battery on the motherboard

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Good grief, I have never seen one. What brands of computers (if you know)

other than replacement supplies have

an on/off switch?

"Doum" wrote in message

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>I don't think so, check out the pictures on this page, they all have

> switches.

>

> http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category.aspx?Category=32&name=Power-Supplies

>

> I made sure to use the Newegg US page, the Canadian site is newegg.ca.

>

> By the the way Canadian and American electricity is the same, 60 hertz

> and some electricity used in US comes from Canada and some electricity

> used in Canada comes from US.

>

>

> "Unknown" écrivait

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>

>> Your computer is not a United States version. It probably is Canadian.

>> Electrical specs vary from country to country.

>> The US computers do not have on/off switches on the back of the power

>> supplies.

>> "Doum" wrote in message

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>>> NA écrivait news:4BB6675A.9090901@na.org:

>>>

>>>> On 4/2/2010 5:19 PM EDT, Unknown wrote:

>>>>> Simple common sense. Turn power off but leave line cord plugged in.

>>>>> (Provides static discharge path)

>>>>> Touch frame of computer before anything else (discharge static)

>>>>

>>>> Turning power off and leaving AC power cord plugged in is *not* a

>>>> good idea. This does not completely remove power from the

>>>> motherboard. The Standby +5VDC is still active even when the rest

>>>> of the power supply lines are off. This is used to power the

>>>> circuitry that controls the Power-On signal, and network card's

>>>> Wake-On-LAN capabilities. Always unplug the AC cord is the common

>>>> sense approach.

>>>

>>> My P4 and Core2Quad computers have Asus motherboards (retails) and

>>> Antec power supplies (retails).

>>>

>>> There are leds on the motherboards and ON/OFF (1/0) switches on the

>>> power supplies on the back of the towers.

>>>

>>> When I flip the power supplies to OFF (0), the leds on the

>>> motherboards go out and I am not able to turn on the computers from

>>> the power switch in front of the tower and I am pretty sure they

>>> would not power on using Wake-

>>> On-Lan or keyboard keystrokes. That tells me that there is NO power

>>> going to the MB and I can do maintenance such as replacing MB battery

>>> or memory on them without unplugging the power cord from the wall or

>>> power bar, I already replaced the battery on my P4 and added memory

>>> to the Core2Quad only turning the back switch OFF and no problems.

>>>

>>> The only time I unplug that cord, is when I take the towers outside

>>> to remove accumulated dust with air spray cans.

>>>

>>> Of course if the power supplies don't have the power switch like many

>>> OEM models, you need to unplug the power cord.

>>

>>

>>

>
 
What brand of computer do you have?

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message

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> Unknown wrote:

>> Your computer is not a United States version. It probably is Canadian.

>> Electrical specs vary from country to country.

>> The US computers do not have on/off switches on the back of the power

>> supplies.

>

> They do if they have half-way decent (as not bargain brand Chinese crap)

> power supplies. I won't buy a computer that doesn't have a separate

> switch directly on the power supply, and for the very reasons under

> discussion in this thread: When working inside the computer case, it's

> essential to have a reliable path to ground/earth. The plugged in power

> cord is the surest means of achieving this.

>

>

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My computers don't have brands and they use Antec power supplies and

cases.



If you buy a computer in a small specialized local computer shop, they

will build it themselves with parts you choose yourself and they usually

use good components like the ones on the Newegg page. If the customer

doesn't know enough and it's a good honest place, they will use quality

parts. They might be a little more expensive but I prefer those system

than HP, Acer, Dell, etc.



So, no I don't know any specific brand that has a power supply switch.



Sometimes those shop will put a logo of themselves on the tower but they

use parts that you can actually buy separately yourself and put them

together, it's not that hard, you usually only need a Phillips

screwdriver and some heatsink compound for the CPU.



For example, my Core2Quad was built by a local store, it has Antec power

supply and tower, Asus motherboard and video card, Intel processor,

Corsair memory and Western Digital hard drives.



The only branded computers I have ever bought, are laptops.







"Unknown" écrivait

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> Good grief, I have never seen one. What brands of computers (if you

> know) other than replacement supplies have

> an on/off switch?

> "Doum" wrote in message

> news:XnF9D50901662526doumdomainnet@207.46.248.16...

>>I don't think so, check out the pictures on this page, they all have

>> switches.

>>

>> http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category.aspx?Category=32&name=Power-Suppl

>> ies

>>

>> I made sure to use the Newegg US page, the Canadian site is

>> newegg.ca.

>>

>> By the the way Canadian and American electricity is the same, 60

>> hertz and some electricity used in US comes from Canada and some

>> electricity used in Canada comes from US.

>>

>>
 
We had HP and Dell workstations at work that all had on/off switches on the

PS. Both my Compaq SR1124NX and my SO's SR1320NX have the switch. I'm sure

there must be plenty more out there :-)

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"Unknown" wrote in message

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> Good grief, I have never seen one. What brands of computers (if you know)

> other than replacement supplies have

> an on/off switch?

> "Doum" wrote in message

> news:XnF9D50901662526doumdomainnet@207.46.248.16...

>>I don't think so, check out the pictures on this page, they all have

>> switches.

>>

>> http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category.aspx?Category=32&name=Power-Supplies

>>

>> I made sure to use the Newegg US page, the Canadian site is newegg.ca.

>>

>> By the the way Canadian and American electricity is the same, 60 hertz

>> and some electricity used in US comes from Canada and some electricity

>> used in Canada comes from US.

>>

>>

>> "Unknown" écrivait

>> news:#QPT0zB1KHA.5004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

>>

>>> Your computer is not a United States version. It probably is Canadian.

>>> Electrical specs vary from country to country.

>>> The US computers do not have on/off switches on the back of the power

>>> supplies.

>>> "Doum" wrote in message

>>> news:XnF9D5084EF467A3doumdomainnet@207.46.248.16...

>>>> NA écrivait news:4BB6675A.9090901@na.org:

>>>>

>>>>> On 4/2/2010 5:19 PM EDT, Unknown wrote:

>>>>>> Simple common sense. Turn power off but leave line cord plugged in.

>>>>>> (Provides static discharge path)

>>>>>> Touch frame of computer before anything else (discharge static)

>>>>>

>>>>> Turning power off and leaving AC power cord plugged in is *not* a

>>>>> good idea. This does not completely remove power from the

>>>>> motherboard. The Standby +5VDC is still active even when the rest

>>>>> of the power supply lines are off. This is used to power the

>>>>> circuitry that controls the Power-On signal, and network card's

>>>>> Wake-On-LAN capabilities. Always unplug the AC cord is the common

>>>>> sense approach.

>>>>

>>>> My P4 and Core2Quad computers have Asus motherboards (retails) and

>>>> Antec power supplies (retails).

>>>>

>>>> There are leds on the motherboards and ON/OFF (1/0) switches on the

>>>> power supplies on the back of the towers.

>>>>

>>>> When I flip the power supplies to OFF (0), the leds on the

>>>> motherboards go out and I am not able to turn on the computers from

>>>> the power switch in front of the tower and I am pretty sure they

>>>> would not power on using Wake-

>>>> On-Lan or keyboard keystrokes. That tells me that there is NO power

>>>> going to the MB and I can do maintenance such as replacing MB battery

>>>> or memory on them without unplugging the power cord from the wall or

>>>> power bar, I already replaced the battery on my P4 and added memory

>>>> to the Core2Quad only turning the back switch OFF and no problems.

>>>>

>>>> The only time I unplug that cord, is when I take the towers outside

>>>> to remove accumulated dust with air spray cans.

>>>>

>>>> Of course if the power supplies don't have the power switch like many

>>>> OEM models, you need to unplug the power cord.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>
 
Unknown wrote:

> What brand of computer do you have?

>





Custom-built; usually built by myself. I almost never purchase from

the OEMS. (However, my son's last HP Pavilion had a switch on the back

of the power supply.)





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On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:54:24 -0600, Bruce Chambers

wrote:



> Unknown wrote:

> > What brand of computer do you have?

> >

>

>

> Custom-built; usually built by myself. I almost never purchase from

> the OEMS. (However, my son's last HP Pavilion had a switch on the back

> of the power supply.)





I have four desktops in this room right now--three are custom-built,

and the fourth (my wife's) is a Dell. All four have switches on the

back of the power supply.



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"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>



> I have four desktops in this room right now--three are custom-built,

> and the fourth (my wife's) is a Dell. All four have switches on the

> back of the power supply.





Either you are a fibber or you have not bothered to buy your wife

a news system to replace her old Dell system because only VERY OLD

systems came with a switch; New ones DON'T. This applies to HP

systems as well.



The only way to control electricity is via on the wall On/Off

Switch. Are you talking about this sort of switch? If so then

you are definitely residing in a modern house because only modern

houses have electricity. People living in caves like that well

known terrorists {wanted dead or alive} hasn't seen a switch for

years!



I wonder how is your wife able to run the latest operating system

on her crap system? you are a very cold, calculated cruel

b@stard!



hth



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> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:54:24 -0600, Bruce Chambers

> wrote:

>

>> Unknown wrote:

>>> What brand of computer do you have?

>>>

>>

>> Custom-built; usually built by myself. I almost never purchase from

>> the OEMS. (However, my son's last HP Pavilion had a switch on the back

>> of the power supply.)

>

>

> I have four desktops in this room right now--three are custom-built,

> and the fourth (my wife's) is a Dell. All four have switches on the

> back of the power supply.

>



Did you change the PS on the Dell? I have never seen one in the last

8-10 years with a switch on the PS.





Terry R.

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"Terry R." wrote in message

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> On 4/5/2010 6:39 PM On a whim, Ken Blake, MVP pounded out on the keyboard

>

>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:54:24 -0600, Bruce Chambers

>> wrote:

>>

>>> Unknown wrote:

>>>> What brand of computer do you have?

>>>>

>>>

>>> Custom-built; usually built by myself. I almost never purchase from

>>> the OEMS. (However, my son's last HP Pavilion had a switch on the back

>>> of the power supply.)

>>

>>

>> I have four desktops in this room right now--three are custom-built,

>> and the fourth (my wife's) is a Dell. All four have switches on the

>> back of the power supply.

>>

>

> Did you change the PS on the Dell? I have never seen one in the last 8-10

> years with a switch on the PS.

>

>

> Terry R.

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If I was still working, I could send you pictures of 11 Dell workstations

(if they still have them all) that have the switch on the PS. I don't

remember the model number, but they are all high-end CAD stations about 5 or

6 years old.

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any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."

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On Apr 2, 10:19�pm, "Unknown" wrote:

> Simple common sense. Turn power off but leave line cord plugged in.

> (Provides static discharge path)

> Touch frame of computer before anything else (discharge static)



Don't wriggle your body on a plastic chair while working.



Don't move or lift your feet. This would reduce your capacitance to

earth & increase your static voltage, Charge energy = 0.5CV**2, or

V := ((Charge * 2) * C)**0.5. C goes down, voltage goes up with a

constant charge.



Alan Lloyd
 
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:15:30 -0700, "Terry R."

wrote:



> On 4/5/2010 6:39 PM On a whim, Ken Blake, MVP pounded out on the keyboard

>

> > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:54:24 -0600, Bruce Chambers

> > wrote:

> >

> >> Unknown wrote:

> >>> What brand of computer do you have?

> >>>

> >>

> >> Custom-built; usually built by myself. I almost never purchase from

> >> the OEMS. (However, my son's last HP Pavilion had a switch on the back

> >> of the power supply.)

> >

> >

> > I have four desktops in this room right now--three are custom-built,

> > and the fourth (my wife's) is a Dell. All four have switches on the

> > back of the power supply.

> >

>

> Did you change the PS on the Dell?





No.





> I have never seen one in the last

> 8-10 years with a switch on the PS.





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Well, back from Easter --- Thanks for all the comments.



This pc has been an extremely stable one until recently, when it started

freezing up and the only option was a hard shut down. It started doing this

once or more a day suddenly, but there was no problem with the clock time.



It was running an AMD Athlon 1700 cpu until I put in a 2nd hand 2100 a year

ago; there were no problems before then. I recently switched it back to the

1700.



I also vacuumed out the pc and reconnected everything.



After doing all that, I still had another freeze. So that's when I start

pulling my hair.



The freeze seems to happen especially when there is a big graphic workload.

During the last freeze up I got this:

"nv4_disp display driver has stopped working normally"



So, I removed the driver and downloaded and reinstalled (it is the same

latest version).



Hopefully that solved the problem.





Jack
 
"Jack B" wrote in message

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> Well, back from Easter --- Thanks for all the comments.

>

> This pc has been an extremely stable one until recently, when it started

> freezing up and the only option was a hard shut down. It started doing

> this

> once or more a day suddenly, but there was no problem with the clock time.

>

> It was running an AMD Athlon 1700 cpu until I put in a 2nd hand 2100 a

> year

> ago; there were no problems before then. I recently switched it back to

> the

> 1700.

>

> I also vacuumed out the pc and reconnected everything.

>

> After doing all that, I still had another freeze. So that's when I start

> pulling my hair.

>

> The freeze seems to happen especially when there is a big graphic

> workload.

> During the last freeze up I got this:

> "nv4_disp display driver has stopped working normally"

>

> So, I removed the driver and downloaded and reinstalled (it is the same

> latest version).

>

> Hopefully that solved the problem.

>

>

> Jack

>

Which Nvidia card are you running, and how old is it? I've used Nvidias

forever it seems, and have had fan problems on a few of them. Make sure you

have no other cards near it if possible, and that the airflow around the fan

and heatsink isn't being blocked by ribbon cables, etc.

--

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"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed

any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."

Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
 
It's a GeForce MX 4000





Jack
 
On 4/6/2010 9:39 AM On a whim, SC Tom pounded out on the keyboard



> "Terry R." wrote in message

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>> On 4/5/2010 6:39 PM On a whim, Ken Blake, MVP pounded out on the keyboard

>>

>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:54:24 -0600, Bruce Chambers

>>> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Unknown wrote:

>>>>> What brand of computer do you have?

>>>>>

>>>> Custom-built; usually built by myself. I almost never purchase from

>>>> the OEMS. (However, my son's last HP Pavilion had a switch on the back

>>>> of the power supply.)

>>>

>>> I have four desktops in this room right now--three are custom-built,

>>> and the fourth (my wife's) is a Dell. All four have switches on the

>>> back of the power supply.

>>>

>> Did you change the PS on the Dell? I have never seen one in the last 8-10

>> years with a switch on the PS.

>>

>>

>> Terry R.



>

> If I was still working, I could send you pictures of 11 Dell workstations

> (if they still have them all) that have the switch on the PS. I don't

> remember the model number, but they are all high-end CAD stations about 5 or

> 6 years old.



I have seen hundreds of Dell's and never seen one with a power switch on

the PS. Of course I haven't seen every model, so you might be right.



But why does that stick out to you on a computer that would cause you to

be so sure? The only reason I know is I have replaced the PS on a lot

of them. Nothing more frustrating that having to find one without the

switch so it will mount properly.





Terry R.

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"Jack B" wrote in message

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>

> It's a GeForce MX 4000

>

>

> Jack

>

>

That's a pretty old card, for sure. Do you, by chance, have another PCI

video card you could substitute? Or you could get a new MX4000 from Newegg

for $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139174 .

Either way, the onboard battery is not going to be the cause of the problem

you're seeing.

Another thing you might try is uninstalling the latest video driver and

installing the previous WHQL certified driver. Is this the one you have now

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_93.71_2.html ?

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Tom,



Yes, that's the driver I have now and the same one I've had since I've had

the MX4000 which I got in 2006 or 2007. It is the driver I removed and

reinstalled. It is the latest driver for that card. No, I don't have

another card to use.



Everything seems to be working now, but I haven't attempted to stress the

system yet. I'll probably do that tomorrow.





Jack





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"Jack B" wrote in message

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>

> It's a GeForce MX 4000

>

>

> Jack

>

>

That's a pretty old card, for sure. Do you, by chance, have another PCI

video card you could substitute? Or you could get a new MX4000 from Newegg

for $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139174 .

Either way, the onboard battery is not going to be the cause of the problem

you're seeing.

Another thing you might try is uninstalling the latest video driver and

installing the previous WHQL certified driver. Is this the one you have now

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_93.71_2.html ?

--

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any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."

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"Terry R." wrote in message

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> On 4/6/2010 9:39 AM On a whim, SC Tom pounded out on the keyboard

>

>> "Terry R." wrote in message

>> news:ObyElRa1KHA.5972@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> On 4/5/2010 6:39 PM On a whim, Ken Blake, MVP pounded out on the

>>> keyboard

>>>

>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:54:24 -0600, Bruce Chambers

>>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Unknown wrote:

>>>>>> What brand of computer do you have?

>>>>>>

>>>>> Custom-built; usually built by myself. I almost never purchase from

>>>>> the OEMS. (However, my son's last HP Pavilion had a switch on the

>>>>> back

>>>>> of the power supply.)

>>>>

>>>> I have four desktops in this room right now--three are custom-built,

>>>> and the fourth (my wife's) is a Dell. All four have switches on the

>>>> back of the power supply.

>>>>

>>> Did you change the PS on the Dell? I have never seen one in the last

>>> 8-10

>>> years with a switch on the PS.

>>>

>>>

>>> Terry R.

>

>>

>> If I was still working, I could send you pictures of 11 Dell workstations

>> (if they still have them all) that have the switch on the PS. I don't

>> remember the model number, but they are all high-end CAD stations about 5

>> or

>> 6 years old.

>

> I have seen hundreds of Dell's and never seen one with a power switch on

> the PS. Of course I haven't seen every model, so you might be right.

>

> But why does that stick out to you on a computer that would cause you to

> be so sure? The only reason I know is I have replaced the PS on a lot of

> them. Nothing more frustrating that having to find one without the switch

> so it will mount properly.

>

>

> Terry R.

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I had to replace the MB on two of them, the PS on one, the graphics card on

two or three of them, and RAM on at least half of them, so I was in, out,

and around them a lot more than I should have been. I can remember on the

one with the bad PS that the one that came out had the switch, but the

(upgraded?) one they sent me as a replacement didn't. Just thought it

strange that it wasn't an identical replacement since that unit was less

than a year old at the time.

I wish I could remember the model number since I had an inordinate amount of

hardware go bad on such a small group of workstations, especially

considering the price we paid for them. Didn't exactly give me the warm and

fuzzies later on when I was told we were getting a single Dell server to

replace the two out-dated solid-as-a-rock HP's we were currently running.

The Dell server also had switches on the power supplies. I remember that

because I had to install the redundant one, and while sliding it into the

rack, I must have accidentally turned it off somehow. I slid it back out a

little, reached over it, and turned it back on.

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any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."

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Another thing to consider- I don't know where you are located, but it's

getting pretty warm and humid here in SC, not quite enough for the AC, but

enough for the ceiling fan to be left on all the time. Is the room where you

have the PC any warmer now than during the winter; got good circulation

around the PC? Just a thought.

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> Tom,

>

> Yes, that's the driver I have now and the same one I've had since I've had

> the MX4000 which I got in 2006 or 2007. It is the driver I removed and

> reinstalled. It is the latest driver for that card. No, I don't have

> another card to use.

>

> Everything seems to be working now, but I haven't attempted to stress the

> system yet. I'll probably do that tomorrow.

>

>

> Jack

>

>

> "SC Tom" wrote in message

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>

> "Jack B" wrote in message

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>>

>> It's a GeForce MX 4000

>>

>>

>> Jack

>>

>>

> That's a pretty old card, for sure. Do you, by chance, have another PCI

> video card you could substitute? Or you could get a new MX4000 from Newegg

> for $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139174 .

> Either way, the onboard battery is not going to be the cause of the

> problem

> you're seeing.

> Another thing you might try is uninstalling the latest video driver and

> installing the previous WHQL certified driver. Is this the one you have

> now

> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_93.71_2.html ?

> --

> SC Tom

>

> "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed

> any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."

> Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.

>

>
 
What I'm wondering is whether the replacement of the 1700 cpu with the

Athlon 2100 could have triggered something that would have corrupted any

files.

Of course the reason I got the 2100 is because some programs I'm interested

in (like QuickBooks, Red Shift 5, etc) recommend/require a higher speed.

If I don't get any failures, I'll put the 2100 back in. BTW, the 2100 is the

max supported by the MB.



Jack



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"SC Tom" wrote in message

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Another thing to consider- I don't know where you are located, but it's

getting pretty warm and humid here in SC, not quite enough for the AC, but

enough for the ceiling fan to be left on all the time. Is the room where you

have the PC any warmer now than during the winter; got good circulation

around the PC? Just a thought.

--

SC Tom



"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed

any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."

Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.



"Jack B" wrote in message

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> Tom,

>

> Yes, that's the driver I have now and the same one I've had since I've had

> the MX4000 which I got in 2006 or 2007. It is the driver I removed and

> reinstalled. It is the latest driver for that card. No, I don't have

> another card to use.

>

> Everything seems to be working now, but I haven't attempted to stress the

> system yet. I'll probably do that tomorrow.

>

>

> Jack

>

>

> "SC Tom" wrote in message

> news:evOVP6f1KHA.264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>

> "Jack B" wrote in message

> news:euoJ17e1KHA.5328@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>

>> It's a GeForce MX 4000

>>

>>

>> Jack

>>

>>

> That's a pretty old card, for sure. Do you, by chance, have another PCI

> video card you could substitute? Or you could get a new MX4000 from Newegg

> for $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139174 .

> Either way, the onboard battery is not going to be the cause of the

> problem

> you're seeing.

> Another thing you might try is uninstalling the latest video driver and

> installing the previous WHQL certified driver. Is this the one you have

> now

> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_93.71_2.html ?

> --

> SC Tom

>

> "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed

> any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."

> Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.

>

>
 
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