Has anyone used Windows 7?

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Hello,



I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want to

try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it and

can comment about it?



Thank you and God Bless,



Mark A. Sam
 
7 is fine. A well thought out, highly polished OS. If you're willing to

use and adapt to some minor changes ( new Taskbar ) you'll quickly

come to like using it.

If XP compatibility is one of your concerns you can get Professional

or Ultimate and it comes with XP mode. ( Virtualized XP ).



"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message

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> Hello,

>

> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want

> to try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it

> and can comment about it?

>

> Thank you and God Bless,

>

> Mark A. Sam

>
 
"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message

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> Hello,

>

> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want

> to try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it

> and can comment about it?

>



I don't have Windows 7 on my own computer but I was on a lot of customer

computers on my last job, which ended recently, doing tech support. A good

number of those customers had Windows 7 and we found it quite easy to work

with. Whereas Vista was a pain in the rear for at least the first year due

to any number of problems, Windows 7 seemed to work very well from the very

beginning. Apparently, there was a large beta program for Windows 7 and I

suspect that has made all the difference; all the major bugs were found -

and fixed - BEFORE they released it to the general public.



I don't want to guarantee you a trouble-free experience - computers are just

too complex and there are too many variations in hardware to hope for that -

but you should have a lot less trouble than most Vista users did with

Windows 7.



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On Mar 5, 12:14 pm, "R. McCarty"

wrote:

>  7 is fine. A well thought out, highly polished OS. If you're willing to

> use and adapt to some minor changes ( new Taskbar ) you'll quickly

> come to like using it.

>  If XP compatibility is one of your concerns you can get Professional

> or Ultimate and it comes with XP mode. ( Virtualized XP ).

>

> "Mark A. Sam" wrote in messagenews:uF3cUyFvKHA.5008@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>

> > Hello,

>

> > I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want

> > to try Windows 7.  I have heard good reports about it.  Is anyone using it

> > and can comment about it?

>

> > Thank you and God Bless,

>

> > Mark A. Sam



Consider Professional as the better choice. Ultimate mainly offers

BitLocker and the additional GUI languages. For me, not the worth the

price. (I have it.)
 
Thank you for your responses. I'm kind of excited to try it. I know about

Vista. Uggh. What a dog. My client is purchasing a Mac and I'll be

configuring that with Windows7. I'm looking forward to that also, as I have

no experience with a Mac.







"Mark A. Sam" wrote in message

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> Hello,

>

> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want

> to try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it

> and can comment about it?

>

> Thank you and God Bless,

>

> Mark A. Sam

>
 
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:08:01 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"

wrote:



> Hello,

>

> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want to

> try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it and

> can comment about it?







I've been using the released version since it first came out, and the

Release Candidate before that. I like it very much. As with almost all

versions of Windows, it is better than its predecessors.



Here are my views; three points below:



1. If you were asking about upgrading, I would give you my standard

answer, as follows:



A change of operating system should be driven by need, not just

because there is a new version available. Are you having a problem

with Windows XP that you expect Windows 7 to solve? Do you have or

expect to get new hardware or software that is supported in Windows 7,

but not in XP? Is there some new feature in Windows 7 that you need or

yearn for? Does your job require you have skills in Windows 7? Are you

a computer hobbyist who enjoys playing with whatever is newest?



If the answer to one or more of those questions is yes (and your

hardware is adequate for Windows 7), then you should get Windows 7.

Otherwise most people should stick with what they have. There is

*always* a learning curve and a potential for problems when you take a

step as big as this one, regardless of how wonderful whatever you're

contemplating moving to is. Sooner or later you'll have to upgrade (to

Windows 7 or its successor) because you'll want support for hardware

or software that you can't get in XP, but don't rush it.



I say all the above despite the fact that I'm a big Windows 7 fan. I

think it's the best and most stable of all versions of Windows.



2. But since you are talking about getting a new computer, I strongly

recommend getting it with Windows 7. It hardly ever makes sense to

take a step backward by getting a new computer with an old version of

an operating system.



3. Be aware that as with any new operating system, there are

differences from what you are accustomed to. Differences will take you

some time to get accustomed to, and for many people differences cause

them frustration. So be prepared for some initial frustration, but

give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences, rather than

throwing about the new Windows 7 because you haven't yet learned

enough about it.





--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

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On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:14:04 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"

wrote:



> Thank you for your responses. I'm kind of excited to try it. I know about

> Vista. Uggh. What a dog.





I completely disagree. I think Vista was better than XP, and I think

Windows 7 is better than Vista. As I said in my earlier message in

this thread, almost every version of Windows is better than the ones

that came before it.





> My client is purchasing a Mac and I'll be

> configuring that with Windows7. I'm looking forward to that also, as I have

> no experience with a Mac.





Be aware that I know next to nothing about the Macintosh, but let me

make just one comment: a Macintosh invariably costs substantially more

than an equivalent Windows machine. Although I personally wouldn't buy

a Macintosh, I can understand why somebody would want to if they

prefer the Macintosh software. But it makes no sense to me to pay the

extra money for a Macintosh if you are going to run the Windows

software on it.



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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

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You must know how to configure it or maybe it was the version I used. On

two machines they are Home Edition, and another I upgraded to Ultimate. But

they are really slow loading, that is my biggest gripe.





"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message

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> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:14:04 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"

> wrote:

>

>> Thank you for your responses. I'm kind of excited to try it. I know

>> about

>> Vista. Uggh. What a dog.

>

>

> I completely disagree. I think Vista was better than XP, and I think

> Windows 7 is better than Vista. As I said in my earlier message in

> this thread, almost every version of Windows is better than the ones

> that came before it.

>

>

>> My client is purchasing a Mac and I'll be

>> configuring that with Windows7. I'm looking forward to that also, as I

>> have

>> no experience with a Mac.

>

>

> Be aware that I know next to nothing about the Macintosh, but let me

> make just one comment: a Macintosh invariably costs substantially more

> than an equivalent Windows machine. Although I personally wouldn't buy

> a Macintosh, I can understand why somebody would want to if they

> prefer the Macintosh software. But it makes no sense to me to pay the

> extra money for a Macintosh if you are going to run the Windows

> software on it.

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
I believe you. I am excited about trying Win7.



"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message

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> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:08:01 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"

> wrote:

>

>> Hello,

>>

>> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want

>> to

>> try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it

>> and

>> can comment about it?

>

>

>

> I've been using the released version since it first came out, and the

> Release Candidate before that. I like it very much. As with almost all

> versions of Windows, it is better than its predecessors.

>

> Here are my views; three points below:

>

> 1. If you were asking about upgrading, I would give you my standard

> answer, as follows:

>

> A change of operating system should be driven by need, not just

> because there is a new version available. Are you having a problem

> with Windows XP that you expect Windows 7 to solve? Do you have or

> expect to get new hardware or software that is supported in Windows 7,

> but not in XP? Is there some new feature in Windows 7 that you need or

> yearn for? Does your job require you have skills in Windows 7? Are you

> a computer hobbyist who enjoys playing with whatever is newest?

>

> If the answer to one or more of those questions is yes (and your

> hardware is adequate for Windows 7), then you should get Windows 7.

> Otherwise most people should stick with what they have. There is

> *always* a learning curve and a potential for problems when you take a

> step as big as this one, regardless of how wonderful whatever you're

> contemplating moving to is. Sooner or later you'll have to upgrade (to

> Windows 7 or its successor) because you'll want support for hardware

> or software that you can't get in XP, but don't rush it.

>

> I say all the above despite the fact that I'm a big Windows 7 fan. I

> think it's the best and most stable of all versions of Windows.

>

> 2. But since you are talking about getting a new computer, I strongly

> recommend getting it with Windows 7. It hardly ever makes sense to

> take a step backward by getting a new computer with an old version of

> an operating system.

>

> 3. Be aware that as with any new operating system, there are

> differences from what you are accustomed to. Differences will take you

> some time to get accustomed to, and for many people differences cause

> them frustration. So be prepared for some initial frustration, but

> give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences, rather than

> throwing about the new Windows 7 because you haven't yet learned

> enough about it.

>

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:34:13 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"

wrote:



> I believe you. I am excited about trying Win7.





Good, glad to hear it. But please pay attention to point 3 below. I

suspect that your dislike of Vista was largely because you didn't

"give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences."





> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message

> news:u272p5lhie8kcptr43dq88vd1eg4djc20e@4ax.com...

> > On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:08:01 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"

> > wrote:

> >

> >> Hello,

> >>

> >> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want

> >> to

> >> try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it

> >> and

> >> can comment about it?

> >

> >

> >

> > I've been using the released version since it first came out, and the

> > Release Candidate before that. I like it very much. As with almost all

> > versions of Windows, it is better than its predecessors.

> >

> > Here are my views; three points below:

> >

> > 1. If you were asking about upgrading, I would give you my standard

> > answer, as follows:

> >

> > A change of operating system should be driven by need, not just

> > because there is a new version available. Are you having a problem

> > with Windows XP that you expect Windows 7 to solve? Do you have or

> > expect to get new hardware or software that is supported in Windows 7,

> > but not in XP? Is there some new feature in Windows 7 that you need or

> > yearn for? Does your job require you have skills in Windows 7? Are you

> > a computer hobbyist who enjoys playing with whatever is newest?

> >

> > If the answer to one or more of those questions is yes (and your

> > hardware is adequate for Windows 7), then you should get Windows 7.

> > Otherwise most people should stick with what they have. There is

> > *always* a learning curve and a potential for problems when you take a

> > step as big as this one, regardless of how wonderful whatever you're

> > contemplating moving to is. Sooner or later you'll have to upgrade (to

> > Windows 7 or its successor) because you'll want support for hardware

> > or software that you can't get in XP, but don't rush it.

> >

> > I say all the above despite the fact that I'm a big Windows 7 fan. I

> > think it's the best and most stable of all versions of Windows.

> >

> > 2. But since you are talking about getting a new computer, I strongly

> > recommend getting it with Windows 7. It hardly ever makes sense to

> > take a step backward by getting a new computer with an old version of

> > an operating system.

> >

> > 3. Be aware that as with any new operating system, there are

> > differences from what you are accustomed to. Differences will take you

> > some time to get accustomed to, and for many people differences cause

> > them frustration. So be prepared for some initial frustration, but

> > give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences, rather than

> > throwing about the new Windows 7 because you haven't yet learned

> > enough about it.

> >

> >

> > --

> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>



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On 05 Mar 2010, "Mark A. Sam" wrote in

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:



> Thank you for your responses. I'm kind of excited to try it. I

> know about Vista. Uggh. What a dog.



I have computers running XP, Vista, and Windows 7. I have no great

problems with Vista - it works just fine for me. Win 7 is more like

Vista than XP If you truly hate Vista as you say, you might not like

Win 7 either.
 
No, it is simply because Vista was very slow. I'm currently taking on

Dreamweaver, Flash, and soon Apple, which are all strangers to me.

Everything in the past was Microsoft. So adapting isn't the issue.



>

> Good, glad to hear it. But please pay attention to point 3 below. I

> suspect that your dislike of Vista was largely because you didn't

> "give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences."

>
 
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:07:36 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"

wrote:





> No, it is simply because Vista was very slow.





No, it isn't. Undoubtedly you are ascribing to Vista what should be

blamed on one or both of the following:



1. Your hardware was inadequate for Vista. For example, you might not

have had enough RAM for the applications you ran under Vista.



2. You were infected with malware.







> I'm currently taking on

> Dreamweaver, Flash, and soon Apple, which are all strangers to me.

> Everything in the past was Microsoft. So adapting isn't the issue.

>

> >

> > Good, glad to hear it. But please pay attention to point 3 below. I

> > suspect that your dislike of Vista was largely because you didn't

> > "give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences."

> >

>



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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

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I don't know the RAM, but they were all new machines with Home Edition. One

I updated to Ultimate so it could join a domain. A friend told me that his

ran well after he configured it. But I had heard a lot of people complain

of sluggishness. It doesn't matter, since it is off the market.









"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message

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> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:07:36 -0500, "Mark A. Sam"

> wrote:

>

>

>> No, it is simply because Vista was very slow.

>

>

> No, it isn't. Undoubtedly you are ascribing to Vista what should be

> blamed on one or both of the following:

>

> 1. Your hardware was inadequate for Vista. For example, you might not

> have had enough RAM for the applications you ran under Vista.

>

> 2. You were infected with malware.

>

>

>

>> I'm currently taking on

>> Dreamweaver, Flash, and soon Apple, which are all strangers to me.

>> Everything in the past was Microsoft. So adapting isn't the issue.

>>

>> >

>> > Good, glad to hear it. But please pay attention to point 3 below. I

>> > suspect that your dislike of Vista was largely because you didn't

>> > "give yourself enough time to adapt to the differences."

>> >

>>

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
In article , MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com

says...

>

> Hello,

>

> I am considering a new machine and can get it with XP installed, but want to

> try Windows 7. I have heard good reports about it. Is anyone using it and

> can comment about it?



I have Win 7 Ultimate and Professional running on hundreds of NEW

computers and dozens of older computers.



Win 7 is slower than XP, but we expect that, it's always been that way

with MS.



Win 7 seems to be very stable, like XP is.



Win 7 needs a good performing graphics card, one with at least 256MB of

dedicated memory, not that shared memory crap found in cheap computers.

If you can get a quality 512MB card your video performance will be

better.



Win 7 needs at least 2GB ram for basic operation with MS Office. I

normally spec NEW machines with 4GB and purchase the x64 bit version for

Core 2 Duo machines as a min.



On older machines, that were running XP, Win 7 seems to be a leap ahead

of Vista.



Expect your machine to be slower than on XP, and make sure that your old

XP machine has at least 1GB RAM if you want to start playing with Win 7,

upgrade to 2-4GB if you plan on keeping Win 7 on that told machine.



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voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.

Trust yourself.

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I just bought a Sony Vaio NW and a $1000 build of a Dell Studio 17

laptop and am going from only experience with XP except the one Vista

Laptop I helped a friend set up, And there are new ways of doing thing

to learn but I find I do like my Windows Home Premium a lot.

Both are 64 bit versions and have 4 gb RAM.
 
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