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Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up the files

that have changed since the previous back up.

Any suggestions

Thank you
 
Dirk wrote:

> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up

> the

> files that have changed since the previous back up.

> Any suggestions

> Thank you




http://www.educ.umu.se/~cobian/cobianbackup.htm



Cobian Backup 9, the latest tested version does the 1st backup as a

full backup and then does changes on future backup, so that should be

what you are looking for in a FREE program.



Tom J
 
Dirk wrote:

> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up the

> files that have changed since the previous back up.

> Any suggestions

> Thank you


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Maybe the free version of Paragon Backup and Recovery

would be worth a try:



Paragon Backup and Recovery Free Edition Download

http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/





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J. Inzer MS-MVP

Digital Media Experience



Notice

This is not tech support

I am a volunteer



Solutions that work for

me may not work for you



Proceed at your own risk
 
if you are referring to personal

files,



my suggestion is to make a

straight copy of them onto a

different location.



then use microsoft's sync toy

utility to keep the secondary

location updated with the

primary location of the folders

and files.



the above is a much better

method than using a backup

utility for personal files.







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"Dirk" wrote in message news:efOdnW0emoxwlRXWnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@earthlink.com...

> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up the files that have changed since the previous back up.

> Any suggestions

> Thank you

>
 
"Dirk" wrote in message

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> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up the


files

> that have changed since the previous back up. Any suggestions




The utility free from www.xxcopy.com does this

with CLI parameters /BN.



--

Don Phillipson

Carlsbad Springs

(Ottawa, Canada)
 
have you tried Dr. Murphy?
 
Dirk wrote:



> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up the files

> that have changed since the previous back up.

> Any suggestions

> Thank you




I would've suggested Paragon's free product but John beat me to it. Another

candidate not mentioned so far is Comodo Backup.
 
In news:efOdnW0emoxwlRXWnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@earthlink.com,

Dirk typed:

> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up the

> files that have changed since the previous back up.

> Any suggestions

> Thank you




XP's own ntbackup.exe will do that for you. As with xcopy, etc., it works on

whether the Archive bit is set or not and lowers it after backing it up. Any

change to the file raises the bit to indicate a change.



From XP's Backup Help file:

Incremental backup



An incremental backup backs up only those files created or changed since the

last normal or incremental backup. It *marks files as having been backed up*

(in other words, the archive attribute is cleared). If you use a combination

of normal and incremental backups, you will need to have the last normal

backup set as well as all incremental backup sets in order to restore your

data.



Normal backup



A normal backup copies all selected files and marks each file as having been

backed up (in other words, the archive attribute is cleared). With normal

backups, you need only the most recent copy of the backup file or tape to

restore all of the files. You usually perform a normal backup the first time

you create a backup set.



Backing up your data using a combination of normal backups and incremental

backups requires the least amount of storage space and is the quickest

backup method. However, recovering files can be time-consuming and difficult

because the backup set can be stored on several disks or tapes.



Backing up your data using a combination of normal backups and differential

backups is more time-consuming, especially if your data changes frequently,

but it is easier to restore the data because the backup set is usually

stored on only a few disks or tapes.





HTH,



Twayne









--

--

Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered

through personal experience does not become a

part of the moral tissue.
 
If the data is extremely important than clearly you can't rely on a free

program. You would do yourself justice if you spend a few bob on Norton

Ghost 15 that is tried and tested for over 20 years or more since the

DOS days.













hth





Dirk wrote:

>

> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up the files

> that have changed since the previous back up.

> Any suggestions

> Thank you
 
Are you nuts? Technologies don't even resemble what they were 20 years ago.



"EN59CVH" wrote in message

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> If the data is extremely important than clearly you can't rely on a free

> program. You would do yourself justice if you spend a few bob on Norton

> Ghost 15 that is tried and tested for over 20 years or more since the

> DOS days.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> hth

>

>

> Dirk wrote:

>>

>> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up the

>> files

>> that have changed since the previous back up.

>> Any suggestions

>> Thank you
 
Paragon is one of the best

http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/







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"Dirk" wrote in message

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> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up the files that

> have changed since the previous back up.

> Any suggestions

> Thank you

>
 
Dirk wrote:

> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up the files

> that have changed since the previous back up.

> Any suggestions

> Thank you

>

>




You want the freeware "Karen's Replicator" for exactly what you are

asking for.



This software saves copies that are not compressed into a proprietary

format. You can simply use the backed up files.



The first time you run it, it backs up all files in the source you

specify. The next time it only backs up (adds to the target folder) the

new and changed files.



Once you set it up, it is a single click to run it. I love it.



Sardine
 
Dirk wrote:

> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up the files

> that have changed since the previous back up.

> Any suggestions

> Thank you

>

>


For data files, you can just write a one liner batch file like this:

(the remarks are for explanation you don't need to type those lines in)





@echo off

rem /I = creates subdirs as needed

rem /S = includes subdirs

rem /E = includes empty dirs

rem /Y = no prompt for overwriting (YES = default)

rem /H = includes hidden files

rem /R = overwrites Read Only files

rem /D = copies changed files only (first time will be ALL)

rem /C = continues even if an error occur (for open/used files)



xcopy C:\ X:\CBACKUP /I /S /E /Y /H /R /D /C





X:\CBACKUP is your destination drive or directory/
 
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:58:58 +0000, EN59CVH

wrote:



> If the data is extremely important than clearly you can't rely on a free

> program. You would do yourself justice if you spend a few bob on Norton

> Ghost 15 that is tried and tested for over 20 years or more since the

> DOS days.






I completely disagree with both things you say above:



1. Your view that a freeware program is necessarily less reliable than

one you have to pay for.



2. Your view that any Norton product is more reliable than any of its

competitors.



My recommendation is stay as far away as possible from all Norton

products.







> Dirk wrote:

> >

> > Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up the files

> > that have changed since the previous back up.

> > Any suggestions

> > Thank you




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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

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In news:6v8lo559j55uf6qruq0i25vv0bv9nj6f9b@4ax.com,

Ken Blake, MVP typed:

> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:58:58 +0000, EN59CVH

> wrote:

>

>> If the data is extremely important than clearly you can't rely on a

>> free program. You would do yourself justice if you spend a few bob

>> on Norton Ghost 15 that is tried and tested for over 20 years or

>> more since the DOS days.


>

>

> I completely disagree with both things you say above:

>

> 1. Your view that a freeware program is necessarily less reliable than

> one you have to pay for.

>

> 2. Your view that any Norton product is more reliable than any of its

> competitors.

>

> My recommendation is stay as far away as possible from all Norton

> products.




Which is precisely why many of youre "recommendations" fall on deaf ears.

Norton Ghost is one of the best imaging setups you'll find and posesses a

host of useful bells & whistles. Acronis True Image is as good and just as

reliable for imaging with only a few things Ghost can do that are missing,

and one or two things Ghost can't do. If Acronis could also perform true

cloning operations it would be on an even footing with Ghost, in fact. I

have Ghost and other 2009/2010 verstions of Norton on this machine and TI on

the Dell dual xeos server behind me. As is legally allowed, Ghost is also

installed on two other machines here, both laptops. TI is only on one

machine. Neither has ever had a problem with storing/restoreing drive

images.

You need to come up to speed with the real world, you really do.



HTH,



Twayne







>

>

>

>> Dirk wrote:

>>>

>>> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up

>>> the files that have changed since the previous back up.

>>> Any suggestions

>>> Thank you








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through personal experience does not become a

part of the moral tissue.
 
In news:hmcpvf$ksf$1@news.eternal-september.org,

Raoul Watson typed:

> Dirk wrote:

>> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up

>> the files that have changed since the previous back up.

>> Any suggestions

>> Thank you

>>

>>


> For data files, you can just write a one liner batch file like this:

> (the remarks are for explanation you don't need to type those lines

> in)

>

> @echo off

> rem /I = creates subdirs as needed

> rem /S = includes subdirs

> rem /E = includes empty dirs

> rem /Y = no prompt for overwriting (YES = default)

> rem /H = includes hidden files

> rem /R = overwrites Read Only files

> rem /D = copies changed files only (first time will be ALL)

> rem /C = continues even if an error occur (for open/used files)

>

> xcopy C:\ X:\CBACKUP /I /S /E /Y /H /R /D /C

>

>

> X:\CBACKUP is your destination drive or directory/




That appears as though it will work quite well. And, it's native to XP and

can be run from the desktop. Personally I think at the end a pause and

possibly a note that the user may look back thru the files would be a good

addition, but ... not a necessity by any means.



I do think I'd have it create a logfile to go with it, though.



Caveats:

-- Can not back up the OS due to files "in use", but you didn't say it

would. I just point it out because some won't catch it right away.

-- Beware backup file redundancy; in other words, be sure to NOT back up

the backup file - it sometimes gets "interesting" if you do and the backup

becomes worthless.

-- As written, the batch file will have to reside in the system Path, or

exist on each hard drive letter. It's probably best to place the batch file

in ...\System\, which is in the Path, and precede the line with a refrence

to each drive letter present. e.g.



Assuming CBACKUP is a drive used ONLY for backup and is NOT one of the ones

to be backed up:



@echo off

echo.

echo Explain to the user what's about to happen. Maybe mention CTRL-C to

stop the echo batch from running.

echo.

pause

xcopy C:\ X:\CBACKUP /I /S /E /Y /H /R /D /C

echo Drive C done...starting Drive D

echo.

pause

xcopy D:\ X:\CBACKUP /I /S /E /Y /H /R /D /C

echo Drive D done...starting drive E

echo.

pause

xcopy E:\ X:\CBACKUP /I /S /E /Y /H /R /D /C

echo Done.

echo.

pause

Exit



CBACKUP can not exist on any of the drives being backed up without creating

the possibility of making a drive capacity-filling file and ruining the

whole process.



There needs to be one line for each drive letter being backed up.



And of course some error checking would be good but probably not necessary

as long as the batch file were closely checked to be sure it does what it

needs to do.



It could even back up to a compressed drive or folder to save a little space

on the backup drive.



IMO, XP's ntbackup is a better solution and avoids the problem of trying to

backup the backup file, plus it will back up the OS if requested also.



From a comand prompt, ntbackup /? will list all the possible

switches and their descriptions. In reality what that will do is open

ntbackup.exe and then open Help to the section that describes the switches

and parameters. Quite useful.

Likewise, xcopy /? will get you help for the xcopy

command.







HTH,



Twayne



--

Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered

through personal experience does not become a

part of the moral tissue.
 
"Twayne" wrote in message

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> If Acronis could also perform true cloning operations it would be on an

> even footing with Ghost,




It does. Perhaps you just missed that capability in TI?
 
How is it that you notoriously promote all the garbage one can install on a

computer?

Registry cleaners, Norton products, etc.

"Twayne" wrote in message

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> In news:6v8lo559j55uf6qruq0i25vv0bv9nj6f9b@4ax.com,

> Ken Blake, MVP typed:

>> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:58:58 +0000, EN59CVH

>> wrote:

>>

>>> If the data is extremely important than clearly you can't rely on a

>>> free program. You would do yourself justice if you spend a few bob

>>> on Norton Ghost 15 that is tried and tested for over 20 years or

>>> more since the DOS days.


>>

>>

>> I completely disagree with both things you say above:

>>

>> 1. Your view that a freeware program is necessarily less reliable than

>> one you have to pay for.

>>

>> 2. Your view that any Norton product is more reliable than any of its

>> competitors.

>>

>> My recommendation is stay as far away as possible from all Norton

>> products.


>

> Which is precisely why many of youre "recommendations" fall on deaf ears.

> Norton Ghost is one of the best imaging setups you'll find and posesses a

> host of useful bells & whistles. Acronis True Image is as good and just

> as reliable for imaging with only a few things Ghost can do that are

> missing, and one or two things Ghost can't do. If Acronis could also

> perform true cloning operations it would be on an even footing with Ghost,

> in fact. I have Ghost and other 2009/2010 verstions of Norton on this

> machine and TI on the Dell dual xeos server behind me. As is legally

> allowed, Ghost is also installed on two other machines here, both laptops.

> TI is only on one machine. Neither has ever had a problem with

> storing/restoreing drive images.

> You need to come up to speed with the real world, you really do.

>

> HTH,

>

> Twayne

>

>

>

>>

>>

>>

>>> Dirk wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up

>>>> the files that have changed since the previous back up.

>>>> Any suggestions

>>>> Thank you


>

>

>

> --

> --

> Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered

> through personal experience does not become a

> part of the moral tissue.
 
Because he likes to test out as many hard drives as possible for backup

restoration capabilities?



Unknown wrote:

> How is it that you notoriously promote all the garbage one can install on

> a

> computer?

>

> Registry cleaners, Norton products, etc.

> "Twayne" wrote in message

> news:%23DJHODKuKHA.4220@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> In news:6v8lo559j55uf6qruq0i25vv0bv9nj6f9b@4ax.com,

>> Ken Blake, MVP typed:

>>> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:58:58 +0000, EN59CVH

>>> wrote:

>>>

>>>> If the data is extremely important than clearly you can't rely on a

>>>> free program. You would do yourself justice if you spend a few bob

>>>> on Norton Ghost 15 that is tried and tested for over 20 years or

>>>> more since the DOS days.

>>>

>>>

>>> I completely disagree with both things you say above:

>>>

>>> 1. Your view that a freeware program is necessarily less reliable than

>>> one you have to pay for.

>>>

>>> 2. Your view that any Norton product is more reliable than any of its

>>> competitors.

>>>

>>> My recommendation is stay as far away as possible from all Norton

>>> products.


>>

>> Which is precisely why many of youre "recommendations" fall on deaf ears.

>> Norton Ghost is one of the best imaging setups you'll find and posesses a

>> host of useful bells & whistles. Acronis True Image is as good and just

>> as reliable for imaging with only a few things Ghost can do that are

>> missing, and one or two things Ghost can't do. If Acronis could also

>> perform true cloning operations it would be on an even footing with

>> Ghost,

>> in fact. I have Ghost and other 2009/2010 verstions of Norton on this

>> machine and TI on the Dell dual xeos server behind me. As is legally

>> allowed, Ghost is also installed on two other machines here, both

>> laptops.

>> TI is only on one machine. Neither has ever had a problem with

>> storing/restoreing drive images.

>> You need to come up to speed with the real world, you really do.

>>

>> HTH,

>>

>> Twayne

>>

>>

>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Dirk wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Im looking for a free data back up program that will only back up

>>>>> the files that have changed since the previous back up.

>>>>> Any suggestions

>>>>> Thank you


>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> --

>> Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered

>> through personal experience does not become a

>> part of the moral tissue.
 
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