

Have you tried a system restore to a date before you had this problem?

Have you tried creating a new user account, then deleting the offending one?



Sorry if I missed your mentioning safe mode, new user or system restore

in previous messages. I skimmed through this thread.



Bill

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:33:00 -0600, BudV wrote:



> I added a new icon near the top of the desktop, and the restart highlighted

> the old BR icon. When I moved the new icon down so that it was now the BR

> icon, it got the highlight after the restart. I'm sure that, whatever path

> the system takes through the icons to put in the pictures and words and

> other stuff, the last one processed is that BR icon, and for some reason,

> the "desktop initializing routine" has stopped doing what I've always called

> "ending housekeeping", which probably includes un-highlighting the last icon

> and other wrap-up functions. Question is, who's the culprit?



Bill Gates?



How about making a new icon, moving it to BR, and *then* rebooting (which

is what I meant in the first place)...



OTOH, at this point, I don't think it would be worth your effort. I suspect

there'd be no difference.



It is certainly a pretty weird problem, and I still have no ideas :-(



>

> "Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message

> news:c1zcbejvs9lr.1dflvsr5nvxed$.dlg@40tude.net...

>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:44:27 -0600, BudV wrote:

>>

>>>> Actually, you were clear...

>>> Thanks for the support. I was beginning to have doubts.

>>>

>>>> Earlier, I asked a question: if you add a new icon to the desktop so

>>>> that

>>>> it ends up at the BR position, does it get highlighted, or does the

>>>> previous contender get highlighted?

>>> Can I get partial credit with this quote? "If I moved the BR icon up

>>> higher

>>> on the desktop and tried again, the new

>>> BR icon would behave the same way."

>>

>> No partial credit, since it's not what I asked.

>>

>> In the case you cite, there are no *new* icons on the desktop...which is

>> why I asked my question in the first place.

>>

>> By new, I mean ones that didn't exist a few seconds ago.

>>

>>> You asked me if I listened to Car Talk. My immediate answer would have

>>> been

>>> "no", because I had never heard about it; but while searching the net for

>>> it, I came across a site, and the following takes you directly to the

>>> category I posted in:

>>>

>>> http://www.techsupportforum.com/microsoft-support/windows-vista-windows-7-support

>>>

>>> I don't know how to tell you to find my post, so I'll repeat it here.

>>> It's

>>> a cleaned-up version of this thread, and I hope it will be easier for

>>> people

>>> to understand:

>>>

>>> Subject: Vista desktop shortcuts mess up on startup.

>>> Running Vista Home Premium SP2 on a Toshiba A305 Satellite laptop.

>>>

>>> My system has started leaving the bottom-rightmost (BR) icon highlighted

>>> after a restart -- any restart, whether direct, or coming out of Power

>>> Off

>>> or Hibernation. (Redundancy: To avoid some stubborn confusion encountered

>>> in

>>> another forum, "BR" means "Bottom-Rightmost". It is not a program name.

>>> It

>>> merely represents the position of an icon on the desktop.)

>>>

>>> This was discovered because a choice (double-click) of a desktop icon was

>>> causing execution of the BR icon, and not the chosen one. If I moved the

>>> BR

>>> icon up higher on the desktop and restarted, the new BR icon would behave

>>> the same way. This happens regardless of which icon I choose. There is no

>>> further problem once the invoked program loads and settles down; e.g.,

>>> Outlook doing all its send/receive and calendar reminders. The problem

>>> returns after a restart.

>>>

>>> For what it's worth, if the startup procedure processes the desktop icons

>>> in

>>> a left-to-right, top-to-bottom sequence, then the BR icon would be the

>>> last

>>> one to be processed.

>>>

>>> The only help I can offer is that around the same time this started, I

>>> installed The Ultimate Troubleshooter (TUT) from AnswersThatWork (which I

>>> have used before and like) and began some cleanup involving

>>> removing/disabling some items from the Startup procedure (what you would

>>> see

>>> using msconfig). Unfortunately, I didn't keep a record of my activity,

>>> which

>>> makes it a bit difficult to undo them. I have a letter in to

>>> AnswersThatWork

>>> to see if they keep some kind of activity log.

>>>

>>> I'm posting this to see if anyone has seen this peculiarity before, or

>>> even

>>> if it rings a bell as to what I may have changed that might be associated

>>> with it.

>>

>>

>> --

>> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom





--

Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

 

[BudV]

I hope you guys are still around. I got sidetracked on a mail-handling

problem for the same PC.



When I boot in safe mode, the icons are all squeezed together as you know,

and the problem does not occur. I think this reinforces the thought (in the

paragraph below) that something is failing in whatever startup routine that

handles the layout and initialization of the desktop icons, and the BR icon

is the last one processed. (?)



I'm pretty sure I did a system restore when the problem first showed up. I

don't want to back up that far now, because of recent activity.



Because multiple user accounts (Mother and child) were giving us a pain

where a pill can't reach, with all its security warnings, we run with a

single administrator-user. Frankly, I'm hesitant to remove users, for fear

of losing Mom's data.



"Billns" wrote in message

news:eos7vCYwKHA.732@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> On 3/10/2010 9:33 PM, BudV wrote:

>> I added a new icon near the top of the desktop, and the restart

>> highlighted the old BR icon. When I moved the new icon down so that it

>> was now the BR icon, it got the highlight after the restart. I'm sure

>> that, whatever path the system takes through the icons to put in the

>> pictures and words and other stuff, the last one processed is that BR

>> icon, and for some reason, the "desktop initializing routine" has

>> stopped doing what I've always called "ending housekeeping", which

>> probably includes un-highlighting the last icon and other wrap-up

>> functions. Question is, who's the culprit?

>>

> Hard to say.

>

> Have you tried booting in safe mode to see if the problem occurs there?

> Have you tried a system restore to a date before you had this problem?

> Have you tried creating a new user account, then deleting the offending

> one?

>

> Sorry if I missed your mentioning safe mode, new user or system restore in

> previous messages. I skimmed through this thread.

>

> Bill

>

 

[BudV]

Gene, if you're still around, I've got mixed news.



The problem is associated with the theme (Right-click on desktop >

Personalize > Theme), and the fix deals, more or less, with changing the

theme. I won't go into details, but the link below will take you to the

thread where I got the critical help. It seems to be a strong help site,

and the guy-in-charge says somewhere that if you post a problem that doesn't

get replies for several days, he will give his personal attention to finding

a solution (or words to that effect). I'm suitably impressed.



http://www.techsupportforum.com/mic...-vista-desktop-shortcuts-mess-up-startup.html

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:10:54 -0500, BudV wrote:



> Gene, if you're still around, I've got mixed news.

>

> The problem is associated with the theme (Right-click on desktop >

> Personalize > Theme), and the fix deals, more or less, with changing the

> theme. I won't go into details, but the link below will take you to the

> thread where I got the critical help. It seems to be a strong help site,

> and the guy-in-charge says somewhere that if you post a problem that doesn't

> get replies for several days, he will give his personal attention to finding

> a solution (or words to that effect). I'm suitably impressed.

>

> http://www.techsupportforum.com/mic...-vista-desktop-shortcuts-mess-up-startup.html



I seem to be confused again



While looking at that forum, a thought occurred to me: I have no idea

whether any of my desktop icons is highlighted when I restart. I just don't

pay attention, even after reading this thread. Bad boy...



BTW, I am also not sure about your and JenaE's distinction between restart

& reboot... I guess you mean one of them involves powering down.



Let me also add something about hyphens. The command in JenaE's post wasn't

"- powercfg". She (I am assuming the gender is feminine) was just using

":-" as a punctuation mark the way you & I might use a colon alone. Not

unique to JenaE, I might add, but not common in the USA.



--

Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

 

[Bud Vitoff]

The hyphens might be an Australian thing.



I tried to make the distinction between reboot and restart, and I'm not sure

I got through to her. You're right. In my opinion, reboot means powering

down, and restart doesn't. I'm convinced that this is a software thing, not

a hardware thing, and therefore restarting should be all that's required,

but since she was helping me, I wasn't going to fight with her about it.



In any event, she did point me in the right direction on this thing. I

don't think the two other fixes (icon cache and hibernation) have anything

to do with it. I experimented a lot with changing the themes, and at first

I thought I was having some success, but it was short-lived. My daughter

felt it wasn't that big a deal -- more of small nuisance -- so I gave up.

But dammit, you can't be a persnickety programmer for 50+ years and leave a

bug lying around. Now that you've been exposed to the new clues, do you

have any other insights that might help? I'm ready to call Microsoft and

pay for a fix. That could be messy, though, because they would use

Easy-Assist to take over my machine, which is fine with me, but since it

involves rebooting/restarting, we would be constantly breaking and

re-establishing the connection; thereby providing a pain where a pill can't

reach.



I'm glad you're still watching. I need the moral support,





On 4/5/10 4:16 PM, in article 1je366pkhg0tl$.t5zghqwtbyam.dlg@40tude.net,

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote:



> On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:10:54 -0500, BudV wrote:

>

>> Gene, if you're still around, I've got mixed news.

>>

>> The problem is associated with the theme (Right-click on desktop >

>> Personalize > Theme), and the fix deals, more or less, with changing the

>> theme. I won't go into details, but the link below will take you to the

>> thread where I got the critical help. It seems to be a strong help site,

>> and the guy-in-charge says somewhere that if you post a problem that doesn't

>> get replies for several days, he will give his personal attention to finding

>> a solution (or words to that effect). I'm suitably impressed.

>>

>> http://www.techsupportforum.com/microsoft-support/windows-vista-windows-7-sup

>> port/467343-vista-desktop-shortcuts-mess-up-startup.html

>

> I seem to be confused again

>

> While looking at that forum, a thought occurred to me: I have no idea

> whether any of my desktop icons is highlighted when I restart. I just don't

> pay attention, even after reading this thread. Bad boy...

>

> BTW, I am also not sure about your and JenaE's distinction between restart

> & reboot... I guess you mean one of them involves powering down.

>

> Let me also add something about hyphens. The command in JenaE's post wasn't

> "- powercfg". She (I am assuming the gender is feminine) was just using

> ":-" as a punctuation mark the way you & I might use a colon alone. Not

> unique to JenaE, I might add, but not common in the USA.