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does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
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Farhan wrote:
> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>
>
> Farhan
>
>
I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer. So the
answer is no.
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C
> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>
>
> Farhan
>
>
I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer. So the
answer is no.
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
Guest
Yes, .NET Framework 1.0 and usually .NET Framework 1.1 SP1.
How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been applied
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/kb00318785.aspx
Note: Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on 10 July 2010. After that date,
computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical
security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows Update
website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.
Trying to install TurboTax or other Intuit Tax Prep software? See...
Aaron Stebner's WebLog: TurboTax 2009 can fail to install because it thinks
the .NET Framework is not installed, even when it is
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2010/01/26/9953883.aspx
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~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
Farhan wrote:
> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been applied
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/kb00318785.aspx
Note: Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on 10 July 2010. After that date,
computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical
security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows Update
website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.
Trying to install TurboTax or other Intuit Tax Prep software? See...
Aaron Stebner's WebLog: TurboTax 2009 can fail to install because it thinks
the .NET Framework is not installed, even when it is
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2010/01/26/9953883.aspx
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
Farhan wrote:
> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
Guest
C wrote:
> Farhan wrote:
>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>
> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer. So the
> answer is no.
Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
> Farhan wrote:
>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>
> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer. So the
> answer is no.
Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
C
C
Guest
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> C wrote:
>> Farhan wrote:
>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>
>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer. So the
>> answer is no.
>
> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework folder?
I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
--
C
> C wrote:
>> Farhan wrote:
>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>
>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer. So the
>> answer is no.
>
> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework folder?
I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
--
C
P
PA Bear [MS MVP]
Guest
C wrote:
>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>
>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer. So the
>>> answer is no.
>>
>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework > folder?
>
> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>
>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer. So the
>>> answer is no.
>>
>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework > folder?
>
> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
C
C
Guest
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> C wrote:
>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>
>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer. So the
>>>> answer is no.
>>>
>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework >> folder?
>>
>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>
> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under C:\WINDOWS
--
C
> C wrote:
>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>
>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer. So the
>>>> answer is no.
>>>
>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework >> folder?
>>
>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>
> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under C:\WINDOWS
--
C
P
PA Bear [MS MVP]
Guest
C wrote:
>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer. So
>>>>> the
>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>
>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework >>> folder?
>>>
>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>
>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>
> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under C:\WINDOWS
Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now button:
Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
OT: Why isn't SP3 installed by now? Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on
10 July 2010. After that date, computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be
offered any further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not
work, and Windows Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is
installed.
>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer. So
>>>>> the
>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>
>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework >>> folder?
>>>
>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>
>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>
> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under C:\WINDOWS
Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now button:
Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
OT: Why isn't SP3 installed by now? Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on
10 July 2010. After that date, computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be
offered any further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will not
work, and Windows Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is
installed.
C
C
Guest
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>
> C wrote:
>>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
>>>>>> So the
>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework >>>> folder?
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>>
>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>
>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under C:\WINDOWS
>
> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
No.
> OT: Why isn't SP3 installed by now?
It is.
> Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends
> on 10 July 2010. After that date, computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT
> be offered any further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will
> not work, and Windows Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is
> installed.
I know ;-)
--
C
>
> C wrote:
>>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
>>>>>> So the
>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework >>>> folder?
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>>
>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>
>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under C:\WINDOWS
>
> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
No.
> OT: Why isn't SP3 installed by now?
It is.
> Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends
> on 10 July 2010. After that date, computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT
> be offered any further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will
> not work, and Windows Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is
> installed.
I know ;-)
--
C
M
mm
Guest
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:39:54 +0100, C
wrote:
>
>
>> OT: Why isn't SP3 installed by now?
>
>It is.
>
>> Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends
>> on 10 July 2010. After that date, computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT
>> be offered any further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will
>> not work, and Windows Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is
>> installed.
>
>I know ;-)
>
>--
>C
His last two questions should have gone to the OP. OP?
wrote:
>
>
>> OT: Why isn't SP3 installed by now?
>
>It is.
>
>> Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends
>> on 10 July 2010. After that date, computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT
>> be offered any further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will
>> not work, and Windows Update website will not be accessible until SP3 is
>> installed.
>
>I know ;-)
>
>--
>C
His last two questions should have gone to the OP. OP?
P
PA Bear [MS MVP]
Guest
C wrote:
>>>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
>>>>>>> So the
>>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
>>>>>> >>>>> folder?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>>>
>>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>>
>>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
>>> C:\WINDOWS
>>
>> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
>> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
>> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
>
> No...
Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
installed.
>>>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
>>>>>>> So the
>>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
>>>>>> >>>>> folder?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>>>
>>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>>
>>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
>>> C:\WINDOWS
>>
>> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
>> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
>> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
>
> No...
Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
installed.
C
C
Guest
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>
> C wrote:
>>>>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
>>>>>>>> So the
>>>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
>>>>>>> >>>>>> folder?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>>>>
>>>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>>>
>>>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>>>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>>>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
>>>> C:\WINDOWS
>>>
>>> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
>>> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
>>> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
>>
>> No...
>
> Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
> installed.
Weird because it's been working great since I installed it some six
months ago. It's XP Pro if that helps.
--
C
>
> C wrote:
>>>>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
>>>>>>>> So the
>>>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
>>>>>>> >>>>>> folder?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>>>>
>>>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>>>
>>>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>>>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>>>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
>>>> C:\WINDOWS
>>>
>>> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
>>> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
>>> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
>>
>> No...
>
> Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
> installed.
Weird because it's been working great since I installed it some six
months ago. It's XP Pro if that helps.
--
C
I
Incognitus
Guest
"C" wrote in message
news:hkkukb$a5u$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>>
>> C wrote:
>>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
Neither do I.
>>>>>>> So the
>>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
>>>>>> >>>>> folder?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
Neither do I.
>>>>
>>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>>
>>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
>>> C:\WINDOWS
I don't have a microsoft.net folder anywhere.
>>
>> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
>> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
>> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
>
> No.
Neither do I.
..NET in any form is missing here as evident by the absence of "NET
Framework" in the registry.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v]
DWord Value Name and Value Data
SP = > OT: Why isn't SP3 installed by now?[/color]
>
> It is.
>
>> Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on 10 July 2010. After that date,
>> computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical
>> security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows Update
>> website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.
>
> I know ;-)[/color]
news:hkkukb$a5u$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>>
>> C wrote:
>>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
Neither do I.
>>>>>>> So the
>>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
>>>>>> >>>>> folder?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
Neither do I.
>>>>
>>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>>
>>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
>>> C:\WINDOWS
I don't have a microsoft.net folder anywhere.
>>
>> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
>> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
>> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
>
> No.
Neither do I.
..NET in any form is missing here as evident by the absence of "NET
Framework" in the registry.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\NET Framework Setup\NDP\v]
DWord Value Name and Value Data
SP = > OT: Why isn't SP3 installed by now?[/color]
>
> It is.
>
>> Extended Support for WinXP SP2 ends on 10 July 2010. After that date,
>> computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical
>> security updates, Automatic Updates will not work, and Windows Update
>> website will not be accessible until SP3 is installed.
>
> I know ;-)[/color]
I
Incognitus
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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
news:ejPEVs7pKHA.3748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>C wrote:
>>>>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
C didn't write that, Farhan did.
>>>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
>>>>>>>> So the
>>>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
>>>>>>> >>>>>> folder?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>>>>
>>>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>>>
>>>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>>>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>>>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
>>>> C:\WINDOWS
>>>
>>> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
>>> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
>>> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
>>
>> No...
>
> Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
> installed.
Mine seems to work just fine apparently without any .NET Framework of any
version.
news:ejPEVs7pKHA.3748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>C wrote:
>>>>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
C didn't write that, Farhan did.
>>>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
>>>>>>>> So the
>>>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
>>>>>>> >>>>>> folder?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>>>>
>>>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>>>
>>>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>>>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>>>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
>>>> C:\WINDOWS
>>>
>>> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
>>> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
>>> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
>>
>> No...
>
> Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
> installed.
Mine seems to work just fine apparently without any .NET Framework of any
version.
M
mm
Guest
On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:01:10 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
wrote:
>
>C wrote:
>>>>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
>>>>>>>> So the
>>>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
>>>>>>> >>>>>> folder?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>>>>
>>>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>>>
>>>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>>>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>>>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
>>>> C:\WINDOWS
>>>
>>> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
>>> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
>>> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
>>
>> No...
>
>Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
>installed.
Well, I had XP SP3 and it was working fine, then after 3 weeks it
wasnt' working fine and I had to uncheck Shell and UPS services.
It was working fine then and I don't know if I had anything with .net
in it. but after I installed a used but newer (ATI 7000, with real
3D) video card, then it insisted I install .net Framework. It didn't
say upgrade, and it took a relatively long time, so I don't think I
had it before. Without it I could still get some resolutions on my
monitor, but either I coudlnt't get all or I couldn't run the ATI
software that does other things to the monitor output.
Maybe computers that come with later model video cards won't work
without .net framework.
wrote:
>
>C wrote:
>>>>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
>>>>>>>> So the
>>>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
>>>>>>> >>>>>> folder?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>>>>
>>>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>>>
>>>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>>>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>>>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
>>>> C:\WINDOWS
>>>
>>> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
>>> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
>>> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
>>
>> No...
>
>Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
>installed.
Well, I had XP SP3 and it was working fine, then after 3 weeks it
wasnt' working fine and I had to uncheck Shell and UPS services.
It was working fine then and I don't know if I had anything with .net
in it. but after I installed a used but newer (ATI 7000, with real
3D) video card, then it insisted I install .net Framework. It didn't
say upgrade, and it took a relatively long time, so I don't think I
had it before. Without it I could still get some resolutions on my
monitor, but either I coudlnt't get all or I couldn't run the ATI
software that does other things to the monitor output.
Maybe computers that come with later model video cards won't work
without .net framework.
C
C
Guest
mm wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:01:10 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> wrote:
>
>> C wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
>>>>>>>>> So the
>>>>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> folder?
>>>>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>>>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>>>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>>>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>>>>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>>>>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
>>>>> C:\WINDOWS
>>>> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
>>>> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
>>>> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
>>> No...
>> Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
>> installed.
>
> Well, I had XP SP3 and it was working fine, then after 3 weeks it
> wasnt' working fine and I had to uncheck Shell and UPS services.
>
> It was working fine then and I don't know if I had anything with .net
> in it. but after I installed a used but newer (ATI 7000, with real
> 3D) video card, then it insisted I install .net Framework. It didn't
> say upgrade, and it took a relatively long time, so I don't think I
> had it before. Without it I could still get some resolutions on my
> monitor, but either I coudlnt't get all or I couldn't run the ATI
> software that does other things to the monitor output.
>
> Maybe computers that come with later model video cards won't work
> without .net framework.
nVidia cards do. ATI has used .NET for ages. I don't use ATI.
--
C
> On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 01:01:10 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> wrote:
>
>> C wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> does .net framework included in win xp sp2?
>>>>>>>>> I have SP3 and no .NET *anything* is installed on that computer.
>>>>>>>>> So the
>>>>>>>>> answer is no.
>>>>>>>> Really? What do you find in C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> folder?
>>>>>>> I don't have a directory called Microsoft.NET under C:\WINDOWS
>>>>>> Enable 'Show Hidden Files and Folders' then look again:
>>>>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
>>>>> Show hidden files and folders was already enabled. I do have a
>>>>> microsoft.net folder under Program Files with a folder called Primary
>>>>> Interop Assemblies with two .DLL files in it but nothing under
>>>>> C:\WINDOWS
>>>> Open a Windows Explorer Search window [WinKey+F] | In the topmost search
>>>> box, enter "v1.0.3705" (without the quotes) then click on Search Now
>>>> button: Is a folder named "v1.0.3705" listed in the results?
>>> No...
>> Your WinXP box wouldn't work if you didn't have .NET Framework 1.0
>> installed.
>
> Well, I had XP SP3 and it was working fine, then after 3 weeks it
> wasnt' working fine and I had to uncheck Shell and UPS services.
>
> It was working fine then and I don't know if I had anything with .net
> in it. but after I installed a used but newer (ATI 7000, with real
> 3D) video card, then it insisted I install .net Framework. It didn't
> say upgrade, and it took a relatively long time, so I don't think I
> had it before. Without it I could still get some resolutions on my
> monitor, but either I coudlnt't get all or I couldn't run the ATI
> software that does other things to the monitor output.
>
> Maybe computers that come with later model video cards won't work
> without .net framework.
nVidia cards do. ATI has used .NET for ages. I don't use ATI.
--
C
P
Paul
Guest
mm wrote:
> Well, I had XP SP3 and it was working fine, then after 3 weeks it
> wasnt' working fine and I had to uncheck Shell and UPS services.
>
> It was working fine then and I don't know if I had anything with .net
> in it. but after I installed a used but newer (ATI 7000, with real
> 3D) video card, then it insisted I install .net Framework. It didn't
> say upgrade, and it took a relatively long time, so I don't think I
> had it before. Without it I could still get some resolutions on my
> monitor, but either I coudlnt't get all or I couldn't run the ATI
> software that does other things to the monitor output.
>
> Maybe computers that come with later model video cards won't work
> without .net framework.
You could have avoided that, if you wished.
ATI splits their install into "driver" and "control panel". The
control panel software needs .NET 2.0 . If you don't attempt
to install the control panel, but just install the driver, then
you don't need to install .NET 2.0.
ATI offers downloads in either a combined driver+control_panel package,
or you can download just the driver or just the control panel.
I'm currently running my computer, without the ATI CCC control panel,
and just have the driver installed. It means I cannot access advanced
features via CCC, but I can play 3D games just fine.
Paul
> Well, I had XP SP3 and it was working fine, then after 3 weeks it
> wasnt' working fine and I had to uncheck Shell and UPS services.
>
> It was working fine then and I don't know if I had anything with .net
> in it. but after I installed a used but newer (ATI 7000, with real
> 3D) video card, then it insisted I install .net Framework. It didn't
> say upgrade, and it took a relatively long time, so I don't think I
> had it before. Without it I could still get some resolutions on my
> monitor, but either I coudlnt't get all or I couldn't run the ATI
> software that does other things to the monitor output.
>
> Maybe computers that come with later model video cards won't work
> without .net framework.
You could have avoided that, if you wished.
ATI splits their install into "driver" and "control panel". The
control panel software needs .NET 2.0 . If you don't attempt
to install the control panel, but just install the driver, then
you don't need to install .NET 2.0.
ATI offers downloads in either a combined driver+control_panel package,
or you can download just the driver or just the control panel.
I'm currently running my computer, without the ATI CCC control panel,
and just have the driver installed. It means I cannot access advanced
features via CCC, but I can play 3D games just fine.
Paul
M
mm
Guest
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:54:07 -0500, Paul wrote:
>mm wrote:
>
>> Well, I had XP SP3 and it was working fine, then after 3 weeks it
>> wasnt' working fine and I had to uncheck Shell and UPS services.
>>
>> It was working fine then and I don't know if I had anything with .net
>> in it. but after I installed a used but newer (ATI 7000, with real
>> 3D) video card, then it insisted I install .net Framework. It didn't
>> say upgrade, and it took a relatively long time, so I don't think I
>> had it before. Without it I could still get some resolutions on my
>> monitor, but either I coudlnt't get all or I couldn't run the ATI
>> software that does other things to the monitor output.
>>
>> Maybe computers that come with later model video cards won't work
>> without .net framework.
>
>You could have avoided that, if you wished.
>
>ATI splits their install into "driver" and "control panel". The
>control panel software needs .NET 2.0 . If you don't attempt
>to install the control panel, but just install the driver, then
>you don't need to install .NET 2.0.
>
>ATI offers downloads in either a combined driver+control_panel package,
>or you can download just the driver or just the control panel.
I sort of thought that was the case. I especially thought about it
when the install was running. grin. I took comfort in the fact that
it was free, so I got something free! Whoopee.
>I'm currently running my computer, without the ATI CCC control panel,
>and just have the driver installed. It means I cannot access advanced
>features via CCC, but I can play 3D games just fine.
I first wanted a newer card to use Google Earth, but just Thursday I
started using it to output to my TVs too.
Do you think I could have done that without the ati control panel?
Serious question.
When I first plugged the tv in, the picture was blank and I had to go
into the control panel and set TV Output On. I"m guessing that means
I needed the control panel, but maybe not.
> Paul
>mm wrote:
>
>> Well, I had XP SP3 and it was working fine, then after 3 weeks it
>> wasnt' working fine and I had to uncheck Shell and UPS services.
>>
>> It was working fine then and I don't know if I had anything with .net
>> in it. but after I installed a used but newer (ATI 7000, with real
>> 3D) video card, then it insisted I install .net Framework. It didn't
>> say upgrade, and it took a relatively long time, so I don't think I
>> had it before. Without it I could still get some resolutions on my
>> monitor, but either I coudlnt't get all or I couldn't run the ATI
>> software that does other things to the monitor output.
>>
>> Maybe computers that come with later model video cards won't work
>> without .net framework.
>
>You could have avoided that, if you wished.
>
>ATI splits their install into "driver" and "control panel". The
>control panel software needs .NET 2.0 . If you don't attempt
>to install the control panel, but just install the driver, then
>you don't need to install .NET 2.0.
>
>ATI offers downloads in either a combined driver+control_panel package,
>or you can download just the driver or just the control panel.
I sort of thought that was the case. I especially thought about it
when the install was running. grin. I took comfort in the fact that
it was free, so I got something free! Whoopee.
>I'm currently running my computer, without the ATI CCC control panel,
>and just have the driver installed. It means I cannot access advanced
>features via CCC, but I can play 3D games just fine.
I first wanted a newer card to use Google Earth, but just Thursday I
started using it to output to my TVs too.
Do you think I could have done that without the ati control panel?
Serious question.
When I first plugged the tv in, the picture was blank and I had to go
into the control panel and set TV Output On. I"m guessing that means
I needed the control panel, but maybe not.
> Paul
P
Paul
Guest
mm wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:54:07 -0500, Paul wrote:
>
>> mm wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I had XP SP3 and it was working fine, then after 3 weeks it
>>> wasnt' working fine and I had to uncheck Shell and UPS services.
>>>
>>> It was working fine then and I don't know if I had anything with .net
>>> in it. but after I installed a used but newer (ATI 7000, with real
>>> 3D) video card, then it insisted I install .net Framework. It didn't
>>> say upgrade, and it took a relatively long time, so I don't think I
>>> had it before. Without it I could still get some resolutions on my
>>> monitor, but either I coudlnt't get all or I couldn't run the ATI
>>> software that does other things to the monitor output.
>>>
>>> Maybe computers that come with later model video cards won't work
>>> without .net framework.
>> You could have avoided that, if you wished.
>>
>> ATI splits their install into "driver" and "control panel". The
>> control panel software needs .NET 2.0 . If you don't attempt
>> to install the control panel, but just install the driver, then
>> you don't need to install .NET 2.0.
>>
>> ATI offers downloads in either a combined driver+control_panel package,
>> or you can download just the driver or just the control panel.
>
> I sort of thought that was the case. I especially thought about it
> when the install was running. grin. I took comfort in the fact that
> it was free, so I got something free! Whoopee.
>
>> I'm currently running my computer, without the ATI CCC control panel,
>> and just have the driver installed. It means I cannot access advanced
>> features via CCC, but I can play 3D games just fine.
>
> I first wanted a newer card to use Google Earth, but just Thursday I
> started using it to output to my TVs too.
>
> Do you think I could have done that without the ati control panel?
> Serious question.
>
> When I first plugged the tv in, the picture was blank and I had to go
> into the control panel and set TV Output On. I"m guessing that means
> I needed the control panel, but maybe not.
>
>> Paul
>
For anything non-trivial, you should have the control panel installed.
And that would include doing things like setting up multiple monitors.
I just change OSes, as my Win2K boot disk has CCC installed and
I can test multiple monitor configurations there if I need to.
One reason for not using CCC, is it wastes RAM when it loads. That
is my philosophical objection to using it. Software which is not
being used, should not burn up RAM for nothing. My attitude might have
been different, if a lightweight process sat there waiting for me
to click the CCC icon, and then loaded the software at that
point in time. That would mean most of the time, I'd get to keep
my RAM for more useful things.
I only own one good monitor, and the TV output on my video card
sucks so bad, I have no wish to use that again. So at least while
I'm running WinXP, the single monitor and no CCC works out fine.
(Why do I run Win2K ? That is my "dirty" OS, where I test cruft, like
200MB commercial software packages. I try to keep WinXP a little cleaner,
by not installing the junk I use on the Win2K partition. If the Win2K
partition falls over, there isn't much to lose.)
Paul
> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:54:07 -0500, Paul wrote:
>
>> mm wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I had XP SP3 and it was working fine, then after 3 weeks it
>>> wasnt' working fine and I had to uncheck Shell and UPS services.
>>>
>>> It was working fine then and I don't know if I had anything with .net
>>> in it. but after I installed a used but newer (ATI 7000, with real
>>> 3D) video card, then it insisted I install .net Framework. It didn't
>>> say upgrade, and it took a relatively long time, so I don't think I
>>> had it before. Without it I could still get some resolutions on my
>>> monitor, but either I coudlnt't get all or I couldn't run the ATI
>>> software that does other things to the monitor output.
>>>
>>> Maybe computers that come with later model video cards won't work
>>> without .net framework.
>> You could have avoided that, if you wished.
>>
>> ATI splits their install into "driver" and "control panel". The
>> control panel software needs .NET 2.0 . If you don't attempt
>> to install the control panel, but just install the driver, then
>> you don't need to install .NET 2.0.
>>
>> ATI offers downloads in either a combined driver+control_panel package,
>> or you can download just the driver or just the control panel.
>
> I sort of thought that was the case. I especially thought about it
> when the install was running. grin. I took comfort in the fact that
> it was free, so I got something free! Whoopee.
>
>> I'm currently running my computer, without the ATI CCC control panel,
>> and just have the driver installed. It means I cannot access advanced
>> features via CCC, but I can play 3D games just fine.
>
> I first wanted a newer card to use Google Earth, but just Thursday I
> started using it to output to my TVs too.
>
> Do you think I could have done that without the ati control panel?
> Serious question.
>
> When I first plugged the tv in, the picture was blank and I had to go
> into the control panel and set TV Output On. I"m guessing that means
> I needed the control panel, but maybe not.
>
>> Paul
>
For anything non-trivial, you should have the control panel installed.
And that would include doing things like setting up multiple monitors.
I just change OSes, as my Win2K boot disk has CCC installed and
I can test multiple monitor configurations there if I need to.
One reason for not using CCC, is it wastes RAM when it loads. That
is my philosophical objection to using it. Software which is not
being used, should not burn up RAM for nothing. My attitude might have
been different, if a lightweight process sat there waiting for me
to click the CCC icon, and then loaded the software at that
point in time. That would mean most of the time, I'd get to keep
my RAM for more useful things.
I only own one good monitor, and the TV output on my video card
sucks so bad, I have no wish to use that again. So at least while
I'm running WinXP, the single monitor and no CCC works out fine.
(Why do I run Win2K ? That is my "dirty" OS, where I test cruft, like
200MB commercial software packages. I try to keep WinXP a little cleaner,
by not installing the junk I use on the Win2K partition. If the Win2K
partition falls over, there isn't much to lose.)
Paul
K
Ken Blake, MVP
Guest
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:41:43 -0500, Paul wrote:
> One reason for not using CCC, is it wastes RAM when it loads. That
> is my philosophical objection to using it. Software which is not
> being used, should not burn up RAM for nothing.
I don't know anything about CCC (not even what it is), but the
statement "Software which is not being used, should not burn up RAM
for nothing" is generally incorrect.
Yes, a program which is started uses RAM, but if other programs need
RAM, and the program in question is not used, the memory that it uses
very quickly gets paged out and has no impact on performance at all.
What gets paged out is the least-recently-used memory.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> One reason for not using CCC, is it wastes RAM when it loads. That
> is my philosophical objection to using it. Software which is not
> being used, should not burn up RAM for nothing.
I don't know anything about CCC (not even what it is), but the
statement "Software which is not being used, should not burn up RAM
for nothing" is generally incorrect.
Yes, a program which is started uses RAM, but if other programs need
RAM, and the program in question is not used, the memory that it uses
very quickly gets paged out and has no impact on performance at all.
What gets paged out is the least-recently-used memory.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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