Widows restore only goes back for one day.

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I have WindowsXP SP3,





For some reason I get only one restore point with System

Restore.



I have the following drive settings:



C: 6%

D: 4%

E 4%



In the past I could automatically get several day's restore

points. Why do I get only one now?



Please help, Frank
 
On Apr 11, 9:32 pm, "Frank Martin" wrote:

> I have WindowsXP SP3,

>

> For some reason I get only one restore point with System

> Restore.

>

> I have the following drive settings:

>

> C: 6%

> D: 4%

> E  4%

>

> In the past I could automatically get several day's restore

> points.   Why do I get only one now?

>

> Please help, Frank



Are you able to ascertain that the one RP you have is the most recent?



If you have chosen to use the XP Disk Cleanup or some third party

application like CCleaner with certain options, all but the last RP

will be deleted if you choose to do so. Any of that sound familiar?



You can test your SR by making a manual RP, reboot, check to be sure a

new RP was created in the calendar and then wait at least 24 hours and

see if XP will make a RP on it's own when the time to create a new RP

rolls around. XP would like to create a new RP every 24 hours, but

may not do so automatically for a number of reasons - which, I can

explain why not later if needed. Some system configuration changes or

software installations will also force a new RP before the 24 hours

expires. So, you can have days and days go by with no RPs and some

days with several, but nothing should defy explanation when it comes

to RPs.



If you are even remotely suspicious about your SR, then I would do

this:



Perform some scans for malicious software, then fix any remaining

issues:



Download, install, update and do a full scan with these free malware

detection programs:



Malwarebytes (MBAM): http://malwarebytes.org/

SUPERAntiSpyware: (SAS): http://www.superantispyware.com/



They can be uninstalled later if desired.
 
Many posts on this newsgroup indicate Zone Alarm is responsible. Do you have

ZA installed?

"Frank Martin" wrote in message

news:%23zhBCAe2KHA.6048@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>I have WindowsXP SP3,

>

>

> For some reason I get only one restore point with System Restore.

>

> I have the following drive settings:

>

> C: 6%

> D: 4%

> E 4%

>

> In the past I could automatically get several day's restore points. Why

> do I get only one now?

>

> Please help, Frank

>
 
And Symantec can interfere



Unknown wrote:



> Many posts on this newsgroup indicate Zone Alarm is responsible. Do you have

> ZA installed?

> "Frank Martin" wrote in message

> news:%23zhBCAe2KHA.6048@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>

>>I have WindowsXP SP3,

>>

>>

>>For some reason I get only one restore point with System Restore.

>>

>>I have the following drive settings:

>>

>>C: 6%

>>D: 4%

>>E 4%

>>

>>In the past I could automatically get several day's restore points. Why

>>do I get only one now?

>>

>>Please help, Frank

>>

>

>

>
 
Frank Martin wrote:

> I have WindowsXP SP3,

>

>

> For some reason I get only one restore point with System

> Restore.

>

> I have the following drive settings:

>

> C: 6%

> D: 4%

> E 4%

>

> In the past I could automatically get several day's restore

> points. Why do I get only one now?

>

> Please help, Frank

>

>



1. The percentages are not as important as the actual disk space

allocated to System Restore. Try to have about 1 GB.

2. You only need System Restore on the system partition, which

presumably is C:. Turn it off on D: and E:

3. Under some circumstances (which I can't recall at the moment), System

Restore points become very large, which will limit the number of restore

points that fit into the space allocated.

4. For everything you wanted to know about System Restore, and more, see

http://bertk.mvps.org/



--

Lem



Apollo 11 - 40 years ago:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
 
Lem wrote:

> Frank Martin wrote:

>> I have WindowsXP SP3,

>>

>>

>> For some reason I get only one restore point with System

>> Restore.

>>

>> I have the following drive settings:

>>

>> C: 6%

>> D: 4%

>> E 4%

>>

>> In the past I could automatically get several day's restore

>> points. Why do I get only one now?

>>

>> Please help, Frank

>>

>>

>

> 1. The percentages are not as important as the actual disk space

> allocated to System Restore. Try to have about 1 GB.

> 2. You only need System Restore on the system partition, which

> presumably is C:. Turn it off on D: and E:

> 3. Under some circumstances (which I can't recall at the moment),

> System Restore points become very large, which will limit the number

> of restore points that fit into the space allocated.

> 4. For everything you wanted to know about System Restore, and more,

> see http://bertk.mvps.org/



+1
 
Lem wrote:

> Frank Martin wrote:

>> I have WindowsXP SP3,

>>

>>

>> For some reason I get only one restore point with System Restore.

>>

>> I have the following drive settings:

>>

>> C: 6%

>> D: 4%

>> E 4%

>>

>> In the past I could automatically get several day's restore points.

>> Why do I get only one now?

>>

>> Please help, Frank

>>

>

> 1. The percentages are not as important as the actual disk space

> allocated to System Restore. Try to have about 1 GB.

> 2. You only need System Restore on the system partition, which

> presumably is C:. Turn it off on D: and E:

> 3. Under some circumstances (which I can't recall at the moment), System

> Restore points become very large, which will limit the number of restore

> points that fit into the space allocated.

> 4. For everything you wanted to know about System Restore, and more, see

> http://bertk.mvps.org/

>



Also see recent post by mkenewbie "No prior system restore points" --

the problem there was caused by a recent update to ZoneAlarm:



> Thanks for ALL the suggestions here from those who responded. It DID turn out

> to be an issue with Zone Alarms' latest update. Seems many (or everyone) that

> updated to it has the same issue of only the current System Restore Point

> being shown. All previous ones are wiped out.

>

> I chatted live with their tech group and they are aware of it and working on

> it. So presumably a new update will be forthcoming. In the meantime one can

> go back to a previous version or just risk having one restore point available.







--

Lem



Apollo 11 - 40 years ago:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
 
Thank you. I have CCleaner and I switched this off for two

days as a test.



Sure enough, the extra restore points are now being added.





So is was CCleaner V2.25. How do I adjust CCleaner to

prevent it trashing past restore points?



Please help, Frank



(I already have "Malwarebytes" which I run regularly.)











"Jose" wrote in message

news:bf866473-f9d5-4be9-9f4c-4bef54ed19c6@x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 11, 9:32 pm, "Frank Martin"

wrote:

> I have WindowsXP SP3,

>

> For some reason I get only one restore point with System

> Restore.

>

> I have the following drive settings:

>

> C: 6%

> D: 4%

> E 4%

>

> In the past I could automatically get several day's

> restore

> points. Why do I get only one now?

>

> Please help, Frank



Are you able to ascertain that the one RP you have is the

most recent?



If you have chosen to use the XP Disk Cleanup or some third

party

application like CCleaner with certain options, all but the

last RP

will be deleted if you choose to do so. Any of that sound

familiar?



You can test your SR by making a manual RP, reboot, check to

be sure a

new RP was created in the calendar and then wait at least 24

hours and

see if XP will make a RP on it's own when the time to create

a new RP

rolls around. XP would like to create a new RP every 24

hours, but

may not do so automatically for a number of reasons - which,

I can

explain why not later if needed. Some system configuration

changes or

software installations will also force a new RP before the

24 hours

expires. So, you can have days and days go by with no RPs

and some

days with several, but nothing should defy explanation when

it comes

to RPs.



If you are even remotely suspicious about your SR, then I

would do

this:



Perform some scans for malicious software, then fix any

remaining

issues:



Download, install, update and do a full scan with these free

malware

detection programs:



Malwarebytes (MBAM): http://malwarebytes.org/

SUPERAntiSpyware: (SAS): http://www.superantispyware.com/



They can be uninstalled later if desired.
 
On Apr 13, 6:35 pm, "Frank Martin" wrote:

> Thank you.  I have CCleaner and I switched this off for two

> days as a test.

>

> Sure enough, the extra restore points are now being added.

>

> So is was CCleaner V2.25.   How do I adjust CCleaner to

> prevent it trashing past restore points?

>

> Please help, Frank

>



Well, your CCleaner version is old - 2.30 is out now.



Looking at their forums, some users reported this phenomenon and the

CCleaner people said "no way!" (unless you manually did it).



One user said he narrowed it down and figured out that if he used

CCleaner to empty the Recycle Bin, it took the RPs with it.

Unconfirmed, but that guy is convinced.



I just used CCleaner 2.30 and emptied my RB and my RPs were still

there.



I put some things in my RB and set up CCleaner to run on startup,

rebooted and it did run/cleanup and my RPs will still there.



In the past few days, some version of ZoneAlarm seems to be behind all

but the last RP being deleted too, so do you also have ZA installed?



It could be CCleaner, but if I were you I would:



Get on the current version of CCleaner

Configure CCleaner to run on startup if that is your desire

Make some RPs by hand so you don't have to wait days to test.

Reboot

See if the RPs were deleted



I imagine the CCleaner people would like to hear about your issue in

their forums if you can reproduce it consistently on their latest

version.



http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/help
 
On Apr 14, 7:34 am, Jose wrote:

> On Apr 13, 6:35 pm, "Frank Martin" wrote:

>

> > Thank you.  I have CCleaner and I switched this off for two

> > days as a test.

>

> > Sure enough, the extra restore points are now being added.

>

> > So is was CCleaner V2.25.   How do I adjust CCleaner to

> > prevent it trashing past restore points?

>

> > Please help, Frank

>

> Well, your CCleaner version is old - 2.30 is out now.

>

> Looking at their forums, some users reported this phenomenon and the

> CCleaner people said "no way!" (unless you manually did it).

>

> One user said he narrowed it down and figured out that if he used

> CCleaner to empty the Recycle Bin, it took the RPs with it.

> Unconfirmed,  but that guy is convinced.

>

> I just used CCleaner 2.30 and emptied my RB and my RPs were still

> there.

>

> I put some things in my RB and set up CCleaner to run on startup,

> rebooted and it did run/cleanup and my RPs will still there.

>

> In the past few days, some version of ZoneAlarm seems to be behind all

> but the last RP being deleted too, so do you also have ZA installed?

>

> It could be CCleaner, but if I were you I would:

>

> Get on the current version of CCleaner

> Configure CCleaner to run on startup if that is your desire

> Make some RPs by hand so you don't have to wait days to test.

> Reboot

> See if the RPs were deleted

>

> I imagine the CCleaner people would like to hear about your issue in

> their forums if you can reproduce it consistently on their latest

> version.

>

> http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/help



Oh yeah - we would like to hear what you discover too.
 
"Jose" wrote in message

news:2fb34f15-212c-464e-a46d-8230666c6c17@u21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 13, 6:35 pm, "Frank Martin"

wrote:

> Thank you. I have CCleaner and I switched this off for two

> days as a test.

>

> Sure enough, the extra restore points are now being added.

>

> So is was CCleaner V2.25. How do I adjust CCleaner to

> prevent it trashing past restore points?

>

> Please help, Frank

>



Well, your CCleaner version is old - 2.30 is out now.



Looking at their forums, some users reported this phenomenon

and the

CCleaner people said "no way!" (unless you manually did it).



One user said he narrowed it down and figured out that if he

used

CCleaner to empty the Recycle Bin, it took the RPs with it.

Unconfirmed, but that guy is convinced.



I just used CCleaner 2.30 and emptied my RB and my RPs were

still

there.



I put some things in my RB and set up CCleaner to run on

startup,

rebooted and it did run/cleanup and my RPs will still there.



In the past few days, some version of ZoneAlarm seems to be

behind all

but the last RP being deleted too, so do you also have ZA

installed?



It could be CCleaner, but if I were you I would:



Get on the current version of CCleaner

Configure CCleaner to run on startup if that is your desire

Make some RPs by hand so you don't have to wait days to

test.

Reboot

See if the RPs were deleted



I imagine the CCleaner people would like to hear about your

issue in

their forums if you can reproduce it consistently on their

latest

version.



http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/help





Thanks, I have been searching about this and CCleaer *does*

trash the System Restore (earlier than one day) on

principle, because these can contain sensitive data.



Evidently one must go to the Options|Exclude in the CCleaner

area and add the folder/file one wishes to be left alone.

For the System Restore this appears to be

C:\System Volume Information\*.*



I am testing this at the moment. Can you tell me if

C:\System Volume Information\*.* completely defines the

System Restore?



Frank...
 
"Jose" wrote in message

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On Apr 14, 7:34 am, Jose wrote:

> On Apr 13, 6:35 pm, "Frank Martin"

> wrote:

>

> > Thank you. I have CCleaner and I switched this off for

> > two

> > days as a test.

>

> > Sure enough, the extra restore points are now being

> > added.

>

> > So is was CCleaner V2.25. How do I adjust CCleaner to

> > prevent it trashing past restore points?

>

> > Please help, Frank

>

> Well, your CCleaner version is old - 2.30 is out now.

>

> Looking at their forums, some users reported this

> phenomenon and the

> CCleaner people said "no way!" (unless you manually did

> it).

>

> One user said he narrowed it down and figured out that if

> he used

> CCleaner to empty the Recycle Bin, it took the RPs with

> it.

> Unconfirmed, but that guy is convinced.

>

> I just used CCleaner 2.30 and emptied my RB and my RPs

> were still

> there.

>

> I put some things in my RB and set up CCleaner to run on

> startup,

> rebooted and it did run/cleanup and my RPs will still

> there.

>

> In the past few days, some version of ZoneAlarm seems to

> be behind all

> but the last RP being deleted too, so do you also have ZA

> installed?

>

> It could be CCleaner, but if I were you I would:

>

> Get on the current version of CCleaner

> Configure CCleaner to run on startup if that is your

> desire

> Make some RPs by hand so you don't have to wait days to

> test.

> Reboot

> See if the RPs were deleted

>

> I imagine the CCleaner people would like to hear about

> your issue in

> their forums if you can reproduce it consistently on their

> latest

> version.

>

> http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/help



Oh yeah - we would like to hear what you discover too.





All I have is Malwarebytes.
 
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