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When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is typical

before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes but

now takes about 11-12.



I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials

virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number

of passes of the blue progress bar?
 
Don't start/load MSE.

"bobster" wrote in message

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> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is

> typical

> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes

> but

> now takes about 11-12.

>

> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials

> virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number

> of passes of the blue progress bar?

>

>
 
PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time.

"bobster" wrote in message

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> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is

> typical

> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes

> but

> now takes about 11-12.

>

> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials

> virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number

> of passes of the blue progress bar?

>

>
 
I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I also uninstalled

the dial-up modem and its driver. No change, still takes 11-12 passes of

the blue progress bar to get to the Welcome screen.



Any other ideas out there?





"Unknown" wrote in message

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PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time.

"bobster" wrote in message

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> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is

> typical

> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes

> but

> now takes about 11-12.

>

> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials

> virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number

> of passes of the blue progress bar?

>

>
 
bobster wrote:



> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is typical

> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes but

> now takes about 11-12.

>

> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials

> virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number

> of passes of the blue progress bar?




How many startup programs you chose to load on Windows startup. How many

services are enabled and how many you added for software installs. If any

of them perform intensive disk activities (cleanup, scan, etc). If WGA

connects to go look for an update. If any of your security programs check

for an update (anti-virus, firewall, HIPS, anti-malware, etc). Some

security products are more intrusive than others during startup, like MSE

will chomp up 90%, or more, CPU usage during startup than, say, Avast. The

more you install on your host the more startup programs you end up with and

the more that want to go check for updates. Poorly coded, incompatible, or

conflicting drivers can cause enlongated startup times.



Use SysInternals' AutoRuns to see all the locations used to define startup

programs that load up on your host. msconfig will only show some of the

startup locations. Also, many services added by software installs won't

show up in msconfig because those services get rolled in a common instance

of svchost.exe. Both msconfig and AutoRuns will show the list of services

but not what is rolled into svchost.exe, so go look at your list of services

(run services.msc) to see what got added. You might also start looking in

the Event Viewer (eventvwr.exe) to see if there are any errors occurring

during startup.
 
Thanks for the suggestions Vanguard. I downloaded SysInternals AutoRuns and

found some left over stuff from Avast! -- "files not found" and deleted

them. Also went to Event Viewer and found several errors that were related

to the Avast! residue. After all of this "cleanup", the 11-12 blue bar

passes remain unchanged. Not sure where to look next. Guess I'll just live

with it as my XP loads in just under a minute.



=======================================================

"VanguardLH" wrote in message

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bobster wrote:



> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is

> typical

> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes

> but

> now takes about 11-12.

>

> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials

> virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number

> of passes of the blue progress bar?




How many startup programs you chose to load on Windows startup. How many

services are enabled and how many you added for software installs. If any

of them perform intensive disk activities (cleanup, scan, etc). If WGA

connects to go look for an update. If any of your security programs check

for an update (anti-virus, firewall, HIPS, anti-malware, etc). Some

security products are more intrusive than others during startup, like MSE

will chomp up 90%, or more, CPU usage during startup than, say, Avast. The

more you install on your host the more startup programs you end up with and

the more that want to go check for updates. Poorly coded, incompatible, or

conflicting drivers can cause enlongated startup times.



Use SysInternals' AutoRuns to see all the locations used to define startup

programs that load up on your host. msconfig will only show some of the

startup locations. Also, many services added by software installs won't

show up in msconfig because those services get rolled in a common instance

of svchost.exe. Both msconfig and AutoRuns will show the list of services

but not what is rolled into svchost.exe, so go look at your list of services

(run services.msc) to see what got added. You might also start looking in

the Event Viewer (eventvwr.exe) to see if there are any errors occurring

during startup.
 
In news:eiIoJhj7KHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,

bobster typed:

> I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I

> also uninstalled the dial-up modem and its driver. No

> change, still takes 11-12 passes of the blue progress bar

> to get to the Welcome screen.

>

> Any other ideas out there?




I'd say you're fine. You'll actually find that the number of passes varies

over time and how many cold starts and reboots you do, too. Windows

attempts to reorganize boot processes and it changes things on occasion.

9 trips and a max of about 12 seems like the average in my opinion. I've

had it as high as in the twenties long ago, but at this minute it's doing 6

passes. Some programs inherently increase it, but as a rule, it's nothing to

worry about. Specific, and variable from machine to machine, takes whatever

time it needs to get up and running and nothing more or less. Don't use it

to troubleshoot; 12 passes is fine, so would be 15 or ... .

Now if the speed of that bar changes, that would indicate something might

be out of kilter.







>

>

> "Unknown" wrote in message

> news:OTIhqpi7KHA.4508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time.

> "bobster" wrote in message

> news:eBS4yTh7KHA.3964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue

>> progress bar is typical

>> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take

>> about 4-5 passes but

>> now takes about 11-12.

>>

>> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS

>> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes.

>> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue progress

>> bar?
 
Thanks, Twayne, you have relieved my mind. Right now, the number of passes

varies between 9 and 12. Nothing I do seems to lower this number (I have

used MSbootvis and defrag c: -b to optimize boot times) although at one time

it was as low as 4-5. That was before I added numerous apps and

"protection".



I can't complain about boot times -- they're always under one minute and my

shutdown time is 10-15 seconds.



====================================================

"Twayne" wrote in message

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In news:eiIoJhj7KHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,

bobster typed:

> I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I

> also uninstalled the dial-up modem and its driver. No

> change, still takes 11-12 passes of the blue progress bar

> to get to the Welcome screen.

>

> Any other ideas out there?




I'd say you're fine. You'll actually find that the number of passes varies

over time and how many cold starts and reboots you do, too. Windows

attempts to reorganize boot processes and it changes things on occasion.

9 trips and a max of about 12 seems like the average in my opinion. I've

had it as high as in the twenties long ago, but at this minute it's doing 6

passes. Some programs inherently increase it, but as a rule, it's nothing to

worry about. Specific, and variable from machine to machine, takes whatever

time it needs to get up and running and nothing more or less. Don't use it

to troubleshoot; 12 passes is fine, so would be 15 or ... .

Now if the speed of that bar changes, that would indicate something might

be out of kilter.







>

>

> "Unknown" wrote in message

> news:OTIhqpi7KHA.4508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time.

> "bobster" wrote in message

> news:eBS4yTh7KHA.3964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue

>> progress bar is typical

>> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take

>> about 4-5 passes but

>> now takes about 11-12.

>>

>> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS

>> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes.

>> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue progress

>> bar?
 
Mine used to be 8 passes till I installed Open Office which took it to

10 .









On Mon, 10 May 2010 12:48:28 -0700, "bobster"

wrote:



>Thanks, Twayne, you have relieved my mind. Right now, the number of passes

>varies between 9 and 12. Nothing I do seems to lower this number (I have

>used MSbootvis and defrag c: -b to optimize boot times) although at one time

>it was as low as 4-5. That was before I added numerous apps and

>"protection".

>

>I can't complain about boot times -- they're always under one minute and my

>shutdown time is 10-15 seconds.

>

>====================================================

>"Twayne" wrote in message

>news:ujJqUa67KHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>In news:eiIoJhj7KHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,

>bobster typed:

>> I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I

>> also uninstalled the dial-up modem and its driver. No

>> change, still takes 11-12 passes of the blue progress bar

>> to get to the Welcome screen.

>>

>> Any other ideas out there?


>

>I'd say you're fine. You'll actually find that the number of passes varies

>over time and how many cold starts and reboots you do, too. Windows

>attempts to reorganize boot processes and it changes things on occasion.

> 9 trips and a max of about 12 seems like the average in my opinion. I've

>had it as high as in the twenties long ago, but at this minute it's doing 6

>passes. Some programs inherently increase it, but as a rule, it's nothing to

>worry about. Specific, and variable from machine to machine, takes whatever

>time it needs to get up and running and nothing more or less. Don't use it

>to troubleshoot; 12 passes is fine, so would be 15 or ... .

> Now if the speed of that bar changes, that would indicate something might

>be out of kilter.

>

>

>

>>

>>

>> "Unknown" wrote in message

>> news:OTIhqpi7KHA.4508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time.

>> "bobster" wrote in message

>> news:eBS4yTh7KHA.3964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue

>>> progress bar is typical

>>> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take

>>> about 4-5 passes but

>>> now takes about 11-12.

>>>

>>> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS

>>> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes.

>>> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue progress

>>> bar?


>

>

>
 
In news:OFtCGnH8KHA.4508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,

bobster typed:

> Thanks, Twayne, you have relieved my mind. Right now, the

> number of passes varies between 9 and 12. Nothing I do

> seems to lower this number (I have used MSbootvis and

> defrag c: -b to optimize boot times) although at one time

> it was as low as 4-5. That was before I added numerous

> apps and "protection".

>

> I can't complain about boot times -- they're always under

> one minute and my shutdown time is 10-15 seconds.

>

> ====================================================

> "Twayne" wrote in message

> news:ujJqUa67KHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> In news:eiIoJhj7KHA.5820@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,

> bobster typed:

>> I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I

>> also uninstalled the dial-up modem and its driver. No

>> change, still takes 11-12 passes of the blue progress bar

>> to get to the Welcome screen.

>>

>> Any other ideas out there?


>

> I'd say you're fine. You'll actually find that the number

> of passes varies over time and how many cold starts and

> reboots you do, too. Windows attempts to reorganize boot

> processes and it changes things on occasion. 9 trips and

> a max of about 12 seems like the average in my opinion.

> I've had it as high as in the twenties long ago, but at

> this minute it's doing 6 passes. Some programs inherently

> increase it, but as a rule, it's nothing to worry about.

> Specific, and variable from machine to machine, takes

> whatever time it needs to get up and running and nothing

> more or less. Don't use it to troubleshoot; 12 passes is

> fine, so would be 15 or ... . Now if the speed of that bar

> changes, that would indicate something might be out of

> kilter.

>

>

>

>>

>>

>> "Unknown" wrote in message

>> news:OTIhqpi7KHA.4508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time.

>> "bobster" wrote in message

>> news:eBS4yTh7KHA.3964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue

>>> progress bar is typical

>>> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take

>>> about 4-5 passes but

>>> now takes about 11-12.

>>>

>>> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS

>>> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes.

>>> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue progress

>>> bar?




Glad to hear it.

That's pretty much typical; every time you install something, especially

large suites, it's going to increase the amount of time needed. Some things

will change it a lot, some not at all, and other times over the next three

or four boots, you might find successively smaller numbers of trips as XP

arranges things. Beware of assigning problems to that; I've had it as hight

as 32 and eventually it settled back into place at 14.



HTH,



Twayne`
 
"bobster" wrote:



> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is typical

> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes but

> now takes about 11-12.

>

> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials

> virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number

> of passes of the blue progress bar?

>

>

> .

>


Try this:

Go to C:\windows\prefetch folder

del all the contents inside the prefetch folder, then restart. See if

that reduces the number of passes.



or open command prompt and execute this..

C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch>del *.* /q
 
On May 29, 4:34 am, Ariel wrote:

> "bobster" wrote:

> > When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is typical

> > before the "Welcome" screen appears?  Mine use to take about 4-5 passes but

> > now takes about 11-12.


>

> > I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials

> > virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes.  How can I reduce the number

> > of passes of the blue progress bar?


>

> > .


>

> Try this:

>      Go to C:\windows\prefetch folder

>      del all the contents inside the prefetch folder, then restart.See if

> that reduces the number of passes.

>

>      or open command prompt and execute this..

>      C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch>del *.* /q




Try it?



You don't know if it will have any effect of not?



Did you try it on your system and what was the result of the number of

your blue progress bar passes and your XP boot timing measurements?



Here is a discussion of how the XP Prefetch feature works. There is

nothing to try, no might be, no maybe, no could be.



Mark Russinovitch and David Solomon, wrote an excellent article called

Windows XP Kernel Improvements Create a More Robust, Powerful, and

Scalable OS in the December 2001 issue of MSDN Magazine. Their

technical credentials are impeccable, and they speak very highly of

effectiveness of this feature and describe how it works - and why you

should leave it alone.



It doesn't matter how you think it works or how manipulating the

folder may or might help your system. It is not important how you

think it works. What is important is how it really works. Read the

article and you will know how it works and why you should just leave

it alone.



http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc302206.aspx



Read the article and the section on prefetch yourself and do some

testing and please report your results.
 
In news:238ff3e8-05f0-4039-8c0d-ceea67126192@q33g2000vbt.googlegroups.com,

Jose typed:

> On May 29, 4:34 am, Ariel

> wrote:

>> "bobster" wrote:

>>> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue

>>> progress bar is typical before the "Welcome" screen

>>> appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes but now takes

>>> about 11-12.


>>

>>> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS

>>> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes.

>>> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue

>>> progress bar?


>>

>>> .


>>

>> Try this:

>> Go to C:\windows\prefetch folder

>> del all the contents inside the prefetch folder, then

>> restart. See if that reduces the number of passes.

>>

>> or open command prompt and execute this..

>> C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch>del *.* /q


>

> Try it?

>

> You don't know if it will have any effect of not?

>

> Did you try it on your system and what was the result of

> the number of your blue progress bar passes and your XP

> boot timing measurements?

>

> Here is a discussion of how the XP Prefetch feature works.

> There is nothing to try, no might be, no maybe, no could be.

>

> Mark Russinovitch and David Solomon, wrote an excellent

> article called Windows XP Kernel Improvements Create a More

> Robust, Powerful, and Scalable OS in the December 2001

> issue of MSDN Magazine. Their technical credentials are

> impeccable, and they speak very highly of effectiveness of

> this feature and describe how it works - and why you should

> leave it alone.

>

> It doesn't matter how you think it works or how

> manipulating the folder may or might help your system. It

> is not important how you think it works. What is important

> is how it really works. Read the article and you will know

> how it works and why you should just leave it alone.

>

> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc302206.aspx

>

> Read the article and the section on prefetch yourself and

> do some testing and please report your results.




lol! I wonder if you made you point, Jose .
 
On May 31, 10:49 am, "Twayne" wrote:

> Innews:238ff3e8-05f0-4039-8c0d-ceea67126192@q33g2000vbt.googlegroups.com,

> Jose typed:

>

>

>

>

>

> > On May 29, 4:34 am, Ariel

> > wrote:

> >> "bobster" wrote:

> >>> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue

> >>> progress bar is typical before the "Welcome" screen

> >>> appears?  Mine use to take about 4-5 passes but now takes

> >>> about 11-12.


>

> >>> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS

> >>> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes.

> >>> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue

> >>> progress bar?


>

> >>> .


>

> >> Try this:

> >>      Go to C:\windows\prefetch folder

> >>      del all the contents inside the prefetch folder, then

> >> restart. See if that reduces the number of passes.


>

> >>      or open command prompt and execute this..

> >>      C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch>del *.* /q


>

> > Try it?


>

> > You don't know if it will have any effect of not?


>

> > Did you try it on your system and what was the result of

> > the number of your blue progress bar passes and your XP

> > boot timing measurements?


>

> > Here is a discussion of how the XP Prefetch feature works.

> > There is nothing to try, no might be, no maybe, no could be.


>

> > Mark Russinovitch and David Solomon, wrote an excellent

> > article called Windows XP Kernel Improvements Create a More

> > Robust, Powerful, and Scalable OS in the December 2001

> > issue of MSDN Magazine. Their technical credentials are

> > impeccable, and they speak very highly of effectiveness of

> > this feature and describe how it works - and why you should

> > leave it alone.


>

> > It doesn't matter how you think it works or how

> > manipulating the folder may or might help your system.  It

> > is not important how you think it works. What is important

> > is how it really works.  Read the article and you will know

> > how it works and why you should just leave it alone.


>

> >http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc302206.aspx


>

> > Read the article and the section on prefetch yourself and

> > do some testing and please report your results.


>

> lol! I wonder if you made you point, Jose .




Hear me now and believe me later - I have done all this legwork

before... :)
 
In news:33a89d26-60d6-4edc-af63-343277a48248@r9g2000vbk.googlegroups.com,

Jose typed:

> On May 31, 10:49 am, "Twayne" wrote:

>> Innews:238ff3e8-05f0-4039-8c0d-ceea67126192@q33g2000vbt.googlegroups.com,

>> Jose typed:

>>

>>




....



>>

>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc302206.aspx


>>

>>> Read the article and the section on prefetch yourself and

>>> do some testing and please report your results.


>>

>> lol! I wonder if you made you point, Jose .


>

> Hear me now and believe me later - I have done all this

> legwork before... :)




Yeah, too bad more people aren't more inclined to try to help themselves a

bit at least, before turning to the groups or passing out half-fast

information and guesses as the case may be.

Don't cha know you're s'posed to delete everything in the pre-fetch

folder every month or so? Yup, even the .ini since it's never mentioned in

the deletion instructs.

'Tis a wunnerful world we live in. [:^}



Cheers,



Twayne`
 
On May 31, 6:25 pm, "Twayne" wrote:

> Innews:33a89d26-60d6-4edc-af63-343277a48248@r9g2000vbk.googlegroups.com,

> Jose typed:

>

> > On May 31, 10:49 am, "Twayne" wrote:

> >> Innews:238ff3e8-05f0-4039-8c0d-ceea67126192@q33g2000vbt.googlegroups.com,

> >> Jose typed:


>

> ...

>

>

>

> >>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc302206.aspx


>

> >>> Read the article and the section on prefetch yourself and

> >>> do some testing and please report your results.


>

> >> lol! I wonder if you made you point, Jose .


>

> > Hear me now and believe me later - I have done all this

> > legwork before... :)


>

> Yeah, too bad more people aren't more inclined to try to help themselves a

> bit at least, before turning to the groups or passing out half-fast

> information and guesses as the case may be.

>    Don't cha know you're s'posed to delete everything in the pre-fetch

> folder every month or so? Yup, even the .ini since it's never mentioned in

> the deletion instructs.

>    'Tis a wunnerful world we live in. [:^}

>

> Cheers,

>

> Twayne`




Emptying the contents of the Prefetch folder is number 52 on my list

of "Most likely to suggest..." list of things I read about here that

do not make sense.



I don't keep track of any names - just the curious suggestions. I

wonder if some of my ideas are on that list...
 
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