XP Pro question

[Motort]

I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in

anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows

products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it

doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?

As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that

has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.

 

[smlunatick]

On Apr 5, 4:07 pm, Motort wrote:

>         I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in

> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows

> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it

> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?

>         As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that

> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.



Why would you want to buy Windows XP just to replace it with Windows

7? Windows 7 Upgrade will not upgrade from XP. It will create a

"custom" fresh install.

 

[Motort]

smlunatick wrote:

> On Apr 5, 4:07 pm, Motort wrote:

>> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in

>> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows

>> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it

>> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?

>> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that

>> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.

>

> Why would you want to buy Windows XP just to replace it with Windows

> 7? Windows 7 Upgrade will not upgrade from XP. It will create a

> "custom" fresh install.



So, then I wouldn't have to provide proof of any previous windows

products? I'm considering Windows Home Premium Full. Is that all I'd

need? Thanks.

 

[smlunatick]

On Apr 5, 4:28 pm, Motort wrote:

> smlunatick wrote:

> > On Apr 5, 4:07 pm, Motort wrote:

> >>         I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in

> >> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows

> >> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it

> >> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?

> >>         As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for asystem that

> >> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.

>

> > Why would you want to buy Windows XP just to replace it with Windows

> > 7?  Windows 7 Upgrade will not upgrade from XP.  It will create a

> > "custom" fresh install.

>

>         So, then I wouldn't have to provide proof of any previouswindows

> products? I'm considering Windows Home Premium Full. Is that all I'd

> need? Thanks.



Windows 7 Upgrades will still require a "qualifying" previous Windows

version. Windows XP will qualify but the Upgrade will require to have

availably partition disk space to create the newer Windows 7

installation:



http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Upgrading to Windows 7: frequently asked questions

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/upgrading-to-windows-7-frequently-asked-questions





Motort wrote:

> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in

> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows

> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it

> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?

> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that

> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.

 

[db]

you should go the

machines homesite

to check out what

version of windows

it was designed for.



if it was designed for

xp then it is highly

unlikely that win7

can function on it.



the same can be said

for machines designed

for win7.



some machines can't

be downgraded if the

maker hasn't provided

critical drivers for it and

made for the xp o.s.



in any case, microsoft

provides a win7 upgrade

advisor.



you should use the program

in addition to the facts you

ascertain from the maker

of the machine to determine

if upgrading to win7 is

flawless or problematic /

impossible.



--



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DatabaseBen, Retired Professional

- Systems Analyst

- Database Developer

- Accountancy

- Veteran of the Armed Forces

- Microsoft Partner

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~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen



>

>



"Motort" wrote in message news:uiWd0GN1KHA.4412@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows

> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional

> expired?

> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.

 

[Motort]

smlunatick wrote:

> On Apr 5, 4:28 pm, Motort wrote:

>> smlunatick wrote:

>>> On Apr 5, 4:07 pm, Motort wrote:

>>>> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in

>>>> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows

>>>> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it

>>>> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?

>>>> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that

>>>> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.

>>> Why would you want to buy Windows XP just to replace it with Windows

>>> 7? Windows 7 Upgrade will not upgrade from XP. It will create a

>>> "custom" fresh install.

>> So, then I wouldn't have to provide proof of any previous windows

>> products? I'm considering Windows Home Premium Full. Is that all I'd

>> need? Thanks.

>

> Windows 7 Upgrades will still require a "qualifying" previous Windows

> version. Windows XP will qualify but the Upgrade will require to have

> availably partition disk space to create the newer Windows 7

> installation:

>

> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7



If I just landed on this planet, built a new computer with a brand

spankin' new hard drive (never seen a Microsoft product), which

Windows 7 edition could I legally install as my OS? (Doesn't require

previous Windows of any kind). Thanks.

 

[joe]

db



Your posts are so difficult to read it looks like a Don Juan poem. Your

answers are great but why oh why can't you change the layout?





"db" wrote in message

news:AADE8E6F-CD4E-4D1D-B77B-7053D34D33DB@microsoft.com...

> you should go the

> machines homesite

> to check out what

> version of windows

> it was designed for.

>

> if it was designed for

> xp then it is highly

> unlikely that win7

> can function on it.

>

> the same can be said

> for machines designed

> for win7.

>

> some machines can't

> be downgraded if the

> maker hasn't provided

> critical drivers for it and

> made for the xp o.s.

>

> in any case, microsoft

> provides a win7 upgrade

> advisor.

>

> you should use the program

> in addition to the facts you

> ascertain from the maker

> of the machine to determine

> if upgrading to win7 is

> flawless or problematic /

> impossible.

>

> --

>

> db·´¯`·...¸>

> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional

> - Systems Analyst

> - Database Developer

> - Accountancy

> - Veteran of the Armed Forces

> - Microsoft Partner

> - @hotmail.com

> ~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen

>

>>

>>

>

> "Motort" wrote in message

> news:uiWd0GN1KHA.4412@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in

>> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows

>> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it

>> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional

>> expired?

>> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that has

>> never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.

>

 

[DL]

Any full retail version of win 7, ie not an upgrade version



One assumes whatever sys you are installing on meets the win 7 hardware

requirements



"Motort" wrote in message

news:uYMAWyN1KHA.4548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> smlunatick wrote:

>> On Apr 5, 4:28 pm, Motort wrote:

>>> smlunatick wrote:

>>>> On Apr 5, 4:07 pm, Motort wrote:

>>>>> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional

>>>>> in

>>>>> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows

>>>>> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it

>>>>> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?

>>>>> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system

>>>>> that

>>>>> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.

>>>> Why would you want to buy Windows XP just to replace it with Windows

>>>> 7? Windows 7 Upgrade will not upgrade from XP. It will create a

>>>> "custom" fresh install.

>>> So, then I wouldn't have to provide proof of any previous

>>> windows

>>> products? I'm considering Windows Home Premium Full. Is that all I'd

>>> need? Thanks.

>>

>> Windows 7 Upgrades will still require a "qualifying" previous Windows

>> version. Windows XP will qualify but the Upgrade will require to have

>> availably partition disk space to create the newer Windows 7

>> installation:

>>

>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7

>

> If I just landed on this planet, built a new computer with a brand

> spankin' new hard drive (never seen a Microsoft product), which Windows 7

> edition could I legally install as my OS? (Doesn't require previous

> Windows of any kind). Thanks.

 

[The Seabat]

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 09:25:17 -0700, Motort

wrote:



>>smlunatick wrote:

>>> On Apr 5, 4:28 pm, Motort wrote:

>>>> smlunatick wrote:

>>>>> On Apr 5, 4:07 pm, Motort wrote:

>>>>>> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in

>>>>>> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows

>>>>>> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it

>>>>>> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?

>>>>>> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that

>>>>>> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.

>>>>> Why would you want to buy Windows XP just to replace it with Windows

>>>>> 7? Windows 7 Upgrade will not upgrade from XP. It will create a

>>>>> "custom" fresh install.

>>>> So, then I wouldn't have to provide proof of any previous windows

>>>> products? I'm considering Windows Home Premium Full. Is that all I'd

>>>> need? Thanks.

>>>

>>> Windows 7 Upgrades will still require a "qualifying" previous Windows

>>> version. Windows XP will qualify but the Upgrade will require to have

>>> availably partition disk space to create the newer Windows 7

>>> installation:

>>>

>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7

>>

>> If I just landed on this planet, built a new computer with a brand

>>spankin' new hard drive (never seen a Microsoft product), which

>>Windows 7 edition could I legally install as my OS? (Doesn't require

>>previous Windows of any kind). Thanks.



Any of them.

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[Ken Blake, MVP]

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 08:07:38 -0700, Motort

wrote:



> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in

> anticipating an advance to Windows 7.





Why? Why do you want to spend extra money to buy two operating systems

instead of just one? If you want Windows 7, buy Windows 7.





> (Have no previous Windows

> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it

> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?

> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that

> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.





Just buy the retail Windows 7 Full version and forget about XP.



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[Doum]

Motort écrivait news:uiWd0GN1KHA.4412

@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:



> I'm considering buying a Full version Windows XP Professional in

> anticipating an advance to Windows 7. (Have no previous Windows

> products). I don't know if the version has any Service Packs. If it

> doesn't can I still get them, or is support for professional expired?

> As an aside, what version of Windows 7 do I need for a system that

> has never had a Microsoft product? Thanks.

>



http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=368

&name=Operating-Systems



Compare the prices on this page and you will see that it's not worth it to

buy XP if you eventually want to get Seven.



XP PRO OEM is $190 and the Seven pro upgrade is $176 for a total of $366.



On the other hand Seven Ultimate FULL is $285, Seven Home Premium FULL $180

and Seven Pro FULL is $269, those FULL packages don't need a previous

version.



On what computer do you want to install this?

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Motort wrote:

>

>

> If I just landed on this planet, built a new computer with a brand

> spankin' new hard drive (never seen a Microsoft product), which Windows

> 7 edition could I legally install as my OS? (Doesn't require previous

> Windows of any kind). Thanks.





You'll need a Full (*not* upgrade) license for whichever edition best

meets your computing needs, of which you've told us absolutely nothing.



Compare Windows 7 Home Premium, Professional, and Ultimate

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/compare/default.aspx





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[LD55ZRA]

If you search hard on the net, you will find that you DON't need

any previous version of Office XP or Vista to install Windows 7

using an upgrade DVD of Win7. This is a fact but morons, who

define morality, will tell you otherwise.



If you agree, I can post links to articles I have written about

this subject.



hth





Motort wrote:

>

>

> So, then I wouldn't have to provide proof of any previous windows

> products? I'm considering Windows Home Premium Full. Is that all I'd

> need? Thanks.



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[LD55ZRA]

smlunatick wrote:

>



> Windows 7 Upgrades will still require a "qualifying" previous Windows

> version.



Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish;

Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish; Rubbish;



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[LD55ZRA]

Motort wrote:

>



> If I just landed on this planet, built a new computer with a brand

> spankin' new hard drive (never seen a Microsoft product), which

> Windows 7 edition could I legally install as my OS? (Doesn't require

> previous Windows of any kind). Thanks.





When you say legally what exactly do you mean by that. Do you

mean to say legality as understood by Microsoft who goes around

pirating somebody's Patent or legality as defined by morons whose

morality is completely twisted?



hth





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[LD55ZRA]

joe wrote:

>

> db

>

> Your posts are so difficult to read it looks like a Don Juan poem. Your

> answers are great but why oh why can't you change the layout?

>



He has changed it because Pig-Bear was having problems reading his

messages in his newsreader. Apparently they had very long lines

and required him {Pig-Bear i mean} to move his hand to scroll left

to right and so DB came to this wonderful compromise. this layout

has been around for nearly 5 years it seems. check it out!!!



hth



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[Twayne]

In news:AADE8E6F-CD4E-4D1D-B77B-7053D34D33DB@microsoft.com,

db typed:

> you should go the

> machines homesite

> to check out what

> version of windows

> it was designed for.

>

> if it was designed for

> xp then it is highly

> unlikely that win7

> can function on it.

>

> the same can be said

> for machines designed

> for win7.

>

> some machines can't

> be downgraded if the

> maker hasn't provided

> critical drivers for it and

> made for the xp o.s.

....



Well, sort of. I am writing this on a win7 machine with XP and

4 Gig of RAM installed. The XP install disk is identical to

the one from my other purchase; it's only locked by

Activation. Many win7 machines can still run XP. The drivers

issue is really only around the chipset and any cheapo onboard

things they might have on the mobo. On this Dell though,

either works as well as the other with the standard install

disks. It arrived with win7; didn't like it, so installed a

retail XP; no problems; even all onboard stuff works.

Standard chipset, etc..

Other than the chipset, I have yet to see any mainstream

product for win7 that doesn't also have drivers for winXP.

That does NOT mean however, that any win7 can be downgraded to

XP; start by checking out the chipset drivers.



HTH,



Twayne`

 

[vip]

> If I just landed on this planet, built a new computer with a brand

> spankin' new hard drive (never seen a Microsoft product), which Windows

> 7 edition could I legally install as my OS? (Doesn't require previous

> Windows of any kind). Thanks.



I have followed your thread thus far, and I have a Q for you. Why are

you so bent on updating to the latest windows product when you seem to

be not too sure how to use the others?

What is it that you do on a computer? Is it something specific that

you feel W7 has to offer that you cant access now?

I dont use 7 or Vespa (putt putt), and for most part, xp.

Personally, I could launch the shuttle from win3.1



Why are you bent on giving $micro $$'s when it seems you havent mastered

the crux of computing.



Just a thought.