Modifying a pages Refresh Rate

[WMB]

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for Virus/Malware

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secondary memory cache, P4X266-8233, Enclosure Type: Desktop V2 Premier,

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1.5 GB Ram, Upgraded PSU, Belarc Advisor, Multimedia - lists, MPU-401

Compatible MIDI Device - Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller -

Standard Game Port. Circuit Board: P4X266-8233, Bus Clock: 100 megahertz,

BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG 09/05/2001, Virus/Malware

Protection - Windows Live One Care, MS Windows Malicious SW

Removal Tool, SUPERAntiSpyware, HiJackThis, Malwarebyte Anti-Malware,

Registry Mechanic 8.0.0.900, CCleaner, and Alvira AntiVir Personal.



I read the below comment by poster VanguardLH in internetexplorer.general

newsgroup.



"I've had 72 tabs open but ran out of memory (they weren't text-only pages)

before IE starting getting overly slow probably due to excessive paging.

However, you can hit web pages that deliberately attempt to consume your CPU

and bandwidth by doing refreshes at very short intervals or by constantly

downloading streams of new content (even if YOU don't see a change in the

page because the new content looks just like the old content). Even with

just a couple tabs open, having visited one of these rude busy-making pages

can make opening other tabs very slow or using the other tabs for already

opened pages."



Concerning - "by doing refreshes at very short intervals"



Question: I use Outlook Express 6, to read newsgroups, can the message

refresh rate be extended or shortened as desired, if so how?



Thank you

 

[Bruce Hagen]

"WMB" wrote in message

news:ORcjByBuKHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Windows XP(Home) SP3, OE6, IE8; Plenty of RAM & HHD space. Continuous

> checks for Virus/Malware

> 1.4Ghz, VIA Technologies, Inc. 8 kilobyte primary memory cache, 256

> kilobyte secondary memory cache, P4X266-8233, Enclosure Type: Desktop V2

> Premier, Windows XP (Home) SP3, 2 Calvary External USB 400/500 GB Hard

> Drives (NTFS), 1.5 GB Ram, Upgraded PSU, Belarc Advisor, Multimedia -

> lists, MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device - Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R)

> Audio Controller - Standard Game Port. Circuit Board: P4X266-8233, Bus

> Clock: 100 megahertz, BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG

> 09/05/2001, Virus/Malware Protection - Windows Live One Care, MS Windows

> Malicious SW

> Removal Tool, SUPERAntiSpyware, HiJackThis, Malwarebyte Anti-Malware,

> Registry Mechanic 8.0.0.900, CCleaner, and Alvira AntiVir Personal.

>

> I read the below comment by poster VanguardLH in

> internetexplorer.general newsgroup.

>

> "I've had 72 tabs open but ran out of memory (they weren't text-only

> pages) before IE starting getting overly slow probably due to excessive

> paging. However, you can hit web pages that deliberately attempt to

> consume your CPU and bandwidth by doing refreshes at very short

> intervals or by constantly downloading streams of new content (even if

> YOU don't see a change in the page because the new content looks just

> like the old content). Even with just a couple tabs open, having

> visited one of these rude busy-making pages can make opening other tabs

> very slow or using the other tabs for already opened pages."

>

> Concerning - "by doing refreshes at very short intervals"

>

> Question: I use Outlook Express 6, to read newsgroups, can the message

> refresh rate be extended or shortened as desired, if so how?

>

> Thank you

>





Are you checking for new news messages when OE polls for new messages?

(Tools | Accounts | News | Properties | General Tab, with Get XXX headers

ay a time unchecked?). The setting has to be the same for News and Mail,

unless you set up a new identity and have one ID for each.



I normally recommend checking for mail no less that ten minutes, but you

can go lower if you don't get a lot of messages and they are not of

considerable size. If a download doesn't complete before the next check,

it will start over and you will end up with multiple messages, but not all

of them.

--

Bruce Hagen

MS-MVP [Mail]

Imperial Beach, CA

 

[Jeff Strickland]

"WMB" wrote in message

news:ORcjByBuKHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Windows XP(Home) SP3, OE6, IE8; Plenty of RAM & HHD space. Continuous

> checks for Virus/Malware

> 1.4Ghz, VIA Technologies, Inc. 8 kilobyte primary memory cache, 256

> kilobyte secondary memory cache, P4X266-8233, Enclosure Type: Desktop V2

> Premier, Windows XP (Home) SP3, 2 Calvary External USB 400/500 GB Hard

> Drives (NTFS), 1.5 GB Ram, Upgraded PSU, Belarc Advisor, Multimedia -

> lists, MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device - Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R)

> Audio Controller - Standard Game Port. Circuit Board: P4X266-8233, Bus

> Clock: 100 megahertz, BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG

> 09/05/2001, Virus/Malware Protection - Windows Live One Care, MS Windows

> Malicious SW

> Removal Tool, SUPERAntiSpyware, HiJackThis, Malwarebyte Anti-Malware,

> Registry Mechanic 8.0.0.900, CCleaner, and Alvira AntiVir Personal.

>

> I read the below comment by poster VanguardLH in internetexplorer.general

> newsgroup.

>

> "I've had 72 tabs open but ran out of memory (they weren't text-only

> pages) before IE starting getting overly slow probably due to excessive

> paging. However, you can hit web pages that deliberately attempt to

> consume your CPU and bandwidth by doing refreshes at very short intervals

> or by constantly downloading streams of new content (even if YOU don't see

> a change in the page because the new content looks just like the old

> content). Even with just a couple tabs open, having visited one of these

> rude busy-making pages can make opening other tabs very slow or using the

> other tabs for already opened pages."

>

> Concerning - "by doing refreshes at very short intervals"

>

> Question: I use Outlook Express 6, to read newsgroups, can the message

> refresh rate be extended or shortened as desired, if so how?

>



You can hit F5 to refresh the group you are in, or click out and then click

back in, anytime you want.

 

[WMB]

"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message

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>

> "WMB" wrote in message

> news:ORcjByBuKHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Windows XP(Home) SP3, OE6, IE8; Plenty of RAM & HHD space. Continuous

>> checks for Virus/Malware

>> 1.4Ghz, VIA Technologies, Inc. 8 kilobyte primary memory cache, 256

>> kilobyte secondary memory cache, P4X266-8233, Enclosure Type: Desktop V2

>> Premier, Windows XP (Home) SP3, 2 Calvary External USB 400/500 GB Hard

>> Drives (NTFS), 1.5 GB Ram, Upgraded PSU, Belarc Advisor, Multimedia -

>> lists, MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device - Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R)

>> Audio Controller - Standard Game Port. Circuit Board: P4X266-8233, Bus

>> Clock: 100 megahertz, BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG

>> 09/05/2001, Virus/Malware Protection - Windows Live One Care, MS Windows

>> Malicious SW

>> Removal Tool, SUPERAntiSpyware, HiJackThis, Malwarebyte Anti-Malware,

>> Registry Mechanic 8.0.0.900, CCleaner, and Alvira AntiVir Personal.

>>

>> I read the below comment by poster VanguardLH in internetexplorer.general

>> newsgroup.

>>

>> "I've had 72 tabs open but ran out of memory (they weren't text-only

>> pages) before IE starting getting overly slow probably due to excessive

>> paging. However, you can hit web pages that deliberately attempt to

>> consume your CPU and bandwidth by doing refreshes at very short intervals

>> or by constantly downloading streams of new content (even if YOU don't

>> see a change in the page because the new content looks just like the old

>> content). Even with just a couple tabs open, having visited one of these

>> rude busy-making pages can make opening other tabs very slow or using the

>> other tabs for already opened pages."

>>

>> Concerning - "by doing refreshes at very short intervals"

>>

>> Question: I use Outlook Express 6, to read newsgroups, can the message

>> refresh rate be extended or shortened as desired, if so how?

>>

>

> You can hit F5 to refresh the group you are in, or click out and then

> click back in, anytime you want.

>

> My post may not have been as clear as i intended, sorry. I'll give a

> senario: I have opened a newsgroup and I am reading a posted message and

> its accompanying replies. The accompanying replies may contain info that i

> wish to make note of, an if its a long post, when the message refreshes it

> jumps back to the beginning of the message and you must scrowl back down

> to the point where you were reading. I was wondering if the interval of

> the refresh rate was adjustable?

 

[Bruce Hagen]

"WMB" wrote in message

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>

> "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message

> news:hmcli5$5lh$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>

>> "WMB" wrote in message

>> news:ORcjByBuKHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Windows XP(Home) SP3, OE6, IE8; Plenty of RAM & HHD space. Continuous

>>> checks for Virus/Malware

>>> 1.4Ghz, VIA Technologies, Inc. 8 kilobyte primary memory cache, 256

>>> kilobyte secondary memory cache, P4X266-8233, Enclosure Type: Desktop

>>> V2 Premier, Windows XP (Home) SP3, 2 Calvary External USB 400/500 GB

>>> Hard Drives (NTFS), 1.5 GB Ram, Upgraded PSU, Belarc Advisor,

>>> Multimedia - lists, MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device - Realtek AC'97

>>> Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller - Standard Game Port. Circuit

>>> Board: P4X266-8233, Bus Clock: 100 megahertz, BIOS: Award Software

>>> International, Inc. 6.00 PG 09/05/2001, Virus/Malware Protection -

>>> Windows Live One Care, MS Windows Malicious SW

>>> Removal Tool, SUPERAntiSpyware, HiJackThis, Malwarebyte Anti-Malware,

>>> Registry Mechanic 8.0.0.900, CCleaner, and Alvira AntiVir Personal.

>>>

>>> I read the below comment by poster VanguardLH in

>>> internetexplorer.general newsgroup.

>>>

>>> "I've had 72 tabs open but ran out of memory (they weren't text-only

>>> pages) before IE starting getting overly slow probably due to

>>> excessive paging. However, you can hit web pages that deliberately

>>> attempt to consume your CPU and bandwidth by doing refreshes at very

>>> short intervals or by constantly downloading streams of new content

>>> (even if YOU don't see a change in the page because the new content

>>> looks just like the old content). Even with just a couple tabs open,

>>> having visited one of these rude busy-making pages can make opening

>>> other tabs very slow or using the other tabs for already opened

>>> pages."

>>>

>>> Concerning - "by doing refreshes at very short intervals"

>>>

>>> Question: I use Outlook Express 6, to read newsgroups, can the message

>>> refresh rate be extended or shortened as desired, if so how?

>>>

>>

>> You can hit F5 to refresh the group you are in, or click out and then

>> click back in, anytime you want.

>>

>> My post may not have been as clear as i intended, sorry. I'll give a

>> senario: I have opened a newsgroup and I am reading a posted message

>> and its accompanying replies. The accompanying replies may contain info

>> that i wish to make note of, an if its a long post, when the message

>> refreshes it jumps back to the beginning of the message and you must

>> scrowl back down to the point where you were reading. I was wondering

>> if the interval of the refresh rate was adjustable?

>





It is refreshing when OE polls for new messages because you have "Include

this account......" checked in Tools | Accounts | News.



What is happening is normal behavior for OE. The easiest work-around is to

work offline when reading a long post. Just add the Offline button to the

OE Toolbar.

--

Bruce Hagen

MS-MVP [Mail]

Imperial Beach, CA

 

[VanguardLH]

WMB wrote:



>> My post may not have been as clear as i intended, sorry. I'll give a

>> senario: I have opened a newsgroup and I am reading a posted message and

>> its accompanying replies. The accompanying replies may contain info that i

>> wish to make note of, an if its a long post, when the message refreshes it

>> jumps back to the beginning of the message and you must scrowl back down

>> to the point where you were reading. I was wondering if the interval of

>> the refresh rate was adjustable?



You configured the news account to be included in the polling interval that

you also configured in OE. You could disable that news account from being

included in the configured polling interval but then you will have to do the

refreshes yourself.



OE has a long-time behavior of jumping back to the top when polling for new

messages when you have scrolled down in a post. You're stuck with that

behavior in OE. It's one of the reasons why I trialed other newsreaders.

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

"WMB" wrote in message

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(incorrect quote level due to poster quoting new material. left as is.)



>> My post may not have been as clear as i intended, sorry. I'll give a

>> senario: I have opened a newsgroup and I am reading a posted message and

>> its accompanying replies. The accompanying replies may contain info that

>> i wish to make note of, an if its a long post, when the message refreshes

>> it jumps back to the beginning of the message and you must scrowl back

>> down to the point where you were reading. I was wondering if the interval

>> of the refresh rate was adjustable?





In addition to the previous comments why not just open the message in its

own window? (Ctrl-o)



BTW I no longer subscribe to OE NG; I saw this in IE.General. Not sure

why it was cross-posted there? ; }





FYI



Robert Aldwinckle

---

 

[WMB]

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message

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> "WMB" wrote in message

> news:u2PWhODuKHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>

> (incorrect quote level due to poster quoting new material. left as is.)

>

>>> My post may not have been as clear as i intended, sorry. I'll give a

>>> senario: I have opened a newsgroup and I am reading a posted message and

>>> its accompanying replies. The accompanying replies may contain info that

>>> i wish to make note of, an if its a long post, when the message

>>> refreshes

>>> it jumps back to the beginning of the message and you must scrowl back

>>> down to the point where you were reading. I was wondering if the

>>> interval

>>> of the refresh rate was adjustable?

>

>

> In addition to the previous comments why not just open the message in its

> own window? (Ctrl-o)

>

> BTW I no longer subscribe to OE NG; I saw this in IE.General. Not sure

> why it was cross-posted there? ; }

>

>

> FYI

>

> Robert Aldwinckle

> ---



Thanks to all who were kind enough to answer. I did check under my

Accounts, msnews properties and found my "server timeouts" settings were set

to to the short end at 30sec. I changed them to the long side, 5min. Lets

see what type of change, if any, this makes. Thanks again for the help.

 

[VanguardLH]

WMB wrote:



> Thanks to all who were kind enough to answer. I did check under my

> Accounts, msnews properties and found my "server timeouts" settings were

> set to to the short end at 30sec. I changed them to the long side, 5min.

> Lets see what type of change, if any, this makes.



That is not the *poll* interval which is not at all hard to find. Just go

look at the options. It's right on the FIRST tab that is shown to you. Now

slap your forehead.

 

[Jeff Strickland]

"WMB" wrote in message

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>

> "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message

> news:hmcli5$5lh$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>

>> "WMB" wrote in message

>> news:ORcjByBuKHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Windows XP(Home) SP3, OE6, IE8; Plenty of RAM & HHD space. Continuous

>>> checks for Virus/Malware

>>> 1.4Ghz, VIA Technologies, Inc. 8 kilobyte primary memory cache, 256

>>> kilobyte secondary memory cache, P4X266-8233, Enclosure Type: Desktop V2

>>> Premier, Windows XP (Home) SP3, 2 Calvary External USB 400/500 GB Hard

>>> Drives (NTFS), 1.5 GB Ram, Upgraded PSU, Belarc Advisor, Multimedia -

>>> lists, MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device - Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R)

>>> Audio Controller - Standard Game Port. Circuit Board: P4X266-8233, Bus

>>> Clock: 100 megahertz, BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG

>>> 09/05/2001, Virus/Malware Protection - Windows Live One Care, MS Windows

>>> Malicious SW

>>> Removal Tool, SUPERAntiSpyware, HiJackThis, Malwarebyte Anti-Malware,

>>> Registry Mechanic 8.0.0.900, CCleaner, and Alvira AntiVir Personal.

>>>

>>> I read the below comment by poster VanguardLH in

>>> internetexplorer.general newsgroup.

>>>

>>> "I've had 72 tabs open but ran out of memory (they weren't text-only

>>> pages) before IE starting getting overly slow probably due to excessive

>>> paging. However, you can hit web pages that deliberately attempt to

>>> consume your CPU and bandwidth by doing refreshes at very short

>>> intervals or by constantly downloading streams of new content (even if

>>> YOU don't see a change in the page because the new content looks just

>>> like the old content). Even with just a couple tabs open, having

>>> visited one of these rude busy-making pages can make opening other tabs

>>> very slow or using the other tabs for already opened pages."

>>>

>>> Concerning - "by doing refreshes at very short intervals"

>>>

>>> Question: I use Outlook Express 6, to read newsgroups, can the message

>>> refresh rate be extended or shortened as desired, if so how?

>>>

>>

>> You can hit F5 to refresh the group you are in, or click out and then

>> click back in, anytime you want.

>>

>> My post may not have been as clear as i intended, sorry. I'll give a

>> senario: I have opened a newsgroup and I am reading a posted message and

>> its accompanying replies. The accompanying replies may contain info that

>> i wish to make note of, an if its a long post, when the message refreshes

>> it jumps back to the beginning of the message and you must scrowl back

>> down to the point where you were reading. I was wondering if the interval

>> of the refresh rate was adjustable?

>







Yes. And your messages are screwed up because it looks like your Reply is

part of my Reply because of the way the > characters are inserted.



While you read a post, the fact that your reader goes out to get more

messages should not disturbe the post you are reading, but you can click

TOOLS>OPTIONS, and in the Send and Receive Messages section, increase the

time between checking for new messages. Longer delays are usually better. I

have my refresh rate set to 30 minutes. If I want to check sooner, I simply

click on the Send/Receive button.

 

[Twayne]

In news:OpFktWMuKHA.3536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,

WMB typed:

> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote in message

> news:uzQ4%236IuKHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> "WMB" wrote in message

>> news:u2PWhODuKHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>

>> (incorrect quote level due to poster quoting new material. left as

>> is.)

>>>> My post may not have been as clear as i intended, sorry. I'll give

>>>> a senario: I have opened a newsgroup and I am reading a posted

>>>> message and its accompanying replies. The accompanying replies may

>>>> contain info that i wish to make note of, an if its a long post,

>>>> when the message refreshes

>>>> it jumps back to the beginning of the message and you must scrowl

>>>> back down to the point where you were reading. I was wondering if

>>>> the interval

>>>> of the refresh rate was adjustable?

>>

>>

>> In addition to the previous comments why not just open the message

>> in its own window? (Ctrl-o)

>>

>> BTW I no longer subscribe to OE NG; I saw this in IE.General. Not

>> sure why it was cross-posted there? ; }





In this case I believe the OP chose those two groups IIRC. It's not

unusual since it's a "general" group and IE/OE go together up to 6.

We do have a do-gooder in our midst that likes to decide what groups need

to see a post, and often adds to a cross-post but in this case I think he's

innocent.



Twayne



>>

>>

>> FYI

>>

>> Robert Aldwinckle

>> ---

>

> Thanks to all who were kind enough to answer. I did check under my

> Accounts, msnews properties and found my "server timeouts" settings

> were set to to the short end at 30sec. I changed them to the long

> side, 5min. Lets see what type of change, if any, this makes. Thanks

> again for the help.