per-user initialisation

[Rob]

Whenever a user first logs in to a Windows system, or when the

internet explorer has been updated to a new version since the

previous login, a small program runs that performs some initialisation

of the user settings for internet explorer. A small window is shown

in the top left corner of the screen while this happens. This lasts

only a few seconds and you don't see it again until the next upgrade.



Does anyone know which program is doing this and how it can be started

manually?



We are running a Citrix server with only published applications, no

desktop for the users. When a user only runs published applications,

and has never logged on to a desktop, the abovementioned initialisation

has not been performed, and internet explorer does not work correctly

in that session. This is most apparent when using help in the

application where the help is a compiled html file. The user will

not be able to navigate the help.



I hope there is some program we can run from the logon script to

initialize the internet explorer just like it happens when a logon

to a desktop is done.

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

"Rob" wrote in message

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> Whenever a user first logs in to a Windows system, or when the

> internet explorer has been updated to a new version since the

> previous login, a small program runs that performs some initialisation

> of the user settings for internet explorer. A small window is shown

> in the top left corner of the screen while this happens. This lasts

> only a few seconds and you don't see it again until the next upgrade.

>

> Does anyone know which program is doing this and how it can be started

> manually?

>

> We are running a Citrix server with only published applications, no

> desktop for the users. When a user only runs published applications,

> and has never logged on to a desktop, the abovementioned initialisation

> has not been performed, and internet explorer does not work correctly

> in that session. This is most apparent when using help in the

> application where the help is a compiled html file. The user will

> not be able to navigate the help.

>

> I hope there is some program we can run from the logon script to

> initialize the internet explorer just like it happens when a logon

> to a desktop is done.





If this is reproducible I would run ProcMon to capture it.

However, there are various reasons that compiled help won't render, so I

would wonder if you already have a program activated somehow which is used

to fix those. E.g. perhaps you have an IEAK procedure which does this?

Etc.

 

[Rob]

Robert Aldwinckle wrote:

> "Rob" wrote in message

> news:slrnhmt2mh.lpc.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl...

>> Whenever a user first logs in to a Windows system, or when the

>> internet explorer has been updated to a new version since the

>> previous login, a small program runs that performs some initialisation

>> of the user settings for internet explorer. A small window is shown

>> in the top left corner of the screen while this happens. This lasts

>> only a few seconds and you don't see it again until the next upgrade.

>>

>> Does anyone know which program is doing this and how it can be started

>> manually?

>>

>> We are running a Citrix server with only published applications, no

>> desktop for the users. When a user only runs published applications,

>> and has never logged on to a desktop, the abovementioned initialisation

>> has not been performed, and internet explorer does not work correctly

>> in that session. This is most apparent when using help in the

>> application where the help is a compiled html file. The user will

>> not be able to navigate the help.

>>

>> I hope there is some program we can run from the logon script to

>> initialize the internet explorer just like it happens when a logon

>> to a desktop is done.

>

>

> If this is reproducible I would run ProcMon to capture it.

> However, there are various reasons that compiled help won't render, so I

> would wonder if you already have a program activated somehow which is used

> to fix those. E.g. perhaps you have an IEAK procedure which does this?

> Etc.



Situation is like this:

Citrix server with Published Applications

Roaming profiles

User starts Published Application

Compiled HTML help does not work

User exits application, starts a Published Desktop

(small window shows that Internet Explorer initialisation is being done)

No other activity done on Published Desktop, not even starting IE.

User logs off Published Desktop

User starts Published Application

Compiled HTML help now works



Apparently the initialisation done when logging in on a Published

Desktop somehow fixes the internet explorer so that help works.

The settings are saved in the user's profile.



What I like to know is how I can run some program from a logon

script (after testing for some registry key) that will run the same

initialisation as a logon to a Published Desktop is doing.

 

[Rob]

Rob wrote:

> Situation is like this:

> Citrix server with Published Applications

> Roaming profiles

> User starts Published Application

> Compiled HTML help does not work

> User exits application, starts a Published Desktop

> (small window shows that Internet Explorer initialisation is being done)

> No other activity done on Published Desktop, not even starting IE.

> User logs off Published Desktop

> User starts Published Application

> Compiled HTML help now works

>

> Apparently the initialisation done when logging in on a Published

> Desktop somehow fixes the internet explorer so that help works.

> The settings are saved in the user's profile.

>

> What I like to know is how I can run some program from a logon

> script (after testing for some registry key) that will run the same

> initialisation as a logon to a Published Desktop is doing.



Nobody knows how to fix the above problem or knows an answer to the

question?

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Perhaps everyone's waiting for you to disclose the IE version and full

Windows version(s) of the computer(s) in question?



Rob wrote:

> Rob wrote:

>> Situation is like this:

>> Citrix server with Published Applications

>> Roaming profiles

>> User starts Published Application

>> Compiled HTML help does not work

>> User exits application, starts a Published Desktop

>> (small window shows that Internet Explorer initialisation is being done)

>> No other activity done on Published Desktop, not even starting IE.

>> User logs off Published Desktop

>> User starts Published Application

>> Compiled HTML help now works

>>

>> Apparently the initialisation done when logging in on a Published

>> Desktop somehow fixes the internet explorer so that help works.

>> The settings are saved in the user's profile.

>>

>> What I like to know is how I can run some program from a logon

>> script (after testing for some registry key) that will run the same

>> initialisation as a logon to a Published Desktop is doing.

>

> Nobody knows how to fix the above problem or knows an answer to the

> question?

 

[Rob]

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

> Perhaps everyone's waiting for you to disclose the IE version and full

> Windows version(s) of the computer(s) in question?



Windows version is 2003 enterprise edition.



IE version does not seem to make a difference. Currently is IE8.



However, this initialisation program was already used with IE6 and

maybe even earlier.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/disable-ie8-tour-welcome-screen-runonce-all-users/



Rob wrote:

> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>> Perhaps everyone's waiting for you to disclose the IE version and full

>> Windows version(s) of the computer(s) in question?

>

> Windows version is 2003 enterprise edition.

>

> IE version does not seem to make a difference. Currently is IE8.

>

> However, this initialisation program was already used with IE6 and

> maybe even earlier.

 

[Rob]

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

> http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/disable-ie8-tour-welcome-screen-runonce-all-users/



This is not what I mean...

Those welcome screens were already disabled using group policy, but that

does not make any difference.

 

[Patrick Palczewski]

"Rob" wrote in message

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> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>> http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/disable-ie8-tour-welcome-screen-runonce-all-users/

>

> This is not what I mean...

> Those welcome screens were already disabled using group policy, but that

> does not make any difference.



Have you contacted Citrix on help with the script? I'm sure they can help

you.





--

Patrick P.

www.boydcomputersvcs.com

 

[Rob]

Patrick Palczewski wrote:

>

>

> "Rob" wrote in message

> news:slrnhne5oa.o0a.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl...

>> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

>>> http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/disable-ie8-tour-welcome-screen-runonce-all-users/

>>

>> This is not what I mean...

>> Those welcome screens were already disabled using group policy, but that

>> does not make any difference.

>

> Have you contacted Citrix on help with the script? I'm sure they can help

> you.



The system has been installed by consultants and they have not been able

to solve this problem. That is why I now take it up myself.



It amazes me how hard it is to find an initialisation program that is

running on every Windows sytem for years.



Everyone logging in to a Windows system on a fresh account or after

updating Internet Explorer sees this program running. But how is it

started??? Is this hardcoded in Explorer.exe? Is this some registry

entry? (I cannot find it in RUN, RUNONCE etc)

That is a question that must have an answer independent of Terminal

Server or Citrix.

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

"Rob" wrote in message

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> Patrick Palczewski wrote:



> It amazes me how hard it is to find an initialisation program that is

> running on every Windows sytem for years.

>

> Everyone logging in to a Windows system on a fresh account or after

> updating Internet Explorer sees this program running. But how is it

> started??? Is this hardcoded in Explorer.exe? Is this some registry

> entry? (I cannot find it in RUN, RUNONCE etc)

> That is a question that must have an answer independent of Terminal

> Server or Citrix.





Have you tried capturing a repro case with ProcMon yet? ; }





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[Rob]

Robert Aldwinckle wrote:

> "Rob" wrote in message

> news:slrnhnv8n9.om7.nomail@xs8.xs4all.nl...

>> Patrick Palczewski wrote:

>

>> It amazes me how hard it is to find an initialisation program that is

>> running on every Windows sytem for years.

>>

>> Everyone logging in to a Windows system on a fresh account or after

>> updating Internet Explorer sees this program running. But how is it

>> started??? Is this hardcoded in Explorer.exe? Is this some registry

>> entry? (I cannot find it in RUN, RUNONCE etc)

>> That is a question that must have an answer independent of Terminal

>> Server or Citrix.

>

>

> Have you tried capturing a repro case with ProcMon yet? ; }



I have used it to trace programs I start myself, but I would not know

how to invoke it on the login/initialisation process. Maybe you have

a hint?