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I tried to run a system file check. It said to insert the XP SP3

disc. My computer came with something older (I don't remember which

SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago). Is there a way to run a SFC

without the SP3 disc?

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No you need to create a slipstreamed version of Windows XP disk to get

the right CD for the purpose. I suggest read this article:







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Jan Philips wrote:

>

> I tried to run a system file check. It said to insert the XP SP3

> disc. My computer came with something older (I don't remember which

> SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago). Is there a way to run a SFC

> without the SP3 disc?

> --

> Replace you know what by j to email
 
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:13:24 +0000, EN59CVH

wrote:



>No you need to create a slipstreamed version of Windows XP disk to get

>the right CD for the purpose. I suggest read this article:

>

>




OK, and I've done all of the updates too.

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SFC doesnt check the files of a service pack,its checking the OS files that

are not in any SP.To run SFC,simply install a retail version of XP,exit the

menu page,SFC runs auto...If youre having problems,then the installation

directory might be at fault,xp has it as D:,the cdrom with xp cd in it must

match,or be changed in regedit...



"Jan Philips" wrote:



> I tried to run a system file check. It said to insert the XP SP3

> disc. My computer came with something older (I don't remember which

> SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago). Is there a way to run a SFC

> without the SP3 disc?

> --

> Replace you know what by j to email

> .

>
 
Andrew E. wrote:

> SFC doesnt check the files of a service pack,its checking the OS files that

> are not in any SP.To run SFC,simply install a retail version of XP,exit the

> menu page,SFC runs auto...If youre having problems,then the installation

> directory might be at fault,xp has it as D:,the cdrom with xp cd in it must

> match,or be changed in regedit...

>




Must you always deliberately post the incorrect information?



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Bruce Chambers wrote:

> Andrew E. wrote:

>> SFC doesnt check the files of a service pack,its checking the OS

>> files that are not in any SP.To run SFC,simply install a retail

>> version of XP,exit the menu page,SFC runs auto...If youre having

>> problems,then the installation directory might be at fault,xp has

>> it as D:,the cdrom with xp cd in it must match,or be changed in

>> regedit...


>

> Must you always deliberately post the incorrect information?




Yes, it's in his contract. ;-)
 
When does the contract finally end ?



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"Daave" wrote in message

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> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>> Andrew E. wrote:

>>> SFC doesnt check the files of a service pack,its checking the OS

>>> files that are not in any SP.To run SFC,simply install a retail

>>> version of XP,exit the menu page,SFC runs auto...If youre having

>>> problems,then the installation directory might be at fault,xp has

>>> it as D:,the cdrom with xp cd in it must match,or be changed in

>>> regedit...


>>

>> Must you always deliberately post the incorrect information?


>

> Yes, it's in his contract. ;-)

>
 
On Mar 6, 8:03 pm, Jan Philips

wrote:

> I tried to run a system file check.  It said to insert the XP SP3

> disc.  My computer came with something older (I don't remember which

> SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago).  Is there a way to run a SFC

> without the SP3 disc?

> --

> Replace you know what by j to email




Sure, you can run it the system file checker.



Click Start, Run and in the box enter:



sfc /scnnow



Unless your system has been compromised by malicious software or the

built in Windows File Protection function is broken SFC should find

nothing to do. It will give you a good feeling if it runs without

finding anything. If it finds something to do, you have now or have

had some other problem.



If you have SP3 installed and only posses an SP1 or SP2 installation

CD, running sfc /scannow will complain - a lot. The messages may not

be errors, but just informational messages. It will check 3498 files

that Windows considers important.



This is because it is trying to match and compare files and the

installed SP does not match up with what is on the installation CD.



You can read about why and perhaps make an adjustment to get it to

work by reading this article. It depends on your system:



http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html



To prevent this, you can use your old XP installation CD to make a new

installation CD with SP3 included (slipstream) and then run sfc /

scannow using the up to date CD as a reference. This slipstreamed CD

is a good thing to have anyway in case you need to fix something some

other day.



Thinking that running sfc /scannow will work right out of the chute is

an expectation that generally exceeds reality unless you are prepared

in advance with an installation CD that matches your currently

installed service pack (usually you have to make such a CD).



It most certainly should run without a hitch when all the pieces are

in place and result in a warm fuzzy feeling, but I have personally

never seen it resolve any problem that was not caused by something

else and will never even recommend it, but that could just be me.



When it comes to shoot in the dark troubleshooting, the advice to "run

sfc /scannow" is rarely preceded by the "before you run sfc /

scannow..." advice which generates more confusion, concern and

questions shortly afterwards.



Please do try it though and see how you get on. It won't hurt

anything and you should want it to work. If it doesn't work, we can

try to make it work to make you feel better. It makes me feel better

to see it find nothing to do and not complain.



When sfc /scannow runs successfully, you will see a starting and

complete message in the Event Log. It can take a long time to run and

slow your system down - a lot. When it starts and stops succesfully

you will see events like this in the Event log:



Event Type: Information

Event Source: Windows File Protection

Event Category: None

Event ID: 64016

Windows File Protection file scan was started.



Event Type: Information

Event Source: Windows File Protection

Event Category: None

Event ID: 64017

Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.



Note that sfc /scannow will not run in Safe Mode (try it) and will

generate this error if you do try it:



Windows File Protection could not initiate a scan of protected system

files.

The specific error code is 0x000006ba [The RPC server is

unavailable.].



You cannot start the RPC Server in Safe Mode either.



If you are having some particular issue of suspicious files, describe

what the issue is and we can help with that.
 
Jose



It should read sfc /scannow not sfc /scnnow



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"Jose" wrote in message

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On Mar 6, 8:03 pm, Jan Philips

wrote:

> I tried to run a system file check. It said to insert the XP SP3

> disc. My computer came with something older (I don't remember which

> SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago). Is there a way to run a SFC

> without the SP3 disc?

> --

> Replace you know what by j to email




Sure, you can run it the system file checker.



Click Start, Run and in the box enter:



sfc /scnnow



Unless your system has been compromised by malicious software or the

built in Windows File Protection function is broken SFC should find

nothing to do. It will give you a good feeling if it runs without

finding anything. If it finds something to do, you have now or have

had some other problem.



If you have SP3 installed and only posses an SP1 or SP2 installation

CD, running sfc /scannow will complain - a lot. The messages may not

be errors, but just informational messages. It will check 3498 files

that Windows considers important.



This is because it is trying to match and compare files and the

installed SP does not match up with what is on the installation CD.



You can read about why and perhaps make an adjustment to get it to

work by reading this article. It depends on your system:



http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html



To prevent this, you can use your old XP installation CD to make a new

installation CD with SP3 included (slipstream) and then run sfc /

scannow using the up to date CD as a reference. This slipstreamed CD

is a good thing to have anyway in case you need to fix something some

other day.



Thinking that running sfc /scannow will work right out of the chute is

an expectation that generally exceeds reality unless you are prepared

in advance with an installation CD that matches your currently

installed service pack (usually you have to make such a CD).



It most certainly should run without a hitch when all the pieces are

in place and result in a warm fuzzy feeling, but I have personally

never seen it resolve any problem that was not caused by something

else and will never even recommend it, but that could just be me.



When it comes to shoot in the dark troubleshooting, the advice to "run

sfc /scannow" is rarely preceded by the "before you run sfc /

scannow..." advice which generates more confusion, concern and

questions shortly afterwards.



Please do try it though and see how you get on. It won't hurt

anything and you should want it to work. If it doesn't work, we can

try to make it work to make you feel better. It makes me feel better

to see it find nothing to do and not complain.



When sfc /scannow runs successfully, you will see a starting and

complete message in the Event Log. It can take a long time to run and

slow your system down - a lot. When it starts and stops succesfully

you will see events like this in the Event log:



Event Type: Information

Event Source: Windows File Protection

Event Category: None

Event ID: 64016

Windows File Protection file scan was started.



Event Type: Information

Event Source: Windows File Protection

Event Category: None

Event ID: 64017

Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.



Note that sfc /scannow will not run in Safe Mode (try it) and will

generate this error if you do try it:



Windows File Protection could not initiate a scan of protected system

files.

The specific error code is 0x000006ba [The RPC server is

unavailable.].



You cannot start the RPC Server in Safe Mode either.



If you are having some particular issue of suspicious files, describe

what the issue is and we can help with that.
 
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:29:00 -0500, "Peter Foldes"

wrote:



> When does the contract finally end ?








Alas, Andrew E's regular posting of misinformation is very likely not

done deliberately. It's mostly just that he knows next to nothing, and

posts misinformation that he thinks is correct.







> "Daave" wrote in message

> news:OGoyAGkvKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > Bruce Chambers wrote:

> >> Andrew E. wrote:

> >>> SFC doesnt check the files of a service pack,its checking the OS

> >>> files that are not in any SP.To run SFC,simply install a retail

> >>> version of XP,exit the menu page,SFC runs auto...If youre having

> >>> problems,then the installation directory might be at fault,xp has

> >>> it as D:,the cdrom with xp cd in it must match,or be changed in

> >>> regedit...

> >>

> >> Must you always deliberately post the incorrect information?


> >

> > Yes, it's in his contract. ;-)

> >




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"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message

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> Alas, Andrew E's regular posting of misinformation is very likely not

> done deliberately. It's mostly just that he knows next to nothing, and

> posts misinformation that he thinks is correct.




So you can see all this from a distance! Is it because of your experience

of misinformation, lies and rubbish over the years? Did you not want to get

a proper training so that you can be an asset to the society in which you

live?



Senility must be affecting you in your advanced age!
 
I fear it's open-ended. :-(



Peter Foldes wrote:

> When does the contract finally end ?

>

>

> "Daave" wrote in message

> news:OGoyAGkvKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>>> Andrew E. wrote:

>>>> SFC doesnt check the files of a service pack,its checking the OS

>>>> files that are not in any SP.To run SFC,simply install a retail

>>>> version of XP,exit the menu page,SFC runs auto...If youre having

>>>> problems,then the installation directory might be at fault,xp has

>>>> it as D:,the cdrom with xp cd in it must match,or be changed in

>>>> regedit...

>>>

>>> Must you always deliberately post the incorrect information?


>>

>> Yes, it's in his contract. ;-)
 
On Mar 7, 8:03 pm, "Peter Foldes" wrote:

> Jose

>

> It should read sfc /scannow not sfc /scnnow

>

> --

> Peter

>

> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others

> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

>

> "Jose" wrote in message

>

> news:38250427-9eff-4b7b-b9cc-0e89aeb44da0@g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...

> On Mar 6, 8:03 pm, Jan Philips

> wrote:

>

> > I tried to run a system file check. It said to insert the XP SP3

> > disc. My computer came with something older (I don't remember which

> > SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago). Is there a way to run a SFC

> > without the SP3 disc?

> > --

> > Replace you know what by j to email


>

> Sure, you can run it the system file checker.

>

> Click Start, Run and in the box enter:

>

> sfc /scnnow

>

> Unless your system has been compromised by malicious software or the

> built in Windows File Protection function is broken SFC should find

> nothing to do.  It will give you a good feeling if it runs without

> finding anything.  If it finds something to do, you have now or have

> had some other problem.

>

> If you have SP3 installed and only posses an SP1 or SP2 installation

> CD, running sfc /scannow will complain - a lot.  The messages may not

> be errors, but just informational messages.  It will check 3498 files

> that Windows considers important.

>

> This is because it is trying to match and compare files and the

> installed SP does not match up with what is on the installation CD.

>

> You can read about why and perhaps make an adjustment to get it to

> work by reading this article.  It depends on your system:

>

> http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

>

> To prevent this, you can use your old XP installation CD to make a new

> installation CD with SP3 included (slipstream) and then run sfc /

> scannow using the up to date CD as a reference.  This slipstreamed CD

> is a good thing to have anyway in case you need to fix something some

> other day.

>

> Thinking that running sfc /scannow will work right out of the chute is

> an expectation that generally exceeds reality unless you are prepared

> in advance with an installation CD that matches your currently

> installed service pack (usually you have to make such a CD).

>

> It most certainly should run without a hitch when all the pieces are

> in place and result in a warm fuzzy feeling, but I have personally

> never seen it resolve any problem that was not caused by something

> else and will never even recommend it, but that could just be me.

>

> When it comes to shoot in the dark troubleshooting, the advice to "run

> sfc /scannow" is rarely preceded by the "before you run sfc /

> scannow..." advice which generates more confusion, concern and

> questions shortly afterwards.

>

> Please do try it though and see how you get on.  It won't hurt

> anything and you should want it to work.  If it doesn't work, we can

> try to make it work to make you feel better.  It makes me feel better

> to see it find nothing to do and not complain.

>

> When sfc /scannow runs successfully, you will see a starting and

> complete message in the Event Log.  It can take a long time to run and

> slow your system down - a lot.  When it starts and stops succesfully

> you will see events like this in the Event log:

>

> Event Type: Information

> Event Source: Windows File Protection

> Event Category: None

> Event ID: 64016

> Windows File Protection file scan was started.

>

> Event Type: Information

> Event Source: Windows File Protection

> Event Category: None

> Event ID: 64017

> Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.

>

> Note that sfc /scannow will not run in Safe Mode (try it) and will

> generate this error if you do try it:

>

> Windows File Protection could not initiate a scan of protected system

> files.

> The specific error code is 0x000006ba [The RPC server is

> unavailable.].

>

> You cannot start the RPC Server in Safe Mode either.

>

> If you are having some particular issue of suspicious files, describe

> what the issue is and we can help with that.




Typo! Should be to run the system file checker, in the Start, Run

box enter:



sfc /scannow
 
I agree with your point but what has happened to me is my anti virus software

F-Secure has damaged some files. In fact, I would suggest that a good many

things that are report here and in other palces are due to anti-virsus

software erroneously deleting certian files.



Anyway, I would like to run the SFC program but my Windoiws version is an

OEM version so I don't have the original CDs only a recovery copy so I can't

make a slipstrem version of SP3 (at least not that I know of).



Any suggestions to get the correct files for SFC to repair them?



"Jose" wrote:



> On Mar 6, 8:03 pm, Jan Philips

> wrote:

> > I tried to run a system file check. It said to insert the XP SP3

> > disc. My computer came with something older (I don't remember which

> > SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago). Is there a way to run a SFC

> > without the SP3 disc?

> > --

> > Replace you know what by j to email


>

> Sure, you can run it the system file checker.

>

> Click Start, Run and in the box enter:

>

> sfc /scnnow

>

> Unless your system has been compromised by malicious software or the

> built in Windows File Protection function is broken SFC should find

> nothing to do. It will give you a good feeling if it runs without

> finding anything. If it finds something to do, you have now or have

> had some other problem.

>

> If you have SP3 installed and only posses an SP1 or SP2 installation

> CD, running sfc /scannow will complain - a lot. The messages may not

> be errors, but just informational messages. It will check 3498 files

> that Windows considers important.

>

> This is because it is trying to match and compare files and the

> installed SP does not match up with what is on the installation CD.

>

> You can read about why and perhaps make an adjustment to get it to

> work by reading this article. It depends on your system:

>

> http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

>

> To prevent this, you can use your old XP installation CD to make a new

> installation CD with SP3 included (slipstream) and then run sfc /

> scannow using the up to date CD as a reference. This slipstreamed CD

> is a good thing to have anyway in case you need to fix something some

> other day.

>

> Thinking that running sfc /scannow will work right out of the chute is

> an expectation that generally exceeds reality unless you are prepared

> in advance with an installation CD that matches your currently

> installed service pack (usually you have to make such a CD).

>

> It most certainly should run without a hitch when all the pieces are

> in place and result in a warm fuzzy feeling, but I have personally

> never seen it resolve any problem that was not caused by something

> else and will never even recommend it, but that could just be me.

>

> When it comes to shoot in the dark troubleshooting, the advice to "run

> sfc /scannow" is rarely preceded by the "before you run sfc /

> scannow..." advice which generates more confusion, concern and

> questions shortly afterwards.

>

> Please do try it though and see how you get on. It won't hurt

> anything and you should want it to work. If it doesn't work, we can

> try to make it work to make you feel better. It makes me feel better

> to see it find nothing to do and not complain.

>

> When sfc /scannow runs successfully, you will see a starting and

> complete message in the Event Log. It can take a long time to run and

> slow your system down - a lot. When it starts and stops succesfully

> you will see events like this in the Event log:

>

> Event Type: Information

> Event Source: Windows File Protection

> Event Category: None

> Event ID: 64016

> Windows File Protection file scan was started.

>

> Event Type: Information

> Event Source: Windows File Protection

> Event Category: None

> Event ID: 64017

> Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.

>

> Note that sfc /scannow will not run in Safe Mode (try it) and will

> generate this error if you do try it:

>

> Windows File Protection could not initiate a scan of protected system

> files.

> The specific error code is 0x000006ba [The RPC server is

> unavailable.].

>

> You cannot start the RPC Server in Safe Mode either.

>

> If you are having some particular issue of suspicious files, describe

> what the issue is and we can help with that.

>

> .

>
 
On Jun 4, 2:36 pm, Railhound

wrote:

> I agree with your point but what has happened to me is my anti virus software

>  F-Secure has damaged some files. In fact, I would suggest that a good many

> things that are report here and in other palces are due to anti-virsus

> software erroneously deleting certian files.

>

> Anyway, I would like to run the SFC program but my Windoiws version is an

> OEM version so I don't have the original CDs only a recovery copy so I can't

> make a slipstrem version of SP3 (at least not that I know of).

>

> Any suggestions to get the correct files for SFC to repair them?

>

>

>

> "Jose" wrote:

> > On Mar 6, 8:03 pm, Jan Philips

> > wrote:

> > > I tried to run a system file check.  It said to insert the XP SP3

> > > disc.  My computer came with something older (I don't remember which

> > > SP, but it was about 2-1/2 years ago).  Is there a way to run a SFC

> > > without the SP3 disc?

> > > --

> > > Replace you know what by j to email


>

> > Sure, you can run it the system file checker.


>

> > Click Start, Run and in the box enter:


>

> > sfc /scnnow


>

> > Unless your system has been compromised by malicious software or the

> > built in Windows File Protection function is broken SFC should find

> > nothing to do.  It will give you a good feeling if it runs without

> > finding anything.  If it finds something to do, you have now or have

> > had some other problem.


>

> > If you have SP3 installed and only posses an SP1 or SP2 installation

> > CD, running sfc /scannow will complain - a lot.  The messages may not

> > be errors, but just informational messages.  It will check 3498 files

> > that Windows considers important.


>

> > This is because it is trying to match and compare files and the

> > installed SP does not match up with what is on the installation CD.


>

> > You can read about why and perhaps make an adjustment to get it to

> > work by reading this article.  It depends on your system:


>

> >http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html


>

> > To prevent this, you can use your old XP installation CD to make a new

> > installation CD with SP3 included (slipstream) and then run sfc /

> > scannow using the up to date CD as a reference.  This slipstreamed CD

> > is a good thing to have anyway in case you need to fix something some

> > other day.


>

> > Thinking that running sfc /scannow will work right out of the chute is

> > an expectation that generally exceeds reality unless you are prepared

> > in advance with an installation CD that matches your currently

> > installed service pack (usually you have to make such a CD).


>

> > It most certainly should run without a hitch when all the pieces are

> > in place and result in a warm fuzzy feeling, but I have personally

> > never seen it resolve any problem that was not caused by something

> > else and will never even recommend it, but that could just be me.


>

> > When it comes to shoot in the dark troubleshooting, the advice to "run

> > sfc /scannow" is rarely preceded by the "before you run sfc /

> > scannow..." advice which generates more confusion, concern and

> > questions shortly afterwards.


>

> > Please do try it though and see how you get on.  It won't hurt

> > anything and you should want it to work.  If it doesn't work, we can

> > try to make it work to make you feel better.  It makes me feel better

> > to see it find nothing to do and not complain.


>

> > When sfc /scannow runs successfully, you will see a starting and

> > complete message in the Event Log.  It can take a long time to run and

> > slow your system down - a lot.  When it starts and stops succesfully

> > you will see events like this in the Event log:


>

> > Event Type:        Information

> > Event Source:      Windows File Protection

> > Event Category:    None

> > Event ID:  64016

> > Windows File Protection file scan was started.


>

> > Event Type:        Information

> > Event Source:      Windows File Protection

> > Event Category:    None

> > Event ID:  64017

> > Windows File Protection file scan completed successfully.


>

> > Note that sfc /scannow will not run in Safe Mode (try it) and will

> > generate this error if you do try it:


>

> > Windows File Protection could not initiate a scan of protected system

> > files.

> > The specific error code is 0x000006ba [The RPC server is

> > unavailable.].


>

> > You cannot start the RPC Server in Safe Mode either.


>

> > If you are having some particular issue of suspicious files, describe

> > what the issue is and we can help with that.


>

> > .




Some AV softwares seem to quarantine/delete XP files. I will just say

it must be by mistake...



So far, when I have encountered those situations I have always been

able to fix it and not using sfc /scannow (which should never find

anything to do if your system is not otherwise afflicted). Usually

the system will not even boot afterwards so that makes these things

even more fun!



If your installed SP does not match your installation CD or you only

have some system recovery CD, you are likely to get quickly frustrated

with sfc /scannow. Even if it "works" I have never seen it resolve

any XP problem, but it feels good when it runs successfully.



It is also frustrating to see it suggested as something "to try" when

the necessary parts and pieces to get it to run are not included in

the suggestion as a requirement for it do behave. This results in

more Q&A back and forth and the problem continues to fester.



What is the nature of your system affliction that you think sfc /

scannow will remedy?
 
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