Laptop, charging battery

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When power on the new laptop the first time, should I completely charge the

battery? Should i leave the laptop powered in all night while the battery

be fully charged?

I got new laptop, and the battery has already been inserted. That's strange,

as usually battery packed separately. How to make sure that the battery is

OK?
 
Balzer wrote:

> When power on the new laptop the first time, should I completely

> charge the battery? Should i leave the laptop powered in all night

> while the battery be fully charged?

> I got new laptop, and the battery has already been inserted. That's

> strange, as usually battery packed separately. How to make sure

> that the battery is OK?



Your assumptions are all flawed. ;-)



There is no specific way the battery should have been when you got the

laptop (installed or not.) Depends on where you got it, what brand it is,

whether or not anyone else touched it before you (maybe the store, etc.)



The whole fully charged thing, etc does not matter like it did with older

battery types (assuming this is actually a new laptop and not just 'new to

you'.)



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"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message

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> Balzer wrote:

>> When power on the new laptop the first time, should I completely

>> charge the battery? Should i leave the laptop powered in all night

>> while the battery be fully charged?

>> I got new laptop, and the battery has already been inserted. That's

>> strange, as usually battery packed separately. How to make sure

>> that the battery is OK?

>

> Your assumptions are all flawed. ;-)

>

> There is no specific way the battery should have been when you got the

> laptop (installed or not.) Depends on where you got it, what brand it is,

> whether or not anyone else touched it before you (maybe the store, etc.)

>

> The whole fully charged thing, etc does not matter like it did with older

> battery types (assuming this is actually a new laptop and not just 'new to

> you'.)

>

> --

> Shenan Stanley

> MS-MVP

> --

> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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As far as I heard, dell laptops all come with battery packed separately. How

to charge battery first time?
 
Balzer wrote:

> As far as I heard, dell laptops all come with battery packed

> separately. How to charge battery first time?



Depends on many things (how it is packed, where you got it, what was done

with it before you got it, etc.)



As for charging it - plug the laptop into power using its cabling and use or

don't use it while it charges - there is no wrong answer.



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"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message

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> Balzer wrote:

>> As far as I heard, dell laptops all come with battery packed

>> separately. How to charge battery first time?

>

> Depends on many things (how it is packed, where you got it, what was done

> with it before you got it, etc.)

>

> As for charging it - plug the laptop into power using its cabling and use

> or don't use it while it charges - there is no wrong answer.

>

> --

> Shenan Stanley

> MS-MVP

> --

> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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New battery should be fully charged before their first use? To keep the AC

adapter connected to the notebook until the battery has fully charged?



AFAIK, HP recommend to remove the battery if the notebook is stored (turned

off and not plugged into AC power) for more than 2 weeks. Mine laptop

(packed) definitely has battery inserted at least two months or so, maybe

more..
 
Balzer wrote:

> New battery should be fully charged before their first use? To keep

> the AC adapter connected to the notebook until the battery has

> fully charged?

> AFAIK, HP recommend to remove the battery if the notebook is stored

> (turned off and not plugged into AC power) for more than 2 weeks.

> Mine laptop (packed) definitely has battery inserted at least two

> months or so, maybe more..



It doesn't matter if the battery is fully charged before the first use.



The removal of any chemical battery for storage is common sense. It may/may

not ever be a problem, but it is wise to do.



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Balzer wrote:



>

> "Shenan Stanley" wrote in message

> news:eackmlaqKHA.4284@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>

>> Balzer wrote:

>>

>>> When power on the new laptop the first time, should I completely

>>> charge the battery? Should i leave the laptop powered in all night

>>> while the battery be fully charged?

>>> I got new laptop, and the battery has already been inserted. That's

>>> strange, as usually battery packed separately. How to make sure

>>> that the battery is OK?

>>

>>

>> Your assumptions are all flawed. ;-)

>>

>> There is no specific way the battery should have been when you got the

>> laptop (installed or not.) Depends on where you got it, what brand it

>> is, whether or not anyone else touched it before you (maybe the store,

>> etc.)

>>

>> The whole fully charged thing, etc does not matter like it did with

>> older battery types (assuming this is actually a new laptop and not

>> just 'new to you'.)

>>

>> --

>> Shenan Stanley

>> MS-MVP

>> --

>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

> -------------------

>

> As far as I heard, dell laptops all come with battery packed separately.

> How to charge battery first time?



Not so, just plug in the adapter. Both ends. ;-)
 
Shenan Stanley wrote:

> Balzer wrote:

>> New battery should be fully charged before their first use? To keep

>> the AC adapter connected to the notebook until the battery has

>> fully charged?

>> AFAIK, HP recommend to remove the battery if the notebook is stored

>> (turned off and not plugged into AC power) for more than 2 weeks.

>> Mine laptop (packed) definitely has battery inserted at least two

>> months or so, maybe more..

>

> It doesn't matter if the battery is fully charged before the first use.

>

> The removal of any chemical battery for storage is common sense. It may/may

> not ever be a problem, but it is wise to do.

>



There is an article here, on the charging characteristics of

the batteries.



"Charging lithium-ion batteries"

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm



"Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need priming as nickel-based

batteries do. The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th charge.

Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for the first

time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days."



The charge state when the battery leaves the factory, is selected

for best shelf life. This article compares the shelf life at a couple

of charge states. The battery is shipped with less than a 100% charge

on purpose.



http://www.batteryuniversity.com/print-partone-19.htm



Since the battery is going to wear out in a couple years anyway,

might as well just use it and enjoy it.



If the battery terminal voltage becomes too low, the charger may refuse to

charge it. And that is for safety reasons.



HTH,

Paul
 
"Paul" wrote in message

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> Shenan Stanley wrote:

> > Balzer wrote:

> >> New battery should be fully charged before their first use? To keep

> >> the AC adapter connected to the notebook until the battery has

> >> fully charged?

> >> AFAIK, HP recommend to remove the battery if the notebook is stored

> >> (turned off and not plugged into AC power) for more than 2 weeks.

> >> Mine laptop (packed) definitely has battery inserted at least two

> >> months or so, maybe more..

> >

> > It doesn't matter if the battery is fully charged before the first use.

> >

> > The removal of any chemical battery for storage is common sense. It

may/may

> > not ever be a problem, but it is wise to do.

> >

>

> There is an article here, on the charging characteristics of

> the batteries.

>

> "Charging lithium-ion batteries"

> http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm

>

> "Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need priming as

nickel-based

> batteries do. The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th

charge.

> Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for

the first

> time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days."

>

> The charge state when the battery leaves the factory, is selected

> for best shelf life. This article compares the shelf life at a couple

> of charge states. The battery is shipped with less than a 100% charge

> on purpose.

>

> http://www.batteryuniversity.com/print-partone-19.htm

>

> Since the battery is going to wear out in a couple years anyway,

> might as well just use it and enjoy it.

>

> If the battery terminal voltage becomes too low, the charger may refuse to

> charge it. And that is for safety reasons.

>

> HTH,

> Paul

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The main worry is that battery content did not flowed out and didn't damaged

a laptop housing..



Balzer
 
Balzer wrote:

> The main worry is that battery content did not flowed out and

> didn't damaged a laptop housing..



What?



Is that "did flow out and did damage laptop housing"?



Or, "In order to prevent damage from a possibly leaking battery when storing

the laptop, the laptop battery should be separated from the laptop and

stored in a separate location,"?



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"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message

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> Balzer wrote:

> > The main worry is that battery content did not flowed out and

> > didn't damaged a laptop housing..

>

> What?

>

> Is that "did flow out and did damage laptop housing"?

>

> Or, "In order to prevent damage from a possibly leaking battery when

storing

> the laptop, the laptop battery should be separated from the laptop and

> stored in a separate location,"?

>

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>

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Yep. the second formulation is correct. Any battery can leak.
 
"Balzer" wrote in message

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> ... Any battery can leak.

>



Yup. I spent a little while last week filing green

deposits off the contacts of a battery charger.

In other surroundings the effects could be far,

far worse.
 
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