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Christof Schwiening
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I too get very fustrated by this. I know I should just wait, but it still catches me out - often.....
I think what makes this a UI problem is that when you open a new tab the cursor focus shifts to the toolbar address box. If the focus is in the search box at the point the new tab is opened, then surely the best approch would be to leave it there....but, then again maybe the real problem is that there is still a distinction - which is becoming increasingly blurred - between the search box and the address box.....
Don Wilson wrote:
IE8 search focus bug
12-Nov-09
This problem annoys me often. IE still behaves this way with IE 8, or in my case the focus jumps from the search box after a few characters and into the address input. I do not have any add ons installed. This is the main reason I use Chrome as much as I can instead of IE.
Previous Posts In This Thread:
On Saturday, June 14, 2008 4:08 PM
kt wrote:
IE 7 startup and instant search text box focus
My computer and/or internet connection are a bit slow, so when I start
Internet Explorer it takes a few seconds before it is completely ready. As
soon as the IE window is available, but usually before it has completely
loaded I often start typing a search term in the instant search box.
I'm running IE 7.0.5730.11 on Windows XP, and Google.com is my homepage. I
type pretty quickly. Often what happens is the first few letters of my
search term show up in the instant search box, and then the focus changes to
the homepage, and the last several letters show up in Google's text box. For
example, if I type "triathlons" what I'd get is "tr" in the instant search
box, and "athllons" in the Google search box (on the main page).
Of course if I waited a second for the entire page to load this would not be
a problem... but sometimes I'm in a hurry!
My suggestion is as follows: If the user starts typing in the instant
search box, do not change the focus when the home page completes loading.
Thanks!
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On Saturday, June 14, 2008 4:56 PM
Leonard Grey wrote:
You can't interfere with what IE needs to do in order to start, just like you
You can't interfere with what IE needs to do in order to start, just
like you can't get your CD to play before the disk spins up and the
laser locates the first track, If you want your browser to start faster,
do what I do: load a blank page instead of Google.
---
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Errare humanum est
Kevin wrote:
On Saturday, June 14, 2008 5:39 PM
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
The time it takes for a new IE7 window AND/OR tab to fully load is entirely
The time it takes for a new IE7 window AND/OR tab to fully load is entirely
dependent on what and how many Add-ons have to load. Either be more patient
or disable/uninstall some add-ons.
--
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MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
Kevin wrote:
On Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:17 PM
kt wrote:
Thanks for the responses.
Thanks for the responses. Being more patient and waiting for IE to fully
load is a good workaround.
I do think, however, that the IE development team could error-proof against
this situation, and am making this as a suggestion here. If the program lets
you start typing in the instant search box, it shouldn't jerk the cursor away
from there no matter what's happening behind the scenes.
I would think that it should either keep the cursor there, or not let you
start typing in the first place until it's completely ready. I noticed that
if I set my homepage to www.nytimes.com a similar situation occurs, except
when the cursor focus is taken off the instant search box it doesn't go
anywhere else. Perhaps that NYT page does not have a default text entry box
set.
I tried to see if this situation exists in Safari and Firefox. In both
cases you can start typing as soon as the window is launched even if the home
page is still loading. The focus is never shifted away from the search box.
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
On Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:46 AM
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Re: IE 7 startup and instant search text box focus
Again, WYSIWYS: The speed with which an IE7 window or tab loads is entirely
dependent on the number of enabled Add-ons. Mine is a very short list and
it usually takes 3-4 seconds for a new window or tab to load here. YMMV.
Kevin wrote:
On Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:42 PM
phayward_delet wrote:
Hi Kevin, I completely agree with you.
Hi Kevin,
I completely agree with you. I find this behaviour frustrating indeed.
Yes waiting for IE to finish initializing is desirable but I still find
myself busy typing away into what I think is the search box as it allows me
to select it because teh IE startup is so slow but only to find that after
the init has finished, IE has stolen the focus away.
Somehow this is odd to me.
"Kevin" wrote:
On Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:21 PM
Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
Re: IE 7 startup and instant search text box focus
"Pete" wrote in message
news:887C41BB-35BD-491C-9BBE-8E902494AF60@microsoft.com...
IE7 has a search box now, accessed by Ctrl-e. Why not use it?
Not to me. Your typing and the rendering you set in motion are concurrent
processes, so at the very least you should first attempt to Stop the rendering
e.g. by pressing Esc, before starting your typing. However, since the rendering
may consist of multiple steps, e.g. multiple frames for example, even pressing
Esc once may not be enough. That's why it would be a much better idea to
use the Search bar instead.
On Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:31 PM
phayward_delet wrote:
Hi, Thanks for the reponse.
Hi, Thanks for the reponse. Yes I could use Ctrl-e however to me this misses
the point as it is a workaround to what I believe is a UI useability problem.
Others have also suggested waiting for IE to completely initialise. All very
fair comments, however as with what Kevin has raised, the developers of IE
could not allow a user to begin typing if IE is yet to complete it's
initialising.
Oh I also do not have any extra addins loaded other than that installed by
default.
"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:37 PM
Don Wilson wrote:
IE8 search focus bug
This problem annoys me often. IE still behaves this way with IE 8, or in my case the focus jumps from the search box after a few characters and into the address input. I do not have any add ons installed. This is the main reason I use Chrome as much as I can instead of IE.
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I think what makes this a UI problem is that when you open a new tab the cursor focus shifts to the toolbar address box. If the focus is in the search box at the point the new tab is opened, then surely the best approch would be to leave it there....but, then again maybe the real problem is that there is still a distinction - which is becoming increasingly blurred - between the search box and the address box.....
Don Wilson wrote:
IE8 search focus bug
12-Nov-09
This problem annoys me often. IE still behaves this way with IE 8, or in my case the focus jumps from the search box after a few characters and into the address input. I do not have any add ons installed. This is the main reason I use Chrome as much as I can instead of IE.
Previous Posts In This Thread:
On Saturday, June 14, 2008 4:08 PM
kt wrote:
IE 7 startup and instant search text box focus
My computer and/or internet connection are a bit slow, so when I start
Internet Explorer it takes a few seconds before it is completely ready. As
soon as the IE window is available, but usually before it has completely
loaded I often start typing a search term in the instant search box.
I'm running IE 7.0.5730.11 on Windows XP, and Google.com is my homepage. I
type pretty quickly. Often what happens is the first few letters of my
search term show up in the instant search box, and then the focus changes to
the homepage, and the last several letters show up in Google's text box. For
example, if I type "triathlons" what I'd get is "tr" in the instant search
box, and "athllons" in the Google search box (on the main page).
Of course if I waited a second for the entire page to load this would not be
a problem... but sometimes I'm in a hurry!
My suggestion is as follows: If the user starts typing in the instant
search box, do not change the focus when the home page completes loading.
Thanks!
----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...&dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
On Saturday, June 14, 2008 4:56 PM
Leonard Grey wrote:
You can't interfere with what IE needs to do in order to start, just like you
You can't interfere with what IE needs to do in order to start, just
like you can't get your CD to play before the disk spins up and the
laser locates the first track, If you want your browser to start faster,
do what I do: load a blank page instead of Google.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est
Kevin wrote:
On Saturday, June 14, 2008 5:39 PM
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
The time it takes for a new IE7 window AND/OR tab to fully load is entirely
The time it takes for a new IE7 window AND/OR tab to fully load is entirely
dependent on what and how many Add-ons have to load. Either be more patient
or disable/uninstall some add-ons.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
Kevin wrote:
On Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:17 PM
kt wrote:
Thanks for the responses.
Thanks for the responses. Being more patient and waiting for IE to fully
load is a good workaround.
I do think, however, that the IE development team could error-proof against
this situation, and am making this as a suggestion here. If the program lets
you start typing in the instant search box, it shouldn't jerk the cursor away
from there no matter what's happening behind the scenes.
I would think that it should either keep the cursor there, or not let you
start typing in the first place until it's completely ready. I noticed that
if I set my homepage to www.nytimes.com a similar situation occurs, except
when the cursor focus is taken off the instant search box it doesn't go
anywhere else. Perhaps that NYT page does not have a default text entry box
set.
I tried to see if this situation exists in Safari and Firefox. In both
cases you can start typing as soon as the window is launched even if the home
page is still loading. The focus is never shifted away from the search box.
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
On Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:46 AM
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Re: IE 7 startup and instant search text box focus
Again, WYSIWYS: The speed with which an IE7 window or tab loads is entirely
dependent on the number of enabled Add-ons. Mine is a very short list and
it usually takes 3-4 seconds for a new window or tab to load here. YMMV.
Kevin wrote:
On Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:42 PM
phayward_delet wrote:
Hi Kevin, I completely agree with you.
Hi Kevin,
I completely agree with you. I find this behaviour frustrating indeed.
Yes waiting for IE to finish initializing is desirable but I still find
myself busy typing away into what I think is the search box as it allows me
to select it because teh IE startup is so slow but only to find that after
the init has finished, IE has stolen the focus away.
Somehow this is odd to me.
"Kevin" wrote:
On Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:21 PM
Robert Aldwinckle wrote:
Re: IE 7 startup and instant search text box focus
"Pete" wrote in message
news:887C41BB-35BD-491C-9BBE-8E902494AF60@microsoft.com...
IE7 has a search box now, accessed by Ctrl-e. Why not use it?
Not to me. Your typing and the rendering you set in motion are concurrent
processes, so at the very least you should first attempt to Stop the rendering
e.g. by pressing Esc, before starting your typing. However, since the rendering
may consist of multiple steps, e.g. multiple frames for example, even pressing
Esc once may not be enough. That's why it would be a much better idea to
use the Search bar instead.
On Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:31 PM
phayward_delet wrote:
Hi, Thanks for the reponse.
Hi, Thanks for the reponse. Yes I could use Ctrl-e however to me this misses
the point as it is a workaround to what I believe is a UI useability problem.
Others have also suggested waiting for IE to completely initialise. All very
fair comments, however as with what Kevin has raised, the developers of IE
could not allow a user to begin typing if IE is yet to complete it's
initialising.
Oh I also do not have any extra addins loaded other than that installed by
default.
"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
On Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:37 PM
Don Wilson wrote:
IE8 search focus bug
This problem annoys me often. IE still behaves this way with IE 8, or in my case the focus jumps from the search box after a few characters and into the address input. I do not have any add ons installed. This is the main reason I use Chrome as much as I can instead of IE.
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