Are Updates dangerous!

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Ooo, kinky!



joe wrote:

> Up your arse.

> "Unknown" wrote in message

> news:Od$p4fMrKHA.6064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Logical!

>> "joe" wrote in message

>> news:etMCa$GrKHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> What kind of response is that?

>>>

>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

>>> news:OLyRxLFrKHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> How long have you been so paranoid?

>>>>

>>>> joe wrote:

>>>>> I have win xp pro sp3

>>>>>

>>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any

>>>>> updates

>>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :-)

>>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft

>>>>> updates.

>>>>>

>>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am

>>>>> not too

>>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out the

>>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in a

>>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )

>>>>>

>>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.

>>>>>

>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had

>>>>> this

>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>>>>>

>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>>>>>

>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>>>>>

>>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of your

>>>>> experience.

>>>>>

>>>>> TIA
 
This is more of what I would have expected from you PA. I kmow you are

heavily involved with update queries and apreciate you taking the time to

respond. I still feel nervous about the whole update issue after this little

hicup.





"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

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> Sorry, it's been a long week in the trenches dealing with those

> BSOD/KB977165 issues here.

>

>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had

>>>> this

>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>

> Luck had nothing to do with it. Practicing 'Safe Hex' did: It's beginning

> to look like the vast majority of these BSODs were caused by hijackware

> infections, primarily W32/Alureon-variants.

>

>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>

> If your computer's security was compromised, yes.

>

>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>

> Very generally speaking, yes. Should you ever need assistance...

>

> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY

> (and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and in

> Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary. There is

> no-charge for support calls that are associated with security updates.

> When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a Security

> Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB999999).

>

> Or you can...

>

> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:

> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527

>

> Consumer Security Support home page & Microsoft Update Solution Center

> also offer support options

> https://consumersecuritysupport.microsoft.com/

> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/6527#tab3

>

> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary

> for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web

> site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx

> --

> ~PA Bear

>

> joe wrote:

>> What kind of response is that?

>>

>>> How long have you been so paranoid?

>>>

>>> joe wrote:

>>>> I have win xp pro sp3

>>>>

>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any

>>>> updates

>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :-)

>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft

>>>> updates.

>>>>

>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am

>>>> not

>>>> too

>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out the

>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in a

>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )

>>>>

>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.

>>>>

>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had

>>>> this

>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>>>>

>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>>>>

>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>>>>

>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of your

>>>> experience.

>>>>

>>>> TIA

>
 
Just to say this was meant as a knee jerk response to Unknown. I fully

respect your input PA bear and have done so for several years. Thank you.



"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

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> Ooo, kinky!

>

> joe wrote:

>> Up your arse.

>> "Unknown" wrote in message

>> news:Od$p4fMrKHA.6064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Logical!

>>> "joe" wrote in message

>>> news:etMCa$GrKHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> What kind of response is that?

>>>>

>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

>>>> news:OLyRxLFrKHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> How long have you been so paranoid?

>>>>>

>>>>> joe wrote:

>>>>>> I have win xp pro sp3

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any

>>>>>> updates

>>>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :-)

>>>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft

>>>>>> updates.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am

>>>>>> not too

>>>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in

>>>>>> a

>>>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had

>>>>>> this

>>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of

>>>>>> your

>>>>>> experience.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> TIA

>
 
Per Saucy:

>An unpatched rtm Windows XP will be infected within minutes if connected

>directly to the Internet:

>

>http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/262



But that's an "unprotected PC" - which I take to mean one with no

anti-virus software installed and not running behind whatever

kind of router offers some protection.... or did I read it wrong?

--

PeteCresswell
 
Per Shenan Stanley:

>What's the situation? Where is this computer, what is it used for?



Mostly home use: email, word processing. Some VBA development,

but most of the time I Remote into a box at the client's site to

do development.



I posed the question because after applying SP3, I had problems

Remote Desktopping over a VPN to a client site. Called their

support desk and they said they found SP3 tb problematic in that

area. Didn't turn out tb the cause (I was using the wrong

router and that was the cause)... but their comment got me

thinking that there seems tb negative exposure in applying MS

fixes... and I was wondering if anybody had actually had a

problem because they did *not* apply a fix.

--

PeteCresswell
 
He was correct-------you are paranoid.

"joe" wrote in message

news:uYc7ZBOrKHA.732@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> This is more of what I would have expected from you PA. I kmow you are

> heavily involved with update queries and apreciate you taking the time to

> respond. I still feel nervous about the whole update issue after this

> little hicup.

>

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

> news:%23$%230XoMrKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Sorry, it's been a long week in the trenches dealing with those

>> BSOD/KB977165 issues here.

>>

>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had

>>>>> this

>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>>

>> Luck had nothing to do with it. Practicing 'Safe Hex' did: It's

>> beginning to look like the vast majority of these BSODs were caused by

>> hijackware infections, primarily W32/Alureon-variants.

>>

>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>>

>> If your computer's security was compromised, yes.

>>

>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>>

>> Very generally speaking, yes. Should you ever need assistance...

>>

>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY

>> (and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and in

>> Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary. There is

>> no-charge for support calls that are associated with security updates.

>> When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a Security

>> Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB999999).

>>

>> Or you can...

>>

>> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:

>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527

>>

>> Consumer Security Support home page & Microsoft Update Solution Center

>> also offer support options

>> https://consumersecuritysupport.microsoft.com/

>> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/6527#tab3

>>

>> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary

>> for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web

>> site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx

>> --

>> ~PA Bear

>>

>> joe wrote:

>>> What kind of response is that?

>>>

>>>> How long have you been so paranoid?

>>>>

>>>> joe wrote:

>>>>> I have win xp pro sp3

>>>>>

>>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any

>>>>> updates

>>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :-)

>>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft

>>>>> updates.

>>>>>

>>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am

>>>>> not

>>>>> too

>>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out the

>>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in a

>>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )

>>>>>

>>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.

>>>>>

>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had

>>>>> this

>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>>>>>

>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>>>>>

>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>>>>>

>>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of your

>>>>> experience.

>>>>>

>>>>> TIA

>>

>

>
 
cf.

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/a3b667a339eac072



joe wrote:

> This is more of what I would have expected from you PA. I kmow you are

> heavily involved with update queries and apreciate you taking the time to

> respond. I still feel nervous about the whole update issue after this

> little

> hicup.

>

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

> news:%23$%230XoMrKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Sorry, it's been a long week in the trenches dealing with those

>> BSOD/KB977165 issues here.

>>

>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had

>>>>> this

>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>>

>> Luck had nothing to do with it. Practicing 'Safe Hex' did: It's

>> beginning

>> to look like the vast majority of these BSODs were caused by hijackware

>> infections, primarily W32/Alureon-variants.

>>

>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>>

>> If your computer's security was compromised, yes.

>>

>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>>

>> Very generally speaking, yes. Should you ever need assistance...

>>

>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY

>> (and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and in

>> Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary. There is

>> no-charge for support calls that are associated with security updates.

>> When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a Security

>> Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB999999).

>>

>> Or you can...

>>

>> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:

>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527

>>

>> Consumer Security Support home page & Microsoft Update Solution Center

>> also offer support options

>> https://consumersecuritysupport.microsoft.com/

>> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/6527#tab3

>>

>> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary

>> for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web

>> site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx

>> --

>> ~PA Bear

>>

>> joe wrote:

>>> What kind of response is that?

>>>

>>>> How long have you been so paranoid?

>>>>

>>>> joe wrote:

>>>>> I have win xp pro sp3

>>>>>

>>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any

>>>>> updates

>>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :-)

>>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft

>>>>> updates.

>>>>>

>>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am

>>>>> not

>>>>> too

>>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out the

>>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in a

>>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )

>>>>>

>>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.

>>>>>

>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had

>>>>> this

>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>>>>>

>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>>>>>

>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>>>>>

>>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of your

>>>>> experience.

>>>>>

>>>>> TIA
 
Yes I can confidently say that M$ updates are a complete and utter waste of

time. They are an added extra and are optional.



If you have Windows XP with SP3 installed then you would be completely

protected if you follow the following:



1) In Windows firewall settings, In the General Tab, make sure ON is ticked

and also "Don't allow exceptions" is ticked



2) On exceptions tab, remove tabs against everything; You don't need to

allow any exceptions;



3) On Advanced tab, click on Restore default button.



Ideally you should start with 3, then 2 and then 1. Although in 1 you have

disallowed all exceptions, I wouldn't trust it because I have come across

circumstances where M$ software failed horribly.



I have not installed any updates post SP3 and have no intentions of

installing any of them.



hth



"joe" wrote in message

news:%23xpodq%23qKHA.5896@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>I have win xp pro sp3

>

> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any updates

> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :-)

> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft updates.

>

> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am not

> too happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out the

> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in a

> remote area with no other pc's around )

>

> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.

>

> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had this

> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>

> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>

> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>

> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of your

> experience.

>

> TIA

>

>
 
FUD



20100214 wrote:

> Yes I can confidently say that M$ updates are a complete and utter waste

> of

> time. They are an added extra and are optional.

>

> If you have Windows XP with SP3 installed then you would be completely

> protected if you follow the following:

>

> 1) In Windows firewall settings, In the General Tab, make sure ON is

> ticked

> and also "Don't allow exceptions" is ticked

>

> 2) On exceptions tab, remove tabs against everything; You don't need to

> allow any exceptions;

>

> 3) On Advanced tab, click on Restore default button.

>

> Ideally you should start with 3, then 2 and then 1. Although in 1 you

> have

> disallowed all exceptions, I wouldn't trust it because I have come across

> circumstances where M$ software failed horribly.

>

> I have not installed any updates post SP3 and have no intentions of

> installing any of them.

>

> hth

>

> "joe" wrote in message

> news:%23xpodq%23qKHA.5896@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> I have win xp pro sp3

>>

>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any updates

>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :-)

>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft updates.

>>

>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am not

>> too happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out

>> the

>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in a

>> remote area with no other pc's around )

>>

>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.

>>

>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had this

>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>>

>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>>

>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>>

>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of your

>> experience.

>>

>> TIA
 
20100214 wrote:

>

> Yes I can confidently say that M$ updates are a complete and utter waste of

> time. They are an added extra and are optional.

>

> If you have Windows XP with SP3 installed then you would be completely

> protected if you follow the following:

>

> 1) In Windows firewall settings, In the General Tab, make sure ON is ticked

> and also "Don't allow exceptions" is ticked

>

> 2) On exceptions tab, remove tabs against everything; You don't need to

> allow any exceptions;

>

> 3) On Advanced tab, click on Restore default button.

>

> Ideally you should start with 3, then 2 and then 1. Although in 1 you have

> disallowed all exceptions, I wouldn't trust it because I have come across

> circumstances where M$ software failed horribly.

>

> I have not installed any updates post SP3 and have no intentions of

> installing any of them.



Makes sense. I did as you suggested. Any comments? Do we

need security updates if we have good AV and anti-Spy? What

are the drawbacks that you can think of? How do you respond

to the comment FUD?
 
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

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> FUD





Are you seriously looking for: female urination device?



This would certainly enable you to urinate while standing upright.

Variations include basic funnel shapes to more obscure and comedic designs.

Have you changed your gender already? Join Mow Green and you can have

lesbian relationship!
 
"Sanford Aranoff" wrote in message

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> 20100214 wrote:

>>

>

> Makes sense. I did as you suggested. Any comments? Do we

> need security updates if we have good AV and anti-Spy? What

> are the drawbacks that you can think of? How do you respond

> to the comment FUD?



No. If you have updated Anti-Virus (AVG, AVAST or MSE) and Windows Defender

you are well protected. AVG and Windows Defender doesn't work in tandem so

avoid AVG. I have MSE, Windows Defender and Avast on my system.



I have stopped all updates (Turn off Automatic Updates) coming to my system.

Only the Anti-Virus and Windows defender gets through my firewall

protection.



I have replied to FUD comment separately to pig-bear directly. Pig-Bear and

me are not completely compatible so just ignore him.



hth
 
And, how do you know of such items? Tried them?

"20100215" wrote in message

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>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

> news:u%23ZIRTZrKHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> FUD

>

>

> Are you seriously looking for: female urination device?

>

> This would certainly enable you to urinate while standing upright.

> Variations include basic funnel shapes to more obscure and comedic

> designs. Have you changed your gender already? Join Mow Green and you can

> have lesbian relationship!

>

>

>

>

>

>
 
20100215 wrote:

>

> "Sanford Aranoff" wrote in message

> news:4B78ADCA.686357FE@analysis-knowledge.com...

> > 20100214 wrote:

> >>

> >

> > Makes sense. I did as you suggested. Any comments? Do we

> > need security updates if we have good AV and anti-Spy? What

> > are the drawbacks that you can think of? How do you respond

> > to the comment FUD?

>

> No. If you have updated Anti-Virus (AVG, AVAST or MSE) and Windows Defender

> you are well protected. AVG and Windows Defender doesn't work in tandem so

> avoid AVG. I have MSE, Windows Defender and Avast on my system.

>

> I have stopped all updates (Turn off Automatic Updates) coming to my system.

> Only the Anti-Virus and Windows defender gets through my firewall

> protection.

>

> I have replied to FUD comment separately to pig-bear directly. Pig-Bear and

> me are not completely compatible so just ignore him.

>

> hth



I have BitDefender AV and Webroot Anti-Spyware.
 
And you are exactly what everone says about you.



"Unknown" wrote in message

news:%23Nk57XPrKHA.5896@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> He was correct-------you are paranoid.

> "joe" wrote in message

> news:uYc7ZBOrKHA.732@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> This is more of what I would have expected from you PA. I kmow you are

>> heavily involved with update queries and apreciate you taking the time to

>> respond. I still feel nervous about the whole update issue after this

>> little hicup.

>>

>>

>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

>> news:%23$%230XoMrKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Sorry, it's been a long week in the trenches dealing with those

>>> BSOD/KB977165 issues here.

>>>

>>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had

>>>>>> this

>>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>>>

>>> Luck had nothing to do with it. Practicing 'Safe Hex' did: It's

>>> beginning to look like the vast majority of these BSODs were caused by

>>> hijackware infections, primarily W32/Alureon-variants.

>>>

>>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>>>

>>> If your computer's security was compromised, yes.

>>>

>>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>>>

>>> Very generally speaking, yes. Should you ever need assistance...

>>>

>>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY

>>> (and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and

>>> in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary. There is

>>> no-charge for support calls that are associated with security updates.

>>> When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a Security

>>> Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB999999).

>>>

>>> Or you can...

>>>

>>> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:

>>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527

>>>

>>> Consumer Security Support home page & Microsoft Update Solution Center

>>> also offer support options

>>> https://consumersecuritysupport.microsoft.com/

>>> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/6527#tab3

>>>

>>> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft

>>> subsidiary for security update support issues, visit the International

>>> Support Web site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx

>>> --

>>> ~PA Bear

>>>

>>> joe wrote:

>>>> What kind of response is that?

>>>>

>>>>> How long have you been so paranoid?

>>>>>

>>>>> joe wrote:

>>>>>> I have win xp pro sp3

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any

>>>>>> updates

>>>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :-)

>>>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft

>>>>>> updates.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am

>>>>>> not

>>>>>> too

>>>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in

>>>>>> a

>>>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had

>>>>>> this

>>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of

>>>>>> your

>>>>>> experience.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> TIA

>>>

>>

>>

>

>
 
"joe" wrote in message

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> And you are exactly what everone says about you.

>



Unknown's mummy is impressed with my size!! She just

can't let it go! It is " absolutely amazing" that his biological father

produced a midget like him with no personality or brains.



I wouldn't get involved with that nutter.
 
Thank you very much for the kind comment.

"joe" wrote in message

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> And you are exactly what everone says about you.

>

> "Unknown" wrote in message

> news:%23Nk57XPrKHA.5896@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> He was correct-------you are paranoid.

>> "joe" wrote in message

>> news:uYc7ZBOrKHA.732@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> This is more of what I would have expected from you PA. I kmow you are

>>> heavily involved with update queries and apreciate you taking the time

>>> to respond. I still feel nervous about the whole update issue after this

>>> little hicup.

>>>

>>>

>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

>>> news:%23$%230XoMrKHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Sorry, it's been a long week in the trenches dealing with those

>>>> BSOD/KB977165 issues here.

>>>>

>>>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had

>>>>>>> this

>>>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>>>>

>>>> Luck had nothing to do with it. Practicing 'Safe Hex' did: It's

>>>> beginning to look like the vast majority of these BSODs were caused by

>>>> hijackware infections, primarily W32/Alureon-variants.

>>>>

>>>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>>>>

>>>> If your computer's security was compromised, yes.

>>>>

>>>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>>>>

>>>> Very generally speaking, yes. Should you ever need assistance...

>>>>

>>>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling

>>>> 1-866-PCSAFETY (and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the

>>>> United States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft

>>>> subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls that are associated

>>>> with security updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem

>>>> is related to a Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g.,

>>>> KB999999).

>>>>

>>>> Or you can...

>>>>

>>>> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:

>>>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527

>>>>

>>>> Consumer Security Support home page & Microsoft Update Solution Center

>>>> also offer support options

>>>> https://consumersecuritysupport.microsoft.com/

>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/ph/6527#tab3

>>>>

>>>> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft

>>>> subsidiary for security update support issues, visit the International

>>>> Support Web site:

>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx

>>>> --

>>>> ~PA Bear

>>>>

>>>> joe wrote:

>>>>> What kind of response is that?

>>>>>

>>>>>> How long have you been so paranoid?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> joe wrote:

>>>>>>> I have win xp pro sp3

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I lived in a remote area without internet access so never did any

>>>>>>> updates

>>>>>>> other than the service packs, no internet no threats :-)

>>>>>>> I now have broadband and am fully up to date with all Microsoft

>>>>>>> updates.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> However this latest problem with KB977165 has really scared me. I am

>>>>>>> not

>>>>>>> too

>>>>>>> happy about using the recovery tool and how would I have found out

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> solution anyway without a pc to access the Internet? ( I am still in

>>>>>>> a

>>>>>>> remote area with no other pc's around )

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> So I have a couple of questions for the experts here.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Firstly, why did my update install perfectly when so many others had

>>>>>>> this

>>>>>>> huge problem? Was I just lucky?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Has this kind of thing happened before with bad updates?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Can I feel safe in downloading these updates automatically.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I would feel much better if you guys could give me the benefit of

>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>> experience.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> TIA

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

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