Is it possible to TRIPLE BOOT?

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I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.

The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to

install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple

boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four

of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP

on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.



Thanks
 
Yes it is possible but I suggest post your query here:







Where Alias, our resident Troll, lives on that newsgroup giving

information on all things Ubuntu, Linux and any shi*ty operating

systems.



Please mention his name in your Subject heading so that you get

perfect response from him.



hth





hello@goodbye.com wrote:

>

> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.

> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to

> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple

> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four

> of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP

> on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.

>

> Thanks



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> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.

> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to

> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple

> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four

> of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP

> on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.

>

> Thanks



I depends on the boot loader you use. Some such as XOSL can handle as many

as you can set up partitions (primary or logical). Since you intend to

install Ubuntu you should look at Grub and get detailed advice from a Grub.

Note also that the Windows boot loader is about as basic as they come. A

good boot loader should be able to selectively hide partitions from each

other, which Windows can't.



If you put the words

grub boot loader hide partitions

into a Google search box then you will get plenty of good links.
 
On Sun, 16 May 2010 00:27:38 +0200, "Pegasus [MVP]"

wrote:



>

>

> wrote in message

>news:s44uu55ci7is8n9uqvqasucdohvaij23l1@4ax.com...

>> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.

>> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to

>> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple

>> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four

>> of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP

>> on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.

>>

>> Thanks

>

>I depends on the boot loader you use. Some such as XOSL can handle as many

>as you can set up partitions (primary or logical). Since you intend to

>install Ubuntu you should look at Grub and get detailed advice from a Grub.

>Note also that the Windows boot loader is about as basic as they come. A

>good boot loader should be able to selectively hide partitions from each

>other, which Windows can't.

>

>If you put the words

>grub boot loader hide partitions

>into a Google search box then you will get plenty of good links.



Thanks for the advice.



I'll search the web for this, but just a couple questions.



Is "Grub" included with Ubantu, or a separate program? (I really know

little about linux, I'm just going to install it for someone since

they want it).



Why would anyone want to HIDE a partition? I can understand not

wanting or needing to see (for example), the linux files, when running

Windows, but that partition can still be used to store other files,

such as photos or MP3s, which would be desired to be accessed from all

OSs. Otherwise it seems like there would be lots of wasted drive

space as well as the inability to access "common files" such as .JPGs,

..MP3s, .TXT files, etc from EVERY OS.



Thanks
 
On Sat, 15 May 2010 17:45:05 -0500, just as I was about to take a

herb, hello@goodbye.com disturbed my reverie and wrote:



>Why would anyone want to HIDE a partition?



I forget which way round it is, but of one version of windows can see

another, it will delete the restore points.



There are other reasons as well. The best tool on the whole fecking

planet is BOOTiTNG from Terabytes Unlimited. Once can have more than

200 primary partitions per disk if one wants. So much tidier than

futzing about with Extended partitions.



A steep learning curve, but when you can plant that flag ion the

summit you will be the master of the best. When installing Linux, you

much install grub/Lilo in the root partition if the Linux setup and

NOT the disk's MBR.

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2 drives..........40g each........that's 80g



2 partitions per drive at 20g each



3 OSes



Doesn't sound like a heck of a lotta room.





Gord



On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:29:33 -0500, hello@goodbye.com wrote:



>I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.

>The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to

>install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple

>boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four

>of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP

>on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.

>

>Thanks
 
Gord Dibben wrote:

>

> 2 drives..........40g each........that's 80g

>

> 2 partitions per drive at 20g each

>

> 3 OSes

>

> Doesn't sound like a heck of a lotta room.

>

> Gord

>



ord Dibben wrote:

> 2 drives..........40g each........that's 80g

>

> 2 partitions per drive at 20g each

>

> 3 OSes

>

> Doesn't sound like a heck of a lotta room.

>

>



Oh no it is quite sufficient for someone who only wants to play

with the

system - not to do any serious work. You missed one thing

though: The

guy is still using Windows 98 (not even Windows 98 SE) so this

should

tell you everything you need to know. No wonder he was asked to

contact

Alias because they have something in common.
 
On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:51:24 -0700, Gord Dibben

wrote:



>Doesn't sound like a heck of a lotta room.

>

>

>Gord



Yea, I did tell them that they should consider replacing at least one

of the drives with a larger one.



After seeing what's all involved, I might just tell them to get

another computer for the Linux. Don't know if I want to mess with

this. From what I've heard, any computer made after around 2000

should run linux, and these days the old computers can be gotten real

cheap.



By the way, Win98 is the SE version.
 
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> On Sun, 16 May 2010 00:27:38 +0200, "Pegasus [MVP]"

> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> wrote in message

>>news:s44uu55ci7is8n9uqvqasucdohvaij23l1@4ax.com...

>>> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.

>>> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to

>>> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple

>>> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four

>>> of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP

>>> on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.

>>>

>>> Thanks

>>

>>I depends on the boot loader you use. Some such as XOSL can handle as many

>>as you can set up partitions (primary or logical). Since you intend to

>>install Ubuntu you should look at Grub and get detailed advice from a

>>Grub.

>>Note also that the Windows boot loader is about as basic as they come. A

>>good boot loader should be able to selectively hide partitions from each

>>other, which Windows can't.

>>

>>If you put the words

>>grub boot loader hide partitions

>>into a Google search box then you will get plenty of good links.

>

> Thanks for the advice.

>

> I'll search the web for this, but just a couple questions.

>

> Is "Grub" included with Ubantu, or a separate program? (I really know

> little about linux, I'm just going to install it for someone since

> they want it).



It's actually "Ubuntu", not "Ubantu", and you should ask questions

about it in an Ubuntu forum. I know next to nothing about it.



> Why would anyone want to HIDE a partition? I can understand not

> wanting or needing to see (for example), the linux files, when running

> Windows, but that partition can still be used to store other files,

> such as photos or MP3s, which would be desired to be accessed from all

> OSs. Otherwise it seems like there would be lots of wasted drive

> space as well as the inability to access "common files" such as .JPGs,

> .MP3s, .TXT files, etc from EVERY OS.



Even with single booting it is good practice to have one partition for

your OS and apps and another for your data. When multi-booting this

becomes compulsory: Have each OS on its own partition which you

hide from all the other OS in order to eliminate interference and in

order to have the System drive always visible as drive C. You then

have one further partition for your data that you share among the

various OSs.



Note also that installing several OSs on a single machine in a proper

and sustainable manner requires a bit of practice. Trying to create

such an environment without practice will most likely end up in

disaster. If this was my show then I would do this:

1. Buy a much larger disk.

2. Use a cloning tool to transfer the existing OSs to the new disk.

3. Play with the chosen boot manager.

4. Back to Step 2 each time I wreck the installation.

5. When on top of the technique, deliver a robust solution.



This will obviously take a bit of time.
 
hello@goodbye.com wrote:

> On Sun, 16 May 2010 00:27:38 +0200, "Pegasus [MVP]"

> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> wrote in message

>> news:s44uu55ci7is8n9uqvqasucdohvaij23l1@4ax.com...

>>> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.

>>> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to

>>> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple

>>> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has

>>> four of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is

>>> on C: XP on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is

>>> possible.

>>>

>>> Thanks

>>

>> I depends on the boot loader you use. Some such as XOSL can handle

>> as many as you can set up partitions (primary or logical). Since you

>> intend to install Ubuntu you should look at Grub and get detailed

>> advice from a Grub. Note also that the Windows boot loader is about

>> as basic as they come. A good boot loader should be able to

>> selectively hide partitions from each other, which Windows can't.

>>

>> If you put the words

>> grub boot loader hide partitions

>> into a Google search box then you will get plenty of good links.

>

> Thanks for the advice.

>

> I'll search the web for this, but just a couple questions.

>

> Is "Grub" included with Ubantu, or a separate program? (I really know

> little about linux, I'm just going to install it for someone since

> they want it).



The one time I installed an Ubuntu distro GRUB was automatic. I found it a

PITA as it sets up its own boot in the MBR and that gives you a menu. If

you select a Windows OS you then get a second boot menu (the one for

Windows). That may not be true if you have only one Windows install, don't

know, but I had no desire to have to deal with two menus



Regardless of one or more Windows installs, if you decide to dump LINUX/GRUB

your MBR is still messed up and *you* have to fix it.



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hello@goodbye.com wrote:

> On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:51:24 -0700, Gord Dibben

> wrote:

>

>> Doesn't sound like a heck of a lotta room.

>>

>>

>> Gord

>

> Yea, I did tell them that they should consider replacing at least one

> of the drives with a larger one.

>

> After seeing what's all involved, I might just tell them to get

> another computer for the Linux. Don't know if I want to mess with

> this. From what I've heard, any computer made after around 2000

> should run linux, and these days the old computers can be gotten real

> cheap.



Tell them to run Linux from a CD.



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LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
 
you will likely crash

the boot sector by

installing ubantu.



and then the headache

begins when your only

alternative to undue the

damage is to re-for-matt.



however, what you can

do without any problems

at all



is to install ubantu and

any number of o.s.'s

in virtual pc or

virtual box.



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news:s44uu55ci7is8n9uqvqasucdohvaij23l1@4ax.com...

> I'm working on a computer that presently dual boots to XP and Win98.

> The computer owner wants to keep both of them, but also wants to

> install Ubantu or another Linux distro. Is it possible to triple

> boot? Yea, I know that requires 3 partitions, and the puter has four

> of them (2 40g drives, 2 partitions each). Right now, 98 is on C: XP

> on D:. So, I guess Linux would go on E: if this is possible.

>

> Thanks
 
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