Thank You

[shellyfDELETE@hotmail.com]

Thanks to all who have helped me over the years with Win98, XP, and

now 7. Much appreciated.

And, I hope that I assisted via a few of my posts.

Microsoft forums are a step backward compared to this means of

communication, in my humble opinion.

ciao

 

[VanguardLH]

shellyf wrote:



> Microsoft forums are a step backward compared to this means of

> communication, in my humble opinion.



Did you even ask your NSP (EasyNews) if they will be dropping the

microsoft.* newsgroups? They probably arent. Giganews isn't dropping

the microsoft.* newsgroups. Google Groups probably won't, either. My

NSP (Albasani) won't and I'm told that Eternal-September won't. So if

your current NSP drops the microsoft.* newsgroups, go find an NNTP

server that still does (some are free).



Microsoft decided to leave Usenet. Microsoft is not Usenet.



What is Usenet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroups

http://www.masonicinfo.com/newsgroups.htm

http://www.mcfedries.com/Ramblings/usenet-primer.asp

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Bye-bye, see ya (and ju.c)



shellyfDELETE@hotmail.com wrote:

> Thanks to all who have helped me over the years with Win98, XP, and

> now 7. Much appreciated.

> And, I hope that I assisted via a few of my posts.

> Microsoft forums are a step backward compared to this means of

> communication, in my humble opinion.

> ciao

 

[Jo-Anne]

"VanguardLH" wrote in message

news:hu1q95$ns7$1@news.albasani.net...

> shellyf wrote:

>

>> Microsoft forums are a step backward compared to this means of

>> communication, in my humble opinion.

>

> Did you even ask your NSP (EasyNews) if they will be dropping the

> microsoft.* newsgroups? They probably arent. Giganews isn't dropping

> the microsoft.* newsgroups. Google Groups probably won't, either. My

> NSP (Albasani) won't and I'm told that Eternal-September won't. So if

> your current NSP drops the microsoft.* newsgroups, go find an NNTP

> server that still does (some are free).

>

> Microsoft decided to leave Usenet. Microsoft is not Usenet.

>

> What is Usenet:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroups

> http://www.masonicinfo.com/newsgroups.htm

> http://www.mcfedries.com/Ramblings/usenet-primer.asp



How do determine who or what your NSP is? Is this a question for my ISP?



Thank you!



Jo-Anne

 

[VanguardLH]

Jo-Anne wrote:



> How do determine who or what your NSP is? Is this a question for my ISP?



NSP = Newsgroups Service Provider



Microsoft operates their free NNTP server which you are already using

with Outlook Express. So find another NNTP server to which you can

connect Outlook Express (unless you also decide to use a better

newsreader). There are lots of NSPs (paid and free), like Giganews,

Albasani, Eternal-September, and more. Go ask the folks in the

alt.free.newsservers group. Alas, the Microsoft NNTP server to which

you connect to submit your post here only carries the microsoft.*

newsgroups. You'll have to use a different NNTP server to get at the

non-microsoft newsgroups. Microsoft's server has always had a very

limited number of newsgroups (i.e., just their own).



To get started with a free NSP, go visit www.albasani.net or

www.eternal-september.org to signup for a free posting account.

Instructions on how to configure your newsreader regarding settings for

their server are on their web site.

 

[Jo-Anne]

"VanguardLH" wrote in message

news:hu2g5v$nmb$1@news.albasani.net...

> Jo-Anne wrote:

>

>> How do determine who or what your NSP is? Is this a question for my ISP?

>

> NSP = Newsgroups Service Provider

>

> Microsoft operates their free NNTP server which you are already using

> with Outlook Express. So find another NNTP server to which you can

> connect Outlook Express (unless you also decide to use a better

> newsreader). There are lots of NSPs (paid and free), like Giganews,

> Albasani, Eternal-September, and more. Go ask the folks in the

> alt.free.newsservers group. Alas, the Microsoft NNTP server to which

> you connect to submit your post here only carries the microsoft.*

> newsgroups. You'll have to use a different NNTP server to get at the

> non-microsoft newsgroups. Microsoft's server has always had a very

> limited number of newsgroups (i.e., just their own).

>

> To get started with a free NSP, go visit www.albasani.net or

> www.eternal-september.org to signup for a free posting account.

> Instructions on how to configure your newsreader regarding settings for

> their server are on their web site.



Thank you, Vanguard! I must have signed up at some point with another NSP

because I also have a couple Corel newsgroups for WordPerfect. Maybe I

signed up with Corel directly?



Jo-Anne

 

[VanguardLH]

Jo-Anne wrote:



> Thank you, Vanguard! I must have signed up at some point with another NSP

> because I also have a couple Corel newsgroups for WordPerfect. Maybe I

> signed up with Corel directly?



There are lots of "private" NSPs; i.e., they carry only their own

newsgroups and do not peer to anyone one. GRC (Steve Gibson of Spinrite

fame), Microsoft privatenews.microsoft.com, and the mozilla.* newsgroups

(many NSPs do not peer the Mozilla groups so you connect to Mozilla's

NNTP server to get at them) are examples of private newsgroups. There

is no mandate that forces anyone operating an NNTP server to peer it to

anyone else's NNTP server. In fact, many companies use their own

internal-use only NNTP server for communications amongst their

employees.

 

[Jo-Anne]

"VanguardLH" wrote in message

news:hu589d$vvl$1@news.albasani.net...

> Jo-Anne wrote:

>

>> Thank you, Vanguard! I must have signed up at some point with another NSP

>> because I also have a couple Corel newsgroups for WordPerfect. Maybe I

>> signed up with Corel directly?

>

> There are lots of "private" NSPs; i.e., they carry only their own

> newsgroups and do not peer to anyone one. GRC (Steve Gibson of Spinrite

> fame), Microsoft privatenews.microsoft.com, and the mozilla.* newsgroups

> (many NSPs do not peer the Mozilla groups so you connect to Mozilla's

> NNTP server to get at them) are examples of private newsgroups. There

> is no mandate that forces anyone operating an NNTP server to peer it to

> anyone else's NNTP server. In fact, many companies use their own

> internal-use only NNTP server for communications amongst their

> employees.



Thank you again, Vanguard! I wish all the forums I belong to were available

as newsgroups instead. I'd follow them more seriously and learn more.



Jo-Anne