Reinstall XP Home, keeping desktop layout?

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I have one machine with XP Home SP3 that is acting strangely --

sometimes reads FAT(32) media, sometimes won't; sometimes takes for ever

to boot; sometimes takes many attempts before it will shut down; etc. I

think it's time to reinstall; I'll try a repair install first (I have an

SP2 CD), but if that doesn't work I'll start over.



All I have on C: is the OS itself and apps that refused to install to

D:, which is my Apps drive. All my downloaded stuff is on E:, backups on X:.



If I create an "archive" using Files and Settings Transfer, can I select

what gets copied back? I assume that transferring all the old registry

settings would not be smart. Can I save the Desktop layout?



Perce
 
On 02/22/10 04:10 pm, I wrote:



> I have one machine with XP Home SP3 that is acting strangely --

> sometimes reads FAT(32) media, sometimes won't; sometimes takes for ever

> to boot; sometimes takes many attempts before it will shut down; etc. I

> think it's time to reinstall; I'll try a repair install first (I have an

> SP2 CD), but if that doesn't work I'll start over.

>

> All I have on C: is the OS itself and apps that refused to install to

> D:, which is my Apps drive. All my downloaded stuff is on E:, backups on

> X:.

>

> If I create an "archive" using Files and Settings Transfer, can I select

> what gets copied back? I assume that transferring all the old registry

> settings would not be smart. Can I save the Desktop layout?






Forgot to mention: restoring from recent restore points doesn't solve

problems; attempts to restore from older restore points don't work.



Perce
 
Percival P. Cassidy wrote:



> All I have on C: is the OS itself and apps that refused to install to

> D:, which is my Apps drive. All my downloaded stuff is on E:, backups

> on X:.




In the event that you wind up performing a Clean Install, make sure C:

is at least 50GB. Also, it is important to have the OS and all the

applications on C:. Almost all of your programs will have preferences,

associated registry keys, etc. on the C: partition, so you might as well

keep it all together. And should you wish to create images of C: for

disaster recovery purposes (highly recommended), you will be all set.

:-)



D: can be for *all* your data. You may have a "downloaded stuff" folder

on it if you wish.



I would not have a backup partition on the same drive (if the hard drive

is toast, you will have also lost your backup!). An external hard drive

should be used for this purpose.
 
On 02/22/10 05:08 pm, Daave wrote:



>> All I have on C: is the OS itself and apps that refused to install to

>> D:, which is my Apps drive. All my downloaded stuff is on E:, backups

>> on X:.


>

> In the event that you wind up performing a Clean Install, make sure C:

> is at least 50GB. Also, it is important to have the OS and all the

> applications on C:. Almost all of your programs will have preferences,

> associated registry keys, etc. on the C: partition, so you might as well

> keep it all together. And should you wish to create images of C: for

> disaster recovery purposes (highly recommended), you will be all set.

> :-)




I've been caught too many times by programs that save data in the

program directory. If that's on C: and I have to reinstall the OS --

including reformatting C: -- I've often lost data as well. In one case I

installed a new version of a program without uninstalling the old one;

unbeknown to me the new version was using the data file originally

created by the earlier version; then when I uninstalled the old version

the data file disappeared too.



Even now I have programs that -- even though installed on D: -- insist

on storing configuration and data files in C:\Documents and

Settings\\Application Data\\ rather than in

the application's own directory (or a subdirectory thereof) or in the

folder I have defined as "My Documents" (not on C:).



> D: can be for *all* your data. You may have a "downloaded stuff" folder

> on it if you wish.

>

> I would not have a backup partition on the same drive (if the hard drive

> is toast, you will have also lost your backup!). An external hard drive

> should be used for this purpose.




X: is a separate hard disk.



Perce
 
Percival P. Cassidy wrote:



>> I would not have a backup partition on the same drive (if the hard drive

>> is toast, you will have also lost your backup!). An external hard drive

>> should be used for this purpose.


>

> X: is a separate hard disk.

>

> Perce




External I trust.



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C
 
Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

> On 02/22/10 05:08 pm, Daave wrote:

>

>>> All I have on C: is the OS itself and apps that refused to install

>>> to D:, which is my Apps drive. All my downloaded stuff is on E:,

>>> backups on X:.


>>

>> In the event that you wind up performing a Clean Install, make sure

>> C: is at least 50GB. Also, it is important to have the OS and all the

>> applications on C:. Almost all of your programs will have

>> preferences, associated registry keys, etc. on the C: partition, so

>> you might as well keep it all together. And should you wish to

>> create images of C: for disaster recovery purposes (highly

>> recommended), you will be all set. :-)


>

> I've been caught too many times by programs that save data in the

> program directory. If that's on C: and I have to reinstall the OS --

> including reformatting C: -- I've often lost data as well.




I shall repeat:



And should you wish to create images of C: for disaster recovery

purposes (highly recommended), you will be all set. :-)



This means you would have a little time machine of sorts. Nothing will

ever be lost again (okay, 99.9% chance). And you will be able to restore

the exact configuration of everything on your partition(s).



> In one

> case I installed a new version of a program without uninstalling the

> old one; unbeknown to me the new version was using the data file

> originally created by the earlier version; then when I uninstalled

> the old version the data file disappeared too.

>

> Even now I have programs that -- even though installed on D: -- insist

> on storing configuration and data files in C:\Documents and

> Settings\\Application Data\\ rather than

> in the application's own directory (or a subdirectory thereof) or in

> the folder I have defined as "My Documents" (not on C:).




And that is why I suggested you make sure *all* the programs are

installed to C:, rather than to two partitions. If you install a program

to D: but Windows insists on placing its Application Data on C:, you

wind up with a confusing mess. Simply use C: for the OS and all the

apps. Easy as pie.



Also, My Documents (no matter which partition it points to) should be

used for data only -- data that stands alone; not the stuff associated

with the OS and its updates and installed programs or their associated

"Application Data." I mean all your documents, spreadsheets, e-mails,

photos, videos, etc. Actually, *installation files* for programs may

reside in a folder in My Documents as well.



>> D: can be for *all* your data. You may have a "downloaded stuff"

>> folder on it if you wish.

>>

>> I would not have a backup partition on the same drive (if the hard

>> drive is toast, you will have also lost your backup!). An external

>> hard drive should be used for this purpose.


>

> X: is a separate hard disk.




This is a good. Better, of course, is if this separate hard disk is

external to the PC.
 
Under a different useraccount, such as Administrator, take a backup of your

user-profile under c:\Documents and Settings to X. It may also be worth

copying the All Users profile. Ensure that hidden files are copied, the most

important being NTUSER.DAT. (This gives you the HKCU part of the registry)



After the rebuild, you need to create an identical user, log on once to

create the profile, log off again, then copy the files back (as

Administrator) to a same-named folder.



This will not necessarily ensure that programs on D: will still work, but it

will at least give you your desktop settings, etc. Those programs which don't

work will need reinstalling 'over the top' of the existing copy to reinstate

their HKLM registry settings.



The FSTW is notoriously unreliable, BTW. I've seen people lose the lot

trying to do things that way. ntbackup to a .bkf file mostly works, and is

one possible approach.



"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:



> I have one machine with XP Home SP3 that is acting strangely --

> sometimes reads FAT(32) media, sometimes won't; sometimes takes for ever

> to boot; sometimes takes many attempts before it will shut down; etc. I

> think it's time to reinstall; I'll try a repair install first (I have an

> SP2 CD), but if that doesn't work I'll start over.

>

> All I have on C: is the OS itself and apps that refused to install to

> D:, which is my Apps drive. All my downloaded stuff is on E:, backups on X:.

>

> If I create an "archive" using Files and Settings Transfer, can I select

> what gets copied back? I assume that transferring all the old registry

> settings would not be smart. Can I save the Desktop layout?

>

> Perce

> .

>
 
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