using Windows XP on other PCs

[itfreak]

I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new

system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to deregister

my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have to

install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the other

pc?

 

[DL]

There is no de-registration process.

You can only transfer winxp to another PC if its a retail version. If your

version of winxp was an oem version supplied with the old PC, it died with

that PC



"itfreak" wrote in message

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> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new

> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to

> deregister

> my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have

> to

> install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the

> other

> pc?

 

[Pegasus [MVP]]

"itfreak" wrote in message

news:879870D2-9E15-4BC1-B125-3C9A41F79CAB@microsoft.com...

> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new

> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to

> deregister

> my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have

> to

> install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the

> other

> pc?



You cannot "deregister" a Windows licence. If you have an OEM version then

you cannot transfer the licence to another PC. If it is a Retail version

then you will need to ring Microsoft at install time and explain that you're

transferring the licence. By the way - losing a CD is neither here nor

there. Your friend could just burn a copy of a similar version of a WinXP

CD. It is the product code that counts.

 

[Alias]

DL wrote:

> There is no de-registration process.

> You can only transfer winxp to another PC if its a retail version. If

> your version of winxp was an oem version supplied with the old PC, it

> died with that PC



That depends on what kind of OEM CD it is, branded or generic. With

generic, you *may* not transfer it to another PC but if 120 days have

passed since the last activation/hardware upgrade, it will install

activate and become "genuine" without any problems.

--

Alias

 

[Bruce Chambers]

itfreak wrote:

> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new

> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to deregister

> my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have to

> install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the other

> pc?





There is no "de-activation" or "de-registration" process, as such.



Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are not legitimately

transferable, of course), simply remove WinXP from the computer it is

currently on and then install it on the new computer. If it's been more

than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, the

you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem.

If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.



Here are the facts pertaining to activation:



Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/



Windows Product Activation (WPA)

http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm





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[Ken Blake, MVP]

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:21:01 -0700, itfreak

wrote:



> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new

> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to deregister

> my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have to

> install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the other

> pc?







Three points:



1. You are talking about registration, but what you really mean is

"activation." Registration is completely optional and is used by

Microsoft for marketing purposes. Activation, not registration, is

what is mandatory.



2. There is no such thing as deregistration, nor is there any such

thing as deactivation. All you need to do is take Windows XP off the

computer it's on (normally by formatting it, or installing another

operating system over the top of it).



3. If you copy of XP is a retail one, you can do what you want. But if

it's an OEM copy you can not. The biggest disadvantage of an OEM copy

is that its license ties it permanently to the first computer its

installed on. It can never be moved to another, not even if the

original one dies or is stolen. Moreover, many OEM copies are

BIOS-locked to the computer they came with and won't install on

another one.



--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

[Alias]

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 00:21:01 -0700, itfreak

> wrote:

>

>> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new

>> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to deregister

>> my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have to

>> install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the other

>> pc?

>

>

>

> Three points:

>

> 1. You are talking about registration, but what you really mean is

> "activation." Registration is completely optional and is used by

> Microsoft for marketing purposes. Activation, not registration, is

> what is mandatory.

>

> 2. There is no such thing as deregistration, nor is there any such

> thing as deactivation. All you need to do is take Windows XP off the

> computer it's on (normally by formatting it, or installing another

> operating system over the top of it).

>

> 3. If you copy of XP is a retail one, you can do what you want. But if

> it's an OEM copy you can not. The biggest disadvantage of an OEM copy

> is that its license ties it permanently to the first computer its

> installed on. It can never be moved to another, not even if the

> original one dies or is stolen. Moreover, many OEM copies are

> BIOS-locked to the computer they came with and won't install on

> another one.

>



Correction: MS doesn't want you to move a generic OEM XP to another

computer but you most certainly *can* if it's been over 120 days since

the last activation or hardware change. What you say about branded OEM

copies is true but not generic OEM copies.



--

Alias

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Would you like your friend to re-use your condoms, too?



itfreak wrote:

> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new

> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to

> deregister my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses.

> So

> do I have to install it first on my computer, deregister and then install

> it on the other pc?

 

[Doum]

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" écrivait

news:ubNtBrA2KHA.5212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:



????... I fail to see the similarities, bad example!





> Would you like your friend to re-use your condoms, too?

>

> itfreak wrote:

>> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install

>> a new system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have

>> to deregister my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to

>> viruses. So

>> do I have to install it first on my computer, deregister and then

>> install it on the other pc?

>

>

 

[HeyBub]

itfreak wrote:

> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install

> a new system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have

> to deregister my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to

> viruses. So do I have to install it first on my computer, deregister

> and then install it on the other pc?



Frankly, your CD may not even WORK on his computer.



Your friend should get a replacement copy of his own CD, either from the

computer manufacturer if an OEM version or from Microsoft if he bought XP at

retail.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

MYOB



Doum wrote:

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" écrivait

> news:ubNtBrA2KHA.5212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

>

> ????... I fail to see the similarities, bad example!

>

>

>> Would you like your friend to re-use your condoms, too?

>>

>> itfreak wrote:

>>> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install

>>> a new system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have

>>> to deregister my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to

>>> viruses. So

>>> do I have to install it first on my computer, deregister and then

>>> install it on the other pc?

 

[Sardine]

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

> Would you like your friend to re-use your condoms, too?

>

> itfreak wrote:

>> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a

>> new

>> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to

>> deregister my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to

>> viruses. So

>> do I have to install it first on my computer, deregister and then install

>> it on the other pc?

>



This is a rather distasteful and useless response that has nothing to do

with the original question. Did you get up on the wrong side of your bed?



Sardine

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

You can MYOB, too.



Sardine wrote:

> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>> Would you like your friend to re-use your condoms, too?

>>

>> itfreak wrote:

>>> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a

>>> new

>>> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to

>>> deregister my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to

>>> viruses. So

>>> do I have to install it first on my computer, deregister and then

>>> install

>>> it on the other pc?

>>

>

> This is a rather distasteful and useless response that has nothing to do

> with the original question. Did you get up on the wrong side of your bed?

>

> Sardine

 

[Bert Hyman]

In news:#6AaToN2KHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl "PA Bear [MS MVP]"

wrote:



> You can MYOB, too.



You might consider listening to your own advice.



Does the "V" in your (probably self-assigned) "MVP" designation stand

for "vile" or merely "vapid?"



--

Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

 

[LD55ZRA]

Bert Hyman wrote:

>



> Does the "V" in your (probably self-assigned) "MVP" designation stand

> for "vile" or merely "vapid?"



For years MVP stood for Microsoft Valuable Pig to signify most

obnoxious individual who is not wanted even by the ordinary Pig

Society Members.



Pig-Bear is a member of the Elite group of Pig Society, he is also

a member of the Geriatric Society of United States. So he does

fit your designation of the letter "V". We normally say that he

is fully qualified to be called a p e r v e r t.



hth





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[LD55ZRA]

Hey Freak,



When you ask a question like this here, then don't expect a

meaningful rational answer because you only get pigs here.



My advice to you is to give your CD to your friend even if it is

an OEM because from my experience of managing some 1000 systems on

my network, the chances are that it will work. OEM or no OEM CDs

are almost identical except OEMs tend to include some drivers

specific to their hardware and so their CDs are generally bigger

in size than the retail version but they all work on most

systems. This is due to the fact that even the hardware used by

branded OEMs tend to be the exact ones you can buy from your local

store.



I would ignore the nutters who have replied because they are

talking from that small hole on their bum! We call this s h i t.



itfreak wrote:

>

> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a new

> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to deregister

> my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I have to

> install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the other

> pc?



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[Michael]

"LD55ZRA" wrote in message

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>

>

> Bert Hyman wrote:

>>

>

>> Does the "V" in your (probably self-assigned) "MVP" designation stand

>> for "vile" or merely "vapid?"

>

> For years MVP stood for Microsoft Valuable Pig to signify most

> obnoxious individual who is not wanted even by the ordinary Pig

> Society Members.

>

> Pig-Bear is a member of the Elite group of Pig Society, he is also

> a member of the Geriatric Society of United States. So he does

> fit your designation of the letter "V". We normally say that he

> is fully qualified to be called a p e r v e r t.

>

> hth



Hey loser. Mommy let you out from under her dress this weekend?

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[Michael]

Manage 1000 systems on your network, my a$$! You have trouble managing what

your left hand is doing while your right hand plays with the mouse!



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If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."





"LD55ZRA" wrote in message

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> Hey Freak,

>

> When you ask a question like this here, then don't expect a

> meaningful rational answer because you only get pigs here.

>

> My advice to you is to give your CD to your friend even if it is

> an OEM because from my experience of managing some 1000 systems on

> my network, the chances are that it will work. OEM or no OEM CDs

> are almost identical except OEMs tend to include some drivers

> specific to their hardware and so their CDs are generally bigger

> in size than the retail version but they all work on most

> systems. This is due to the fact that even the hardware used by

> branded OEMs tend to be the exact ones you can buy from your local

> store.

>

> I would ignore the nutters who have replied because they are

> talking from that small hole on their bum! We call this s h i t.

>

> itfreak wrote:

>>

>> I bought Windows 7 and wanted to use my old Windows XP CD to install a

>> new

>> system at a friends computer. He lost his install CD. Do I have to

>> deregister

>> my licence? The problem is that my pc crashed due to viruses. So do I

>> have to

>> install it first on my computer, deregister and then install it on the

>> other

>> pc?

>

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> INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF

> BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LD55ZRA OR ITS

> ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH

> DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR

> LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL

> DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.

>

> Copyright LD55ZRA 2010.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Ewww!!!



Michael wrote:

> "LD55ZRA" wrote in message

> news:4BC0D44D.95F8A1BB@discussions.microsoft.com...

>>

>>

>> Bert Hyman wrote:

>>>

>>

>>> Does the "V" in your (probably self-assigned) "MVP" designation stand

>>> for "vile" or merely "vapid?"

>>

>> For years MVP stood for Microsoft Valuable Pig to signify most

>> obnoxious individual who is not wanted even by the ordinary Pig

>> Society Members.

>>

>> Pig-Bear is a member of the Elite group of Pig Society, he is also

>> a member of the Geriatric Society of United States. So he does

>> fit your designation of the letter "V". We normally say that he

>> is fully qualified to be called a p e r v e r t.

>>

>> hth

>

> Hey loser. Mommy let you out from under her dress this weekend?

 

[Michael]

He really has issues.



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If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."





"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

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> Ewww!!!

>

> Michael wrote:

>> "LD55ZRA" wrote in message

>> news:4BC0D44D.95F8A1BB@discussions.microsoft.com...

>>>

>>>

>>> Bert Hyman wrote:

>>>>

>>>

>>>> Does the "V" in your (probably self-assigned) "MVP" designation stand

>>>> for "vile" or merely "vapid?"

>>>

>>> For years MVP stood for Microsoft Valuable Pig to signify most

>>> obnoxious individual who is not wanted even by the ordinary Pig

>>> Society Members.

>>>

>>> Pig-Bear is a member of the Elite group of Pig Society, he is also

>>> a member of the Geriatric Society of United States. So he does

>>> fit your designation of the letter "V". We normally say that he

>>> is fully qualified to be called a p e r v e r t.

>>>

>>> hth

>>

>> Hey loser. Mommy let you out from under her dress this weekend?