2 questions - where to post for windows 7 and about slow performance of windows 7.

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Hi,

I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to

which newsgroup I should be addressing.



Secondly, I was trying to uninstall a 3rd party program using "Programs and

Features" in the Control Panel. It used to be called "Add/Remove Programs"

in WinXP. I highlighted the program I wished to uninstall, and clicked

"uninstall". That little progress circle that goes around and around drove

me crazy and I waited for about 10 minutes for the OS to gather

"configuration information" about the program to be uninstalled. In disgust,

I finally clicked "cancel" to abort the operation. Is this typical

performance for Windows 7? If it is, what is Microsoft thinking about - this

is outrageous! If I am doing something wrong or incorrectly, PLEASE

enlighten me. This can't be right.





Thanks in advance.
 
Windows 7 forums

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/w7itpro/



"sheana" wrote in message

news:17043B81-1460-4FD4-BB03-BF07C4447B47@microsoft.com...

: Hi,

: I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to

: which newsgroup I should be addressing.

:

: Secondly, I was trying to uninstall a 3rd party program using "Programs

and

: Features" in the Control Panel. It used to be called "Add/Remove

Programs"

: in WinXP. I highlighted the program I wished to uninstall, and clicked

: "uninstall". That little progress circle that goes around and around drove

: me crazy and I waited for about 10 minutes for the OS to gather

: "configuration information" about the program to be uninstalled. In

disgust,

: I finally clicked "cancel" to abort the operation. Is this typical

: performance for Windows 7? If it is, what is Microsoft thinking about -

this

: is outrageous! If I am doing something wrong or incorrectly, PLEASE

: enlighten me. This can't be right.

:

:

: Thanks in advance.

:
 
"sheana" wrote in message

news:17043B81-1460-4FD4-BB03-BF07C4447B47@microsoft.com...

> Hi,

> I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to

> which newsgroup I should be addressing.

>

> Secondly, I was trying to uninstall a 3rd party program using "Programs

> and Features" in the Control Panel. It used to be called "Add/Remove

> Programs" in WinXP. I highlighted the program I wished to uninstall,

> and clicked "uninstall". That little progress circle that goes around

> and around drove me crazy and I waited for about 10 minutes for the OS

> to gather "configuration information" about the program to be

> uninstalled. In disgust, I finally clicked "cancel" to abort the

> operation. Is this typical performance for Windows 7? If it is, what is

> Microsoft thinking about - this is outrageous! If I am doing something

> wrong or incorrectly, PLEASE enlighten me. This can't be right.

>

>

> Thanks in advance.






A: Microsoft Answers Windows 7 Forums:

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7



B: Ask them.

--

Bruce Hagen

MS-MVP [Mail]

Imperial Beach, CA
 
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:18:41 -0400, "sheana" wrote:



>I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to

>which newsgroup I should be addressing.




There is a very active newsgroup: alt.windows7.general



Don (e-mail link at home page bottom).
 
Hi Tom,



Thanks for the link. I guess the online web forum is replacing the newsgroup

protocol. Sorry to see another change for the worse. I'm going to miss the

newsgroup format - it was so helpful and user friendly.



"Tom Willett" wrote in message

news:ONX7Q3dxKHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Windows 7 forums

> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/w7itpro/

>

> "sheana" wrote in message

> news:17043B81-1460-4FD4-BB03-BF07C4447B47@microsoft.com...

> : Hi,

> : I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to

> : which newsgroup I should be addressing.

> :

> : Secondly, I was trying to uninstall a 3rd party program using "Programs

> and

> : Features" in the Control Panel. It used to be called "Add/Remove

> Programs"

> : in WinXP. I highlighted the program I wished to uninstall, and clicked

> : "uninstall". That little progress circle that goes around and around

> drove

> : me crazy and I waited for about 10 minutes for the OS to gather

> : "configuration information" about the program to be uninstalled. In

> disgust,

> : I finally clicked "cancel" to abort the operation. Is this typical

> : performance for Windows 7? If it is, what is Microsoft thinking about -

> this

> : is outrageous! If I am doing something wrong or incorrectly, PLEASE

> : enlighten me. This can't be right.

> :

> :

> : Thanks in advance.

> :

>

>
 
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:18:41 -0400, in

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general "sheana"

wrote:



> Hi,

> I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to

> which newsgroup I should be addressing.






Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft

Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based

forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts

there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,

not mine.



However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:

alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but

here's one free news server that does: aioe.org







> Secondly, I was trying to uninstall a 3rd party program using "Programs and

> Features" in the Control Panel. It used to be called "Add/Remove Programs"

> in WinXP. I highlighted the program I wished to uninstall, and clicked

> "uninstall". That little progress circle that goes around and around drove

> me crazy and I waited for about 10 minutes for the OS to gather

> "configuration information" about the program to be uninstalled. In disgust,

> I finally clicked "cancel" to abort the operation. Is this typical

> performance for Windows 7?








No, certainly not.



What program are you trying to uninstall?







> If it is, what is Microsoft thinking about - this

> is outrageous! If I am doing something wrong or incorrectly, PLEASE

> enlighten me. This can't be right.






It's likely that something is wrong with the installation of the

program, and that's why you are having the problem. However, reboot,

if you haven't done so already, and then retry the uninstallation.



--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
"sheana" wrote:



>Hi,

>I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to

>which newsgroup I should be addressing.




Microsoft has not created any newsgroups in the microsoft.public.*

hierarchy. They want everybody to use the web forums. You can use the

Usenet group alt.windows7.general



--

Tim Slattery

Slattery_T@bls.gov

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
 
2 questions - where to post for windows 7 and about slowperformance of windows 7.

On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:00:43 -0400, sheana wrote:



> Hi Tom,

>

> Thanks for the link. I guess the online web forum is replacing the

> newsgroup protocol. Sorry to see another change for the worse. I'm going

> to miss the newsgroup format - it was so helpful and user friendly.




On the Usenet, there's alt.windows7.general. But not everyone carries it.



Stef
 
"Stefan Patric" wrote in message

news:2Y7on.69375$jt1.23664@newsfe01.iad...

> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:00:43 -0400, sheana wrote:

>

>> Hi Tom,

>>

>> Thanks for the link. I guess the online web forum is replacing the

>> newsgroup protocol. Sorry to see another change for the worse. I'm

>> going

>> to miss the newsgroup format - it was so helpful and user friendly.


>

> On the Usenet, there's alt.windows7.general. But not everyone carries

> it.

>

> Stef






And it is overrun with filthy mouthed trolls. I used to offer that group

as an option, but no more.

--

Bruce Hagen

MS-MVP [Mail]

Imperial Beach, CA
 
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010, Stefan Patric wrote:



>On the Usenet, there's alt.windows7.general. But not everyone carries it.




If your ISP doesn't carry it then ask them to carry it. Most will oblige.



Don (e-mail link at home page bottom).
 
Sorry, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to Usenet. I called my ISP as

you suggested, and they didn't know anything about Usenet. Can you be a

little more specific in how I can sign up for this, or whatever I have to

do? Thanks in advance.



"Don Wiss" wrote in message

news:eu52q5lksvv01vrfskesru2oqm8ampu9q8@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010, Stefan Patric wrote:

>

>>On the Usenet, there's alt.windows7.general. But not everyone carries it.


>

> If your ISP doesn't carry it then ask them to carry it. Most will oblige.

>

> Don (e-mail link at home page bottom).
 
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:21:00 -0700, "Bruce Hagen"

wrote:



>

> "Stefan Patric" wrote in message

> news:2Y7on.69375$jt1.23664@newsfe01.iad...

> > On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:00:43 -0400, sheana wrote:

> >

> >> Hi Tom,

> >>

> >> Thanks for the link. I guess the online web forum is replacing the

> >> newsgroup protocol. Sorry to see another change for the worse. I'm

> >> going

> >> to miss the newsgroup format - it was so helpful and user friendly.


> >

> > On the Usenet, there's alt.windows7.general. But not everyone carries

> > it.

> >

> > Stef


>

>

> And it is overrun with filthy mouthed trolls. I used to offer that group

> as an option, but no more.






With the judicious use of a killfile, the trolls hardly bother me.



--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
Sheana, you know that I know you: That forum is not one for you, girlfriend.

Use the ones here instead

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7

--

~PA Bear





sheana wrote:

> Hi Tom,

>

> Thanks for the link. I guess the online web forum is replacing the

> newsgroup

> protocol. Sorry to see another change for the worse. I'm going to miss the

> newsgroup format - it was so helpful and user friendly.

>

> "Tom Willett" wrote in message

> news:ONX7Q3dxKHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Windows 7 forums

>> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/w7itpro/

>>

>> "sheana" wrote in message

>> news:17043B81-1460-4FD4-BB03-BF07C4447B47@microsoft.com...

>>> Hi,

>>> I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to

>>> which newsgroup I should be addressing.

>>>

>>> Secondly, I was trying to uninstall a 3rd party program using "Programs

>>> and Features" in the Control Panel. It used to be called "Add/Remove

>>> Programs" in WinXP. I highlighted the program I wished to uninstall,

>>> and

>>> clicked "uninstall". That little progress circle that goes around and

>>> around drove me crazy and I waited for about 10 minutes for the OS to

>>> gather "configuration information" about the program to be uninstalled.

>>> In disgust, I finally clicked "cancel" to abort the operation. Is this

>>> typical performance for Windows 7? If it is, what is Microsoft thinking

>>> about - this is outrageous! If I am doing something wrong or

>>> incorrectly,

>>> PLEASE enlighten me. This can't be right.

>>>

>>>

>>> Thanks in advance.
 
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:58:18 -0400, Don Wiss

wrote:



> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010, Stefan Patric wrote:

>

> >On the Usenet, there's alt.windows7.general. But not everyone carries it.


>

> If your ISP doesn't carry it then ask them to carry it. Most will oblige.






Let me point out that many ISPs don't even have a newsreader any more.

So I'll change your statement above to "If whatever company supplies

your newsserver doesn't carry it then ask them to carry it."



And every (or at least almost every) newsreader lets you use multiple

newsservers. So there's need to even ask; I'll change the statement

again to "If whatever company supplies your newsserver doesn't carry

it then add the server aioe.org."



--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message

news:tp92q59nifhl953ancuu7pqt0975icmd47@4ax.com...



>> And it is overrun with filthy mouthed trolls. I used to offer that

>> group

>> as an option, but no more.


>

>

> With the judicious use of a killfile, the trolls hardly bother me.

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup






After 4 entries for Alias and 3 for Frank, I gave up.

--

~Bruce
 
2 questions - where to post for windows 7 and about slow performanceof windows 7.

Bruce Hagen wrote:

> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message

> news:tp92q59nifhl953ancuu7pqt0975icmd47@4ax.com...

>

>>> And it is overrun with filthy mouthed trolls. I used to offer that group

>>> as an option, but no more.


>>

>>

>> With the judicious use of a killfile, the trolls hardly bother me.

>>

>> --

>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup


>

>

> After 4 entries for Alias and 3 for Frank, I gave up.




[Rant mode on}



By themselves these two trolls practically ruined the Vista newsgroups,

I would say Alias is 1% or less responsible and 'Frank' is 99% or more

responsible. Wait... Microsoft allowed it all to go on unchecked and

did nothing to reign in these trolls, they wanted an excuse to get rid

of newsgroups and they played along and allowed these trolls to ruin it

for everybody else, the percentage for the at fault are...



[end rant]



John
 
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:15:31 -0400, "sheana" wrote:



>Don Wiss wrote:

>> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010, Stefan Patric wrote:

>>

>>>On the Usenet, there's alt.windows7.general. But not everyone carries it.


>>

>> If your ISP doesn't carry it then ask them to carry it. Most will oblige.




>Sorry, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to Usenet. I called my ISP as

>you suggested, and they didn't know anything about Usenet. Can you be a

>little more specific in how I can sign up for this, or whatever I have to

>do? Thanks in advance.




I guess if you have a large organization like Cox you may be out of luck,

though you are at least lucky that they still carry Usenet. Verizon and AOL

dropped all newsgroups completely.



Doing a little googling I find from 2005 that to get a group added you

e-mail to newsmaster@cox.net



Newly added groups are posted to cox.internet.discussion.newsgroups. Maybe

check there for more current procedures.



Don (e-mail link at home page bottom).
 
2 questions - where to post for windows 7 and about slow performanceof windows 7.

sheana wrote:

> Sorry, I'm completely ignorant when it comes to Usenet. I called my ISP

> as you suggested, and they didn't know anything about Usenet. Can you

> be a little more specific in how I can sign up for this, or whatever I

> have to do? Thanks in advance.




USENET uses a bunch of servers, and the servers forward messages to one

another, until they all carry the same content (for a group they happen to

carry). Google is just one peer in the scheme of things, and USENET

predates the appearance of Google (and dejanews).



My ISP used to have its own USENET server, and participated in it. Then,

one day, the ISP decided to shut it down. (And this is before the Cuomo era.)



I've been using free USENET servers ever since, rather than pay yet more

money for the privilege.



A free server, that requires no signup, or even contacting the owner,

is nntp.aioe.org. The owner keeps a web page, with minimal information

about the various ways you can access it. This server allows both reading

existing messages and posting new messages. There is a limit to how many

messages can be posted per day, so for users that have a "chatroom" usage

pattern for USENET, this is the wrong server to try that on. This server

also happens to carry "alt.windows7.general" .



http://www.aioe.org/



nntp.aioe.org Port 119



You can find a list of USENET news readers here. I use Thunderbird from

mozilla.org . I can't think of any of these tools, that fit in the category

of "easy to use". The last one that fit that billing was on a Macintosh

about 20 years ago. It still takes a bit of fiddling to get it all set

up the way you want.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders



Problems in Thunderbird, usually arise from some change made by the

server administrator (such as re-numbering articles on the server).

Thunderbird lacks a "convenient button" when certain things break.

You can unsubscribe from a group and re-subscribe, and the problem

won't resolve itself.



If the server is stable, and doesn't receive a lot of maintenance,

Thunderbird can run a long time without needing assistance.



Some newsreaders are best described as "cryptic", using a whole bunch

of keyboard shortcut combinations to control them. I run into the odd

person, who actually likes that, but I can't for the life of me, figure

out why.



You can probably find a web page, with setup instructions for your newsreader.

For example, you could start at Step 2 here, and set up your connection

to nntp.aioe.org on Port 119.



http://www.stanford.edu/services/usenet/thunderbird_pc/index.html



I've heard of the odd issue with Thunderbird 3, which is why I'm still

using the 2 series. An update was pushed out today, which brings the

latest 2 stream release to 2.0.0.24.



http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/latest-2.0/



Here, I've burrowed down to the US English version 2.0.0.24 for Windows.



http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/latest-2.0/win32/en-US/



If you go to the mozilla.org web page, you can easily find the latest

3 stream download, and try that out.



Thunderbird handles both email and USENET news, which may confuse some

people when they fire up the tool. I use it purely for USENET and don't

do email with it.



Paul



>

> "Don Wiss" wrote in message

> news:eu52q5lksvv01vrfskesru2oqm8ampu9q8@4ax.com...

>> On Wed, 17 Mar 2010, Stefan Patric wrote:

>>

>>> On the Usenet, there's alt.windows7.general. But not everyone

>>> carries it.


>>

>> If your ISP doesn't carry it then ask them to carry it. Most will oblige.

>>

>> Don (e-mail link at home page bottom).


>
 
not normal behavior at all.



possible some part of the program waas still running and the uninstall was having problems.



not unusual.



but it usually notifies you.



mikeyhsd@hotmail.com







"sheana" wrote in message news:17043B81-1460-4FD4-BB03-BF07C4447B47@microsoft.com...

Hi,

I need help in finding where to post for windows 7. Kindly advise as to

which newsgroup I should be addressing.



Secondly, I was trying to uninstall a 3rd party program using "Programs and

Features" in the Control Panel. It used to be called "Add/Remove Programs"

in WinXP. I highlighted the program I wished to uninstall, and clicked

"uninstall". That little progress circle that goes around and around drove

me crazy and I waited for about 10 minutes for the OS to gather

"configuration information" about the program to be uninstalled. In disgust,

I finally clicked "cancel" to abort the operation. Is this typical

performance for Windows 7? If it is, what is Microsoft thinking about - this

is outrageous! If I am doing something wrong or incorrectly, PLEASE

enlighten me. This can't be right.





Thanks in advance.
 
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