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MrNeuby
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Problem, executive brief:
Please help, clicking and dragging with the touchpad is erratic. Suspected interference from click delay for multi-touch gesture.
Elaboration of conditions of the problem and suspicion:
When using the built-in touchpad and depressing to click either on the right or left side, it seems I need to wait some unspecified time before moving with a second finger (or even touching the pad with a second finger) to drag, otherwise the computer recognizes it as a multi-finger gesture and then it cancels the click. Often if the click does register I have already dragged the mouse several centimeters. This is significantly irritating and has caused many mis-click and drag events. I have even gone as far as to turn off all multi-finger gestures and this delay persists. Before forcing a delay on the user, can the developers please make sure no multi-finger click gestures (like 2,3,4 finger click) are in use, or in a more customizable form they could give a way to set the delay time between 0 and user preference. If the only multi-finger gestures are drag style (eg scrolling) then there should be no need for a delay to check if it was a multi-finger click since they are not in use. If the user clicks in this situation the click would be intentional and not possibly a multi-finger gestures.
Useful information:
1. The laptop is a VJZ131 from Viao
2. It has four mouse interfaces; touchpad, bluetooth mouse, touchscreen, MS surface pen 4. Three of the four of these work perfectly with no click and drag delay issues. Granted the surface pen and other ink devices have trouble selecting the window handles/edges to change window sizes but that is a whole other post.
Attempted fixes and results:
1. I uninstalled the other mouse interfaces, leaving only the touchpad. No effect.
2. I disabled tablet mode. No effect.
3. I uninstalled the driver and reinstalled it. No effect
4. To eliminate possible hardware issues. I have installed and tested the built-in touchpad in Ubuntu, and Remix-OS both of which correctly used click and drag, and multi-finger scrolling with the touchpad. Proof the clicking on the touchpad works properly.
5. The manufacture recommended drivers are the Microsoft mouse driver. These do not solve the issue. These are my suspected root of the problem.
6. I have installed the extend driver package from ELAN available for the international version of the laptop. This also had no effect on the problem.
7. I have scoured the registry for touchpad gesture settings. None found which were named anything remotely close to what I was looking for.
Logic train: Six cases presented below, and expected results for more intuitive mouse control.
1. if multi-click gesture ≠enabled, when one finger clicks the touchpad and then a second finger touches even within the delay period the click and drag event should be initiated.
2. if multi-click gesture ≠enabled, when one finger touches the touchpad and then a second finger clicks the click and drag event should be initiated.
3. if multi-click gesture ≠enabled, when one finger touches the touchpad and then a second finger touches even within the delay period the multi-finger drag event should be initiated.
4. if multi-click gesture = enabled, when two fingers are present at the initiation of the click on the touchpad the multi-finger click should be initiated.
5. if multi-click gesture = enabled, when one finger touches the touchpad and a second finger clicks within the delay period it should initiate a multi-finger click event.
6. if multi-click gesture = enabled, when one finger touches the touchpad and a second finger clicks after the delay period then a click and drag event should be initiated. (I suspect this is the only case being run right now.)
My plea:
Please give me some hope.
1. If this is some issue tell not related to my suspicions about a delay tell me how to fix it.
2. If it is delay related and an option to kill the delay already exists in windows 10 already please tell me where to find it.
3. If not tell me pretty lies that it will be built-in to the generic MS touchpad drivers or somewhere else for the next developer preview build.
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Please help, clicking and dragging with the touchpad is erratic. Suspected interference from click delay for multi-touch gesture.
Elaboration of conditions of the problem and suspicion:
When using the built-in touchpad and depressing to click either on the right or left side, it seems I need to wait some unspecified time before moving with a second finger (or even touching the pad with a second finger) to drag, otherwise the computer recognizes it as a multi-finger gesture and then it cancels the click. Often if the click does register I have already dragged the mouse several centimeters. This is significantly irritating and has caused many mis-click and drag events. I have even gone as far as to turn off all multi-finger gestures and this delay persists. Before forcing a delay on the user, can the developers please make sure no multi-finger click gestures (like 2,3,4 finger click) are in use, or in a more customizable form they could give a way to set the delay time between 0 and user preference. If the only multi-finger gestures are drag style (eg scrolling) then there should be no need for a delay to check if it was a multi-finger click since they are not in use. If the user clicks in this situation the click would be intentional and not possibly a multi-finger gestures.
Useful information:
1. The laptop is a VJZ131 from Viao
2. It has four mouse interfaces; touchpad, bluetooth mouse, touchscreen, MS surface pen 4. Three of the four of these work perfectly with no click and drag delay issues. Granted the surface pen and other ink devices have trouble selecting the window handles/edges to change window sizes but that is a whole other post.
Attempted fixes and results:
1. I uninstalled the other mouse interfaces, leaving only the touchpad. No effect.
2. I disabled tablet mode. No effect.
3. I uninstalled the driver and reinstalled it. No effect
4. To eliminate possible hardware issues. I have installed and tested the built-in touchpad in Ubuntu, and Remix-OS both of which correctly used click and drag, and multi-finger scrolling with the touchpad. Proof the clicking on the touchpad works properly.
5. The manufacture recommended drivers are the Microsoft mouse driver. These do not solve the issue. These are my suspected root of the problem.
6. I have installed the extend driver package from ELAN available for the international version of the laptop. This also had no effect on the problem.
7. I have scoured the registry for touchpad gesture settings. None found which were named anything remotely close to what I was looking for.
Logic train: Six cases presented below, and expected results for more intuitive mouse control.
1. if multi-click gesture ≠enabled, when one finger clicks the touchpad and then a second finger touches even within the delay period the click and drag event should be initiated.
2. if multi-click gesture ≠enabled, when one finger touches the touchpad and then a second finger clicks the click and drag event should be initiated.
3. if multi-click gesture ≠enabled, when one finger touches the touchpad and then a second finger touches even within the delay period the multi-finger drag event should be initiated.
4. if multi-click gesture = enabled, when two fingers are present at the initiation of the click on the touchpad the multi-finger click should be initiated.
5. if multi-click gesture = enabled, when one finger touches the touchpad and a second finger clicks within the delay period it should initiate a multi-finger click event.
6. if multi-click gesture = enabled, when one finger touches the touchpad and a second finger clicks after the delay period then a click and drag event should be initiated. (I suspect this is the only case being run right now.)
My plea:
Please give me some hope.
1. If this is some issue tell not related to my suspicions about a delay tell me how to fix it.
2. If it is delay related and an option to kill the delay already exists in windows 10 already please tell me where to find it.
3. If not tell me pretty lies that it will be built-in to the generic MS touchpad drivers or somewhere else for the next developer preview build.
Continue reading...