After running spyware - XP won't let me boot - keeps logging out

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Most cases of viruses spreading from USB drives are a result of

> "Autoplay" which causes a program to execute when the disk or drive is

> inserted.  In Windows, you can disable Autoplay with TweakUI or simply

> hold down the shift key when you insert the drive (you have to hold it

> down until after it is completely mounted).  Data files don't usually

> carry infections.  Suspect .exe, .com, .bat, .pif, .vbs, .cpl, and

> other executable-types of files.



The file on the USB flash drive are mostly word docs, pdf, jpg and the

like. Nothing exe, so I am hoping they are safe.



>

> Linux disks do not fix Windows problems very well, so you might

> consider checking into freeware "Ultimate Boot CD for Windows" at

>

>    



The site is password protected? Where can I sign up? I just hit the

url and it asked me for a password and login....

>

> Where you can create a "Live Windows" CD which is very helpful for

> recovering from situations like you are in.  It is more work to

> generate than the Live Linux CD because you have to create the .iso

> yourself instead of simply just downloading it.  But once you make the

> disk it is a very helpful thing to keep around.  I believe it even

> includes some virus checkers.

>

> HTH,

>   John



That is great, if I can get into it, I will try the Live Windows CD

thing. Again, thanks for your patience on this.
 
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The file on the USB flash drive are mostly word docs, pdf, jpg and the

like. Nothing exe, so I am hoping they are safe.



>

> Linux disks do not fix Windows problems very well, so you might

> consider checking into freeware "Ultimate Boot CD for Windows" at

>

>



The site is password protected? Where can I sign up? I just hit the

url and it asked me for a password and login....

>

> Where you can create a "Live Windows" CD which is very helpful for

> recovering from situations like you are in. It is more work to

> generate than the Live Linux CD because you have to create the .iso

> yourself instead of simply just downloading it. But once you make the

> disk it is a very helpful thing to keep around. I believe it even

> includes some virus checkers.

>

> HTH,

> John



That is great, if I can get into it, I will try the Live Windows CD

thing. Again, thanks for your patience on this.n

>

> Look at the filenames when you download Knoppix.  The german versions

> have a "-DE" in the name.  English versions have a "-EN" in the name.

> The lastest english version is version 6.2:

>    KNOPPIX_V6.2DVD-2009-11-18-EN.iso

>

> -- John
 
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daviddschool wrote in

news:e6a221f5-8b8a-4b03-9a07-aa7e8f3f4e39@l26g2000yqd.googlegroups.co

m:



>>

>

> The site is password protected? Where can I sign up? I just hit

> the url and it asked me for a password and login....



Not here. I get connected directly to the site. You might try

Googling for it. Sometimes Google will cache the page and you can

get to it that way.



> That is great, if I can get into it, I will try the Live Windows

> CD thing. Again, thanks for your patience on this.n

>



Another site that has roughly the equivalent is "Bart PE". Try that

site:





HTH,

John
 
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How are you getting to the repair console? hopefully by booting to the

install cd and stating repair when asked?



"daviddschool" wrote:



> Tried and use ENTER - and it just reboots. I am not getting the

> command prompt for recovery like I should. Sucks. Why?

>

> Ok, looks like I am going to buy a new HD tomorrow and recover

> everything to it and use the other HD as a spare. I have Ubuntu

> running and I am going to use the online ONTRACK virus checker to

> search the drives for issues. Lastly, I am guessing there really

> isn't a fix for this and getting my XP back up and running that

> doesn't involve reinstallation, right?

> >

> > Don't put in a password and then hit Enter.

> >

> > --

> > C

>

> .

>
 
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On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:07:09 -0800 (PST), daviddschool

wrote:



>The file on the USB flash drive are mostly word docs, pdf, jpg and the

>like. Nothing exe, so I am hoping they are safe.



yOU DO HAVE, "Hide extension for known file types" turned off, don't

you? For some idiotic reason no one has explained to me, up to and

including Windows Vista, the way it comes from Microsoft, the default,

is to have that "feature" turned on. Maybe windows 7 also.



IF you have it turned on, then manual.doc.exe appears in windows

Explorer as manual.doc . Same for whatever other extension it

considers for "known file types", which might include .jpg and .pdr.



YOu'll find the setting in Folder Options, iirc.





If you back up all your files now, after the problem has started, it

will be good that you have any particular file you need, but if you

reinstall windows and then copy back every file from the backup, won't

you have your original problem back?
 
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> yOU DO HAVE, "Hide extension for known file types" turned off, don't

> you?  For some idiotic reason no one has explained to me, up to and

> including Windows Vista, the way it comes from Microsoft, the default,

> is to have that "feature" turned on.  Maybe windows 7 also.



I am not sure about this.



>

> IF you have it turned on, then manual.doc.exe appears in windows

> Explorer as manual.doc .   Same for whatever other extension it

> considers for "known file types", which might include .jpg and .pdr.



IS this the file I want to get rid of?



> YOu'll find the setting in Folder Options, iirc.



Ok, will do, I will turn on the extensions.



> If you back up all your files now, after the problem has started, it

> will be good that you have any particular file you need, but if you

> reinstall windows and then copy back every file from the backup, won't

> you have your original problem back?



I have some success with this. I used the repair module and it still

didn't work when booting - but it does NOW boot in Safe mode. I am

hoping that is a very good sign.

I tried to run the Trendmicro Online virus checker using Ubuntu, but

it won't let me open the file. I haven't tried it using Knoppix yet

as I am still downloading the english version. I can see all the

files and ran a Virus check last night in Safemode, but I went to bed

before it finished. I will leave it on today and see what happens. I

have not yet tried booting to REGULAR mode yet since I found out that

Safe mode works.
 
daviddschool wrote:



>>

>

> The site is password protected? Where can I sign up? I just hit the

> url and it asked me for a password and login....



Try this page:



http://www.ubcd4win.com/



Also, you can create a bootable AV checking CD:



http://www.techmixer.com/bitdefender-rescue-cd-with-auto-update-virus-definition-features/



More info:



http://www.bitdefender.com/KB417-en--Using-the-BitDefender-Rescue-CD.html



Others:



http://www.techmixer.com/free-bootable-antivirus-rescue-cds-download-list/
 
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mm wrote:



> yOU DO HAVE, "Hide extension for known file types" turned off, don't

> you? For some idiotic reason no one has explained to me, up to and

> including Windows Vista, the way it comes from Microsoft, the default,

> is to have that "feature" turned on. Maybe windows 7 also.



I agree 100%. When working on a PC, one of the first things I do is show

the extensions. I hate the default of having them hidden!
 
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On Feb 9, 9:10 am, "Daave" wrote:

> mm wrote:

> > yOU DO HAVE, "Hide extension for known file types" turned off, don't

> > you?  For some idiotic reason no one has explained to me, up to and

> > including Windows Vista, the way it comes from Microsoft, the default,

> > is to have that "feature" turned on.  Maybe windows 7 also.

>

> I agree 100%. When working on a PC, one of the first things I do is show

> the extensions. I hate the default of having them hidden!



I am trying to Bart Windows live cd as well, although I can't seem to

get it to be an ISO using Nero Essentials. I have created the ISO and

when I burned it, it did not boot properly. I think I will ahve to

download a freeware version of ISO maker.



The AV checking Cd is key. I will do that right away on my other

computer.



Now, if I still have an issue booting to regular mode, will the

Ultimate Boot CD help? I am just wondering what my next steps will be

(I am at work now and will try later).
 
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daviddschool wrote:

> On Feb 9, 9:10 am, "Daave" wrote:

>> mm wrote:

>>> yOU DO HAVE, "Hide extension for known file types" turned off, don't

>>> you? For some idiotic reason no one has explained to me, up to and

>>> including Windows Vista, the way it comes from Microsoft, the

>>> default, is to have that "feature" turned on. Maybe windows 7 also.

>>

>> I agree 100%. When working on a PC, one of the first things I do is

>> show the extensions. I hate the default of having them hidden!

>

> I am trying to Bart Windows live cd as well, although I can't seem to

> get it to be an ISO using Nero Essentials. I have created the ISO and

> when I burned it, it did not boot properly. I think I will ahve to

> download a freeware version of ISO maker.



Surely, Nero Essentials has the ability to burn a CD from an .iso.



Yes, here is the method:



http://www.hiren.info/pages/how-to-burn-iso



FWIW, I don't use Nero. I have had success using ImgBurn:



http://www.imgburn.com/
 
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 04:12:41 -0800 (PST), daviddschool

wrote:



>

>> yOU DO HAVE, "Hide extension for known file types" turned off, don't

>> you?  For some idiotic reason no one has explained to me, up to and



I do know part of the reason, I thihk. They want the system to be

friendly to non-computer types. They think people will be scared of

a file named AnnualReport2010.doc and will like more a file named

AnnualReport2010. That might well have been a valid position when

computers first started and no one had written a virus yet, and

perhaps no one foresaw the future existence of viruses, but now it is

just stupid.



To be user friendly is, I think, they went out of their way to permit

spaces in file names. Now it's actually possible to call a file

Annual Report 2010.doc , (but I don't do that.) I think the whole

goal of this is to make non-computer types, especially businessmen,

more comfortable with file names.



>> including Windows Vista, the way it comes from Microsoft, the default,

>> is to have that "feature" turned on.  Maybe windows 7 also.

>

>I am not sure about this.



In Xp it's control panel, folder options, view, about 11 lines down.



>> IF you have it turned on, then manual.doc.exe appears in windows

>> Explorer as manual.doc .   Same for whatever other extension it

>> considers for "known file types", which might include .jpg and .pdr.

>

>IS this the file I want to get rid of?



I should have said "for example". What this all means is that any

executable file, such as a virus, whose name ends in .exe , can be

given some innocuous name, like MyMemories.doc or

HistoryOfTheCivilWar.doc but those aren't the full names if they

actually end in .exe but that part is hidden.



Now you can rename any file so it ends in .exe and when you click on

the file, the OS will try to execute it. But in the case of

manual.doc.exe, for example, it IS an executable file and it just

looks like a .doc file if you can't see the .exe part.



and the system will try to executebecause the actual extension is

hidden. And if you saw that it was actually .exe, one would realize

it's much more likely to be a virus than a real doc file or pdf file.

BTW, file names are not limited to having only one period in t he

middle. Valid file names include manual.2010.doc or partA.doc.jpg. I

don't know how many dots are allowed but it's at least 2 or 3.



There are scores of other extensions that are executable. You can

find a list somewhere in the settings of most anti-virus programs.

But most of them don't get hidden if when that terrible setting is on,

I think. But it doesn't have to hide all of them. It only has to

hide .exe which is I think the most common ending.

>

>> YOu'll find the setting in Folder Options, iirc.

>

>Ok, will do, I will turn on the extensions.

>

>> If you back up all your files now, after the problem has started, it

>> will be good that you have any particular file you need, but if you

>> reinstall windows and then copy back every file from the backup, won't

>> you have your original problem back?

>

>I have some success with this. I used the repair module and it still

>didn't work when booting - but it does NOW boot in Safe mode. I am

>hoping that is a very good sign.

>I tried to run the Trendmicro Online virus checker using Ubuntu, but

>it won't let me open the file. I haven't tried it using Knoppix yet

>as I am still downloading the english version. I can see all the

>files and ran a Virus check last night in Safemode, but I went to bed

>before it finished. I will leave it on today and see what happens. I

>have not yet tried booting to REGULAR mode yet since I found out that

>Safe mode works.
 
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:33:30 GMT, John Wunderlich

wrote:



>

>

>Most cases of viruses spreading from USB drives are a result of

>"Autoplay" which causes a program to execute when the disk or drive is

>inserted. In Windows, you can disable Autoplay with TweakUI or simply

>hold down the shift key when you insert the drive (you have to hold it

>down until after it is completely mounted).



Wow. I never knew that before, and I read whatever came with or on

the flashdrive. Thanks a lot.
 
Also, you can create a bootable AV checking CD:

>

> http://www.techmixer.com/bitdefender-rescue-cd-with-auto-update-virus...

>

> More info:

>

> http://www.bitdefender.com/KB417-en--Using-the-BitDefender-Rescue-CD....

>

> Others:

>

> http://www.techmixer.com/free-bootable-antivirus-rescue-cds-download-...



I made a ISO for bitdefender following the instructions. When I

booted, the bitdefender (based on Knoppix) came up. I tried to run it

and it said "Cannot find Knoppix on the system", only a limited menu

available. I went back to the links and read up again and can't see

what I am doing wrong here.

I downloaded the 2008 with internet update. I am going to try the 2009

version next and see what happens, but why do you think this is

occurring?
 
daviddschool wrote:

> Also, you can create a bootable AV checking CD:

>>

>> http://www.techmixer.com/bitdefender-rescue-cd-with-auto-update-virus...

>>

>> More info:

>>

>> http://www.bitdefender.com/KB417-en--Using-the-BitDefender-Rescue-CD....

>>

>> Others:

>>

>> http://www.techmixer.com/free-bootable-antivirus-rescue-cds-download-...

>

> I made a ISO for bitdefender following the instructions. When I

> booted, the bitdefender (based on Knoppix) came up. I tried to run it

> and it said "Cannot find Knoppix on the system", only a limited menu

> available. I went back to the links and read up again and can't see

> what I am doing wrong here.

> I downloaded the 2008 with internet update. I am going to try the 2009

> version next and see what happens, but why do you think this is

> occurring?



I've seen this problem before. Apparently the live CD doesn't work on

every system. Some people have reported success by pressing the Tab

button and entering dma (once the penguins are displayed). This forum

may help:



http://forum.bitdefender.com/index.php?s=95ccfb0cb46e6a95eb41e53160928e10&showforum=185



Also, you can try other live CDs. Avira is one.
 
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:32:12 -0800 (PST), daviddschool

wrote:



> Also, you can create a bootable AV checking CD:

>>

>> http://www.techmixer.com/bitdefender-rescue-cd-with-auto-update-virus...

>>

>> More info:

>>

>> http://www.bitdefender.com/KB417-en--Using-the-BitDefender-Rescue-CD....

>>

>> Others:

>>

>> http://www.techmixer.com/free-bootable-antivirus-rescue-cds-download-...

>

>I made a ISO for bitdefender following the instructions. When I

>booted, the bitdefender (based on Knoppix) came up. I tried to run it

>and it said "Cannot find Knoppix on the system", only a limited menu

>available. I went back to the links and read up again and can't see

>what I am doing wrong here.

>I downloaded the 2008 with internet update. I am going to try the 2009

>version next and see what happens, but why do you think this is

>occurring?



I used BitDefender once, from a booting CD, and it gave me the

opportunity to quarantine several files. So I did. Then when I

rebooted to winXP, I found out that the quarantine file was on a RAM

disk, that disappears as soon as one turns off the computer or does

Restart. So all the files were gone. They shouldn't have used the

word quarantine.



If I hand't looked at their names somewhat, I would have had no idea

what they were. So I'd recommend considering Quarantine as if it were

Delete. Either examine the file names so closely you're sure you want

to delete them, or just write down their full (usually very long)

names and then don't quarantine/delete them until you're back in

Windows. Many such files are tracking cookies, but some may be

worse.



I didn't see any other email address so I posted comments to the Bit

Defender home page/forums and to the page from which I dl'd, but after

more than a week, no one had replied. And certainly no one emailed

me.
 
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daviddschool wrote:

> Also, you can create a bootable AV checking CD:

>> http://www.techmixer.com/bitdefender-rescue-cd-with-auto-update-virus...

>>

>> More info:

>>

>> http://www.bitdefender.com/KB417-en--Using-the-BitDefender-Rescue-CD....

>>

>> Others:

>>

>> http://www.techmixer.com/free-bootable-antivirus-rescue-cds-download-...

>

> I made a ISO for bitdefender following the instructions. When I

> booted, the bitdefender (based on Knoppix) came up. I tried to run it

> and it said "Cannot find Knoppix on the system", only a limited menu

> available. I went back to the links and read up again and can't see

> what I am doing wrong here.

> I downloaded the 2008 with internet update. I am going to try the 2009

> version next and see what happens, but why do you think this is

> occurring?



Bitdefender used a poor choice of colors for the background. The boot

command is black text on a dark background.



By using Isomaster in another Linux distro, I replaced "splash.png" with

an all-white background image, so I can see the text. When you press "tab",

the boot line should look like:



linux ramdisk_size=131072 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=791

initrd=minirt.gz nomce loglevel=0 quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix



That text is virtually invisible, on the unmodified Bitdefender boot screen.



When the CD boots, normally the Knoppix image would be somewhere like



/cdrom/KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX



That is the thing the boot CD could be complaining about, not being

able to find the large "knoppix" file that holds the entire file

system in a compressed form.



On other, later versions of Knoppix, than the 5.0.1 that Bitdefender CD is

based on, you could use the "fromhd" command line option, to "help" the

booting process along. For example, my Knoppix 6.0.2 CD is brain-dead

and cannot find the CD once the booting process starts. A fix is to do



knoppix fromhd=/dev/sdd1



where the part on the end could be sdc1, sdd1, sde1 - it really

varies according to how many disks you have. My CD drive is addressed

in a similar way to my hard drives.



On older versions of Knoppix, it might even be /dev/sr or /dev/sr0

or /dev/cdrom or /dev/cdrom1 or the like.



I can't say exactly what is busted in your situation right now,

but that is what my testing of the Bitdefender ISO file in

VPC2007 (Virtual PC) is showing me. (I use Virtual PC as a quick

test vehicle for ISO9660 files, before wasting an actual CD

on the download. That has saved me a few CDs, on things that

aren't worth burning.)



The version of Isomaster I used, was in Knoppix 5.3.1, which is a

DVD sized download. Some people in Japan, managed to remaster the

5.3.1 DVD version, and make a CD out of it, and that may be a

better compromise version, than having to download a 4GB+ file for

the DVD version. If you have some other way to make modifications

to an ISO9660 file, that might be a more pragmatic option.



If you want to take a quick look at the files inside your downloaded

ISO9660 file, the 7zip program knows how to read an ISO9660. Using that

program, you can quickly explore the ISO9660 file, and see the

/boot/isolinux/splash.png file I'm referring to. While you could take

the ISO9660 apart into its separate files, I don't know if that would

really help you at all. Isomaster is the tool I use, for quick surgery

jobs.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7zip



HTH,

Paul
 
> Bitdefender used a poor choice of colors for the background. The boot

> command is black text on a dark background.



It seems to boot ok, it does the test for RAM etc, I get the penguins

(linux) but it says it cannot find the file structure for Knoppix.

BUT when I read the instructions, it did not say to ADD Knoppix to

the ISO - is that something I should have done?

It never does give me a chance to PICK or choose from a MENU using the

Bitdefender ISO that I download (newest version 2009 and the 2008

version).

Both are iso and both burned, yet both cannot find the file structure

for Knoppix. I assumed it was included with Bit Defender, but maybe

that is what I am wrong.



> I can't say exactly what is busted in your situation right now,

> but that is what my testing of the Bitdefender ISO file in

> VPC2007 (Virtual PC) is showing me. (I use Virtual PC as a quick

> test vehicle for ISO9660 files, before wasting an actual CD

> on the download. That has saved me a few CDs, on things that

> aren't worth burning.)



Again, I took the information and the steps right from the Bitdefender

page, but I thought I might have missed something. No where does it

say to include KNOPPIX in the ISO. It just says to download the ISO

for bitdefender and burn to an ISO and it should be good to go, but it

is not.



> If you want to take a quick look at the files inside your downloaded

> ISO9660 file, the 7zip program knows how to read an ISO9660. Using that

> program, you can quickly explore the ISO9660 file, and see the

> /boot/isolinux/splash.png file I'm referring to. While you could take

> the ISO9660 apart into its separate files, I don't know if that would

> really help you at all. Isomaster is the tool I use, for quick surgery

> jobs.

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7zip

>

> HTH,



I will look inside the ISO and see if there is a file structure for

Knoppix. If not, how should I go about adding it?
 
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daviddschool wrote:

>> Bitdefender used a poor choice of colors for the background. The boot

>> command is black text on a dark background.

>

> It seems to boot ok, it does the test for RAM etc, I get the penguins

> (linux) but it says it cannot find the file structure for Knoppix.

> BUT when I read the instructions, it did not say to ADD Knoppix to

> the ISO - is that something I should have done?

> It never does give me a chance to PICK or choose from a MENU using the

> Bitdefender ISO that I download (newest version 2009 and the 2008

> version).

> Both are iso and both burned, yet both cannot find the file structure

> for Knoppix. I assumed it was included with Bit Defender, but maybe

> that is what I am wrong.



It is included. "KNOPPIX" is a file within the ISO. That file

contains an entire compressed file system, and the boot loader

cannot go any further, unless the stuff that makes up the OS

is available to it.



>

>> I can't say exactly what is busted in your situation right now,

>> but that is what my testing of the Bitdefender ISO file in

>> VPC2007 (Virtual PC) is showing me. (I use Virtual PC as a quick

>> test vehicle for ISO9660 files, before wasting an actual CD

>> on the download. That has saved me a few CDs, on things that

>> aren't worth burning.)

>

> Again, I took the information and the steps right from the Bitdefender

> page, but I thought I might have missed something. No where does it

> say to include KNOPPIX in the ISO. It just says to download the ISO

> for bitdefender and burn to an ISO and it should be good to go, but it

> is not.

>

>> If you want to take a quick look at the files inside your downloaded

>> ISO9660 file, the 7zip program knows how to read an ISO9660. Using that

>> program, you can quickly explore the ISO9660 file, and see the

>> /boot/isolinux/splash.png file I'm referring to. While you could take

>> the ISO9660 apart into its separate files, I don't know if that would

>> really help you at all. Isomaster is the tool I use, for quick surgery

>> jobs.

>>

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7zip

>>

>> HTH,

>

> I will look inside the ISO and see if there is a file structure for

> Knoppix. If not, how should I go about adding it?



My theory is, that the boot loader has become confused, and is looking

in the wrong place for the KNOPPIX file. My suggestion to try the

"fromhd=/dev/somedevice" kind of boot option, is a workaround for

whatever problem is causing it.



If you look in this sample screenshot, of Knoppix 5.0.1 or similar starting,

you can see a line



Found primary KNOPPIX compressed image at /cdrom/KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX



and that would be an example of a successful attempt to find the

file system container. There are at least two mount operations

going on there - /dev/cdrom is mounted at mount point /cdrom, so that

the contents of the CD are visible to the OS. Then, the /cdrom/KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX

file is accessed, and the contents are mounted on /, to give /bin, /usr

and all the rest of a Linux environment. That "KNOPPIX" file remains

compressed, and only the sections needed at the moment are decompressed

and loaded into RAM. It allows a Knoppix CD to hold more than double

the normal size constraints of a CD - that is why they do it that way.



http://img.f.hatena.ne.jp/images/fotolife/l/lugia/20080723/20080723233739.png



I'm only a Linux noob - I use Linux CDs mainly for maintenance, and

have learned a couple tricks for making my collection of CDs work.



Do you happen to have a partition on your hard drive, of type

EXT2 or EXT3 ? In one case, that was what was causing the boot

CD to latch onto the wrong partition and become confused. Whacking

the distro over the head with "fromhd=/dev/somedevice" gets it

looking in the right place again.



Paul
 
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Paul wrote:



>

> I'm only a Linux noob - I use Linux CDs mainly for maintenance, and

> have learned a couple tricks for making my collection of CDs work.

>

> Do you happen to have a partition on your hard drive, of type

> EXT2 or EXT3 ? In one case, that was what was causing the boot

> CD to latch onto the wrong partition and become confused. Whacking

> the distro over the head with "fromhd=/dev/somedevice" gets it

> looking in the right place again.

>

> Paul



There is another way to get a copy of Bitdefender. If you already

have a working Linux environment of some kind, you can run a particular

download from within Linux. (I.e. Use a web browser in Linux, download the .run

file and execute it. That should result in the files inside being installed.)



http://download.bitdefender.com/SMB..._Scanner_for_Unices/Unix/Current/EN_FR_BR_RO/



Since my collection of Knoppix CDs are based on Debian, I'd probably

download this file. Inside is a script plus inline binary data, which

represents a set of files for the install. If you were using a

Linux LiveCD, those files would be stored in RAM, and would disappear

when the computer reboots. So you'd want to save this file somewhere,

if you expect to use it a second time. (Perhaps why I have a copy

of this sitting in my downloads folder.)



BitDefender-Antivirus-Scanner-7.6-4.linux-gcc4x.i586.deb.run



The permissions on the file should be executable.



chmod 755 BitDefender-Antivirus-Scanner-7.6-4.linux-gcc4x.i586.deb.run



Then, execute it.



./BitDefender-Antivirus-Scanner-7.6-4.linux-gcc4x.i586.deb.run



One of the disadvantages of Linux LiveCDs for maintenance, is if

things aren't "ready-to-go", you need to know your way around a

terminal window, to correct whatever is screwed up. Which isn't very

convenient.



Paul
 
> It is included. "KNOPPIX" is a file within the ISO. That file

> contains an entire compressed file system, and the boot loader

> cannot go any further, unless the stuff that makes up the OS

> is available to it.



Ok, I am home now and wrote down everything it says when booting. I

have win Xp running on an 80gig HD, that is it. There are no

partitions.

I have another 250 gig drive, slave and a DVD writer that is running

the Bitdefender.



I am including this because maybe I left out something important.

Ok, burned the Bitdefender ISO on 2 different discs -

Disc 1 . 2008

Disc 2. 2009



Tried both and here is what comes up (I wrote this down from the

screen)

Menu options :



START KNOPPIX ENGLISH

START KNOPPIX FRENCH

START CONSOLE MODE

MEMORY TEST

BOOT FROM HD





>

>

>

>

>

> >> I can't say exactly what is busted in your situation right now,

> >> but that is what my testing of the Bitdefender ISO file in

> >> VPC2007 (Virtual PC) is showing me. (I use Virtual PC as a quick

> >> test vehicle for ISO9660 files, before wasting an actual CD

> >> on the download. That has saved me a few CDs, on things that

> >> aren't worth burning.)

>

> > Again, I took the information and the steps right from the Bitdefender

> > page, but I thought I might have missed something.  No where does it

> > say to include KNOPPIX in the ISO.  It just says to download the ISO

> > for bitdefender and burn to an ISO and it should be good to go, but it

> > is not.

>

> >> If you want to take a quick look at the files inside your downloaded

> >> ISO9660 file, the 7zip program knows how to read an ISO9660. Using that

> >> program, you can quickly explore the ISO9660 file, and see the

> >> /boot/isolinux/splash.png file I'm referring to. While you could take

> >> the ISO9660 apart into its separate files, I don't know if that would

> >> really help you at all. Isomaster is the tool I use, for quick surgery

> >> jobs.

>

> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7zip

>

> >> HTH,

>

> > I will look inside the ISO and see if there is a file structure for

> > Knoppix.  If not, how should I go about adding it?

>

> My theory is, that the boot loader has become confused, and is looking

> in the wrong place for the KNOPPIX file. My suggestion to try the

> "fromhd=/dev/somedevice" kind of boot option, is a workaround for

> whatever problem is causing it.

>

> If you look in this sample screenshot, of Knoppix 5.0.1 or similar starting,

> you can see a line

>

>     Found primary KNOPPIX compressed image at /cdrom/KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX

>

> and that would be an example of a successful attempt to find the

> file system container. There are at least two mount operations

> going on there - /dev/cdrom is mounted at mount point /cdrom, so that

> the contents of the CD are visible to the OS. Then, the /cdrom/KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX

> file is accessed, and the contents are mounted on /, to give /bin, /usr

> and all the rest of a Linux environment. That "KNOPPIX" file remains

> compressed, and only the sections needed at the moment are decompressed

> and loaded into RAM. It allows a Knoppix CD to hold more than double

> the normal size constraints of a CD - that is why they do it that way.

>

> http://img.f.hatena.ne.jp/images/fotolife/l/lugia/20080723/2008072323...

>

> I'm only a Linux noob - I use Linux CDs mainly for maintenance, and

> have learned a couple tricks for making my collection of CDs work.

>

> Do you happen to have a partition on your hard drive, of type

> EXT2 or EXT3 ? In one case, that was what was causing the boot

> CD to latch onto the wrong partition and become confused. Whacking

> the distro over the head with "fromhd=/dev/somedevice" gets it

> looking in the right place again.

>

>     Paul
 
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