Which Monitor setting?

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In COntrol Panel/Display, under Advanced, there is a setting for the

monitor. It gives me 60hz 70hz 72hz 75hz and 80hz (or is that 85?)

How do I know which setting to use? I DO NOT have the original manual

for the monitor, which I bought second hand. It's a 17" CRT Monitor

made by Spectrum (Spectrum 7Vlr).



When I try to change it, there's a warning saying that setting it

incorrectly can damage the monitor, so I dont want to take chances.

It's presently set to 60hz, works fine at 600x800 resolution, but when

I go to 1024x768, I get wide black bars on both sides of the screen,

so the picture is only in the center. I assume this is the wrong

setting. I never changed it, it must have defaulted to that setting.

How can I find out what to use?



By the way, my other computer which runs Windows 2000 does the same

thing on this same monitor, and that computer is also set to 60hz.



Thanks
 
mister_friendly@the-newzgroups.com wrote:

> In COntrol Panel/Display, under Advanced, there is a setting for the

> monitor. It gives me 60hz 70hz 72hz 75hz and 80hz (or is that 85?)

> How do I know which setting to use? I DO NOT have the original manual

> for the monitor, which I bought second hand. It's a 17" CRT Monitor

> made by Spectrum (Spectrum 7Vlr).

>

> When I try to change it, there's a warning saying that setting it

> incorrectly can damage the monitor, so I dont want to take chances.

> It's presently set to 60hz, works fine at 600x800 resolution, but when

> I go to 1024x768, I get wide black bars on both sides of the screen,

> so the picture is only in the center. I assume this is the wrong

> setting. I never changed it, it must have defaulted to that setting.

> How can I find out what to use?

>

> By the way, my other computer which runs Windows 2000 does the same

> thing on this same monitor, and that computer is also set to 60hz.

>

> Thanks

>




(Translate this link using translate.google.com , from Italian to English)



http://www.frael.it/prodotti/listino/descrizioni.php?codiceprodotto=130089



Size: 17" (43.2cm)

viewable screen area: 16" (40.6cm)

Dot pitch 0.27mm

Maximum resolution 1280 x 1024 at 60Hz

1024 x 768 at 85Hz

Horizontal Frequency 30kHz - 70kHz

Vertical Frequency 50Hz - 120Hz

Width of video bandwidth: 100 MHz

MPRII (emissions)

Plug n Play

VESA DDC1/2B

9 factory presets and 16 user-editable memories monitor OSD control

Commands available: light / dark, contrast, size and displacement axes

horizontal and vertical centering, Cuboid, Keystone,

Rotation, Degauss, Zoom, 6500k/9300k, Colors user poszione OSD

Safety Certifications: Energy Star, UL, CSA, FDA, FCC -B, CE-Marks, TUV-GS

Supply 100VAC - 240VAC, 50Hz - 60Hz

Monitor Size: 410mm x 438mm x 450mm

Weight: 18kg

Average time between failures (MTBF) 50,000 hours



**************************************************



First of all, the monitor specs tell you the maximum refresh rate the

monitor can tolerate. At 1024x768 that is 85Hz. 85Hz will have less flicker

in the image, than if you selected 60Hz. Flicker depends to some extent

on light level, but also depends on the observer. There are some people,

who aren't even happy at 85Hz. They can still see flicker in the image.



So select a refresh that gives an acceptable flicker characteristic.



The higher the refresh, the more stress on the monitor.



Next, the monitor may have either a set of buttons, or an onscreen

display (OSD), with things like screen width, X and Y offset and so

on. To eliminate the black bars, you can try adjusting the image width

using the monitor controls. Adjust, until the image width touches the

edges of the viewable area of the monitor. You may also need to

adjust the X offset from the edge of the screen, to get things

nice and lined up. If you don't, some letters on text documents,

may be disappearing off the edge of the screen.



The monitor is then supposed to memorize those settings, and

associate them with your choice of 1024x768 @ 85Hz. If you

change one of those major settings, like switch to 1024x768 @ 75Hz,

you may have to again adjust screen width, height, X and Y offset,

for best picture. The monitor will have some limit, as to the

number of fixed or custom settings it can handle. With some luck,

you won't have to adjust it any more, if you keep using the

same settings. On my old monitor, sometimes two sets of settings

would be very close to one another, and the wrong set of custom

values would get called up. So the OSD system isn't perfect, and

you sometimes get surprises. The monitor measures the horizontal and

vertical sync rates, to figure out which set of settings to use.



Paul
 
On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:51:48 -0500, mister_friendly@the-newzgroups.com

wrote:



>In COntrol Panel/Display, under Advanced, there is a setting for the

>monitor. It gives me 60hz 70hz 72hz 75hz and 80hz (or is that 85?)

>How do I know which setting to use? I DO NOT have the original manual

>for the monitor, which I bought second hand. It's a 17" CRT Monitor

>made by Spectrum (Spectrum 7Vlr).

>

>When I try to change it, there's a warning saying that setting it

>incorrectly can damage the monitor, so I dont want to take chances.

>It's presently set to 60hz, works fine at 600x800 resolution, but when

>I go to 1024x768, I get wide black bars on both sides of the screen,

>so the picture is only in the center. I assume this is the wrong

>setting. I never changed it, it must have defaulted to that setting.

>How can I find out what to use?

>

>By the way, my other computer which runs Windows 2000 does the same

>thing on this same monitor, and that computer is also set to 60hz.

>

>Thanks




Try : unplugging the lead that goes to the tower for 30 seconds then

plug the lead back in .
 
On 05/06/10 10:28 AM, Jim wrote:

> On Thu, 06 May 2010 00:51:48 -0500, mister_friendly@the-newzgroups.com

> wrote:

>

>> In COntrol Panel/Display, under Advanced, there is a setting for the

>> monitor. It gives me 60hz 70hz 72hz 75hz and 80hz (or is that 85?)

>> How do I know which setting to use? I DO NOT have the original manual

>> for the monitor, which I bought second hand. It's a 17" CRT Monitor

>> made by Spectrum (Spectrum 7Vlr).

>>

>> When I try to change it, there's a warning saying that setting it

>> incorrectly can damage the monitor, so I dont want to take chances.

>> It's presently set to 60hz, works fine at 600x800 resolution, but when

>> I go to 1024x768, I get wide black bars on both sides of the screen,

>> so the picture is only in the center. I assume this is the wrong

>> setting. I never changed it, it must have defaulted to that setting.

>> How can I find out what to use?

>>

>> By the way, my other computer which runs Windows 2000 does the same

>> thing on this same monitor, and that computer is also set to 60hz.

>>

>> Thanks


>

> Try : unplugging the lead that goes to the tower for 30 seconds then

> plug the lead back in .




Try resetting the screen display size/shape with whatever method goes

with the monitor.
 
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Spectrum+7Vlr&ei=UTF-8&fr=hp-pvdt



"mister_friendly@the-newzgroups.com" wrote:



> In COntrol Panel/Display, under Advanced, there is a setting for the

> monitor. It gives me 60hz 70hz 72hz 75hz and 80hz (or is that 85?)

> How do I know which setting to use? I DO NOT have the original manual

> for the monitor, which I bought second hand. It's a 17" CRT Monitor

> made by Spectrum (Spectrum 7Vlr).

>

> When I try to change it, there's a warning saying that setting it

> incorrectly can damage the monitor, so I dont want to take chances.

> It's presently set to 60hz, works fine at 600x800 resolution, but when

> I go to 1024x768, I get wide black bars on both sides of the screen,

> so the picture is only in the center. I assume this is the wrong

> setting. I never changed it, it must have defaulted to that setting.

> How can I find out what to use?

>

> By the way, my other computer which runs Windows 2000 does the same

> thing on this same monitor, and that computer is also set to 60hz.

>

> Thanks

>

> .

>
 
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> In COntrol Panel/Display, under Advanced, there is a setting for the

> monitor. It gives me 60hz 70hz 72hz 75hz and 80hz (or is that 85?)

> How do I know which setting to use? I DO NOT have the original manual

> for the monitor, which I bought second hand. It's a 17" CRT Monitor

> made by Spectrum (Spectrum 7Vlr).

>

> When I try to change it, there's a warning saying that setting it

> incorrectly can damage the monitor, so I dont want to take chances.

> It's presently set to 60hz, works fine at 600x800 resolution, but when

> I go to 1024x768, I get wide black bars on both sides of the screen,

> so the picture is only in the center. I assume this is the wrong

> setting. I never changed it, it must have defaulted to that setting.

> How can I find out what to use?

>

> By the way, my other computer which runs Windows 2000 does the same

> thing on this same monitor, and that computer is also set to 60hz.

>

> Thanks

>




It's not just a question of selecting the screen's optimum setting either.

I have had a problem both on our Dell laptop and pc, that what is 'best' for

XP is not best for Dell. Optimum size and readability in XP only seems to

be possible with a screen resolution that makes picture formats appear too

tall (leading to unnecessary picture edits that then look wrong when printed

out). On the other hand setting the screen to Dell's optimum, makes all the

windows headers and so on too small to read, and there are not enough

options in the desktop properties to put them all right.



It's all rather a compromise: mind you our stuff is getting rather old...



S
 
to OP: Re: Which Monitor setting?

to the OP:



It appears the user manual for that monitor might be here:

http://j.mdownload1.free.fr/Schemas/AOC/7Vlr.pdf



inline, please:



In news:hrtri4$rfg$1@speranza.aioe.org,

Paul typed:

> mister_friendly@the-newzgroups.com wrote:

>> In COntrol Panel/Display, under Advanced, there is a

>> setting for the monitor. It gives me 60hz 70hz 72hz 75hz

>> and 80hz (or is that 85?) How do I know which setting to

>> use? I DO NOT have the original manual for the monitor,

>> which I bought second hand. It's a 17" CRT Monitor made

>> by Spectrum (Spectrum 7Vlr).




Usually in the video card settings, there are two ways to display all the

modes: 1 is only the modes the monitor is capable of the other all modes.

Try looking for that in the Advanced area.



>>

>> When I try to change it, there's a warning saying that

>> setting it incorrectly can damage the monitor, so I dont

>> want to take chances.




Usually it IS possible to find settings that could damage the monitor but

they are the extreme settings. 60 up thru 65 Hz work for any monitor I've

ever come across, and many up to 75 Hz.

The only reason to change that setting would be if you see "flickering"

on your screen. You could safely change it to any of the higher 6x settings

and be safe, probably even the lower 7x settings. But almost everyone finds

something satisfactory in the 6x range, which any monitor can support.



It's presently set to 60hz, works

>> fine at 600x800 resolution, but when I go to 1024x768, I

>> get wide black bars on both sides of the screen, so the

>> picture is only in the center.




How wide ARE those bars? If they're more than, say, half an inch on each

side, I'd stay away from that setting. If they're not too big though, often

times you can adjust the monitor's settings to fill in the empty spaces.

Watch something circular; if it gets oblong, stop; don't use that setting.

REcent video cards can use both analog TV and digital TV layouts, meaning

regular or wide screens. 4:3 is the "normal" screen ratio while 16:9 is for

widescreen. You are likely to have settings available for both on your video

card, so if you monitor is 4:3, a 16:9 setting will give you strange looking

screens, like wide bars on each side. Try the one to the next lower or

higher and see what it looks like. I happen to know that 1024 x 768 is a

standard 4:3 format so it sounds like the minitor cannot handle that high a

res; it must be an old monitor, right?



I assume this is the wrong

>> setting. I never changed it, it must have defaulted to

>> that setting. How can I find out what to use?




You could try the mfr's web site and look for your monitor and specs for it

in the Support areas. Most but not all mfr's have them.



>>

>> By the way, my other computer which runs Windows 2000 does

>> the same thing on this same monitor, and that computer is

>> also set to 60hz.




That is what I'd expect, actually. But, it's not the monitor that makes the

settings, it's the video card and its drivers. The link up top shoujld help

with finding drivers. I typed

aoc spectrum 7vlr

into a google search and got all kinds of hits about your monitor and the

company's many products. There should be lots of good information there for

you.



HTH,



Twayne`





>

>> Thanks

>>


>

> (Translate this link using translate.google.com , from

> Italian to English)

> http://www.frael.it/prodotti/listino/descrizioni.php?codiceprodotto=130089

>

> Size: 17" (43.2cm)

> viewable screen area: 16" (40.6cm)

> Dot pitch 0.27mm

> Maximum resolution 1280 x 1024 at 60Hz

> 1024 x 768 at 85Hz

> Horizontal Frequency 30kHz - 70kHz

> Vertical Frequency 50Hz - 120Hz

> Width of video bandwidth: 100 MHz

> MPRII (emissions)

> Plug n Play

> VESA DDC1/2B

> 9 factory presets and 16 user-editable memories monitor OSD

> control Commands available: light / dark, contrast, size and

> displacement axes horizontal and

> vertical centering, Cuboid, Keystone,

> Rotation, Degauss, Zoom, 6500k/9300k, Colors user poszione

> OSD Safety Certifications: Energy Star, UL, CSA, FDA, FCC -B,

> CE-Marks, TUV-GS Supply 100VAC - 240VAC, 50Hz - 60Hz

> Monitor Size: 410mm x 438mm x 450mm

> Weight: 18kg

> Average time between failures (MTBF) 50,000 hours

>

> **************************************************

>

> First of all, the monitor specs tell you the maximum

> refresh rate the monitor can tolerate. At 1024x768 that is 85Hz. 85Hz will

> have less flicker in the image, than if you selected 60Hz. Flicker depends

> to

> some extent on light level, but also depends on the observer. There are

> some people, who aren't even happy at 85Hz. They can still see flicker

> in the image.

> So select a refresh that gives an acceptable flicker

> characteristic.

> The higher the refresh, the more stress on the monitor.

>

> Next, the monitor may have either a set of buttons, or an

> onscreen display (OSD), with things like screen width, X and Y

> offset and so on. To eliminate the black bars, you can try adjusting the

> image width using the monitor controls. Adjust, until the image width

> touches the edges of the viewable area of the monitor. You may also

> need to adjust the X offset from the edge of the screen, to get

> things nice and lined up. If you don't, some letters on text

> documents, may be disappearing off the edge of the screen.

>

> The monitor is then supposed to memorize those settings, and

> associate them with your choice of 1024x768 @ 85Hz. If you

> change one of those major settings, like switch to 1024x768

> @ 75Hz, you may have to again adjust screen width, height, X and Y

> offset, for best picture. The monitor will have some limit, as to

> the number of fixed or custom settings it can handle. With some

> luck, you won't have to adjust it any more, if you keep using the

> same settings. On my old monitor, sometimes two sets of

> settings would be very close to one another, and the wrong set of

> custom values would get called up. So the OSD system isn't

> perfect, and you sometimes get surprises. The monitor measures the

> horizontal and vertical sync rates, to figure out which set of settings to

> use.

> Paul
 
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