[Fwd: Re: Is defraging necessary?]

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FYI





No it is not absolute necessity to defrag your HD unless you want

to kill time doing something. The nutters who have said that you

should defrag your HD every week or even every month are likely to

be loners and jobless.



There is no evidence that defragging speeds up your system in any

shape or form. No something you will notice it when using your

system everyday.



hth





Lisa wrote:

>

> I was told by a computer repairman that it's not necessary to defrag my

> laptop. If the hard drive gets full, remove files and always make sure I'm

> using a virus protection.

> What are your thoughts?



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On May 14, 6:33 pm, LDS5ZRA wrote:

> FYI

>

> No it is not absolute necessity to defrag your HD unless you want

> to kill time doing something.  The nutters who have said that you

> should defrag your HD every week or even every month are likely to

> be loners and jobless.

>

> There is no evidence that defragging speeds up your system in any

> shape or form.  No something you will notice it when using your

> system everyday.

>

> hth

>

> Lisa wrote:

>

> > I was told by a computer repairman that it's not necessary to defrag my

> > laptop.  If the hard drive gets full, remove files and always make sure I'm

> > using a virus protection.

> > What are your thoughts?

>

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Microsoft states in their TechNet discussions that NTFS is designed

to

resist fragmentation, but it is not immune to it, and that there is a

benefit to properly defragmenting an NTFS volume.



If fragmentation was not possible in NTFS it seems unlikely that

Microsoft (and other experts) would expend so much effort discussing

how to detect it, how to deal with it and and how to prevent it.



http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc767961.aspx
 
On 05/15/2010 12:27 PM, Jose wrote:

> On May 14, 6:33 pm, LDS5ZRA wrote:

>> FYI

>>

>> No it is not absolute necessity to defrag your HD unless you want

>> to kill time doing something. The nutters who have said that you

>> should defrag your HD every week or even every month are likely to

>> be loners and jobless.

>>

>> There is no evidence that defragging speeds up your system in any

>> shape or form. No something you will notice it when using your

>> system everyday.

>>

>> hth

>>

>> Lisa wrote:

>>

>>> I was told by a computer repairman that it's not necessary to defrag my

>>> laptop. If the hard drive gets full, remove files and always make sure I'm

>>> using a virus protection.

>>> What are your thoughts?

>>

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>> Copyright LDS5ZRA 2010.

>

> Microsoft states in their TechNet discussions that NTFS is designed

> to

> resist fragmentation, but it is not immune to it, and that there is a

> benefit to properly defragmenting an NTFS volume.

>

> If fragmentation was not possible in NTFS it seems unlikely that

> Microsoft (and other experts) would expend so much effort discussing

> how to detect it, how to deal with it and and how to prevent it.

>

> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc767961.aspx



I've seen machines with over 6,000 files fragmented that took five

minutes to boot. After a clean up and a defrag, the boot took a little

over a minute.



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Alias wrote:

> On 05/15/2010 12:27 PM, Jose wrote:

>> On May 14, 6:33 pm, LDS5ZRA wrote:

>>> FYI

>>>

>>> No it is not absolute necessity to defrag your HD unless you want

>>> to kill time doing something. The nutters who have said that you

>>> should defrag your HD every week or even every month are likely to

>>> be loners and jobless.

>>>

>>> There is no evidence that defragging speeds up your system in any

>>> shape or form. No something you will notice it when using your

>>> system everyday.

>>>

>>> hth

>>>

>>> Lisa wrote:

>>>

>>>> I was told by a computer repairman that it's not necessary to defrag my

>>>> laptop. If the hard drive gets full, remove files and always make

>>>> sure I'm

>>>> using a virus protection.

>>>> What are your thoughts?

>>>

>>> --

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>>> KIND. LDS5ZRA DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESSED OR

>>> IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND

>>> FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL LDS5ZRA

>>> OR HIS ASSOCIATES BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER

>>> INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF

>>> BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LDS5ZRA OR HIS

>>> ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH

>>> DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR

>>> LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL

>>> DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.

>>>

>>> Copyright LDS5ZRA 2010.

>>

>> Microsoft states in their TechNet discussions that NTFS is designed

>> to

>> resist fragmentation, but it is not immune to it, and that there is a

>> benefit to properly defragmenting an NTFS volume.

>>

>> If fragmentation was not possible in NTFS it seems unlikely that

>> Microsoft (and other experts) would expend so much effort discussing

>> how to detect it, how to deal with it and and how to prevent it.

>>

>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc767961.aspx

>

> I've seen machines with over 6,000 files fragmented that took five

> minutes to boot. After a clean up and a defrag, the boot took a little

> over a minute.

>



Amen!! I have seen the same thing.
 
In article ,

aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com says...

> I've seen machines with over 6,000 files fragmented that took five

> minutes to boot. After a clean up and a defrag, the boot took a little

> over a minute.

>



We had one customer that gets scanned documents for orders, taking in

4000-8000 PDF's per day. The document images have their own array/drive

bank, and the images are stored, read by an app, users add notes to the

PDF's, and they are retained for years.



The vendor claimed no defrag was needed.



The system flew (was fast) for the first 6 months, then older users

reported hesitations - the vendor claimed it was normal.



The system, at 1 year, was starting to show Time-Out errors switching

between PDF's in the application - vendor claimed it was normal with

such a high volume of orders...



At 1.5 years the system would generate time-out errors every few

documents, new orders were failing also....



Vendor worked on it for a week and could not resolve it, changed RAID

caching levels, added memory, wanted to add MORE DRIVES. They even

suggested moving from a DUAL Quad CPU system to a QUAD CPU system.



I took the system offline for about 8 hours, used JK Defrag and had it

leave slack space between areas, restarted everything, low and behold,

it performed like the first day it was put into service....



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On 05/15/2010 05:57 PM, Leythos wrote:

> In article,

> aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com says...

>> I've seen machines with over 6,000 files fragmented that took five

>> minutes to boot. After a clean up and a defrag, the boot took a little

>> over a minute.

>>

>

> We had one customer that gets scanned documents for orders, taking in

> 4000-8000 PDF's per day. The document images have their own array/drive

> bank, and the images are stored, read by an app, users add notes to the

> PDF's, and they are retained for years.

>

> The vendor claimed no defrag was needed.

>

> The system flew (was fast) for the first 6 months, then older users

> reported hesitations - the vendor claimed it was normal.

>

> The system, at 1 year, was starting to show Time-Out errors switching

> between PDF's in the application - vendor claimed it was normal with

> such a high volume of orders...

>

> At 1.5 years the system would generate time-out errors every few

> documents, new orders were failing also....

>

> Vendor worked on it for a week and could not resolve it, changed RAID

> caching levels, added memory, wanted to add MORE DRIVES. They even

> suggested moving from a DUAL Quad CPU system to a QUAD CPU system.

>

> I took the system offline for about 8 hours, used JK Defrag and had it

> leave slack space between areas, restarted everything, low and behold,

> it performed like the first day it was put into service....

>



It's called MyDefrag v4.0 now. See http://kessels.com/jkdefrag/



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Alias
 
On 5/15/2010 9:05 AM, Alias wrote:

> On 05/15/2010 05:57 PM, Leythos wrote:

>> In article,

>> aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com says...

>>> I've seen machines with over 6,000 files fragmented that took five

>>> minutes to boot. After a clean up and a defrag, the boot took a little

>>> over a minute.

>>>

>>

>> We had one customer that gets scanned documents for orders, taking in

>> 4000-8000 PDF's per day. The document images have their own array/drive

>> bank, and the images are stored, read by an app, users add notes to the

>> PDF's, and they are retained for years.

>>

>> The vendor claimed no defrag was needed.

>>

>> The system flew (was fast) for the first 6 months, then older users

>> reported hesitations - the vendor claimed it was normal.

>>

>> The system, at 1 year, was starting to show Time-Out errors switching

>> between PDF's in the application - vendor claimed it was normal with

>> such a high volume of orders...

>>

>> At 1.5 years the system would generate time-out errors every few

>> documents, new orders were failing also....

>>

>> Vendor worked on it for a week and could not resolve it, changed RAID

>> caching levels, added memory, wanted to add MORE DRIVES. They even

>> suggested moving from a DUAL Quad CPU system to a QUAD CPU system.

>>

>> I took the system offline for about 8 hours, used JK Defrag and had it

>> leave slack space between areas, restarted everything, low and behold,

>> it performed like the first day it was put into service....

>>

>

> It's called MyDefrag v4.0 now. See http://kessels.com/jkdefrag/

>

....and it's an excellent program with many options. But it certainly

doesn't have to be run every day or every week.



Bill
 
In article ,

aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com says...

>

> On 05/15/2010 05:57 PM, Leythos wrote:

> > In article,

> > aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com says...

> >> I've seen machines with over 6,000 files fragmented that took five

> >> minutes to boot. After a clean up and a defrag, the boot took a little

> >> over a minute.

> >>

> >

> > We had one customer that gets scanned documents for orders, taking in

> > 4000-8000 PDF's per day. The document images have their own array/drive

> > bank, and the images are stored, read by an app, users add notes to the

> > PDF's, and they are retained for years.

> >

> > The vendor claimed no defrag was needed.

> >

> > The system flew (was fast) for the first 6 months, then older users

> > reported hesitations - the vendor claimed it was normal.

> >

> > The system, at 1 year, was starting to show Time-Out errors switching

> > between PDF's in the application - vendor claimed it was normal with

> > such a high volume of orders...

> >

> > At 1.5 years the system would generate time-out errors every few

> > documents, new orders were failing also....

> >

> > Vendor worked on it for a week and could not resolve it, changed RAID

> > caching levels, added memory, wanted to add MORE DRIVES. They even

> > suggested moving from a DUAL Quad CPU system to a QUAD CPU system.

> >

> > I took the system offline for about 8 hours, used JK Defrag and had it

> > leave slack space between areas, restarted everything, low and behold,

> > it performed like the first day it was put into service....

> >

>

> It's called MyDefrag v4.0 now. See http://kessels.com/jkdefrag/



Yes, I know, but it was called JKDefrag when I used it in this example.



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Ken wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>> On 05/15/2010 12:27 PM, Jose wrote:

>>> On May 14, 6:33 pm, LDS5ZRA wrote:

>>>> FYI

>>>>

>>>> No it is not absolute necessity to defrag your HD unless you want

>>>> to kill time doing something. The nutters who have said that you

>>>> should defrag your HD every week or even every month are likely to

>>>> be loners and jobless.

>>>>

>>>> There is no evidence that defragging speeds up your system in any

>>>> shape or form. No something you will notice it when using your

>>>> system everyday.

>>>>

>>>> hth

>>>>

>>>> Lisa wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> I was told by a computer repairman that it's not necessary to

>>>>> defrag my

>>>>> laptop. If the hard drive gets full, remove files and always make

>>>>> sure I'm

>>>>> using a virus protection.

>>>>> What are your thoughts?

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> THE INFORMATION IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY

>>>> KIND. LDS5ZRA DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESSED OR

>>>> IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND

>>>> FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL LDS5ZRA

>>>> OR HIS ASSOCIATES BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER

>>>> INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF

>>>> BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LDS5ZRA OR HIS

>>>> ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH

>>>> DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR

>>>> LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL

>>>> DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.

>>>>

>>>> Copyright LDS5ZRA 2010.

>>>

>>> Microsoft states in their TechNet discussions that NTFS is designed

>>> to

>>> resist fragmentation, but it is not immune to it, and that there is a

>>> benefit to properly defragmenting an NTFS volume.

>>>

>>> If fragmentation was not possible in NTFS it seems unlikely that

>>> Microsoft (and other experts) would expend so much effort discussing

>>> how to detect it, how to deal with it and and how to prevent it.

>>>

>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc767961.aspx

>>

>> I've seen machines with over 6,000 files fragmented that took five

>> minutes to boot. After a clean up and a defrag, the boot took a little

>> over a minute.

>>

>

> Amen!! I have seen the same thing.





As have I. A friend came to me once complaining that her computer had

slowed to a snail's pace. When I asked her "When was the last time you

defragged the drive?" she had no idea what I was talking about. She'd

had the computer three years. I told her how to start defrag, and told

her it might take a while. Two days later she told me it took *eight

hours*, but that she was astonished how much faster her computer was

running now.



Tony
 
Jose wrote:

>

> Microsoft states in their TechNet discussions that NTFS is designed

> to

> resist fragmentation, but it is not immune to it, and that there is a

> benefit to properly defragmenting an NTFS volume.

>

> If fragmentation was not possible in NTFS it seems unlikely that

> Microsoft (and other experts) would expend so much effort discussing

> how to detect it, how to deal with it and and how to prevent it.

>

> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc767961.aspx



Right. If you have a database that's processing several thousand additions

and deletions per minute, and sundry other high-volume transactions, the

volume may be a candidate for defragmentation.



For anything less than the American Airlines Reservations System or the

Social Security Administration, defragging is similar to a monthly

application of mineral oil to your kitchen drain (to lubricate the pipes).
 
Leythos wrote:

> In article ,

> aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com says...

>> I've seen machines with over 6,000 files fragmented that took five

>> minutes to boot. After a clean up and a defrag, the boot took a

>> little over a minute.

>>

>

> We had one customer that gets scanned documents for orders, taking in

> 4000-8000 PDF's per day. The document images have their own

> array/drive bank, and the images are stored, read by an app, users

> add notes to the PDF's, and they are retained for years.

>

> The vendor claimed no defrag was needed.

>

> The system flew (was fast) for the first 6 months, then older users

> reported hesitations - the vendor claimed it was normal.

>

> The system, at 1 year, was starting to show Time-Out errors switching

> between PDF's in the application - vendor claimed it was normal with

> such a high volume of orders...

>

> At 1.5 years the system would generate time-out errors every few

> documents, new orders were failing also....

>

> Vendor worked on it for a week and could not resolve it, changed RAID

> caching levels, added memory, wanted to add MORE DRIVES. They even

> suggested moving from a DUAL Quad CPU system to a QUAD CPU system.

>

> I took the system offline for about 8 hours, used JK Defrag and had it

> leave slack space between areas, restarted everything, low and behold,

> it performed like the first day it was put into service....



That was a FAT-32 drive. Right?
 
Re: Is defraging necessary?]

I guess the laws of physics simply suspend themselves for those such as you,

eh?





In news:4BEDE98B.B6C61552@discussions.microsoft.com,

LDS5ZRA typed:

> FYI

>

>

> No it is not absolute necessity to defrag your HD unless

> you want to kill time doing something.



Almost true; but that says nothing about head seek times et al which will

extend the time things take. Apparently you do nothing but spew your crap

on newsgroups and so it'll never matter to you.



The nutters who

> have said that you should defrag your HD every week or even

> every month are likely to be loners and jobless.



Funny: Where I learned about defragging and why/how/when was on the job

originally. You need more education but it's obvious you'll never get it,

since the laws of physics suspend themselves for you.



HTH,



Twayne`



> There is no evidence that defragging speeds up your system

> in any shape or form. No something you will notice it when

> using your system everyday.

>

> hth

>

>

> Lisa wrote:

>>

>> I was told by a computer repairman that it's not necessary

>> to defrag my laptop. If the hard drive gets full, remove

>> files and always make sure I'm using a virus protection.

>> What are your thoughts?
 
In news:%23cIR$LF9KHA.5476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,

Billns typed:

> On 5/15/2010 9:05 AM, Alias wrote:

>> On 05/15/2010 05:57 PM, Leythos wrote:

>>> In article,

>>> aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com says...

>>>> I've seen machines with over 6,000 files fragmented that

>>>> took five minutes to boot. After a clean up and a

>>>> defrag, the boot took a little over a minute.

>>>>

>>>

>>> We had one customer that gets scanned documents for

>>> orders, taking in 4000-8000 PDF's per day. The document

>>> images have their own array/drive bank, and the images

>>> are stored, read by an app, users add notes to the PDF's,

>>> and they are retained for years. The vendor claimed no defrag was

>>> needed.

>>>

>>> The system flew (was fast) for the first 6 months, then

>>> older users reported hesitations - the vendor claimed it

>>> was normal. The system, at 1 year, was starting to show Time-Out

>>> errors switching between PDF's in the application -

>>> vendor claimed it was normal with such a high volume of

>>> orders... At 1.5 years the system would generate time-out errors

>>> every few documents, new orders were failing also....

>>>

>>> Vendor worked on it for a week and could not resolve it,

>>> changed RAID caching levels, added memory, wanted to add

>>> MORE DRIVES. They even suggested moving from a DUAL Quad

>>> CPU system to a QUAD CPU system. I took the system offline for about 8

>>> hours, used JK

>>> Defrag and had it leave slack space between areas,

>>> restarted everything, low and behold, it performed like

>>> the first day it was put into service....

>>

>> It's called MyDefrag v4.0 now. See

>> http://kessels.com/jkdefrag/

> ...and it's an excellent program with many options. But it

> certainly doesn't have to be run every day or every week.

>

> Bill



I don't believe anyone ever said that so it's irrelevant. But even if one

does, as long as they are on a working UPS, nothing is apt to go wrong

except extra wear and tear on the drive head mechanisms.

I however related one set of apps in an earlier post that I use a

dedicated drive for, and which requires a defrag after EVERY session unless

I want thing to get really slow on that drive! I didn't believe it when I

first read it, but experience is the best teacher; they meant what they

said.



HTH,



Twayne`
 
Is defraging necessary?]

Don't talk about Physics because you are the first person

definitely not qualified to comment on that topic. I AM!



HTH





Twayne wrote:

>

> I guess the laws of physics simply suspend themselves for those such as you,

> eh?

>



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INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF

BUSINESS PROFITS OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF LDS5ZRA OR HIS

ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH

DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR

LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL

DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.



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In article , heybub@gmail.com

says...

> For anything less than the American Airlines Reservations System or the

> Social Security Administration, defragging is similar to a monthly

> application of mineral oil to your kitchen drain (to lubricate the pipes).

>



Small office using PeachTree, 200 accounts in system, 5 accountants,

reports taking 10+ minutes to generate or time-out, system in use only 1

year, 1.8TB of free space on drive where PT is installed. The only

maintenance needed to fix the issue was to defrag the server, file level

defrag.



Small office, 10 users, concrete company, same type of issue, QB, custom

MS Access application, random errors, random time-outs, defrag returned

performance to like new - in operation about 2 years, 300GB free drive

space on server....



Single computer, 1TB drive space, single drive, user editing videos,

creating DVD's would sometimes fail, about 100GB free at any time.

Defrag (file defrag) resolved issues - scheduled for monthly defrag on

weekend, no errors have returned.



Single computer, 500GB drive, multiple online games with large map

databases, about 80GB free, maps reported to take significantly longer

to load causing other online players to have to wait for this person to

enter the map - defragged the drive and maps load 30 seconds faster than

before.



Like it or not, defrag does help system performance IN THE REAL WORLD

and even on small computer systems.



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In article , heybub@gmail.com

says...

>

> Leythos wrote:

> > In article ,

> > aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com says...

> >> I've seen machines with over 6,000 files fragmented that took five

> >> minutes to boot. After a clean up and a defrag, the boot took a

> >> little over a minute.

> >>

> >

> > We had one customer that gets scanned documents for orders, taking in

> > 4000-8000 PDF's per day. The document images have their own

> > array/drive bank, and the images are stored, read by an app, users

> > add notes to the PDF's, and they are retained for years.

> >

> > The vendor claimed no defrag was needed.

> >

> > The system flew (was fast) for the first 6 months, then older users

> > reported hesitations - the vendor claimed it was normal.

> >

> > The system, at 1 year, was starting to show Time-Out errors switching

> > between PDF's in the application - vendor claimed it was normal with

> > such a high volume of orders...

> >

> > At 1.5 years the system would generate time-out errors every few

> > documents, new orders were failing also....

> >

> > Vendor worked on it for a week and could not resolve it, changed RAID

> > caching levels, added memory, wanted to add MORE DRIVES. They even

> > suggested moving from a DUAL Quad CPU system to a QUAD CPU system.

> >

> > I took the system offline for about 8 hours, used JK Defrag and had it

> > leave slack space between areas, restarted everything, low and behold,

> > it performed like the first day it was put into service....

>

> That was a FAT-32 drive. Right?



Windows Server 2003, NTFS, 12 drives in a single RAID-5 with 512MB RAID

CACHE controller.



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