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Hi,



I have two computers at home: one PC with Windows XP Professional,

another PC with Windows 7 Home Premium. Both PCs are connected to my

ISP's cable modem via a switch.



I would like to share a folder on Windows XP so Windows 7 could read

the files in that folder.



I have shared the directory on Windows XP to "Everyone". A hand

appears under the shared folder, so sharing seems to work.



The question is now:

How do I access the shared folder from Windows 7?



In Windows 7's, under File Manager's "Network", I can see only Windows

7 itself, not Windows XP.



-- dave
 
dave_140390@hotmail.com wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I have two computers at home: one PC with Windows XP Professional,

> another PC with Windows 7 Home Premium. Both PCs are connected to my

> ISP's cable modem via a switch.

>

> I would like to share a folder on Windows XP so Windows 7 could read

> the files in that folder.

>

> I have shared the directory on Windows XP to "Everyone". A hand

> appears under the shared folder, so sharing seems to work.

>

> The question is now:

> How do I access the shared folder from Windows 7?

>

> In Windows 7's, under File Manager's "Network", I can see only Windows

> 7 itself, not Windows XP.

>

> -- dave



Connected via "a switch"?



You have to create a network between the 2 computers. Perhaps you have.

You present too little information to tell. See:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/...mputers-running-different-versions-of-Windows



--

Lem



Apollo 11 - 40 years ago:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
 
wrote in message

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> Hi,

>

> I have two computers at home: one PC with Windows XP Professional,

> another PC with Windows 7 Home Premium. Both PCs are connected to my

> ISP's cable modem via a switch.

>

> I would like to share a folder on Windows XP so Windows 7 could read

> the files in that folder.

>

> I have shared the directory on Windows XP to "Everyone". A hand

> appears under the shared folder, so sharing seems to work.

>

> The question is now:

> How do I access the shared folder from Windows 7?

>

> In Windows 7's, under File Manager's "Network", I can see only Windows

> 7 itself, not Windows XP.

>

> -- dave



- Can you ping the WinXP PC from the Windows 7 PC?

- Dooes your Windows 7 logon account/password match a WinXP

account/password?

- What do you see when you type this command at the Windows 7 Command

Prompt:

net use Q: "\\WinXPName\ShareName"
 
On Apr 23, 12:50 am, Lem wrote:

> dave_140...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > Hi,

>

> > I have two computers at home: one PC with Windows XP Professional,

> > another PC with Windows 7 Home Premium. Both PCs are connected to my

> > ISP's cable modem via a switch.

>

> > I would like to share a folder on Windows XP so Windows 7 could read

> > the files in that folder.

>

> > I have shared the directory on Windows XP to "Everyone". A hand

> > appears under the shared folder, so sharing seems to work.

>

> > The question is now:

> > How do I access the shared folder from Windows 7?

>

> > In Windows 7's, under File Manager's "Network", I can see only Windows

> > 7 itself, not Windows XP.

>

> > -- dave

>

> Connected via "a switch"?



Yes.





> You have to create a network between the 2 computers. Perhaps you have.

> You present too little information to tell.



Really? Well:

* the switch is connected to the IPS's cable modem with an Ethernet

cable

* each of the two PCs is connected to the switch with an Ethernet

cable



The switch is D-Link DES-1005D.



Each of the PCs can access the Internet with this setup.



-- dave
 
Hi,



Thanks for your help. Here are the answers to your questions:





> - Can you ping the WinXP PC from the Windows 7 PC?



I can:



C:\>ping 192.168.0.2



Pinging 192.168.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time account/password?[/color]



No.





> - What do you see when you type this command at the Windows 7 Command

> Prompt:

> net use Q: "\\WinXPName\ShareName"



I am not sure what the correct syntax of this command would be. Given

that I share directory C:\foo in the WinXP PC, should I enter:



net use Q: "\\WinXPName\foo"



or:



net use Q: "\\WinXPName\c\foo"



or one of the above without quotes?



I tried all 4 syntaxes above, with the same result:



An attempt was made to logon, but the network logon service was not

started.



-- dave
 
wrote in message

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> Hi,

>

> Thanks for your help. Here are the answers to your questions:

>

>

>> - Can you ping the WinXP PC from the Windows 7 PC?

>

> I can:

>

> C:\>ping 192.168.0.2

>

> Pinging 192.168.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:

> Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

> Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time

> Ping statistics for 192.168.0.2:

> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

> Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms

>

> C:\>

>

>

>> - Dooes your Windows 7 logon account/password match a WinXP

>> account/password?

>

> No.

>

>

>> - What do you see when you type this command at the Windows 7 Command

>> Prompt:

>> net use Q: "\\WinXPName\ShareName"

>

> I am not sure what the correct syntax of this command would be. Given

> that I share directory C:\foo in the WinXP PC, should I enter:

>

> net use Q: "\\WinXPName\foo"

>

> or:

>

> net use Q: "\\WinXPName\c\foo"

>

> or one of the above without quotes?

>

> I tried all 4 syntaxes above, with the same result:

>

> An attempt was made to logon, but the network logon service was not

> started.

>

> -- dave



The syntax of the "net share" command is as I gave it before:



net use Q: "\\WinXPName\ShareName"



Instead of "WinXPName" you must specify the NetBIOS name of your Windows XP

PC. You see it when you type this at the Command Prompt:

set computername



Instead of "ShareName" you must specify the name of the share that you

created (which could be different from the folder name that it refers to).

You can see all current share names when you tape this at the Command

Prompt:

net share



You should then post exactly what you see on the screen.
 
Windows 7 offers a network wizard you can use to set up a homegroup. It is

in the Network and Sharing Center, at the bottom. If you haven't consciously

set up a network, use "Set up a new connection or network." Otherwise, try

the "Connect to a network" or "Choose homegroup and sharing options" links.





"dave_140390@hotmail.com" wrote:



> Hi,

>

> Thanks for your help. Here are the answers to your questions:

>

>

> > - Can you ping the WinXP PC from the Windows 7 PC?

>

> I can:

>

> C:\>ping 192.168.0.2

>

> Pinging 192.168.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:

> Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

> Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time

> Ping statistics for 192.168.0.2:

> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

> Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms

>

> C:\>

>

>

> > - Dooes your Windows 7 logon account/password match a WinXP

> > account/password?

>

> No.

>

>

> > - What do you see when you type this command at the Windows 7 Command

> > Prompt:

> > net use Q: "\\WinXPName\ShareName"

>

> I am not sure what the correct syntax of this command would be. Given

> that I share directory C:\foo in the WinXP PC, should I enter:

>

> net use Q: "\\WinXPName\foo"

>

> or:

>

> net use Q: "\\WinXPName\c\foo"

>

> or one of the above without quotes?

>

> I tried all 4 syntaxes above, with the same result:

>

> An attempt was made to logon, but the network logon service was not

> started.

>

> -- dave

> .

>
 
Sharing folders between two Windows 7 machines with the new HomeGroup feature

is an easy process, but the HomeGroup feature is not compatible with XP.

First make sure both machines are members of the same Workgroup which by

default is named Workgroup.



workgroup



On the Windows 7 machine go into Control Panel \ All Control Panel Items \

Network and Sharing Center then click on Change advanced sharing settings.



network and sharing



advanced



You will want to verify the following settings under Advanced Sharing

Settings for the Home or Work and Public profile.



home or work settings



If you want any user to have access the public shares turn off password

protection. This is located in Advanced Sharing Settings toward the bottom

of the list.



turn off pw



If you want to keep it enabled make sure there is a log in account for the

other XP machines and they have a password.



create pw



Now if you go into Network in Windows 7 you should see your XP machine and

the Windows 7 as well which in this case is Mysticgeek-PC.



Explorer



To share the printer on the Windows 7 machine go into Devices and Printers

from the Start menu and double click on the printer icon.



devices



Next double click on “Customize your printerâ€Â.



1 Printer



In the Properties screen click on the Sharing Tab and check the box to share

the printer and type in its share name.



2 printer share



If your XP machine is an x86 OS you can install Additional Drivers before

setting up the XP machine.



3 Printer add drivers



To find the shared folders and devices double click on the Windows 7 machine

icon under Network. Here you can see the printer connected to my Windows 7

machine is shared and also the Users Folder.



shared device and users



Continue into the Users folder and Public to see the shared folders, here I

also created a folder called XP Share just to keep everything in central

location.



xpshare



Over on your XP machine open up My Network Places to find the Windows 7

(mysticgeek-pc) shared folder.



My Network Places



Double click on the Share folder to find a list of shared folders in the

Public folder on Windows 7. If you have password protection enabled you will

need to type in the username and password of the user account on the Windows

7 machine first.



folders



Setup XP With Shared Printer



To set up the shared printer in XP you will need to go into Printers and

Faxes from the Start menu and kick off the Add Printer Wizard.



add Printer



Now select “A network printer, or a printer attached to another computerâ€Â

then hit Next.



network option



Next select “Connect to this printer…†and type in the path for the printer

connected to the Windows 7 machine and click next.



print



Now click Yes to the confirmation message.



confirm msg



Then click Finish the printer to install and complete the Wizard.



Complete



In some cases you will need to install the x86 XP drivers for the shared

printer because the Windows 7 drivers are not compatible with XP. When

everything is installed open up Printers and Faxes to find the shared printer.





in explorer



This should help you get started with sharing your files and other devices

with your Windows 7 machine. When I first started I was able to see the

printer on XP right away because I had a HomeGroup set up, but once I deleted

it I needed to share the printer like you would for a workgroup. You might

also have to do a couple restarts of the XP machine for it to see the shared

resources on Windows 7.



--

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Hi,



> The syntax of the "net share" command is as I gave it before:

>

> net use Q: "\\WinXPName\ShareName"

>

> Instead of "WinXPName" you must specify the NetBIOS name of your Windows XP

> PC. You see it when you type this at the Command Prompt:

> set computername

>

> Instead of "ShareName" you must specify the name of the share that you

> created (which could be different from the folder name that it refers to).

> You can see all current share names when you tape this at the Command

> Prompt:

> net share

>

> You should then post exactly what you see on the screen.



I should have told that I did use the real computer name instead of

"WinXPName".



The session on Windows 7 is as follows:







C:\>net use Q: "\\\"

System error 1792 has occurred.



An attempt was made to logon, but the network logon service was not

started.





C:\>







(with "" equal to the XP computer name, and

"" equal to the name of the share that I want to share)



-- dave
 
On Apr 23, 8:37 am, sanjacstudent12

wrote:

> Windows 7 offers a network wizard you can use to set up a homegroup.



As far as I know, homegroups do not work on Windows XP.



-- dave
 
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:09:15 -0700 (PDT), dave_140390@hotmail.com

wrote:



> On Apr 23, 8:37 am, sanjacstudent12

> wrote:

> > Windows 7 offers a network wizard you can use to set up a homegroup.

>

> As far as I know, homegroups do not work on Windows XP.







That's correct. They only work with Windows 7 computers.



--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

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dave_140390@hotmail.com wrote:

> On Apr 23, 12:50 am, Lem wrote:

>> dave_140...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>> Hi,

>>> I have two computers at home: one PC with Windows XP Professional,

>>> another PC with Windows 7 Home Premium. Both PCs are connected to my

>>> ISP's cable modem via a switch.

>>> I would like to share a folder on Windows XP so Windows 7 could read

>>> the files in that folder.

>>> I have shared the directory on Windows XP to "Everyone". A hand

>>> appears under the shared folder, so sharing seems to work.

>>> The question is now:

>>> How do I access the shared folder from Windows 7?

>>> In Windows 7's, under File Manager's "Network", I can see only Windows

>>> 7 itself, not Windows XP.

>>> -- dave

>> Connected via "a switch"?

>

> Yes.

>

>

>> You have to create a network between the 2 computers. Perhaps you have.

>> You present too little information to tell.

>

> Really? Well:

> * the switch is connected to the IPS's cable modem with an Ethernet

> cable

> * each of the two PCs is connected to the switch with an Ethernet

> cable

>

> The switch is D-Link DES-1005D.

>

> Each of the PCs can access the Internet with this setup.

>

> -- dave



Many people confuse the terms "switch," "hub," and "router," all of

which do different things. Your DES-1005D is indeed a switch -- and it's

connected to your cable modem which undoubtedly is also a router.



Terminology aside, did you read the information at the link I posted,

which explains in detail how to set up a network between a computer

running Windows 7 and a computer running XP?



The "System error 1792" is a bit unusual. That error indicates that the

"Net Logon Service" did not start. Despite the way the name of that

service sounds, it is used for *Domain* authentication when you log into

the domain. You shouldn't have a domain.



On the XP box

- right click "My Computer" and select Properties

- click the "Computer Name" tab

- ensure that the computer is in a Workgroup and not a Domain. If

necessary, click the "Change" button and ensure that the radio button

next to "Workgroup" is selected.

- write down the Workgroup name



On the Win 7 box

- right click "My Computer" and select Properties

- The workgroup name is displayed under Computer name, domain, and

workgroup settings.

- ensure that the workgroup name is the same as on the XP box. You can

change either computer.



--

Lem



Apollo 11 - 40 years ago:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
 
Hi,



> On the XP box

> - right click "My Computer" and select Properties

> - click the "Computer Name" tab

> - ensure that the computer is in a Workgroup and not a Domain. If

> necessary, click the "Change" button and ensure that the radio button

> next to "Workgroup" is selected.

> - write down the Workgroup name



I think you found a problem: my XP computer (which my company lends

me) is in a domain, not in a workgroup. And the "Change..." button is

greyed, so it seems that I can't put my XP computer in a workgroup.



Now, do you know if there is a way to enable the "Change..." button?

Perhaps by tweaking the registry?



Note that I do have admin rights.



-- dave
 
"Lem" wrote in message

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> dave_140390@hotmail.com wrote:

>> On Apr 23, 12:50 am, Lem wrote:

>>> dave_140...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>>> Hi,

>>>> I have two computers at home: one PC with Windows XP Professional,

>>>> another PC with Windows 7 Home Premium. Both PCs are connected to my

>>>> ISP's cable modem via a switch.

>>>> I would like to share a folder on Windows XP so Windows 7 could read

>>>> the files in that folder.

>>>> I have shared the directory on Windows XP to "Everyone". A hand

>>>> appears under the shared folder, so sharing seems to work.

>>>> The question is now:

>>>> How do I access the shared folder from Windows 7?

>>>> In Windows 7's, under File Manager's "Network", I can see only Windows

>>>> 7 itself, not Windows XP.

>>>> -- dave

>>> Connected via "a switch"?

>>

>> Yes.

>>

>>

>>> You have to create a network between the 2 computers. Perhaps you have.

>>> You present too little information to tell.

>>

>> Really? Well:

>> * the switch is connected to the IPS's cable modem with an Ethernet

>> cable

>> * each of the two PCs is connected to the switch with an Ethernet

>> cable

>>

>> The switch is D-Link DES-1005D.

>>

>> Each of the PCs can access the Internet with this setup.

>>

>> -- dave

>

> Many people confuse the terms "switch," "hub," and "router," all of which

> do different things. Your DES-1005D is indeed a switch -- and it's

> connected to your cable modem which undoubtedly is also a router.

>

> Lem



Is there room for doubt? My cable modem ist just this, a modem, and it

requires a separate router in order to provide the hardware firewall

functionality that I insist on.
 
Pegasus [MVP] wrote:

>

>

> "Lem" wrote in message

> news:eHmK7Vw4KHA.4520@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> dave_140390@hotmail.com wrote:

>>> On Apr 23, 12:50 am, Lem wrote:

>>>> dave_140...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>>>> Hi,

>>>>> I have two computers at home: one PC with Windows XP Professional,

>>>>> another PC with Windows 7 Home Premium. Both PCs are connected to my

>>>>> ISP's cable modem via a switch.

>>>>> I would like to share a folder on Windows XP so Windows 7 could read

>>>>> the files in that folder.

>>>>> I have shared the directory on Windows XP to "Everyone". A hand

>>>>> appears under the shared folder, so sharing seems to work.

>>>>> The question is now:

>>>>> How do I access the shared folder from Windows 7?

>>>>> In Windows 7's, under File Manager's "Network", I can see only Windows

>>>>> 7 itself, not Windows XP.

>>>>> -- dave

>>>> Connected via "a switch"?

>>>

>>> Yes.

>>>

>>>

>>>> You have to create a network between the 2 computers. Perhaps you have.

>>>> You present too little information to tell.

>>>

>>> Really? Well:

>>> * the switch is connected to the IPS's cable modem with an Ethernet

>>> cable

>>> * each of the two PCs is connected to the switch with an Ethernet

>>> cable

>>>

>>> The switch is D-Link DES-1005D.

>>>

>>> Each of the PCs can access the Internet with this setup.

>>>

>>> -- dave

>>

>> Many people confuse the terms "switch," "hub," and "router," all of

>> which do different things. Your DES-1005D is indeed a switch -- and

>> it's connected to your cable modem which undoubtedly is also a router.

>>

>> Lem

>

> Is there room for doubt? My cable modem ist just this, a modem, and it

> requires a separate router in order to provide the hardware firewall

> functionality that I insist on.



Yes, there is room for doubt.



But *something* assigned at least one of his computers an IP address of

192.168.0.2. It's my understanding that if you connected your computer

directly to your cable modem (which as you point out has security

disadvantages), your computer would receive its IP address from the

ISP's headend, and it would be a public IP address (i.e., not

192.168.x.y).



But having to guess like this is why my first response was that the OP

had not provided sufficient information.

--

Lem



Apollo 11 - 40 years ago:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
 
"Lem" wrote in message

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> Pegasus [MVP] wrote:

>>

>>

>> "Lem" wrote in message

>> news:eHmK7Vw4KHA.4520@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> dave_140390@hotmail.com wrote:

>>>> On Apr 23, 12:50 am, Lem wrote:

>>>>> dave_140...@hotmail.com wrote:

>>>>>> Hi,

>>>>>> I have two computers at home: one PC with Windows XP Professional,

>>>>>> another PC with Windows 7 Home Premium. Both PCs are connected to my

>>>>>> ISP's cable modem via a switch.

>>>>>> I would like to share a folder on Windows XP so Windows 7 could read

>>>>>> the files in that folder.

>>>>>> I have shared the directory on Windows XP to "Everyone". A hand

>>>>>> appears under the shared folder, so sharing seems to work.

>>>>>> The question is now:

>>>>>> How do I access the shared folder from Windows 7?

>>>>>> In Windows 7's, under File Manager's "Network", I can see only

>>>>>> Windows

>>>>>> 7 itself, not Windows XP.

>>>>>> -- dave

>>>>> Connected via "a switch"?

>>>>

>>>> Yes.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> You have to create a network between the 2 computers. Perhaps you

>>>>> have.

>>>>> You present too little information to tell.

>>>>

>>>> Really? Well:

>>>> * the switch is connected to the IPS's cable modem with an Ethernet

>>>> cable

>>>> * each of the two PCs is connected to the switch with an Ethernet

>>>> cable

>>>>

>>>> The switch is D-Link DES-1005D.

>>>>

>>>> Each of the PCs can access the Internet with this setup.

>>>>

>>>> -- dave

>>>

>>> Many people confuse the terms "switch," "hub," and "router," all of

>>> which do different things. Your DES-1005D is indeed a switch -- and it's

>>> connected to your cable modem which undoubtedly is also a router.

>>>

>>> Lem

>>

>> Is there room for doubt? My cable modem ist just this, a modem, and it

>> requires a separate router in order to provide the hardware firewall

>> functionality that I insist on.

>

> Yes, there is room for doubt.

>

> But *something* assigned at least one of his computers an IP address of

> 192.168.0.2. It's my understanding that if you connected your computer

> directly to your cable modem (which as you point out has security

> disadvantages), your computer would receive its IP address from the ISP's

> headend, and it would be a public IP address (i.e., not 192.168.x.y).

>

> Lem



I fully agree.
 
dave_140390@hotmail.com wrote:

> Hi,

>

>> On the XP box

>> - right click "My Computer" and select Properties

>> - click the "Computer Name" tab

>> - ensure that the computer is in a Workgroup and not a Domain. If

>> necessary, click the "Change" button and ensure that the radio button

>> next to "Workgroup" is selected.

>> - write down the Workgroup name

>

> I think you found a problem: my XP computer (which my company lends

> me) is in a domain, not in a workgroup. And the "Change..." button is

> greyed, so it seems that I can't put my XP computer in a workgroup.

>

> Now, do you know if there is a way to enable the "Change..." button?

> Perhaps by tweaking the registry?

>

> Note that I do have admin rights.

>

> -- dave



The issue isn't enabling the button, but the problem of sharing files

between a computer in a domain and a computer in a workgroup.



I don't know enough about domains (or Windows 7) to give you a

definitive answer, but my best guess is the following:



It sounds as if you are logging onto to your company XP computer using

your cached domain credentials. What you want to do is to log on as a

local user.



If you don't have a local user account, see:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Create-a-user-account



Once you've logged in to the XP box as a local user, you may have

problems accessing the Internet. If so, change the workgroup name to be

the same as the domain name.



Whether you leave the workgroup at its default or change it to be the

same as the domain name, you'll probably have to change the Win 7

computer's workgroup to match.

--

Lem



Apollo 11 - 40 years ago:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
 
Hi Lem,



Thank you for the advice.





> If you don't have a local user account, see:

> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Create-a-user-account



I added a (local?) user with Control Panel -> Administrative Tools ->

Computer Management -> Local Users and Groups -> Users -> -> New User...





> Once you've logged in to the XP box as a local user, you may have

> problems accessing the Internet. If so, change the workgroup name to be

> the same as the domain name.



I logged off: Start -> Shut Down... -> Log off .



Then, I logged on as the (local?) user I had just created, by using

as the domain.



I did not have problems accessing the Internet as this (local?) user.

At least my browser works fine.





> Whether you leave the workgroup at its default or change it to be the

> same as the domain name, you'll probably have to change the Win 7

> computer's workgroup to match.



What is the workgroup of the (local?) user I just created? How do I

determine it? Note that when I logged as the local user, the system

was asking also for a domain. Does this mean that I am not in a

workgroup (from http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/How-is-a-network-at-home-different-from-one-at-work,

I understand that a computer is either part of a domain or of a

workgroup, but not both)?





-- dave
 
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