Diskwipe, then XP reinstall

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On 6/9/2010 7:50 AM, Daave wrote:

> Assuming you are indeed malware-free and that your hard drive is still

> in the correct mode (DMA), you either need to add more RAM or uninstall

> McAfee and Webroot and go with better replacements. (A Clean Install

> will *not* help you with your performance if you intend to reinstall

> McAfee and Webroot!) I would use Avira AntiVir for your antivirus

> program and MalwareByte's AntiMalware and SUPERAntiSpyware for your

> non-viral anti-malware programs.

>

> But, again, to determine if you are relying too heavily on your pagefile

> (a definite cause of sluggishness!), open Task Manager (Ctrl+Alt+Del)

> and click the Performance tab. Then note the three values under Commit

> Charge (K): in the lower left-hand corner: Total, Limit, and Peak. (In

> your screen shot, at the bottom, I was able to see Total and Limit. But

> Peak is important, too!)

>

> The Total figure represents the amount of memory you are using at that

> very moment. The Peak figure represents the highest amount of memory you

> used since last bootup. If both these figures are below the value of

> Physical Memory (K) Total, then you probably have plenty of RAM.

> In case you want to explore this further, you may run Page File Monitor

> for Windows XP:

>

> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm

>

>

>

> David wrote:

>> For context, my initial OP post, dated 30 May, is at the bottom of

>> this post in case it has been lost from your thread. You folks gave

>> me a lot of homework, and I have only now gotten far enough along

>> with that to make a meaningful response.

>>

>> This post is directed primarily at Jose and Daave, who both

>> encouraged me to try and fix my existing system rather than to

>> "Diskwipe and Reinstall". I don't know whether I am up to this task,

>> but here is an initial thrust:

>>

>> First of all, let me say that I feel quite sure that there is no

>> malware problem with the system. I have had both McAfee and Webroot

>> SpySweeper running for several years now. I know that they are

>> resource hogs, but they have kept me out of trouble so far. I will

>> probably take your advice though and go with "lighter" products when

>> their subscriptions expire. I should note here, however, that the

>> subject system slowdown has happened (albeit gradually) long after

>> these two products were initially installed.

>>

>> Regarding the DMA/PIO issue, I have attempted to describe it in words

>> but finally gave up. There appear to be four combinations of

>> answers, not easily described, so I am just including images: (This

>> is my first attempt to try to use an image hosting service like this

>> with USENET, so I hope it works. If anyone has trouble viewing

>> these, please tell me.)

>>

>> http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9924/primaryidechannel.jpg

>>

>> http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8333/secondaryidechannel.jpg

>>

>> If I can presume that I have passed the malware and PIO tests, then

>> here is a text file of my msinfo32 file:

>>

>> msinfo32 Summary 9 June 2010

>>

>> OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

>> Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600

>> OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation

>> System Name [Snip]

>> System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation

>> System Model Dimension 4550

>> System Type X86-based PC

>> Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2657 Mhz

>> BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A03, 11/12/2002

>> SMBIOS Version 2.3

>> Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS

>> System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32

>> Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2

>> Locale United States

>> Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.5512

>> (xpsp.080413-2111)"

>> User Name [Snip]

>> Time Zone SE Asia Standard Time

>> Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB

>> Available Physical Memory 58.03 MB

>> Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB

>> Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB

>> Page File Space 1.22 GB

>> Page File C:\pagefile.sys

>>

>> And here is a text file of my CCleaner startup file:

>>

>> Yes HKCU:Run ctfmon.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe"

>> Yes HKLM:Run ATIPTA "C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI

>> Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe"

>> Yes HKLM:Run Adobe Photo Downloader "C:\Program Files\Photoshop

>> Elements\apdproxy.exe"

>> Yes HKLM:Run Microsoft Works Portfolio "C:\Program

>> Files\Microsoft Works\WksSb.exe" /AllUsers

>> Yes HKLM:Run nmctxth "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Pure

>> Networks Shared\Platform\nmctxth.exe"

>> Yes HKLM:Run nmapp "C:\Program Files\Pure Networks\Network

>> Magic\nmapp.exe" -autorun -nosplash

>> Yes HKLM:Run SunJavaUpdateSched "C:\Program

>> Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe"

>> Yes HKLM:Run mcui_exe "C:\Program

>> Files\McAfee.com\Agent\mcagent.exe" /runkey

>> Yes HKLM:Run WorksFUD "C:\Program Files\Microsoft

>> Works\wkfud.exe"

>> Yes HKLM:Run SpySweeper "C:\Program

>> Files\Webroot\WebrootSecurity\SpySweeperUI.exe" /startintray

>> Yes Startup Common Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk C:\Program

>> Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe

>> Yes Startup Common Microsoft Office.lnk C:\Program Files\Microsoft

>> Office\Office10\OSA.EXE

>> Yes Startup Common Microsoft Works Calendar Reminders.lnk C:\Program

>> Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\wkcalrem.exe

>>

>> (If you are wondering what Pure Networks\Network Magic is, it's a

>> "pretty-GUI" network management program for people who aren't very

>> smart about networks. That's me.)

>>

>> And here is an image of my Task Manager's process tab:

>>

>> http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9181/taskmanagere.jpg

>>

>> Please note that at your suggestion I have already downloaded and ran

>> "Autoruns.exe", and have already disabled a number of items before the

>> above taskmanager snapshot was taken. These already appear to have

>> increased the processing speed noticeably.

>>

>> Also please note that I am not so concerned about the time required

>> for the system startup. I am much more concerned about the

>> processing speed once startup has completed. Anything you can tell

>> me to help to increase that speed will be greatly appreciated.

>>

>> Finally, I am attempting to provide you a lot of information above in

>> ways that I have never done before, so if some of it doesn't work, or

>> doesn't make sense, please tell me and I will try again. Suggestions

>> welcome.

>>

>> Thanks again, guys!

>>

>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>

>> On Sun, 30 May 2010 11:41:24 +0700, David

>> wrote:

>>

>>> This question has probably been asked before, but I can't figure out

>>> how to search for it. Apologies. If you can point me to a thread I

>>> will be happy to go there.

>>>

>>> I have an old Dell PC,( vintage 2003), with XP Home Edition. It

>>> has been updated regularly, so the XP version is current. But the

>>> machine is so burdened with junk software that it can barely crawl

>>> anymore. I need to wipe the disk and re-install XP.

>>>

>>> I have the original SP-1 reinstallation disk that was provided by

>>> Dell with the purchase.

>>>

>>> My question: What is the best way to bring the re-install up to the

>>> current release version?

>>>

>>> Thank you very much, in advance.




You can breathe new life into your system, I would consider the following:

- get at least 2GB of RAM total

- remove the items below from the startup

- if you can *overclock it I would research that so you understand how

to protect your cpu from overheating while getting more performance out

of it.

*http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4550/specs.htm#1101572

Intel® Pentium® 4 microprocessor that runs at 1.80, 1.90, 2.0, or 2.20

GHz internally and 400 MHz externally; or 2.26, 2.4, 2.53, 2.66, 2.8, or

3.06 GHz internally and 533 MHz externally

- tell us what kind of video card you have



You can use Mike Lin Startup cpl if you want a nice gui (it will place a

new icon "Startup" in the control panel and you can check or uncheck

startup entries quickly, easily, and reversibly).



ATIPTA "C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI

Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe"



Adobe Photo Downloader "C:\Program Files\Photoshop

Elements\apdproxy.exe"



Microsoft Works Portfolio "C:\Program

Files\Microsoft Works\WksSb.exe" /AllUsers



nmctxth "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Pure

Networks Shared\Platform\nmctxth.exe"



nmapp "C:\Program Files\Pure Networks\Network

Magic\nmapp.exe" -autorun -nosplash



SunJavaUpdateSched "C:\Program

Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe"



WorksFUD "C:\Program Files\Microsoft

Works\wkfud.exe"



Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk C:\Program

Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe



Microsoft Office.lnk C:\Program Files\Microsoft

Office\Office10\OSA.EXE



Microsoft Works Calendar Reminders.lnk C:\Program

Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\wkcalrem.exe



Mike
 
On 5/29/2010 9:41 PM, David wrote:

> This question has probably been asked before, but I can't figure out how to

> search for it. Apologies. If you can point me to a thread I will be happy

> to go there.

>

> I have an old Dell PC,( vintage 2003), with XP Home Edition. It has been

> updated regularly, so the XP version is current. But the machine is so

> burdened with junk software that it can barely crawl anymore. I need to

> wipe the disk and re-install XP.

>

> I have the original SP-1 reinstallation disk that was provided by Dell with

> the purchase.

>

> My question: What is the best way to bring the re-install up to the current

> release version?

>

> Thank you very much, in advance.




RAM discussions you may find interesting:



http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/itproxpsp/thread/83584c69-a000-42cd-9f16-d40cd69d8011



http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...PC_Windows_Vista_Capable_barely_hits_the_mark



http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080408225454AAwpTgy



Also visual effects can impact performance



http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-5030748.html



http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/personalize/performance.mspx
 
On Jun 9, 9:30 am, David wrote:

> For context, my initial OP post, dated 30 May, is at the bottom of this

> post in case it has been lost from your thread.  You folks gave me a lot of

> homework, and I have only now gotten far enough along with that to make a

> meaningful response.

>

> This post is directed primarily at Jose and Daave, who both encouraged me

> to try and fix my existing system rather than to "Diskwipe and Reinstall"..

> I don't know whether I am up to this task, but here is an initial thrust:

>

> First of all, let me say that I feel quite sure that there is no malware

> problem with the system.  I have had both McAfee and Webroot SpySweeper

> running for several years now.  I know that they are resource hogs, but

> they have kept me out of trouble so far.  I will probably take your advice

> though and go with "lighter" products when their subscriptions expire.  I

> should note here, however, that the subject system slowdown has happened

> (albeit gradually) long after these two products were initially installed..

>

> Regarding the DMA/PIO issue, I have attempted to describe it in words but

> finally gave up.  There appear to be four combinations of answers, not

> easily described, so I am just including images:  (This is my first attempt

> to try to use an image hosting service like this with USENET, so I hope it

> works.  If anyone has trouble viewing these, please tell me.)

>

> http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9924/primaryidechannel.jpg

>

> http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8333/secondaryidechannel.jpg

>

> If I can presume that I have passed the malware and PIO tests, then here is

> a text file of my msinfo32 file:

>

> msinfo32   Summary    9 June 2010

>

> OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

> Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600

> OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation

> System Name     [Snip]

> System Manufacturer     Dell Computer Corporation

> System Model    Dimension 4550

> System Type     X86-based PC

> Processor       x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2657Mhz

> BIOS Version/Date       Dell Computer Corporation A03, 11/12/2002

> SMBIOS Version  2.3

> Windows Directory       C:\WINDOWS

> System Directory        C:\WINDOWS\system32

> Boot Device     \Device\HarddiskVolume2

> Locale  United States

> Hardware Abstraction Layer      Version = "5.1.2600.5512

> (xpsp.080413-2111)"

> User Name       [Snip]

> Time Zone       SE Asia Standard Time

> Total Physical Memory   512.00 MB

> Available Physical Memory       58.03 MB

> Total Virtual Memory    2.00 GB

> Available Virtual Memory        1.96 GB

> Page File Space 1.22 GB

> Page File       C:\pagefile.sys

>

> And here is a text file of my CCleaner startup file:

>

> Yes     HKCU:Run        ctfmon.exe      "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe"

> Yes     HKLM:Run        ATIPTA  "C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI

> Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe"

> Yes     HKLM:Run        Adobe Photo Downloader  "C:\ProgramFiles\Photoshop

> Elements\apdproxy.exe"

> Yes     HKLM:Run        Microsoft Works Portfolio      "C:\Program

> Files\Microsoft Works\WksSb.exe" /AllUsers

> Yes     HKLM:Run        nmctxth "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Pure

> Networks Shared\Platform\nmctxth.exe"

> Yes     HKLM:Run        nmapp   "C:\Program Files\Pure Networks\Network

> Magic\nmapp.exe" -autorun -nosplash

> Yes     HKLM:Run        SunJavaUpdateSched      "C:\Program

> Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe"

> Yes     HKLM:Run        mcui_exe        "C:\Program

> Files\McAfee.com\Agent\mcagent.exe" /runkey

> Yes     HKLM:Run        WorksFUD        "C:\Program Files\Microsoft

> Works\wkfud.exe"

> Yes     HKLM:Run        SpySweeper      "C:\Program

> Files\Webroot\WebrootSecurity\SpySweeperUI.exe" /startintray

> Yes     Startup Common  Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk   C:\Program

> Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe

> Yes     Startup Common  Microsoft Office.lnk    C:\Program Files\Microsoft

> Office\Office10\OSA.EXE

> Yes     Startup Common  Microsoft Works Calendar Reminders.lnk  C:\Program

> Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\wkcalrem.exe

>

> (If you are wondering what Pure Networks\Network Magic is, it's a

> "pretty-GUI" network management program for people who aren't very smart

> about networks. That's me.)

>

> And here is an image of my Task Manager's process tab:

>

> http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9181/taskmanagere.jpg

>

> Please note that at your suggestion I have already downloaded and ran

> "Autoruns.exe", and have already disabled a number of items before the

> above taskmanager snapshot was taken.  These already appear to have

> increased the processing speed noticeably.

>

> Also please note that I am not so concerned about the time required for the

> system startup.  I am much more concerned about the processing speed once

> startup has completed.  Anything you can tell me to help to increase that

> speed will be greatly appreciated.

>

> Finally, I am attempting to provide you a lot of information above in ways

> that I have never done before, so if some of it doesn't work, or doesn't

> make sense, please tell me and I will try again.  Suggestions welcome.

>

> Thanks again, guys!

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

>

>

> On Sun, 30 May 2010 11:41:24 +0700, David wrote:

> >This question has probably been asked before, but I can't figure out howto

> >search for it.  Apologies.  If you can point me to a thread I will be happy

> >to go there.


>

> >I have an old Dell PC,( vintage 2003), with  XP Home Edition.  It has been

> >updated regularly, so the XP version is current.  But the machine is so

> >burdened with junk software that it can barely crawl anymore.  I need to

> >wipe the disk and re-install XP.


>

> >I have the original SP-1 reinstallation disk that was provided by Dell with

> >the purchase.


>

> >My question: What is the best way to bring the re-install up to the current

> >release version?


>

> >Thank you very much, in advance.




That is all very good information.



You can see from TM where your Virtual Memory is going (at least you

do not have the Spybot Teatimer!), but if you are not getting the

infomational message that XP s increasing the size of your paging file

(are you?) then XP would seem to be happy. If you have some $$$, get

a meg or two, but you have more than me so I am jealous.



You do have some things running you probably do not need. The good

part is, you can now use CCleaner to just disable the startup items,

reboot and see how things look. I have zero startup items, but

sometimes you need to have some depending on your situation and the

way you like to operate.



Disabling things does not uninstall things. If you reboot and

something is not right, reenable the item and reboot.



Before disabling things you may want to research them a bit and see

what they do and if they help or hurt your perfomance.



Right away I would disable:



ctfmon (read about it and see if you ever use it - probably not).



reader_sl.exe (Adobe Speed Launcher installs automatically when you

install their reader - boo!)



jusched.exe (the Java updater) I usually see disabling this shave

15-30+ seconds off a reboot time and you can still update Java when I

feel like it and I see no degradation in any WWW page performance (and

I measure carefully). It is a reboot/startup pig.



That McAfee stuff gives me the creeps. I don't like McAfee personally

and don't remember if it installs Services along with those startup

items, but you can see from Task Manager it is a virtual memory hog.

I am not going to install McAfee to find out either, but you can

disable them temporarily and see how things look after a reboot.



Ditto on SpySweeper - don't know how it will effect your day to day

stuff, disable it, reboot and see.



I have no kind of real time protection for the Internet by choice - it

slows me down and I don't go places I am likely to pick up anything -

unless I do it on purpose for testing. That bare naked environment

may not be right for you, but the more protection you have going on,

the slower things are going to be - but better performance comes with

some risk for some folks. More protection is not always good - you

can overdo things by applying too many layers (this happens a lot).



I don't recall if you can disable just parts of McAfee or not - you

probably do not want it scanning emails for example or all your

Internet traffic, etc. You will have to look at the options or

somebody else can tell you more about it. It may do "everything" on a

default install.. You can certainly disable it all right now, reboot

and browse the Internet intelligently and safely and test your usual

activities you like to do and maybe you will say - wow, this is great

but I feel too vulnerable and will pay the penalty in performance for

more protection.



With CClearner you can disable everything and turn them back on one at

a time, or turn them off one at a time (I would definitely turn off

the 3 I mentioned before).



Some things I do not recognize, but you probably do and you can

disable them, reboot and enable them again and take a look at things

now.



Now you know how to look at your Task Manager a bit and see what

effects the changes have (this is good to know).



You can post screen shots now too - this is a big help so we are not

guessing what is going on.



You have the tools now to start adjusting things. Make some changes,

see how it goes and come back with results, problems, questions...



When you get settled down with some adjustments, we can take a look at

your XP Services - waayyyyy too many probably.
 
Thanks, Daave,



1) Do the two images I sent (primary and secondary IDE channels) indicate

to you that I am indeed running DMA? I don't understand them completely.

Why does one of them indicate PIO?



2) At your suggestion, I have been monitoring Total, Peak, and Limit for

several weeks now. Total and Peak have consistently been well below Limit,

so I am understanding from you that RAM should be O.K. Please do correct

me if you still think I need to pursue this further with your dougknox

link.



3) Points well taken re McAfee & Webroot!







On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:50:28 -0400, "Daave" wrote:



>Assuming you are indeed malware-free and that your hard drive is still

>in the correct mode (DMA), you either need to add more RAM or uninstall

>McAfee and Webroot and go with better replacements. (A Clean Install

>will *not* help you with your performance if you intend to reinstall

>McAfee and Webroot!) I would use Avira AntiVir for your antivirus

>program and MalwareByte's AntiMalware and SUPERAntiSpyware for your

>non-viral anti-malware programs.

>

>But, again, to determine if you are relying too heavily on your pagefile

>(a definite cause of sluggishness!), open Task Manager (Ctrl+Alt+Del)

>and click the Performance tab. Then note the three values under Commit

>Charge (K): in the lower left-hand corner: Total, Limit, and Peak. (In

>your screen shot, at the bottom, I was able to see Total and Limit. But

>Peak is important, too!)

>

>The Total figure represents the amount of memory you are using at that

>very moment. The Peak figure represents the highest amount of memory you

>used since last bootup. If both these figures are below the value of

>Physical Memory (K) Total, then you probably have plenty of RAM.

>In case you want to explore this further, you may run Page File Monitor

>for Windows XP:

>

>http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm

>

>

>

>David wrote:

>> For context, my initial OP post, dated 30 May, is at the bottom of

>> this post in case it has been lost from your thread. You folks gave

>> me a lot of homework, and I have only now gotten far enough along

>> with that to make a meaningful response.

>>

>> This post is directed primarily at Jose and Daave, who both

>> encouraged me to try and fix my existing system rather than to

>> "Diskwipe and Reinstall". I don't know whether I am up to this task,

>> but here is an initial thrust:

>>

>> First of all, let me say that I feel quite sure that there is no

>> malware problem with the system. I have had both McAfee and Webroot

>> SpySweeper running for several years now. I know that they are

>> resource hogs, but they have kept me out of trouble so far. I will

>> probably take your advice though and go with "lighter" products when

>> their subscriptions expire. I should note here, however, that the

>> subject system slowdown has happened (albeit gradually) long after

>> these two products were initially installed.

>>

>> Regarding the DMA/PIO issue, I have attempted to describe it in words

>> but finally gave up. There appear to be four combinations of

>> answers, not easily described, so I am just including images: (This

>> is my first attempt to try to use an image hosting service like this

>> with USENET, so I hope it works. If anyone has trouble viewing

>> these, please tell me.)

>>

>> http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9924/primaryidechannel.jpg

>>

>> http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8333/secondaryidechannel.jpg

>>

>> If I can presume that I have passed the malware and PIO tests, then

>> here is a text file of my msinfo32 file:

>>

>> msinfo32 Summary 9 June 2010

>>

>> OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

>> Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600

>> OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation

>> System Name [Snip]

>> System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation

>> System Model Dimension 4550

>> System Type X86-based PC

>> Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2657 Mhz

>> BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A03, 11/12/2002

>> SMBIOS Version 2.3

>> Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS

>> System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32

>> Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2

>> Locale United States

>> Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.5512

>> (xpsp.080413-2111)"

>> User Name [Snip]

>> Time Zone SE Asia Standard Time

>> Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB

>> Available Physical Memory 58.03 MB

>> Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB

>> Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB

>> Page File Space 1.22 GB

>> Page File C:\pagefile.sys

>>

>> And here is a text file of my CCleaner startup file:

>>

>> Yes HKCU:Run ctfmon.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe"

>> Yes HKLM:Run ATIPTA "C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI

>> Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe"

>> Yes HKLM:Run Adobe Photo Downloader "C:\Program Files\Photoshop

>> Elements\apdproxy.exe"

>> Yes HKLM:Run Microsoft Works Portfolio "C:\Program

>> Files\Microsoft Works\WksSb.exe" /AllUsers

>> Yes HKLM:Run nmctxth "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Pure

>> Networks Shared\Platform\nmctxth.exe"

>> Yes HKLM:Run nmapp "C:\Program Files\Pure Networks\Network

>> Magic\nmapp.exe" -autorun -nosplash

>> Yes HKLM:Run SunJavaUpdateSched "C:\Program

>> Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe"

>> Yes HKLM:Run mcui_exe "C:\Program

>> Files\McAfee.com\Agent\mcagent.exe" /runkey

>> Yes HKLM:Run WorksFUD "C:\Program Files\Microsoft

>> Works\wkfud.exe"

>> Yes HKLM:Run SpySweeper "C:\Program

>> Files\Webroot\WebrootSecurity\SpySweeperUI.exe" /startintray

>> Yes Startup Common Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk C:\Program

>> Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe

>> Yes Startup Common Microsoft Office.lnk C:\Program Files\Microsoft

>> Office\Office10\OSA.EXE

>> Yes Startup Common Microsoft Works Calendar Reminders.lnk C:\Program

>> Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\wkcalrem.exe

>>

>> (If you are wondering what Pure Networks\Network Magic is, it's a

>> "pretty-GUI" network management program for people who aren't very

>> smart about networks. That's me.)

>>

>> And here is an image of my Task Manager's process tab:

>>

>> http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9181/taskmanagere.jpg

>>

>> Please note that at your suggestion I have already downloaded and ran

>> "Autoruns.exe", and have already disabled a number of items before the

>> above taskmanager snapshot was taken. These already appear to have

>> increased the processing speed noticeably.

>>

>> Also please note that I am not so concerned about the time required

>> for the system startup. I am much more concerned about the

>> processing speed once startup has completed. Anything you can tell

>> me to help to increase that speed will be greatly appreciated.

>>

>> Finally, I am attempting to provide you a lot of information above in

>> ways that I have never done before, so if some of it doesn't work, or

>> doesn't make sense, please tell me and I will try again. Suggestions

>> welcome.

>>

>> Thanks again, guys!

>>


>
 
Thanks, Mike,



1) Please note my comment above to Daave re RAM. I am sensing a

difference of opinion here, but am not smart enough to understand the

difference. Can you please explain? (Not being critical, just trying to

understand.)



2) I think I'm gettting in over my head with overclocking -- but I will

study your link



3) The video adaptor is 128 DDR ATI Radeon 9700 TX



4) I've just become familiar with Autoruns. Can you please give me a

comparison with the Mike Lin Startup? (Since they are both new to me.)



5) Thank you for ID'ing the startup items below. I will go after them!







On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:46:55 -0700, Mike S wrote:

>

>You can breathe new life into your system, I would consider the following:

>- get at least 2GB of RAM total

>- remove the items below from the startup

>- if you can *overclock it I would research that so you understand how

>to protect your cpu from overheating while getting more performance out

>of it.

>*http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4550/specs.htm#1101572

>Intel® Pentium® 4 microprocessor that runs at 1.80, 1.90, 2.0, or 2.20

>GHz internally and 400 MHz externally; or 2.26, 2.4, 2.53, 2.66, 2.8, or

>3.06 GHz internally and 533 MHz externally

>- tell us what kind of video card you have

>

>You can use Mike Lin Startup cpl if you want a nice gui (it will place a

>new icon "Startup" in the control panel and you can check or uncheck

>startup entries quickly, easily, and reversibly).

>

>ATIPTA "C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI

>Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe"

>

>Adobe Photo Downloader "C:\Program Files\Photoshop

>Elements\apdproxy.exe"

>

>Microsoft Works Portfolio "C:\Program

>Files\Microsoft Works\WksSb.exe" /AllUsers

>

>nmctxth "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Pure

>Networks Shared\Platform\nmctxth.exe"

>

>nmapp "C:\Program Files\Pure Networks\Network

>Magic\nmapp.exe" -autorun -nosplash

>

>SunJavaUpdateSched "C:\Program

>Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe"

>

>WorksFUD "C:\Program Files\Microsoft

>Works\wkfud.exe"

>

>Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk C:\Program

>Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe

>

>Microsoft Office.lnk C:\Program Files\Microsoft

>Office\Office10\OSA.EXE

>

>Microsoft Works Calendar Reminders.lnk C:\Program

>Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\wkcalrem.exe

>

>Mike
 
YW. The rest of my reply is inline.



David wrote:

> Thanks, Daave,

>

> 1) Do the two images I sent (primary and secondary IDE channels)

> indicate to you that I am indeed running DMA? I don't understand

> them completely. Why does one of them indicate PIO?




One is for the hard drive and the other for the optical drive. I am sure

the hard drive is on the primary IDE channel and is using Ultra DMA Mode

5. That is good to know. :-)



> 2) At your suggestion, I have been monitoring Total, Peak, and Limit

> for several weeks now. Total and Peak have consistently been well

> below Limit, so I am understanding from you that RAM should be O.K.




Not necessarily! The Limit includes your pagefile, so that's *not* what

you compare it to! Rather, compare it to the Physical Memory (that is,

the actual RAM). The Commit Charge listed in your screen shot is

dangerously close to the amount of physical RAM (not good!). And that

figure corresponds to Total, that is the amount at the time you took the

screen shot. But there are other times, too! Peak is necessary to know,

too. And I'm sure that that value is significantly higher than 501MB!

And that would explain the phenomenon known as "paging."



There is a portion of your hard drive (which is *much* slower than RAM)

that is devoted to some of your system's memory needs (the pagefile).

Your goal is to utilize your RAM for all your memory needs and *not* the

pagefile (with some exceptions). Once you rely on the pagefile,

performance crawls. It will crawl even if you don't see any warnings

that your pagefile needs to be resized. The point is to have enough

physical RAM so that you do not rely on the pagefile. It's possible you

don't even need to purchase more RAM. As long as you run lean

(memory-wise), 512MB RAM might very well be all you need.



That being said, if you choose not to run lean and keep McAfee and

Webroot on your system, adding more RAM might be all you need to boost

performace, too. But McAfee (and maybe even Webroot?) is still known to

hog CPU cycles, too, so maybe not!



> Please do correct me if you still think I need to pursue this further

> with your dougknox link.




That would give you the most accurate information. It's easy to do; I'd

do it.



> 3) Points well taken re McAfee & Webroot!




Yup. Those are the biggest memory hogs. Unisntalling them and replacing

them with the programs already mentioned might very well be all you need

to boost performance. You have received other suggestions, too, about

unnecessary startup programs. The best way to stop them from loading,

however, is to go into the Preferences or Settings section of each

program and configure them not to run at startup. Using msconfig or

other startup managers might work, too, but in some cases, these tricky

programs (like QuickTime and, I believe, Java) place yet another entry

in the startup cue and it's cat and mouse! When I have more time, I'll

provide suggestions to disable certain startups included in your list.



Also keep in mind that if you never use the program anymore, you might

as well uninstall it. :-)



You might want to replace Adobe Reader with the much leaner Foxit PDF

Reader.
 
On 6/9/2010 6:15 PM, David wrote:

> Thanks, Mike,

>

> 1) Please note my comment above to Daave re RAM. I am sensing a

> difference of opinion here, but am not smart enough to understand the

> difference. Can you please explain? (Not being critical, just trying to

> understand.)




I think you're in good hands with Daave, if you determine that you don't

need more physical RAM after studying your actual RAM usage then you

should be fine.



> 2) I think I'm gettting in over my head with overclocking -- but I will

> study your link

>

> 3) The video adaptor is 128 DDR ATI Radeon 9700 TX




Nice card! I wouldn't spend any money on a new video card just yet.



> 4) I've just become familiar with Autoruns. Can you please give me a

> comparison with the Mike Lin Startup? (Since they are both new to me.)




Autoruns has far more features than the Mike Lin Startup control panel

applet (is that the right name?), for my own use - when I want to just

add or remove something from Windows startup quickly that's what I use.

It's very easy to understand and use, but Autoruns has a lot more

features and you can learn a lot by using it and studying the various

features and what they deal with in your Windows setup.



> 5) Thank you for ID'ing the startup items below. I will go after them!




Preferably in a way that is reversible. I use a network magic program a

while ago, I can't remember what version, but on my old 2GHz Dell laptop

I remember that it slowed down the boot enough to notice.



My compliments on how thorough you are in your approach to learning

about windows, if you don't watch it you'll be doing maintenance on

parents, friends, neighbors, relatives, and classmates computers if

you're not already.



Mike



> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:46:55 -0700, Mike S wrote:

>>

>> You can breathe new life into your system, I would consider the following:

>> - get at least 2GB of RAM total

>> - remove the items below from the startup

>> - if you can *overclock it I would research that so you understand how

>> to protect your cpu from overheating while getting more performance out

>> of it.

>> *http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4550/specs.htm#1101572

>> Intel® Pentium® 4 microprocessor that runs at 1.80, 1.90, 2.0, or 2.20

>> GHz internally and 400 MHz externally; or 2.26, 2.4, 2.53, 2.66, 2.8, or

>> 3.06 GHz internally and 533 MHz externally

>> - tell us what kind of video card you have

>>

>> You can use Mike Lin Startup cpl if you want a nice gui (it will place a

>> new icon "Startup" in the control panel and you can check or uncheck

>> startup entries quickly, easily, and reversibly).

>>

>> ATIPTA "C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI

>> Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe"

>>

>> Adobe Photo Downloader "C:\Program Files\Photoshop

>> Elements\apdproxy.exe"

>>

>> Microsoft Works Portfolio "C:\Program

>> Files\Microsoft Works\WksSb.exe" /AllUsers

>>

>> nmctxth "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Pure

>> Networks Shared\Platform\nmctxth.exe"

>>

>> nmapp "C:\Program Files\Pure Networks\Network

>> Magic\nmapp.exe" -autorun -nosplash

>>

>> SunJavaUpdateSched "C:\Program

>> Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe"

>>

>> WorksFUD "C:\Program Files\Microsoft

>> Works\wkfud.exe"

>>

>> Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk C:\Program

>> Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe

>>

>> Microsoft Office.lnk C:\Program Files\Microsoft

>> Office\Office10\OSA.EXE

>>

>> Microsoft Works Calendar Reminders.lnk C:\Program

>> Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\wkcalrem.exe

>>

>> Mike


>
 
On Jun 9, 9:15 pm, David wrote:

> Thanks, Mike,

>

> 1)  Please note my comment above to Daave re RAM.  I am sensing a

> difference of opinion here, but am not smart enough to understand the

> difference.  Can you please explain?  (Not being critical, just trying to

> understand.)

>

> 2)  I think I'm gettting in over my head with overclocking -- but I will

> study your link

>

> 3)  The video adaptor is 128 DDR ATI Radeon 9700 TX

>

> 4)  I've just become familiar with Autoruns.  Can you please give me a

> comparison with the Mike Lin Startup?  (Since they are both new to me.)

>

> 5)  Thank you for ID'ing the startup items below.  I will go after them!

>

>

>

> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:46:55 -0700, Mike S wrote:

>

> >You can breathe new life into your system, I would consider the following:

> >- get at least 2GB of RAM total

> >- remove the items below from the startup

> >- if you can *overclock it I would research that so you understand how

> >to protect your cpu from overheating while  getting more performance out

> >of it.

> >*http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4550/specs.htm#1101572

> >Intel® Pentium® 4 microprocessor that runs at 1.80, 1.90, 2.0, or 2.20

> >GHz internally and 400 MHz externally; or 2.26, 2.4, 2.53, 2.66, 2.8, or

> >3.06 GHz internally and 533 MHz externally

> >- tell us what kind of video card you have


>

> >You can use Mike Lin Startup cpl if you want a nice gui (it will place a

> >new icon "Startup" in the control panel and you can check or uncheck

> >startup entries quickly, easily, and reversibly).


>

> >ATIPTA      "C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies\ATI

> >Control Panel\atiptaxx.exe"


>

> >Adobe Photo Downloader      "C:\Program Files\Photoshop

> >Elements\apdproxy.exe"


>

> >Microsoft Works Portfolio   "C:\Program

> >Files\Microsoft Works\WksSb.exe" /AllUsers


>

> >nmctxth     "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Pure

> >Networks Shared\Platform\nmctxth.exe"


>

> >nmapp       "C:\Program Files\Pure Networks\Network

> >Magic\nmapp.exe" -autorun -nosplash


>

> >SunJavaUpdateSched  "C:\Program

> >Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe"


>

> >WorksFUD    "C:\Program Files\Microsoft

> >Works\wkfud.exe"


>

> >Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk       C:\Program

> >Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe


>

> >Microsoft Office.lnk        C:\Program Files\Microsoft

> >Office\Office10\OSA.EXE


>

> >Microsoft Works Calendar Reminders.lnk      C:\Program

> >Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\wkcalrem.exe


>

> >Mike




More RAM is not the answer to ever woe.



There are too many solutions:



Add more RAM.



That does not always fix the problem, but may relieve the symptom of

the problem. It depends if you are a problem solver or a symptom

reliever.



I have half as much RAM as you and have learned to manage things to

make what I have work very efficiently.



You can already sense the difference of opinion about your RAM? There

should be no "opinion(s)". You either have a problem that can be

solved by more RAM or you don't. Don't get off in the weeds with

opinions.



Having less RAM can encourage you to learn how things really work and

then come up with solutions to use what you have instead of just

putting in more RAM. Sometimes when a problem is not understood, the

advice is just add more RAM. That means the problem is not

understood.



After you get things ironed out a bit and running the best you can

with what you have, THEN you can add more RAM - if your testing shows

you are RAM bound, but it would be nice to know for sure if you need

to or not. You will not have an opinion, you will have a fact.



Autoruns is fine and useful but "use Autoruns" is insufficient

advice. You need to know HOW to use Autoruns on your system, what

areas you might want to leave alone, where you really need to

concentrate your effort, and it is useful to have advance knowledge

that there is no quit without saving or undo with Autoruns.



Along with the "use autoruns" advice should come what to do with it,

how to do it, how to keep yourself out of trouble and what to do if

you happen to overdo things with Autoruns. It is a fine tool and I

recommend it but when I do, it comes with a bit more advice that just

"use Autoruns".
 
Mike S wrote:

> My compliments on how thorough you are in your approach to learning

> about windows, if you don't watch it you'll be doing maintenance on

> parents, friends, neighbors, relatives, and classmates computers if

> you're not already.




I agree that David is being quite thorough, taking the time to

thoughtfully synthesize all the info offered.
 
Suggestions are inline.



David wrote:



> And here is a text file of my CCleaner startup file:

>

> Yes HKCU:Run ctfmon.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe"




See these pages:



http://www.pchell.com/support/ctfmon.shtml



http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599





> Yes HKLM:Run SunJavaUpdateSched "C:\Program

> Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe"




Start | Control Panel | Java



Click on Update tab. Uncheck the box next to "Check for updates

automatically."



Click on Advanced tab. Expand Java Console. Select "Do not start

console."



Expand JRE Auto-Download. Select "Never Auto-Download."



Expand Miscellaneous. Uncheck those two boxes below.



Reboot.





> Yes HKLM:Run Microsoft Works Portfolio "C:\Program

> Files\Microsoft Works\WksSb.exe" /AllUsers

> Yes HKLM:Run WorksFUD "C:\Program Files\Microsoft

> Works\wkfud.exe"

> Yes Startup Common Microsoft Office.lnk C:\Program Files\Microsoft

> Office\Office10\OSA.EXE

> Yes Startup Common Microsoft Works Calendar Reminders.lnk C:\Program

> Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\wkcalrem.exe




Do you have Office *and* Works installed?



> Yes Startup Common Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk C:\Program

> Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe




As mentioned in another post, you should consider uninstalling Adobe

Reader and replacing with Foxit PDF Reader:



http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/reader/



(The Free Reader is on the left.)



But still, the biggest performance boost for you (short of adding RAM)

is to uninstall McAfee and WebRoot and replacing with Avira AntiVir,

MBAM, and SAS. You won't likely need to add RAM at that point. :-)
 
Thank you for the kind remarks, guys. I'm flattered.



But realize that I would still be nowhere without all the guidance and

recommendations from you experts.



You have given me a lot more homework that I still need to attend to.

And I will. And I will probably have to ask still more questions.



In the meanwhile, thanks again and best regards,



David







On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:59:06 -0400, "Daave" wrote:



>

>Mike S wrote:

>> My compliments on how thorough you are in your approach to learning

>> about windows, if you don't watch it you'll be doing maintenance on

>> parents, friends, neighbors, relatives, and classmates computers if

>> you're not already.


>

>I agree that David is being quite thorough, taking the time to

>thoughtfully synthesize all the info offered.

>
 
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